99-year-old man beaten over parking spot
From the Las Vegas Review-Journal, an article published early in the a.m. on October 17:
Sources said it's believed that a member of Cole's family owes a Mexican drug cartel between $8 million and $20 million.
Sources described the family member as an alleged money launderer for the cartel. The family member is in hiding.
That statement as well as other information dovetails with comments posted on this blog. The comments in question were left on this post and this entry as well. Generally these comments have come from a reader calling himself "joe." This was one of joe's longer comments -- some emphasis has been added:
Look people there is so much more to this story than is being reported and no the mother is not involved in any way. I know this family personally. The three hispanic men are part of a mexican drug cartel. The grandfather of this little boy is a piece of shit drug smuggler, he stole money from the drug cartel and they are taking this boy in retaliation in hopes that the grandfather will come out of hiding and give himself up the money up or whatever, I do not know. I do know the boy is obviously in great danger and it is all because his grandfather decided to steal money from the wrong people. This boy was targeted because they have been unable to track him down and they could easily find his daughter and her son and we all know how these drug cartels work. The mother had received threats from these people a few months back but has no contact with her father so was unable to do anything about it. I assume there is good reason that the police are not reporting all these details but I assure you that this little boy is missing and the mother or boyfriend have nothing to do with it. I know this sounds like it is out of a movie but it is the sad truth. The money they were looking for was a very large sum in the millions stolen from the cartel...
The preceding comment was posted at 5:15 a.m. ET on the 16th -- a full day before the report from the Review-Journal quoted at the beginning of this post.
Joe knows his stuff. Because this reader's comment was so prescient, it's worth it to take a close look at what he said. Aside from Joe knowing ahead of time that millions of dollars might be involved, he (or she) also stated that the "piece of shit drug smuggler" grandfather was the father of Cole's mom, Julie Puffinburger. A search of Nevada marriage records revealed that Julie's maiden name was Tinnemeyer. There are matching records for a Julie Puffinburger (who married Cole's father, Robert, in 2001) and at least two different men named Tinnemeyer at the same Las Vegas address. Mainstream media reports have already indicated that Julie's father once lived at the same home from which Cole Puffinburger was abducted. One of the men who tracked to the same address as Julie A. Puffinburger was 51-year-old Clemens F. Tinnemeyer. He was listed as the property owner in 2007. This man may or may not be Julie's father, but he is clearly a relative. He is also old enough to have children in their late 20s and have grandchildren. Or a grandchild.
Is he the "grandfather" who may be in hiding, who may hold the key as to why Cole was kidnapped? There's no telling, at the moment. But Clemens F. Tinnemeyer seems curiously absent from any other records outside of property tax rolls. Could this have been intentional on his part?
Perhaps the most important aspect of finding out some of this background info is that it helps dismiss any lingering suspicion against Cole's mother. Police do not appear to suspect Julie Puffinburger of being complicit in her son's abduction at all. The newest reports about large sums of money matching up with a comment left on this blog a day ago are also pretty compelling. The kidnapping of Cole Puffinburger, it seems, isn't remotely comparable to something like the disappearance of Caylee Anthony. Knowing the mindset of many who follow stories like this in particular as well as I do, I feel it's necessary to say that outright.
Cole's abduction may be something rare in American experience, but somewhat common in Central and South America. The big question now is whether or not Cole's kidnappers have issued any ranson demands. If they are following the pattern seen in some Latin American countries, this could mean there's reason to hope that the boy is still alive. There are numerous stories from south of the border of kidnap victims being returned to their families following payment of a ransom. Typically, though, they have been adults, and often male.
