Doc Zinkhan was cool. His wife was using hanging out with local live theater groups as an excuse to mess around with artsy guys. Doc did not sexually harass anyone and I never saw him high on anything. He just snapped, that's all.

His wife was a Southern gal who liked to have fun. He is a workaholic nerd from a family of workaholic nerds in the North. I never heard that he sexually harassed anyone here. He drank but not much. If Marie's male buds had not gotten in front of her she would have been the only person killed.

The police think the drove his SUV off a boat launching ramp into a lake somewhere and it will be years until they are discovered.

http://tinyurl.com/dgek44
Seems that, according to this report, that Professor Z was suspecting an affair and that is what the argument was over, fwiw.

Ken, I can see the water thing and had been thinking that myself. Revenge is personal and it is a dish best served cold.

Sorry Jennie, but where I come from, "cool" people don't gun down their wives and innocent bystanders while the kiddos wait in the car. This guy sounds like he had some major control issues, to say the very least.

I agree Velouria! Not a "cool" POS at all!

I cannot help but wonder - why is it okay for jerks like him to walk out on their first wife and children (divorced her in '96)- but - heaven forbid if a wife wants to divorce them???

Someone on Facebook posted that his Jeep was found submerged early this morning in a swamp in Athens - has anyone else heard this, or know if it is true?

i think this guy is a real physco. what kinda man kills his wife with his kids waiting in the car. i was seriously thinking about coming to uga for my college education but now i am rethinking of what im going to do.

Anonymous, I don't think you need to rethink your choice of schools based on this incident. There will be sane and crazy people no matter where you go.

"UGA Faculty Member" is so mistaken about the facts. GZ gunned down Tanner first, in front of Tanner's kid. Bruce second, and Teague third.

Perhaps "UGA Faculty Member"'s rationalization -- that Bruce was a genteel southern gal & the guys got in the way -- points to the source of the problem after all. I think "UGA Faculty Member" & the UGA administration needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask himself/themselves in what ways he/they enabled & protected this individual over the years.

BTW, "I never heard that he sexually harassed anyone here." Yah, I bet -- with the parochial attitude you've displayed, it's no wonder. Wake up.

You've reported things I've yet to see elsewhere - esp. regarding the circumstances under which he left Houston.

I've ran into GZ at a number of conference in recent years, both while I was a doctoral student and since I graduated. Given his stature in the field, I've always been struck by his erratic behavior and lack of discretion.

He was known to hit on young female students during social outings held at the AMA's annual doctoral consortiums. When I've seen him more recently at academic conferences, I've always gotten a weird vibe from what seemed to be a very "touchy-feely" relationship with some UGA female doc students. There are also stories from UGA grads of him sitting in his office without a shirt and trying to look up undergrad student's skirts.

If he left Houston due to sexual harassment, it appears to me that he was unreformed and unrepentant at UGA. In my limited interactions with him, he struck me as a classic narcissist. Academia attracts eccentrics - 99.9% of them are harmless. But he was a creepy dude and a lot of people in the discipline, if not at UGA, realized it.

It bugs me a little to see the stories from "respectable" media outlets where he's been portrayed as a gentle soul and a good mentor: "He was such a wonderful guy ... what went wrong?" Pffftt.

While no one expected him to go off and shoot his wife, GZ seems to have had a very troubled past. To the extent that his past might hold clues as to what happened in Athens and what he might do next, this needs to be covered.

GMZ became a facebook fan of Clemson Univ a few days before the murders. Might Clemson have been one of the schools he was interviewing at?

If Clemson was one of the schools Z. was interviewing, perhaps even the one nearly ready to hire him, perhaps he recently was informed that there would be no job offer, and this it helped tip him into an angry despair.

UGA has known and covered up/minimized/ignored/rewarded GZ's bad behavior while systematically trying to squash those who have complained. The Marketing Department at the Terry College has a reputation of being one of the sickest, most dysfunctional work environments in acadame. UGA and its administrators over the last 15 years (provosts, deans, department head)should be held responsible for their failure to protect Marie Bruce, GZ's young/beautiful subordinate and other women faculty/students who have suffered at his GZ's brutal narcissitic and socipathic hands. I hope he is found soon...dead or alive. Only then will his still-living victims will feel safe.

