Part of blame rightfully belongs on the churches who approve or ignor the murder of millions of babies and accept as righteous men who do abortions...
These churches are like the hypocrites who had Jesus killed for blasphemy for saying He is Son of God..
The only thngs comparable to Jesus are newborn babies who have no sin...To murder or approve of the murder of these inncents makes these worse that those who killed Jesus.. At least those could claim ignorance of the truth...

Good riddance. He was a barbarian who ripped living humans out of their mother's bodies... and threw them in the garbage like junk mail. We're talking about children who were a month or two away from sitting in their grandparent's laps.

Ruth and Greg,

You two need some education here. Read this:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2004/01/25/my_late_term_abortion/

DS, they need some education? That link told the story of a woman who chose to murder her child instead of let the child live. That child deserved a chance just as much as any other child.

I'm pro a lot of things, i'm even pro war but this didnt have to end like it did.... tiller should have been locked up not shot... when christ went into the temple he cast them out, he didnt kill them on the steps of the house of the lord

Miranda,

Did you read anything? The child would have not lived outside the womb.

Yeah, and a lot of those children would have been sitting on the laps of grandfathers who were also their dads.

Also, murder refers to an illegal act. Abortion is not illegal. Pro-"life" people (who are all about life until the person is born, the biggest hypocrisy of all) are nothing more than domestic terrorists. When you try to do God's work (I recall a little part of the Bible that states that only God may judge, and you should love everyone, but hey, that's not conducive to their stance!) you are lowering yourself to the very level of those you condemn so harshly.

If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. Using violence, your threats of hell and your false allegations of "murder" when referring to a legal act only make you look foolish and are what drives people away from Christianity every single day.

Another American hero killed by the 'sanctity of life' crowd.

Live by the sword...

murder by those who claim they oppose murder.

they want privacy rights and choice for themselves, but not others. they want government to stay out of their lives, but not others. they want to control their lives (and others).

yeah, the hypocrisy is stunning. and always above their comprehension.

as another poster stated: if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.

otherwise, butt out of other people's lives -- particularly adults -- but including other families -- who can make their own decisions without your control freak theocratic-fascism.

and get to work adopting all those poor and abandoned babies, especially the parentless children of color you're all so concerned about.

yeah, i thought so.

More recent accounts reveal that the doctor was murdered IN the church, as he was serving as an usher for this Sunday's services. Now, I wonder how God & Jesus feel about THAT level of blasphemy?

the abortion doctor should never be in church thats just what i think? texas

The anti abortion movement really is a terrorist conspiracy.

Anybody guessing the killer's profile. We know he's a white male, aged 51, from the area. It will be interesting to see what's on his computer at home and how many false christian sites he's connected to. I personally know two grown women who had abortions, one in her 20's and one in her 30's, and both were and are Republican Christians.

Good riddance... one late term abortion that wasn't innocent.

"If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one."

Is that kind of like, if you don't believe in rape, don't do it? The above statement is a cute little quip, but I'm afraid it doesn't wash.

I'm not a christian, but you don't have to be a christian to have morals and to be pro-life. I say, GOOD RIDDANCE. Some people might say that I have a double-standard because I'm both against abortion, but I'm happy this man was finally killed. Just because I'm pro-life doesn't mean that I'm against the death penalty. If you take a life intentionally you are guilty of MURDER, and MURDER should all be punishable by DEATH. I can only imagine the number of babies this man killed.

What an irony that he died in a place of worship. Maybe his god was finally fed up with his hypocricy? I've no sympathy for a man who would dare kill defenseless children in their mothers' wombs. I hear that if the children survived the abortion he'd murder them anyway by sucking their brains out or strangling them to death? This man SICKENS me. GOOD RIDDANCE. This man got what he deserved. So may it be to all murderers of unborn children. Death to them ALL.

To whining "pro-women's rights" people: What about the rights of the child? Or does the child have no rights as long as a doctor keeps its head stuffed in your v*gina? You want something to do with your body? GET A HYSTERECTOMY and STOP KILLING CHILDREN. I'm GLAD this man is dead. Guilty of murder. Justice was done. All such men should be tried this way. Maybe there is a god after all.