If kidnapping Cole was akin to punishing his grandfather's family, that's another story altogether. One that no one wants to write before its time. [ReviewJournal.com]
UPDATE
A look at business records for the State of Nevada showed that Clemens F. Tinnemeyer Jr. was attached to a number of endeavors over the years: Bomber Records, Incorporated; Salita Records, Inc.; and C & C Weston, Incorporated. Salita Records caught my attention because of the Spanish name ("salita" means "sitting room" or "small auditorium") and because the company's connection to Tinnemeyer was confirmed by an Internet listing for the company at the same street address already referenced in the original post above -- in the 900 block of Betty Lane in Las Vegas. Otherwise, I could find little evidence that the company in question was real. This was true for the other names, as well. Could they have been fronts for profits actually gained through illicit activities, like drug smuggling? Considering what we already know, it would make a lot of sense.







cool post. wanted to make a couple of comments:
-kidnapping related to Mexican cartel activity is common in border cities along us/Mexican border and in metro areas like San Diego, Phoenix, etc. Kidnappings happen to both criminals being targeted as well as wealthy business people who may or may not be involved with a cartel- just wealthy.
Posted 10/17/2008 at 01:52:59 PMVery interesting.
Ps. Your second quote is cutting off on my browser. Might just be me though.
Posted 10/17/2008 at 05:16:29 PMSteve, the boxed quotes that are set off to the right are cut off in my browser window, too. Any suggestions?
Posted 10/17/2008 at 05:49:53 PMThe problem was only in Internet Explorer, not Firefox. I fixed it anyway.
Posted 10/17/2008 at 06:02:19 PMLook I have posted information and the reason that I know this is that I am a close personal friend of the family but wish to remain anonymous, so please do not post any identifying information about me, not only for my safety and the safety of others(there are scary people involved in this) but also because I am truly trying to help this boy come home and help people understand. I am only posting in hopes that this may help people know what they are looking for and so people don't assume that the parents were involved and not look for what they should. There is still a lot of false information out there but as you can see I know what I am talking about, everytime I say something it is reported hours later and confirmed. So listen up people the facts are as follows.
Posted 10/17/2008 at 08:06:23 PMThe grandfather who goes by the name Clem (police have just today issued a APB for him for questioning and yes you are right about him and the info you have posted Steve) was a drug runner for the mexican drug cartels, mafia whatever they are one in the same. He found out where they kept their money hidden and stole millions of dollars as well as millions in drugs from the cartel and dissappeared. The mother,her boyfriend or father of this boy never had any connection to this illegal activity whatsoever and were unaware of his involvement until a couple of months ago. Think about this logically if they had anything to do with this activity or the stolen money and drugs do you think they would have stayed here? Another point I would like to make is that it is being falsely reported out there that the grandfather was the "owner" of the drug cartel, totally false. Now think about this very clearly people, Do you think the "owner" of a drug cartel would not have his entire family completely protected 24 hours a day but an army of guards? If you know anything about any drug cartel at all you know not only do they have hundreds of millions of dollars(if not billions) but that the actual guy who runs it (the owner) is always highly protected with their family in a fortress. They don't typically leave their family in a modest house in Las Vegas with no protection. This guy is only a drug runner who thought he was slick enough to get away from people that no one really get away from. So while this does involve the drug cartels in no way was he the owner, or else he wouldn't need to steal. This is and this isn't a ransom case, yes they want money but not because the grandfather or parents are rich but because the grandfather took that which was not his for the taking. The boyfriend of the boy's mother is not mexican or a drug dealer nor is his father or mother. I do know someone did approach the mother at her home a couple of months back and told her about the situation that her father stole from them and they just wanted to locate him and get back what belonged to them the mother and boyfriend were very scared but did agree to help see if she could get a hold of her father since she had no knowledge of this and wanted nothing to do with it, nor did she want any harm to come to her or her son. She did try to locate her father with no luck he had practically dropped off the face of the earth they do know he was last seen in Tennesee but that was the last lead they had. The boy at that time was visiting relatives in a safe place ( I won't say where it is not important), but had just recently returned. These people did give them time to find him but they either grew impatient, thought she was lying and knew where he was(which she definitely did not) or knew that the grandfather would most likely see that his grandchild kidnapped on national news and decided to take him as a bargaining tool (this is just a guess). The police were informed of this situation from the beginning but there was