It is May 2, and I've just read the story and comments.

I'm relieved to see finally an article online suggesting Zinkhan's violence against women. Very obviously, his murder of Marie Bruce was tragically the culmination of his need to control excessively and abuse his wife. Often the appearance of success or happiness masks family violence--this is not new!

It's essential that when such violence exists that it is named so in the media; in this way, our society does not continue the vicious circle of our hiding our heads in the sand about partner violence--a common problem, unfortunately.

It is a known fact that abusive husbands/partner get more ontrolling--even to the point of kiling their wives/partners--when the women begin the terrifying process of trying to leave. Horribly, three people became victims in Zinkhan's case.

Let's support all organizations committed to eradicating such violence and helping abused partners, learn the warning signs, educate others, and recognize and name such violence for what it is.
MC

Ummmm is anyone looking on the appalachian trail ? This guy was an avid hiker, who is obviously intelligent, do you think he really would try to get on an airplane ? He ditched is car in the woods, probably had alternate transportation, and my guess would be working his way to the trail, where he could spend time all the way through summer.

I read somewhere that he left his passport in his SUV and that he won't be leaving the country. Come on now, how obvious is that ? He is throwing investigators off track by leaving it in there, has it crossed their minds that, I don't know, maybe he is a smart man and either has a passport under a fake name or that he can get one?? And by leaving his own passport they expect him to not leave the country?? Why would a smart person in this situation use their own passport?

May 4

I think police/FBI should be looking for a body--underwater. Given his pathology, he'd probably take his life but he's too controlling to leave his body to be found. I guess the investigators are too afraid he's alive and might hurt others. If Zinkhan had planned the whole scenario, why did he bring the children with him and then have to take time to drop them off at a neighbor's?

Dragging nearby bodies of water might not be such a bad idea.

MC

It would be easy to get a passport, bank account, credit card or anything like that if you had a Social Security number. GZ might be able to get that by finding someone near his age who died and take that person's identity.

It is known that he is interested in motorcycling. Maybe he had a motorcyle stashed near the location where his vehicle was found. He speaks French, I've read, so maybe he's headed for Quebec.
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He cheated on Lydia for years and she divorced him for infidelity and cruelty. He was ALWAYS babe-hunting. He was very quiet and controlled great strength of feeling behind a mask. When one was with him, the way he zeroed in on any female is sight was markedly obvious. If she was pretty, he stared. If not, she was immediately forgotten. But he was devoted to his children and it's shocking he could do that to them. Not shocking that he snapped because SHE was having an affair. He's very jealous, possessive and controlling.
He DID have a conscience that might lead to suicide, BUT he's also very smart. There's another woman in Amsterdam, of course. Probably several current women in different places in the USA. He's NOT on the AT. The man wrote those bad poems about every place he went, so check Chicago, San Francisco, Vancouver, Baltimore, Dunn NC (where Chris lives), Richmond, LA, Jeckyll Island, Texas bayous near Houston, San Antonio, DC, Honolulu, etc.

Did they check for missing camping gear, iodine crystals for water, and clothes in his house? There is NO potable water in those woods. And I'm sure he does not know how to catch and eat a salamander.

I knew him at UH. He had many affairs with both PhD students as well as some faculty.... The sources were accurate... he pratically forcefully bedded every woman in the Phd program in the early 90's. He was a rubbish researcher, who had not done anything of note for years. He had similar issues at UGa. He also has a few bastards in Houston other than the two kids from his first wife, that he does not acknowledge.

MC, I tend to think he's dead, too, and might have concealed his body for the reasons you suggest.

But, on the other hand, even if he had not planned to murder his wife, et al, during the picnic, it does not follow necessarily that he had not formed a plan for taking her life, or formed a plan for escaping. He might have gone to the picnic to "collect" her, picked a fight with her in order to make her leave.

He might have been holding the threat of life or death, in his head, over her...
leaving his "moment" up to her and whatever behaviour she might exhibit at a particular moment.

I think, whether he has offed himself or not, that he has been mulling over murdering her for some time, and began to make concrete plans for his fantasy murder. He may even have made elaborate contingency plans, or just had some half-planned ones.