First of all, the man was hardly a hero. He left a baby blind, paralyzed, and mentally retarded by injecting formaldehyde into her brain. He let his bungling, incompetent staff kill a mentally disabled teenager. He kept his supposedly deathly ill patients in a motel room with their babies rotting inside of them for three days instead of hospitalizing them. Even if you're "prochoice", this doesn't seem like the sort of stuff you'd approve of.

Second of all, some Tiller supporters are confusing recognizing the evil that he did with celebrating his murder. But I bet I can think of an example of of Tiller's supporters recognizing the evil somebody did, while not wishing them dead. Every time a murderer is executed. You can hate, for example, what Ted Bundy did to Kimberly Leach, the Chi Omega sisters, and his other victims, and still not have wanted to see him fry. You can hate what he did, in fact, and actually be sorry and upset that he fried. Not because you thought he'd done no evil, but because you thought killing him was to indulge in that same evil. THAT is how prolifers can despise what Tiller did, and still not wish to see him murdered. Can you understand that?

I'm betting that the dudes posting on here in support of a crazed right-wing terrorist are the type of guys who have never had to worry about knocking anything up besides their own hands or a lubed up sock.

Do you want the government to outlaw your right to your body and quality care?

I hope your loved ones are not turned away from quality doctor care. One of mine was after being stalked and raped by a policeman. She was luckier than others and survived a nonprofessional abortion.

Remember Jesus stated, "He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her." Some religious fanatics still stone raped women and try to own women. Who should own them as a slave?

We know women with tubal pregnancies who would have died if ecclesiastical zealots had their way. We knew women with high blood pressure that did die in pregnancy and chose their path. Notice exodus describes no penalty for women who choose to terminate pregnancy, nor does any Bible passage.

I don't see many women leaving the number of children they have up to someone else. My grandmother let the church decide and had 18 pregnancies. Women should be allowed to regulate their own bodies, starting with ovulation and contraception.

140 million orphan children and their mothers would love to be valued as much as embryos and feti are advertised. Notice most Pro-Lifers act as if life ends at birth. Are you willing to help mothers keep their children or to adopt ORPHANED children?

My aunt almost orphaned 7 children while delivering a fetus that hadn't a skull. She was allowed choices.

In medicine, a fetus becomes a baby when it take its first breath. Then, its siblings recognize it and it's named, christened, given citizenship, and celebrates its birthday. The value of a embryo or fetus is up to the person doing the work to create a new being. Unless you're willing to become a surrogate, it appears the only way to give rights to embryos and feti is to take away the rights of men, women, and children.

Please value women and her children.

If you want to reply, please use correct terminology rather than fallacies, such as begging the question and ad hominems.

If we're going to use the correct terminology, we need to stop calling those who want to take away women's rights to choose "pro-life" as they are clearly not for any life once it's born. Even here on the comments we have people applauding the fact he was gunned down in a church - one even saying it must have been God's work.

REALLY?!

So, I'm sure those self-righteous ones here saved themselves until marriage and live by EVERY single word of the Bible then? And then the comment about him being in church and how he shouldn't - hello, he was a million times the person you (or I, for that matter) will ever be, since he had faith in both his God and in preserving the right of a woman to have access to a life-saving procedure if she needed it.

Once again, NO WOMAN suddenly wakes up in the 8th month of pregnancy and says "you know what, I'm sick of being pregnant, I want an abortion." These women either found out the child was going to die after birth or not have a good life (in the article I linked above, they mention conjoined twins with one lung or a baby with a three-chambered heart - these things are FATAL conditions, people). There are now only two places in the US that perform this service for women, and you know what happens when those get shut down? Back-alley abortions that will lead to more tragedy.

Until we start treating these anti-choice people as what they are (domestic terrorists, making sure no one can have a voice in the matter, much like those Islamic governments they hate so much!) we're going to see some more hypocrisy from that crowd. Oh sure, it's a life while it's in the womb, but once it does something you disagree with, all bets are off and it's perfectly okay to kill, even in the house of God. Ugh, you guys make me sick.

And I'm betting that Nancy Collins doesn't really believe this murdering "doctor" was anybody's hero. Please look up the definition of hero before you start proclaiming an incompetent doctor as such.

