Brief Update on the Cole Puffinburger Investigation

Goodness, I didn't think she was involved. I guess we will learn more later. My thoughts are still with Cole and hope beyond hope that he is found safe.

Oh No - I didn't think she was involved either.

We all knew the mother was involved all along! You can't have a drug dealing father and not know anything about it. Everyone has been acting like she is some saint but why isn't she out looking for her son and plastering flyer's all around the city like everybody else? I mean even strangers are out there looking for him but what is she doing?
And not sure if there is any truth to this, but I read online Cole once even lived with the grandfather! This family makes me sick and I pray to god they find him safe and place him in a home where he will never have to deal with people as disgusting as this. It is just so sad that there are so many kids brought up in homes like this. Poor little guy I am praying for you!

Joe had mentioned that Julie was going to move but hadn't yet.

LV property records show she purchased a home in August of this year so wonder why she wasn't living at her new residence?

Grandpa, per your link Steve, is in custody and the Amber Alert has been cancelled.

Nurse, I've already covered those developments earlier in the day. Just check the main page of the blog or the "Recent Posts" section of the sidebar on the right -- you'll see headlines: "Amber Alert Rescinded in Puffinburger Abduction" and "Clemens F. Tinnemeyer Arrested in California."

Danke Steve! I just noticed it further down the page.

I had my suspicions about this Mom since it started. Her absense from being right there out in front looking and pleading for the safe return of her son on TV sent out red flags for me. I always believed that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and unfortunately looks like it's true in this situation. I was suspicious of this mystery "joe" who came on here posting things before it hit the media plus painting the Mom in a good light. Since the internet is so anonymous, how do we know it wasn't Julie herself posting as Joe. I didn't buy it...it was too orchestrated. If not Julie herself, someone close to her posted this. Normally, I am very sympathetic to someone whose child goes missing, I was for Casey Anthony (not anymore, that b*tch murdered her baby, but that's another story). But what I didn't like about this Mom from the get go was the fact that she let her convicted felon/drug runner Dad live with her and her son. I mean, what Mom in her right mind has her kid living with a criminal relative? Guess it takes all kinds to make the world go around. Will be interesting how this all plays out and certainly hope the best for little innocent Cole.

I had my suspicions about this Mom since it started. Her absense from being right there out in front looking and pleading for the safe return of her son on TV sent out red flags for me. I always believed that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and unfortunately looks like it's true in this situation. I was suspicious of this mystery "joe" who came on here posting things before it hit the media plus painting the Mom in a good light. Since the internet is so anonymous, how do we know it wasn't Julie herself posting as Joe. I didn't buy it...it was too orchestrated. If not Julie herself, someone close to her posted this. Normally, I am very sympathetic to someone whose child goes missing, I was for Casey Anthony (not anymore, that b*tch murdered her baby, but that's another story). But what I didn't like about this Mom from the get go was the fact that she let her convicted felon/drug runner Dad live with her and her son. I mean, what Mom in her right mind has her kid living with a criminal relative? Guess it takes all kinds to make the world go around. Will be interesting how this all plays out and certainly hope the best for little innocent Cole.

I had my suspicions about this Mom since it started. Her absense from being right there out in front looking and pleading for the safe return of her son on TV sent out red flags for me. I always believed that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and unfortunately looks like it's true in this situation. I was suspicious of this mystery "joe" who came on here posting things before it hit the media plus painting the Mom in a good light. Since the internet is so anonymous, how do we know it wasn't Julie herself posting as Joe. I didn't buy it...it was too orchestrated. If not Julie herself, someone close to her posted this. Normally, I am very sympathetic to someone whose child goes missing, I was for Casey Anthony (not anymore, that b*tch murdered her baby, but that's another story). But what I didn't like about this Mom from the get go was the fact that she let her convicted felon/drug runner Dad live with her and her son. I mean, what Mom in her right mind has her kid living with a criminal relative? Guess it takes all kinds to make the world go around. Will be interesting how this all plays out and certainly hope the best for little innocent Cole.

"Since the internet is so anonymous, how do we know it wasn't Julie herself posting as Joe."

I began wondering the same thing after the third comment or so. Though the person used a male name, I kept thinking it could be a woman (not sure why -- maybe the way they used language) and their IP address did trace to Las Vegas.

It's pretty simple, though -- if Joe isn't Julie, Joe will come by and say so, because I've been under the impression for much the evening that Julie may not be in a situation where she could use the Internet. I don't mean she's been arrested or anything -- though that's possible -- but if she's being interrogated or is in some kind of protective situation, getting on the Web may be the least of her worries.

If the police want to know who Joe was, they'll send a subpoena for server info on that commenter to Village Voice Media offices forthwith, I imagine.

Razzy and Stefani, I agree with both of you. I guess Cole's mom could have been an innocent person in all of this but I felt from the start that something was "off" with her. The whole story was sketchy and I would think that most of the time if a close family member is involved in something this big, the chances that his children are involved in it is pretty good. I just didn't picture a sweet innocent mom. It makes me sick to that someone can subject their child to a lifestyle like this. So sad.