Maybe he always had a second identity for use in a contingency because he is a paranoiac.

If he's alive and he didn't plan so carefully, maybe he just lucked out in searches for him. He had his camping gear and went into the woods...and eventually time will run out for him.

Mktg faculty, I think your suggestion that he had a motorbike to escape on makes the most sense.

Much of what has been mentioned above is right on target. A few corrections:

1) My money is on the AT. The trail veers pretty close to Canada when it gets into New Hampshire. From there, it's not hard to imagine heading to the coast, getting passage on a boat, etc.

2) George and Lydia have 3 kids, not 2 unless one has died.

2) George left UH after that university decided to settle a lawsuit brought against him (and the university as well) for sexually harrassing 2 female professors (Dr. Julia Bristor from marketing and Dr. Anju Seth(?). In order to get a settlement without going to court, both women agreed not to talk about the case. Anju managed to land a job at the U. of Chicago so she took off. Bristor was given a desk in a broom closet somewhere on campus and continued getting paid for a while. I don't know what happened to her. Those grad students who were unlucky enough to have been named as witnesses for the female professors were kicked out of the program for various pretexts which had never before been used to "off" students. Those who were listed as witnesses for George were magically waved through the PhD program even though some could barely write a 10-page paper much less a decent dissertation.

The purpose of all this is to underscore the culpability of the University of Houston in knowingly covering up for George (he was legendary for the number of women he had harrassed on that campus), and for generally condoning a system that let the good old boys deny tenure to women professors for all kinds of interesting reasons that had NOTHING to do with scholarship or academic performance.

Bottom line: this type of unethical behavior on the part of universities needs to STOP. If UH had allowed George's case to come to trial in the open, it would have finally taught him that he couldn't get away with "murder."

>>dana said:
He cheated on Lydia for years and she divorced him for infidelity and cruelty. He was ALWAYS babe-hunting. He was very quiet and controlled great strength of feeling behind a mask. When one was with him, the way he zeroed in on any female is sight was markedly obvious. If she was pretty, he stared. If not, she was immediately forgotten. But he was devoted to his children and it's shocking he could do that to them. Not shocking that he snapped because SHE was having an affair. He's very jealous, possessive and controlling.
He DID have a conscience that might lead to suicide, BUT he's also very smart. There's another woman in Amsterdam, of course. Probably several current women in different places in the USA. He's NOT on the AT. The man wrote those bad poems about every place he went, so check Chicago, San Francisco, Vancouver, Baltimore, Dunn NC (where Chris lives), Richmond, LA, Jeckyll Island, Texas bayous near Houston, San Antonio, DC, Honolulu, etc.

Did they check for missing camping gear, iodine crystals for water, and clothes in his house? There is NO potable water in those woods. And I'm sure he does not know how to catch and eat a salamander.

Posted 05/06/2009 at 09:31:06 AM

Not sure if you're the same person who's posted on the Chronicle of Higher Ed, one of the Athens papers, etc. (all of the posts are of this vein and all are by someone who's named "Dana"), but have you ever thought of contacting the authorities? It seems you have some inside information that might be helpful to them (not sure they'll find postings in an onsite venue).

I am aware of the danger of reading too much into random events, but I suspect that there was a lot of premeditation and detailed planning that went into the shootings. The “heated argument” clearly had the effect of buying him some time to get away, due to the fact that the police (quite reasonably) assumed that it was a critical aspect of the crime. Having two children with him could have been contrived as well, giving the police further reason to assume that the crime was spontaneous and the outcome of an angry argument. They focused for ½ hour or more on gathering information while witnesses were easily available and memories were still fresh. The argument could easily have been provoked by GZ to (1) give him a way of plea bargaining if he were caught quickly, and (2) buy him time to carry out his escape plan if he was able to get away from the crime scene.

Regarding the latter, it seems unlikely that he devised his plan for hiding a red Jeep Liberty on the spur of the moment. He knew where to go and how to hide it. It might have been hidden for months if he had not made one mistake. Even though his cell phone was turned off, it apparently emitted a signal that led police to the Jeep. (If the phone and wireless are turned off, I would think that the physical location of the phone would be untraceable, as GZ also may have assumed, but apparently that is not always true.)