Any person that would enter a church and kill another living human being, because of a political or religious view is an irrational,psychotic extremist! And they refer to themselves as "pro-lifers" and yet they bomb clinics, murder doctors,and harass women. Abortion has been legal for 36 years now so you so called "pro-lifer's" need to get used to it, its not going to change, yet bombing clinics, harassment and shooting people IS AGAINST THE LAW. Abortions need to be legal because whether you are for it or against it,legal or not legal, abortions will still happen. Women have and should have the right to decide whether to continue or terminate a pregnancy, and should have qualifed medical Doctors available to them to perform the procedure. Its a personal choice, you never know what the circumstances are that might lead to a woman being confronted with the decision to terminate a pregnancy. Now a church and its community has been traumatized by this lunatic"pro-lifer" a doctor has been murdered, and the shooter will spend the rest of his days in prison, the events that occured today have negatively effected so many innocent people and the relatives left behind...there was nothing ACCOMPLISHED today by this man and his actions, it was just pure evil what he did. And last and most important of all for any of you proclaimed christians, remember "Only God can pass judgement", and we are suppose to obey the "laws of the land" its not up to us to judge and persecute people, thats between them and God.

My granddaughter was 11 weeks early. She's 2 now, and she is the most wonderful child in the world (at least, my world!).

I am so shocked and disturbed by most of the comments here. Really people?

I'm concerned about my own feelings about this killing; on one hand I'm glad the "doctor" was given a "lead injection", as I find his "practice" to be a terrible and ghastly "horror chamber".

I am [also] against murder, so I disagree with vigilante justice, and those who use it to further their ideals.

I am not sorrowful [at all] for the death of a disgusting person like the "doctor", and I [actually] am glad it happened, though I wish his death had come differently; like a car accident or such.

I guess the best I can do is feel good about it while [also] be against it simultaneously.

I love it...the men commenting here (judging by their names) are all about forgiving this man for shooting and killing another in a church! WTH? I had to look, and there are only 2% of households where the father is a single care giver to child/children. When that becomes more equal in the grand scheme of things, then men should have more weight when it comes to women making decisions for their bodies and their lives. Abortion, giving a child up for adoption or raising a child alone should be a woman's decision as she is the one to live the consequences. (ref: http://www.fa-ir.org/alabama/cu/father_custody.htm)

It is terroristic for Christians to try and dictate to the rest of this country how to live. That is no different than Islamic countries. If you want it mandated that we all follow the laws of God, or at least your version of it, then work politically to change things. There is a separation of church and state for a very good reason. If you don't like the fact that the laws of our land are made by man and not God, feel free to move to Iran or some other theocratic society.

I ask the Christians to think on this: Does one sin mean more than another to your God?

Honestly, the glee some of you have received and related about this story has me very afraid of what kind of society I live, when the Christians have lost their meek and gentle ways.

I can only imagine that the man who shot Tiller was acting under the beliefs being fed to him by his religion and whatever media outlet that may have coincided with those religious beliefs.

In my opinion; he acted no differently that an Al Qaeda follower or suicide bomber might act.

Ironically, this does nothing to promote the so-called "Pro-Life" movement.

CDMKY: Why the quotes around doctor? The man went to medical school, he was a doctor. I'm willing to wager you didn't go to medical school.

Another article: http://iowaindependent.com/2565/open-letter-to-obama-a-personal-perspective-on-late-term-abortion

This doctor performed legal abortions. Ya wing nuts ought to be camping out & protesting on the courthouse steps and feeling good everytime one of the judges that voted to make abortion legal dies. Wonder how well it would play with citizens if one of the fruit loops murdered a few judges? Rejoice? Feel good, weep with tears of joy and praise God?

Would it be called domestic terrorism at that point?

A woman has a right to her body and a right to terminate a pregnancy. Those of you who advocate violence about this rather unremarkable right that all women have around the world need to ask yourself why this makes you so angry that you want to kill? You sound like sociopaths.