little they could do as they were also looking for the grandfather as well (I'm assuming for something related to this)and there was really only an implied threat made and these men did really seem to just want to find her father and not to harm her. The mother did not let these men in her house, she was getting ready to take her child to school heard a knock on the door asked who was there, when they said police she thought with all that had going on lately that it probably was them there to talk to her about her father, and she mistakenly opened the door. This is when these men forced their way in, searched the house for the money and when they didn't find it ripped the child out of the mother's boyfriend's arms(he was crying and screaming hysterically,poor baby), tied them up and left with the boy. A lot of people are saying the mom keeps changing her story, she does not the media and the cops are the ones either misrporting or reporting bits and pieces at a time I know the police were aware of all of this from minute one but they may have been waiting for confirmation of the facts before releasing them and that is why it seems the story keeps changing. Remember the story is only changing in the media not in reality the mother, father and boyfriend have always given the same story, but the public is only hearing trickles of information until I believe they confirm it. This is a very sad scary and true situation. Someone earlier posted that this doesn't typically happen in the U.S., well this is true but when you deal with the cartel and screw them over they will come get you here or anywhere else you go to. I hope I have clarified this situation for all of you and you all understand how important it is to not judge or jump to conclusions. I have to admit in past cases I have jumped to conclusions but now seeing this from a totally different perspective it makes me rethink other cases and wonder if it only seemed the way it did because the media either got it wrong or only reported half truths and bit of information. I would like to also believe that there is hope Cole can be returned safe since it seems like above all these people just want to find his grandfather and get their money back. Let's hope that happens and this boy is returned safely. If you have any questions you can post on here and I will read it but I have told you what I can for now. Please be on the lookout write to any media organization you can that you see is not reporting it, post flyers send emails, post on networking site anything and everything to help this seet innocent boy come home. We all have a child or children in our lives we love that we would be devasted if something like this happened to so please when you loook at Cole's sweet face remember that. Remember that he could be your son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece or nephew or just a dear friend's child but just see that child you know and love in his smile and think about what you would do to bring them home and do that, help in anyway you can. Please!!! Thank you for all of the interest and concern, the more there is the more attention this gets, the better chance Cole has to come home safe.
Look I have posted information and the reason that I know this is that I am a close personal friend of the family but wish to remain anonymous, so please do not post any identifying information about me, not only for my safety and the safety of others(there are scary people involved in this) but also because I am truly trying to help this boy come home and help people understand. I am only posting in hopes that this may help people know what they are looking for and so people don't assume that the parents were involved and not look for what they should. There is still a lot of false information out there but as you can see I know what I am talking about, everytime I say something it is reported hours later and confirmed. So listen up people the facts are as follows.
Posted 10/17/2008 at 08:06:36 PMThe grandfather who goes by the name Clem (police have just today issued a APB for him for questioning and yes you are right about him and the info you have posted Steve) was a drug runner for the mexican drug cartels, mafia whatever they are one in the same. He found out where they kept their money hidden and stole millions of dollars as well as millions in drugs from the cartel and dissappeared. The mother,her boyfriend or father of this boy never had any connection to this illegal activity whatsoever and were unaware of his involvement until a couple of months ago. Think about this logically if they had anything to do with this activity or the stolen money and drugs do you think they would have stayed here? Another point I would like to make is that it is being falsely reported out there that the grandfather was the "owner" of the drug cartel, totally false. Now think about this very clearly people, Do you think the "owner" of a drug cartel would not have his entire family completely protected 24 hours a day but an army of guards? If you know anything about any drug cartel at all you know not only do they have hundreds of millions of dollars(if not billions) but that the actual guy who runs it (the owner) is always highly protected with their family in a fortress. They don't typically leave their family in a modest house in Las Vegas with no protection. This guy is only a drug runner who thought he was slick enough to get away from people that no one really get away from. So while this does involve the drug cartels in no way was he the owner, or else he wouldn't need to steal. This