Finally, it seems likely that he had an accomplice, perhaps a female friend who might have rationalized her complicity as “loyalty to the man I love,” spurred on by promises of a future with GZ. Meeting up with someone who could drive him out of the area in a vehicle not known to the police would have been very convenient, but it would have required careful planning. It certainly would be safer than (say) hiking 1,000 miles to Canada. As for GZ’s supposed hiking ability, the guy is not physically fit at all. He is at least 50 pounds overweight and his appearance simply is not that of a physically robust person. I would guess that he currently is living a low-key life under an assumed name with a female companion. Remember that Eric Rudolph, the Centennial Olympic Park bomber, apparently lived in North Georgia and Western North Carolina for five or more years without being recognized by anyone who was inclined to turn him in.

I worked with GZ at U of H for many years. I was on staff when he was recruited. He was never a neat or flamboyant guy, and carried himself as most of the other young professors (friendly, sociable, etc.).

I am kind of shocked to be hearing so many versions of this because he was an ordinary guy, was never seen angry or in any controlling mood.

I remember preparing classwork for him and if for some reason it was not ready for classtime, he was always helpful in trying to get it together to take it to class. He used to take time to bounce the basketball in the corridor with my son who is now 31.

It is so sad that this has happened to him and his family. I knew his first wife lydia and their first child. Whatever the cause of their divorce, one has to say that these things happens in all walks of life and people go their separate ways for whatever reason so why dig into his past marriage and compare to this one.

I do hope he is found alive and can be brought to justice. If he is caught, all these speculations may stop and one can hear his side of this sad story.

Why is everyone coming forward now talking of sexual harrassment "Come on, this is America" The land of plentiful, land of justice...............what happen to the law. If someone was raped by him, had bastard children from him or was harassed by him, there are channels to go through to get justice.....so what stop those (women, after women as potrayed here)?

This is just a sad story, so for the children's sake lets not throw all his cats out of the bag as yet. Rumors may do them more bad than good. They have to live with this tragedy and all that is negative may do harm than good to this youngones.

We have to be mindful of the results of this on the children

My heart goes out to them.

I was on the faculty at UH and most of the faculty members did not like him, ie. the chairman at the time of the mktg dept there was another professor like him who got into a lot of trouble iwth factuly and staff and left around the same time he did.

I certainly hope relatives of those murdered are quick to file lawsuits against the U. of Houston. After all, isn't this typical of the behavior that has put the Post-Vatican II Catholic Church in such moral and financial hot water?

Schools - from grade schools to universities have set a terrible example of allowing freaks they employ to quit rather than be fired, thereby allowing them to move on (as their behavior continues to deteriorate) to some new school and new set of innocent students who will soon find themselves corrupted or hurt by the 'educator'.

GZ was not the only professor at UH that hit on female doctoral students during the 1980's and 1990's. It was very common and there were NO reprimands. I agree with anonymous that the protection of predators by the good ole boy network needs to stop. When will universities take notice and do the right thing? The sexual pursuit of female doctoral students by (some) male faculty is common as dirt, especially if the student is attractive. Many male academics were nerds growing up and now have the chance to exploit their power over female junior faculty and students, and some of them are predators. And administrators too often let it pass or look the other way.

I have no direct knowledge about his dealings at UGA, except what an honest colleague of mine, formerly at UGA, has told me. Some faculty at Terry called GZ "lover boy." As soon as he got there he had a very open affair with one of the departmental staff members and consistently harrassed other women. The marketing faculty at UGA knew about this and many thought it was scandalous. But he was powerful--a chaired professor, and at one time the department chair. Both UH and UGA are to blame in this circumstance for not doing the right thing soon enough. After the shooting, the president of UGA was quoted as saying that GZ was a "respected" faculty member. This suggests that the president is either uninformed or dishonest. While no one would have predicted a triple murder, the fact is that GZ engaged in exploitative behavior toward woman for years, with little apparent cost or consequence. If he had been given a hard pushback early on, things might have turned out differently. We'll never know.

mkg prof too said: "As soon as he got there he had a very open affair with one of the departmental staff members"

And that staff member was Marie Bruce! We ALL knew about it. There were rumors that they were found in one of the closets together. Marie must have know what he was like before they were married, because SHE was the woman du jour woman at the time (1994-96).