Ruth- use spell check before you hit enter.
Greg- "Good riddance", you say? 1. SHUT UP. 2. Get a uterus and maybe a woman, ANY WOMAN, MIGHT...listen to your inane comments. 3. Barbarians are uneducated. Dr. Tiller was not a barbarian. 4. I can just about guarantee you that there was nothing that was "thrown in the garbage like junk mail", unless it was junk mail. 5. Contrary to rumor, not all grandparents like having newborns, infants, or children sitting on their laps...especially if it something that will suffer needlessly all its life. Most grandparents are a bit more sensitive about that sort of thing. 6. Pregnant women go to the doctor for their abortions. Doctors do not solicit preganant women offering abortions. 7. Next time you get pregnant, alert the media; we will all be waiting with baited breath, just like we did for that other guy that got pregnant. OOOOpppsss....I meant that other WOMAN that got pregnant; she was just playing a man on TV.
Nancy- good point. Incest, rape, and failed birth control measures comprise a good 90% of the reasons listed for abortions. The majority of those pregnant women did not become a willing victim of incest or rape (these two terms just do not fit in the same sentence with "voluntary"), and those whose birth control measures failed...well, they were taking steps to prevent pregnancy. They did not want to get or be pregnant. For the guys out there....It's kind of like when the brakes go out on your truck and you hit the car in front of you..well, your brakes failed to do their job, right? You did not want to hit that car in front of you; your brakes just failed. Ya get it yet?
Oh, and Nancy- good comment on the use of "hands or a lubed up sock"...yukky visual for me, but I am sure the guys can relate to it.
Chris- thank you. No, this murder of Dr. Tiller does nothing for the Pro-lifers, other than make the news again, and puts another murderer behind bars. I read a bumper sticker the other day and it said "Just say NO to sex with pro-lifers"; reckon that is one way of taking care of things.
CDMCKY- your ambivilance is disgusting. Take a stand or shut the F up.
Kevin- I know the feeling you have regarding your grandchild. I have eight of them, and they are all precious. It would be a beautiful thing if all grandchildren born were as welcomed as ours; the reality is just the opposite.
Jaden- yes, dear...be very afraid! The world is not kind to those of us that wear rose colored glasses. As much as we want it to be different, man really hasn't changed much over the eons we have been on this Earth, even before we made up religions. "The meek shall inherit the Earth" isn't just a saying in the many versions of a bible that float around the globe today; it is a scary truth nevertheless. Majority RULES!! No matter if that majority is made up of the Hell's Angels, Black/White Power, Pro-lifers...or, those meek and mild "christans" looking for their piece of the action. Of course now...G O D is on their side!

For everyone out there, let me make this as plain and as simple as the other comments I have placed here...
NO WOMAN EVER JUST WAKES UP PREGNANT. NO WOMAN EVER JUST WAKES UP PREGNANT, SNAPS HER FINGERS AND DECIDES THAT- oh my...let's see, today i get my pedicure at 8:30a, drop the dog off at the groomer"s by 10, hhmmm, oh yeah, i need to run by the abortion clinic and take care of this unwanted and unplanned pregnancy.
Any decision that is important and life-changing in any woman's life, is one thing that is mulled over for quite sometime before a decision is reached. When it comes to having an abortion, that too is a decision that is improtant and life-changing. Why would any woman just do it for no reason? The answer is, she doesn't!
She does it for many reasons. They are all hers. They are all important aspects in her life. They are all factors in her decision.
Why is it any different if she chooses to seek a doctor of dermatology for the mole on her thigh that looks like it could be cancerous, that it is to seek another medical professional's assistanne in ending a pregnancy? The need is the same, at least in a doctor's eye. Medical professionals of all manner of health care services have sought, earned, and accomplished their right to be of service to those in need; be they a leper, syphillic, pregnant, whatever. It has been so with healers and caregivers since the beginning of time; it will never change.
When it comes to judgement, and you're supposed to be a CHRISTIAN..leave the judging to your god. If you take his job away from him, he might be pretty-well ticked off when it comes to your turn at those pearly gates you profess to belive in. When that role is called up yonder, you might just find yourself stranded on the streets of hell, with some other folks just like yourself!

I was hesitant to peek at the comments here; I've been trying to shield myself from the ignorance spewed by people who just don't understand the critical need for people like Tiller and the services he provided. It's been disturbingly hard to escape. I'm EXTREMELY glad to see facts and reason winning out here. Big thanks to DS, Emily, Nancy C. and others.

I am pro-life and I think it is horrible that this man was murdered. I am pro-LIFE and that means all life. No one deserves to have their lives taken away from them (including unborn children). Abortion is not pro-choice, it is anti-consequence. The choice is made when the woman becomes pregnant.

PJ- First, take a deep breath. It will be ok!

Second, you really shouldn't criticize people for their spelling mistakes when you are providing completely inaccurate information. Your statement of "Incest, rape, and failed birth control measures comprise a good 90% of the reasons listed for abortions," is horribly wrong.