I have to add this, because this info is elsewhere -- I think at Websleuths -- Julie just bought property on Greymouth St. in August this year, for $159,000. I have no idea what she does for a living, but that buy from the LaSalle Nat'l Bank does strike me as interesting. Greymouth isn't the address that comes up in association with her and Clemens Tinnemeyer every time -- that address is on Betsy Lane.

Check out the Blockshopper page.

Gosh, sorry about the triple posts...it was very slow loading and I just was hitting that post button
like a madwoman...guess it shows. LOL!!!

Glad to see someone else agrees with me, Steve. I know that kinda sounded out in left field with that comment about Joe really being Julie, but you never know nowadays and I am one of those type of people that are skeptical about everything, especially in this situation now.

I still pray they find that poor child and if the recent media report is true and Julie the Mom may be just like dear old Dad and dealing drugs, I sure hope they don't stick this kid back with her. Complete morons if they do. But something tells me Mommy Dearest maybe sharing a cell in the slammer with her Daddy if the police suspicions show to be valid. In my opinion, Cole's Dad should have sole custody of his son.

I live in Vegas. They just announced on the NBC affiliate that they found Cole here at a bus stop. He's alive.

Steve - I just wanted to clarify some of the questions you pose here and on the websleuths site.

While I do know Julie personally, I have not been in recent contact with her.

Julie purchased the home on Greymouth back in August. She purchased it from a bank, which you suggest may be suspicious. It is typical here in NV to purchase a home from the bank through a foreclosure. With Julie's profession, she is more aware of the foreclosure process than the average Nevadan. She may also be more aware of available foreclosed properties.

As most know, there is a foreclosure crisis going on here in Nevada and bank owned properties are a-plenty.

Besides that, you refer to the property tying the two (Julie and her dad) as Betsy. It’s actually on BETTY. That was (and presumably still IS) the family home. As a side note, someone earlier on the webslueths site mentioned "all the cars". What they didn't mention (likely because they didn't know) is that, while there are quite a few cars parked on the property, nearly none of them run. Fixing up junk cars and piecing cars together to get something to run and get them back and forth was yet another thing Clem did.

The property Cole was abducted from was on Cherry Grove. That street is two streets South of Lake Mead, directly off of Hollywood. I believe Clem was staying at this property at some point. I do recall, however, that early reports mentioned Clem previously owned the property, which just doesn’t pan out. (It might have been an error in reporting.)

Your mystery poster “Joe” mentioned Julie’s recent purchase of the Greymouth property. She likely waited until the foreclosure process ran its course and picked it up for $1 more than the bank was owed. She could have gotten a steal. She could have had “questionable funds”. I have no information on that, unfortunately.

I knew Julie personally and am struggling to accept that Julie was involved on a deep level, but my gut says there is more there that has yet to be released. My heart breaks just thinking about it. Julie did know her dad was a no-good bum but still had a soft spot for him (more than Tracy).

Julie’s mom struck me as a victim of abuse – someone (not necessarily physically) beat down and worn out. She was always solemn and soft-spoken when I saw/talked to her. [I say, “abused” because she had a striking resemblance to a mother of another friend of mine, whom I know was abused. I used that woman as a point of reference for this opinion.]

As to the premise that “Joe” is Julie – I would doubt it. I have no ‘inside’ info, just my gut saying so. I do suspect that it might be a woman, though.

I hesitated to reach out at all, and am concerned about my identity somehow being found out but believe I have done nothing more than just clarify misconceptions and suggest a point of view to look at what’s already out there. OK, and throw in a little two-cents, I suppose.

JustJane

COLE Is alive Breaking NEWS!!! Found alive walking the street at 17th and Oakey

Thank you Lord!!!!!

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Try www.klastv.com

From lasvegasnow.com
Six-Year-Old Cole Puffinburger Found Alive

Updated: Oct 19, 2008 12:23 AM MDT

Six-year-old Cole Puffinburger has been found alive and is safe in policy custody.

Law enforcement officials are reporting that six-year-old Cole Puffinburger has been found alive and is safe in policy custody. The boy was found in the downtown Las Vegas area. At this hour, police are not releasing further details.

Eyewitness News 8 will have additional details as they become available.

I've already put up a brief post about Cole being found alive:

http://snipurl.com/4hs9z

Thanks to everyone who left a comment about this wonderful development.

THEY FOUND HIM ALIVE!!! I haven't actually prayed in YEARS, but my heart broke with this little boy. If memory serves (becausee it really has been years) wasn't there a bible story about Solomon finding the true (and worthy) mother for a child? Seems if we apply some "Solomon logic", little Cole's Dad needs to be given his baby back! God, I can't stop grinning. Welcome home, Cole!

nd....I completely agree! His dad just broke my heart - I could hardly watch him on the news. IMO, THAT is the sign of a grieving parent whose child is missing.