We also ALL knew about the rumors in Houston before GZ was hired... and we were students! How could the faculty and administration not have known? At the time, UGA was very hungry to beef up its research reputation. Several other top researchers had been courted for the newly acquired Coca-Cola endowed chair position and had turned it down--it became embarrassing. Zinkhan accepted (rumor had it that he needed to get our of Houston ASAP) and there was no way the folks at UGA were going to let him go.

The graduate students had a nickname for this guy: Chester the Molester.

A commentary on how out of touch with reality we as a society have let these goddamn weirdos in education go, and we pay them these outrageous salaries!!!

George Zinkhan's behavior is seen in any profession where men have more status and power over others. Catholic priests, doctors, teachers ,other clergy, police, bosses at work, politicians, etc. Men harassing and killing women will not stop until women expose this behavior early and take action and when folks in supervisory positions take allegations seriously.

Men will cover up for other men who have abnormal, criminal behavior, even judges. Women are afraid to come forward for fear of being beaten. Look at Drew Peterson who has finally been arrested for the murder of his third wife. Friends and family report she often had black eyes and she would not report it, I am sure for fear of retribution.

Yet another example is Philip Markoff, 2nd year med. student who exhibited abnormal behavior in high school for years including when he was in the lab at med. school. His parents ignored obvious signs of mental illness early. His lab partner reported he there were days when he would act depressed, put his head down on the lab counter. The med. school professors had to have witnessed this behavior. And his fiance had to have seen abnormal behavior which she decided to ignore and she's studying to be a doctor, also. Very scary.

And the man who just shot and killed a woman he was stalking.

We should have a system where anyone who suspects that a friend, family member is being abused can file a report just like we do for child and elder abuse. There is entirely too much violence against women(and children) in America. We have a very sick, chauvinistic, male dominated society. We are raising men to be misogynists.

Zinkhan was a selfish coward as one person observed.

It would be really nice if there were clear behavioral cues that conclusively pointed to reporting people to mental health or law enforcement authorities for proper treatment or incarceration. Unfortunately, the clues aren't that clear. And, if they were, smart people could (and arguably do) simply behave well enough to avoid detection. And, the systems we have in place are inadequate to even begin providing mental health support for people who obviously need it (much less people who manage to hide their need for treatment). Finally, if we were to imagine a system that instantly locked up all people of this person's type, how authoritarian and repressive would we find that?

This situation might echo some other cases in the news lately of men who have perceived their careers about to go under because of pending harassment charges on campuses--there have been some other high-profile suicides lately. It's great that the behavior is being addressed finally, but it represents a huge sea change in societal attitudes toward the behavior of men in positions of authority, and those who can't adjust quickly enough sometimes tragically find themselves about to lose more than they can tolerate.

My heart goes out to all the children.

mktg faculty said:"he struck me as a classic narcissist."

I don't know him but his CV is way longer than it needs to, has evidence of padding if you know what to look for.
He had an inflated opinion of himself.

For example:___
Society for Marketing Advances Award for Best Dissertation Proposal (Dissertation Chair for Margy Conchar, $500 grant), 1998.
...
Academy of Marketing Science Award for Best Dissertation Proposal (Dissertation Chair for Yue Pan, $500 grant), 2002.

Promotion and tenure letters written for the following institutions: (huh)
...
RESEARCH DISSEMINATION
Summaries of my research findings have been published or broadcast by:
Wall Street Journal
Cosmopolitan ( USA Today
Ms. Magazine
Prolog
, Public Relations Society of America Ad Week Psychology Today
New York Law Journal
Skin & Ink
KTRH, AM Houston WXYZ, Detroit WOR, New York and various other radio stations around the country (

Who's Who in America, 1997 - present;
Who's Who in the World, 1995 - present;
Who's Who in the Media and Communications, 1995 - present;
Who's Who in Science and Engineering, 1994 - present;
Who's Who in Finance and Industry, 1994 - present;
Who’s Who in the South and Southwest, 1988 - present;
Who’s Who in Advertising, 1989 - present;
[these are vanity publications, not legit.