is and this isn't a ransom case, yes they want money but not because the grandfather or parents are rich but because the grandfather took that which was not his for the taking. The boyfriend of the boy's mother is not mexican or a drug dealer nor is his father or mother. I do know someone did approach the mother at her home a couple of months back and told her about the situation that her father stole from them and they just wanted to locate him and get back what belonged to them the mother and boyfriend were very scared but did agree to help see if she could get a hold of her father since she had no knowledge of this and wanted nothing to do with it, nor did she want any harm to come to her or her son. She did try to locate her father with no luck he had practically dropped off the face of the earth they do know he was last seen in Tennesee but that was the last lead they had. The boy at that time was visiting relatives in a safe place ( I won't say where it is not important), but had just recently returned. These people did give them time to find him but they either grew impatient, thought she was lying and knew where he was(which she definitely did not) or knew that the grandfather would most likely see that his grandchild kidnapped on national news and decided to take him as a bargaining tool (this is just a guess). The police were informed of this situation from the beginning but there was little they could do as they were also looking for the grandfather as well (I'm assuming for something related to this)and there was really only an implied threat made and these men did really seem to just want to find her father and not to harm her. The mother did not let these men in her house, she was getting ready to take her child to school heard a knock on the door asked who was there, when they said police she thought with all that had going on lately that it probably was them there to talk to her about her father, and she mistakenly opened the door. This is when these men forced their way in, searched the house for the money and when they didn't find it ripped the child out of the mother's boyfriend's arms(he was crying and screaming hysterically,poor baby), tied them up and left with the boy. A lot of people are saying the mom keeps changing her story, she does not the media and the cops are the ones either misrporting or reporting bits and pieces at a time I know the police were aware of all of this from minute one but they may have been waiting for confirmation of the facts before releasing them and that is why it seems the story keeps changing. Remember the story is only changing in the media not in reality the mother, father and boyfriend have always given the same story, but the public is only hearing trickles of information until I believe they confirm it. This is a very sad scary and true situation. Someone earlier posted that this doesn't typically happen in the U.S., well this is true but when you deal with the cartel and screw them over they will come get you here or anywhere else you go to. I hope I have clarified this situation for all of you and you all understand how important it is to not judge or jump to conclusions. I have to admit in past cases I have jumped to conclusions but now seeing this from a totally different perspective it makes me rethink other cases and wonder if it only seemed the way it did because the media either got it wrong or only reported half truths and bit of information. I would like to also believe that there is hope Cole can be returned safe since it seems like above all these people just want to find his grandfather and get their money back. Let's hope that happens and this boy is returned safely. If you have any questions you can post on here and I will read it but I have told you what I can for now. Please be on the lookout write to any media organization you can that you see is not reporting it, post flyers send emails, post on networking site anything and everything to help this seet innocent boy come home. We all have a child or children in our lives we love that we would be devasted if something like this happened to so please when you look at Cole's sweet face remember that. Remember that he could be your son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, niece or nephew or just a dear friend's child but just see that child you know and love in his smile and think about what you would do to bring them home and do that, help in anyway you can. Please!!! Thank you for all of the interest and concern, the more there is the more attention this gets, the better chance Cole has to come home safe.
According to the Teavee Newz Cole Puffinburger was found safe wandering the streets of Vegas. Two people are in custody, grandpa and presumably one of the kidnappers. Dunno why Steve hasn't done a new post on the subject yet.
Posted 10/20/2008 at 10:33:52 AMI have. Several. When you want to see what's new on the blog, just click the top of the page, on "True Crime Report." This is standard blog design, Internet-wide, and not unique to this site.
There are also links on the right side of every blog post, under "Recent Posts." The headlines there make it perfectly clear that I've covered all those developments.
A blog is NOT just the entry you are reading at a given moment. A blog is a body of work. One blog contains many blog posts. People tend to find one entry -- like this one -- via Google, and think of it as "the blog." That's wrong. It's one entry in a blog.
Posted 10/20/2008 at 10:40:43 AMDo you think the POS is heading home to MA, the gay state?
Posted 10/21/2008 at 06:29:20 PM