Thank you Lord for bringing Cole home, and thank you Steve for the constant updates.

I usually don't pray but with this abduction I did. I just recieved new flyers last night showing Coles Picture in color. I handed out flyers at my store to most customers and then came home to find out that Cole was found and alive and in good health...I took flyers from the person who had new ones and distributed them to everyone I could. I don't know if it was ours prayers or otherwise that he was found alive and well.But it sure gives me hope that a higher power is there. Cole was probably found by the time I recieved the flyers...but thank god we still have people who cared enough to look for him...And Coles father, you did a great job and have lots of support from your friends and and community and let us know if we can help any further

Thank God! What a blessing that Cole was found. Dad and son reunited will be a very pretty picture. I think the drug thugs got scared and let him loose. The cops are getting pretty close to the whereabouts is what I think. Should be interesting if Grandpa gave info to the cops and tightened the noose around those guys. Should be also interesting if Julie Puffinburger finds herself in hot water now due to police suspicions she is also involved in the drug trade. Still hiding from the media looks bad, unless the police have already arrested her.

I'm just glad that little boy is safe. This is a homeland security issue. I hope someone realizes that and it affects policy in the future.

To clarify yes I am a female no I am not Julie but again I have said I do know her so naturally I would defend her. I have never denied being someone interested in defending her I will not apologize for this, I don't really feel I have to we are all entitled to our own opinion. I have no problem saying that I also may be way off base about her being involved but from what I know of her and the situation I don't think I am. If the police do want to know who I am (I don't see why they would there really is no purpose I can serve I guarantee they know more than me ) like Steve said they can find out but it would be a waste of time. I really just am someone who had more information than the media but not as much as the police (I'm sure there are a lot of us out there). I have to say I am completely in the dark about where they have searched, what they have found out etc. I really just know more about the events preceding this than has been reported. I know nothing the police didn't already know.

It breaks my heart to see people suggesting that Julie could be involved. My first response would be to say that she isn't but deep down inside who really knows? And to Joe, you know a lot of the information that my family and I know. I'm very curious to know who you are because we might definitely know each other. But i understand that you'd like to stay anonymous, as do I.

I would like to fix something i said in the earlier comment. it made me feel that i was suggesting Julie's involvement in the drug running. I do not think she was involved at all but I'm not so sure if she was aware of it.

More information from my area in case you didn't read where I posted this elsewhere on here.

FBI arrests woman in Fontana
http://www.insidesocal.com/news247/2008/10/fbi-arrests-woman-in-fontana-i.html

How old is the mother? I ask because if her dad was into crazy stuff, and she had a kid, she shouldn't have been in contact with him anyway. And these people shouldn't have known where to go. The fact that these guys knew where to go should tell everyone something. I'm not saying that this woman was "in on it" as in: She may have been involved in narcotics to some extent.

KidnappingNarcotics

In on what? You must be specific. I mean the narcotics. Legal mumbo jumbo should be taken seriously right now.

I worked with VICE Cops in Miami for about a decade (Scarface era) as an informant, and I was also heavily involved with drugs in my youth. On the wrong side. Thank you. These people, on both ends, wouldn't have involved anyone who ALSO wasn't either moving or using. Especially someone as close as a daughter unless SHE wanted in.

This guy may be bad news, but most fathers love their daughters and would keep them far, far away UNLESS...she pestered him to let her "in" for whatever reason. That's why this woman's home will be searched and anything she has bought in the last year will be investigated. I hope she's not involved either but...I'm sorry, something smells fishy.

I'm sure she's a wonderful person either way. She's just trying to get ahead. Unfortunately, when something like this happens, it all goes out the window. I NEVER involved loved ones in any of my sordid affairs, and this is why. Of course, I never stole from anyone or hung around anyone who did.

She's lucky she wasn't beaten, raped, both, or worse. People who come to collect on drug debts are brutal. But for thievery? The Cubans and the Haitians made examples out of people who did that! And loved ones, dogs, cats...goldfish weren't even safe. Haitians who knew that they were going to get a visit from someone they stole from wouldn't just kill themselves...I'll leave it at that. That's why Miami was so crazy in the 80s. You couldn't even keep up with the body count.

All the more reason to seal the borders. And living like East Germany might not be ideal to most Americans but there's other reasons to go that route. This is one of them. Mexico is literally in a state of civil WAR. It spills over every day, only it's primarily contained to Hispanic neighborhoods. but they WILL come to the suburbs, people! So just say no!

God answers prayers! That's what I learned here! I know LOTS of people were praying for that little boy, and every day that passed by more were, and every night he wasn't at home where he should be, all I could think was--another night. He's with people who don't care for him. He's scared and alone. And even people who don't usually pray, and people who maybe didn't believe in God did too. What this should show everyone is when you down to nothing, God's up to something. All we could do was pray. That's all we had. And so, what happened? God answered. Welcome Home, Cole!!
God bless you and your family. And may He keep watch over you all your days. We don't 'know' you, but we LOVE you!!

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