Lack of selection standards (incl. self-inclusion) are illustrated in
http://www.forbes.com/forbes-life-magazine/1999/0308/063.html]

Men of Achievement, Cambridge, England, 1988 - present;
Selected as an "Outstanding Young Man of America," 1984 - 1991

Wow! I'm amazed at all the talk of why GZ wasn't reprimanded, scolded, censured, etc...when what he really needed was to have a good ole fashioned can of WHOOP ASS! opened up on him.

Don't expect UGA faculty or admin. to own any of it. They're singing Zinkhan's academic praises loud and clear at the UGA student paper, "Red & Black". Their story is he was a brilliant scholar and a saint--right up until the minute he murdered three people--and they're sticking to it. Words and phrases like "University liability" and "the reputation of Terry College of Business" keep sneaking into their attacks on the one teacher who tried to expose Zinkhan for years. Makes me sick to see such immorality and denial.

NOTE FROM STEVE: The only insulting, trollish comment made on any of these entries about Zinkhan (it wasn't published) came from someone who'd clicked the original link to this blog from an "randb.com" e-mail account (that was all I could tell about them, but it was enough). I thought that was interesting.

Thanks for the info, Steve.

I had a chance to meet Professor Zinkhan at an invited talk. He seemed to be ordinary but wasnt very warm and approachable. But one thing is for sure, he was quite prolific when it came to publishing good research.

I had also heard from other colleagues that he was all over the young females during doctoral consortiums etc.(many times seen in a tipsy condition) and that he was known to have slept with many of his doctoral students over the years. I believe that these things have to have some truth in them otherwise they wouldnt have been going around.

Being a professor myself, I passionately hate those in this profession who misuse the advantage or power they might have over students or fellow colleagues. I encourage all female students, especially the doctoral ones who are more prone to such advances, to please be courageous in dealing with such individuals and do not compromise at any cost.

Even if half of what I have heard about GZ's past is true, he should have been kicked out of academia a long time back, no matter how good of a researcher he was. Somethings shouldnt be negotiable.

When I read of this incident I profiled GZ. Even though I am in another state. Without having the knowledge or the details of his personal history I tagged him right on in what I have read here in the real truth of his personality. I knew right away that he wasn't going to flee by commit suicide. He was a classic sociopath. They never get better only worse as they are addicted in attaining whatever serves their needs. Because I am still married to a guy just like him in education also. He to did all the very same things GZ has done in his life. The education system protects him and he left the area for new prey touting his credentials while doing the same thing to women. He was brazen just as GZ with the sinning. And got a woman pregnant whom lives out of town and now trying to show an image of the "family guy" while he ruined three children's lives to me. Of course I was treated like those women (not of someone of a 23 yr marriage) he would force himself upon after he walked away and then I had to fight for my life for support. Yes I know GA quite well. It seems that these "suite and tie" sociopaths are exactly all the same with little differances. They can not love as they are in love with themselves. They can talk their way through situations and it is all lies and only the closest know them. They simply ruin peoples lives and then flee to another town when they get bored or people are on to them. And they will never accept responsiblity for their actions. GA was not going to let Bruce dump him because of his ego. Now if he was going to dump Bruce then it would be quite differant as he was not done with her yet. They are the most adulterous sociopaths you ever want to meet and exploit others. And they try to come off as the king warm guy but that is just a mask as they go off after their victims one by one. What is OUTRAGEOUS is that these individuals are in the education systems across the nation. When they get bored (never punished as the system then just wants to get rid of them) they move on to new territory their justifications are a new challenge etc...or they had been their to long. All an excuse to move on like child molestors. And age doesn't stop them as they need young women to secure their insecure personalities. They use people. And we should have an outrage of the "good old boy net work" in the communities of colleges and schools across the nation. Simply they should be thrown out!!!!!!!!!! No chances.