The birth control pill is about 99% accurate (http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/birth-control-pill) and condoms are about 95% effective (http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=416&Itemid=336).

Also, rape and incest account for about 1% of all abortions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#Reasons_for_abortions).

How does that add up to 90%??

Bottom line; Tiller was a killer. You live by the "sword" you die by the "sword." I have no sympathy for money grubbing doctors acting like they are doing something good for people (women) but they are no better than a televagelist ripping off widows and orphans for their last cent!

You "Pro choice/death" people are such hypocrites - never seeing the forest because of the tree of your selfishness. Why don't you shed a tear for the children torn to shreds by this man's seared conscience.

PJ: I think you should try using spell check yourself, [groomer"s, improtant, assistanne, belive]. Perhaps if you spent less time venting your non-sense [you blow hard] you would do better.

Oh, and my "ambivalence" is due to a process you should try; thought and examination of reality.

I was hoping the comments here would be about the crime and the perpetrator; I should have known better. Yet another opportunity to discuss a polemical issue that drives a small group of (mostly) religious fanatics who believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth. Those of you who hold this belief are entitled to it, but you are expected to obey the laws of the society you live in, just like everyone else. Those of us who believe in a woman's right to choose motherhood are entitled to this belief, and the laws of our society allow us to do so, up to and including the right to abort. Incidentally, I am as pro-life as those of you who think abortion is a sin against innocent babies. I don't accept that the pro-life moniker only applies to those who are against abortion, especially as the body count of their victims continues to mount. Rest in Peace, Dr. Tiller.

Steve Huff's report is about a man who was gunned down in church, apparently for no other reason than that he provides a service which is legal in our society, which remains legal, and which will remain legal unless and until Roe vs. Wade is overturned. If there is an afterlife, then that man is now in the hands of the only one competent to pass judgement on him.

This act of violence has accomplished nothing and has not advanced the abortion debate one iota. The perpetrator will now face trial and human judgement in a court of law. One day, he too will meet his maker and divine justice will be meted out for him. In any case, this is what he believes and has the right to believe in a free society.

I have personally walked down the dark and lonely path that leads to this difficult decision and I am grateful that it happened at a time when I could do so safely and legally. Those who think that every woman who takes this road is anti-consequence or irresponsible simply have no idea what they are talking about.

Christina, would you care to cite a **source** for your slander?

As Ti-Grace Atkinson noted long ago, "If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

And as Dr. Tiller said, "Prenatal testing without prenatal choice is medical fraud."

It's little wonder that my native state of Kansas--which entered the union as "Bleeding Kansas," because of pro-slaver attacks on the anti-slavery majority--was the scene for this heinous crime. We're still in the middle of the continental 48, we're still a battleground. As for those of you who would support murder--murder in the sanctuary of a church--you have much in common with the psychotic murderer Quantrill, whose hatred killed hundreds of unarmed men, women and children.

I knew before clicking the comments that I would see comments like this, mostly by men no less.

Probably from middle America folks.

It's really shameful. If you guys are calling yourselves Christians, it's rather hypocritical and depressing for mankind. Of course, if you're of the perspective that some people (re: marginalized) just simply shouldn't have a choice, whether it be for the health of one's own body or for being able to express love for another person freely, then these hateful comments aren't at all surprising.

Some of you posters are wack jobs!! I hope you don't consider yourself any better than him, cause your not. To wish death on someone, because you don't believe in what they do. This man had a family, loved ones who will now no longer have him in their lives. FYI- alot of late term abortions are not unwanted babies, they are babies who have spinal bifida and other abnormal problems that make life full of excruciating pain, and surgery after surgery that will never truly correct their poor bodies. How many woman wake up one morning and happily think todays a great day to have a late term abortion, wake up, idiots. To think most of you are playing the Christian card. DISGUSTING!!

I love it when people post but won't give their real names.

Not sure why my website was down yesterday. You can link directly to it again. www.dr-tiller.com That way you get the updates and not just an archived version.

Good lord. You Republicans need to learn of the word hypocrisy. And this thing called a high school education. Oh, and xenophobia. Hey, wait, there are more here: dissent, logic, equality.

But I wouldn't really expect most of you 25K a year folk to really understand the bigger issues in life.