I would like to add yes these predators (GA was exactly that) use their intelligence to the hilt. Their the true workaholics or so they say. They are about using their power over other to exploit what they want. And they are good at building an image otherwise to deceive. The man and their are more just like him should have been stopped a long time ago but Universities don't like bad publicity. Sad part is that women are then abused by people like GA and the system makes the women look like the enemy. GA knew exactly what he was doing. And I do not believe the family guy routine either because his first wife was his victim and the two children he simply walked away from. GA was not going to make that work or take responsibility he just wanted some "new meat" to say it crudely and how dare you to question him because intellectial sociopaths have a way of covering themselves. They make mistakes according to them all the time and please forgive them as they ruin lives. Unfortunately the murder could have been stopped by the universities if they would have acknowledged that this guy used his power for sex position and fired him. Sad again for the wonderful good male professors who do not take advantage of their positions for power romps or ego. People that are angered have a right to be angered and at the institutions that give them second chances or sweep these behaviors under the rug for their prestige. How many and I say how many victims of GA. I say let them come forward and let us count the numbers of women that worked with him that were made to feel uncomfortable and knew he was going after his students lining them up to try out like candy then discarding them after the pleasure was over. How many women felt intimidated by the system that could not speak out and when they did were made to feel as if they were the criminal. How many? Not just three dead victims but a long long trail starting from his his first wife, two children, second wife, three children, numerous young innocent women that were students, female colleags, and people that he fooled and betrayed into believing he was a wonderful wonderful guy. How many victims in his trail? But remember he was just a nice guy and a real super brilliant do nothing who used his position of power and gab of talking.

It is rather odd how everyone says the murder could have been stopped if only the university had fired him. What, you don't think it would have happened anyways? He was going to murder people regardless of whether he was a professor or an unemployed professor.

If the moments his next door neighbor had with him were "forced" maybe he should have tried "blunt and forced" once. Why did no one confront him on his philandering? His lifestyle? His choices? His womanizing? His choices as a man? As a husband? As a neighbor? As a father. With two sets of kids. Two marriages. As a professor? As the recipient of very large tuition payments? Was he a sexual predator who somehow got missed by the Dateline stings? (Was he?) Was his wife screwing around too? Was she? Has no one in the south ever heard the old tale of the jealous husband and the gun? Do they get country music down there?

Regarding the University responsibility. Yes the University was responsible in some degree. The University knew of this man's behavior. They knew prior also to hiring him as the last University he was at was hit with law suits. He was simply a predator and the institutions he worked for were his candy store. As the people there how many women he intimidated or the students he came on to and exploited. Yes that is what sociopaths due they exploit to get what they want and in his case no one dared stop him. What about the women who had to keep their mouth shut. What about the first family he just pretended did not exist any longer because he moved on to new material. His first wife was abused mentally and emotionally for years. And the University new quite while about his character. University's are responsible because they simply new about his very very very bad abusive and controlling behavior to his students (only the ones he wanted to get in bed with) and the faculty. In his case he ended up losing his cool because he was not about to be put down by his wife but yet he could abuse her and it was okay. He ended up mudering. He was never a "good guy". He was a sociopath, very dangerous one, in the waiting.

I totally agree with "anonymous", the part that said: "It seems that these 'suite and tie' sociopaths are exactly all the same with little differances. They can not love as they are in love with themselves. They can talk their way through situations and it is all lies and only the closest know them."
When I read that part, it reminded me of an eery similarity of a lawyer here in athens,ga. He fits that description to a T. I won't say his name as I'm scared to.
But I did get a good chuckle from some of the guys post on here, "Adam" & one from "Dave".
Adam said: "Wow! I'm amazed at all the talk of why GZ wasn't reprimanded, scolded, censured, etc...when what he really needed was to have a good ole fashioned can of WHOOP ASS! opened up on him."
Dave said: "If the moments his next door neighbor had with him were "forced" maybe he should have tried "blunt and forced" once. Why did no one confront him on his philandering? His lifestyle? His choices? His womanizing? His choices as a man? As a husband? As a neighbor? As a father. ...."
I was laughing & feeling better reading their posts. And their posts tells me that there are still good guys out there. And oh how I wish one of them would get a good hold of that sociopath womanizing creepy lawyer here in Athens. *sigh*

Some comforting advice from another poster:
"Sandy said:
From everything I have learned about this man, George Zinkhan, he appears to be a classic example of a narcissist. Unfortunately, I have had to deal with some of these narcissist-types, and the result has always been unpleasant, for me. They are universally selfish individuals, who have no recognition of the rights of others. The only advice a sane person needs with regard to this type individual is this: The moment you realize what you are dealing with (narcissism), run to the nearest exit, and don't ever let that narcissistic thing near you, again. I can state categorically that every ONE of the narcissists I have known has eventually caused serious trouble for their family, friends, and business associates. They continue to regularly try to cause even MORE trouble, even after they have been disowned and shunned by those wise enough to see through their selfish, selfish ways. Avoid these narcissists as if they were certain death, which they do sometimes turn out to be, as in the case of George Zinkhan."

A personality has to be pretty selfish to break up a family for the sake of an orgasm. Think about it. You have to not care pretty badly to let your kids down in that way. To crush their hopes. Their home. Their family. Their stability. The core of their lives. To let your spouse down in that way is pretty selfish too. To let down all the relatives and friends who filled the pews at your wedding, and took your word at face value when you spoke your vows.

Now granted, leaving your kids in the car while you shoot their mother, and then running to the woods to shoot their father too - that seems extremely selfish. But selfish it is.

You call it "narcissistic personality disorder." OK. Nice label. It means selfish p***k. Self-centered jerk.

And you say that society ought to have ways to deal with that sort of personality. Ways that are more effective then the Ostrich, head-in-the-ground thing that we (the neighbors, colleagues, friends, students, acquaintences, lovers and other people in life) bring to it now.

Maybe his employer should fire him. Maybe he should be shamed and forced to wear a scarlet A on his vest.

Maybe we should turn Stalinist Russia on guys like him. Spy on him and turn him into the government. Maybe we should break into his house and steal his hard drive and find out what he's thinking. Maybe we should go all secret police, and fire not only guys with "the disorder," but also guys who even seem to be the least bit abnormal.

Or maybe, just maybe, we should be good enough friends to just talk to each other. Was psychotherapy really George's only hope to heal his "disorder?" What about a trusted friend...?

Thank you female in Athens for your comment. GA will be forgotten someday but the victims in this case his children from both women are the ones that have to live the harsh reality of the "sins of their father". You can tell a narcissist/sociopath by the trail of the victims they leave behind. Even if you run far away their mere contact with you cause some permanent damage. Your Athens lawyer who is scarry may or may not eventually succumb but everyone he comes into contact with will be swindled in some way or another as they are about thrills and attention. Over inflated ego's. How do I know this. I am still married to one for over 20 years like the first wife of GZ. Same mo and in education to. And you know what the educational system did they covered it all up. And he has illigitimate children to. When they are done with you they try to discredit you by making you the "crazy one". It is called crazy making. Just like his victims from the Huston sexual harassment lawsuits who suffered psychological damage from this guy. Even the university made them out to be the crazy ones to protect their own image not brilliant GA who went to his next university looking and finding his next victims for the hunt. But these guy betray the trust of the public and their employers in the end. They are predators point blank. And any institution that covers it up is subjecting their students and faculty or staff to harm from them. And who suffers but the children left behind that do not have normal loving bonds or ties because the parent was a monster in disguise. A Dr. Jekyl Dr. Hyde.

Those who make light of this man's behavior are no more than aiders and enablers of sexual abusers and murderers. Judging from what has been said about the universities and how they handled this narcissist/killer I would say such places are to be avoided, even as one strives to avoid contact with churches whose bishops hide and enable criminal activity and then look the other way.

I think that you all have way too much time on your hands. Use your energies on something worthwhile other than arguing about a man who was troubled - but is dead - so it is over.....

vDave said: "If the moments his next door neighbor had with him were "forced" maybe he should have tried "blunt and forced" once. Why did no one confront him on his philandering? His lifestyle? His choices? His womanizing? His choices as a man? As a husband? As a neighbor? As a father. ...."

Because he is one of the elite. No one is going to touch him. This happens a lot at all levels of education. I had an ex that was sent to another school after an accusation of harassment. He has a personality somewhat similar to GZ I have a feeling.

I have been following the Elizabeth Olten crime very close. The things you can find on the world wide web can sometimes be amazing. Here is a link to Alyssa Bustamante's Youtube videos. I am sure by now most of everyone that is online searching for the juvenile that murdered precious little Elizabeth Olten has discovered who the MONSTER

Here is the link for the Youtube for the Murdering delinquent.

http://www.youtube.com/user/OkamiKage#p/u