Man blames girlfriend's threesome for murder
| It seems rapper Syko Sam took his alter ego too seriously |
Police in Farmville, Virginia believe Richard Alden Samuel McCroskey III may have taken his fantasy life as a horrorcore rapper into the real world. He's charged with murdering four people at the home of Professor Debra S. Kelley, who teaches sociology and criminal justice at Longwood University in Virginia.
Police haven't named the dead, nor have they released any details on how they were killed. But they do seem fairly certain McCroskey's their man. He was arrested Saturday night at a Richmond airport, where he was trying to catch a flight back to his home in Castro Valley, California. If he was feeling any remorse or anxiety about the murders, he wasn't showing it. Officers found him asleep in the baggage claim...
| McCroskey liked to rap about mutilation and murder |
"You're not the first, just to let you know. I've killed many people and I kill them real slow. It's the best feeling, watching their last breath. Stabbing and stabbing till there's nothing left," he sings in "My Dark Side."
Yet McCroskey was already letting his hobby out in perverse ways before the murders. On his personal MySpace page, he's posted videos and pictures of him desecrating a Marine's grave with his fellow rappers, turning a cross and an American flag upside down.
On his Syko Sam page, he introduces himself by saying "I hate everything and I hate everyone." But he yearns for more commercial attention in describing himself:
"Syko Sam is a new musican in the underground and only been rapping for a few months now. As a new artist I feel that I already have some talent in this scene but will only get better as time will do its job. Syko Sam has been a fan of the Horrorcore/Wicked Shit genre since 1999 so therefor as a huge fan of the music I wanted to contribute to the genre to give to those fans of the genre as well as making it for myself to explore my creative side, thus Syko Sam being born."
See grave video below:
McCroskey has been charged with stealing the car of Niederbrock, who was Professor Kelley's former husband or mate. They were separated at the time of the murders, and speculation says the other people in the home were Kelley, the couple's daughter Emma, and possibly a friend who was visiting Emma. Yet the Farmville police won't be releasing IDs until Monday, after the state medical examiner's office announces its findings.
Police also haven't released the manner of death for the victims.
Detectives first learned of a problem when the friend's West Virginia mom called police, saying it had been days since she heard from her daughter, a teenager who was staying at Kelley's house. A man believed to be McCroskey answered the door and told cops the girls had gone to the movies. When the woman called again the next day, police returned to the home. That's when they found the bodies.
McCroskey was reportedly a friend of Emma's and they both shared a fondness for horrorcore.
UPDATE II: Prior to Richard McCroskey's arrival at the Virginia home of Professor Kelley, her daughter Emma was offering romantic overtures on McCCroskey's MySpace page.
"You are my one and only everything," she wrote days before his visit. The page has since been taken down.
It seems McCroskey was flying to Virginia to meet Emma and her best friend, who hasn't been named. Emma's parents then drove the three to the Strictly for the Wicked horrorcore festival in Michigan on September 12. Why a preacher would be taking his daughter to a celebration of death remains to be seen. But reporters say that when asked why he slaughtered four people in the Kelley home, McCroskey responded that "Jesus told me to do it."
| Emma Niederbrock and Melanie Wells |
They are pastor Mark Niederbrock, his wife Debra Kelley, their daughter Emma Niederbrock, and her best friend Melanie Wells.
After killing the family, McCroskey is accused of stealing the reverend's car. But he got into an accident at 4 a.m. Friday morning, and the vehicle had to be towed. At the time, police hadn't found the bodies, nor had the car been reported stolen.
But it's pretty clear all the kids involved had pretty depraved views of the world. McCroskey's sister said her brother was insecure and withdrawn, a high school drop out who'd been picked on and largely stayed in his room.
He'd met Emma at a horrorcore concert in Southern California, and the two engaged in lengthy teen love conversations over the phone and internet. In the days before McCroskey arrived in Virginia, Emma posted a note on his MySpace page expressing her excitement: "Babyyy you leave TONIGHT! My time with you is going to be the absolute best everrrr. I love you."
While Emma and McCroskey played lovers of darkness, Melanie Wells had an equally twisted sense of the world. On her MySpace page, she goes by the name Ms. Free Abortions, and and says she's into Green Day and LaVeyan Satanism.
The latter plays out in her poetry, which can be described as angry, bad, and ostentatiously violent. Get a load of this crap:
Remember when we fucked you said you'd always be mine
Now I've come to realize you were full of nothin but lies
Sometimes I wanna slit your fucking throat
Shove my dirty tampon in your mouth and watch you fucking choke
I'll put you back in your place I'll put a gun to your face
I'll kill your fucking whore
You'll be my beautiful disgrace I'll give you a kiss
While I sever your dick
After all you could never do much with it
Go ahead, call me fucking sick
All you ever did was put me through shit
As this blade goes deeper in it's place
I'll tell you, "I love you, you were my biggest mistake."
UPDATE IV: Farmsville police have officially identified the dead, and the names are who we suspected.
They are pastor Mark Niederbrock, his wife Debra Kelley, 53, their daughter Emma Niederbrock, 16, and her best friend Melanie Wells, 18. Police say all four were bludgeoned to death, bot won't reveal if they suffered further injuries.
And we're still awaiting a motive. Though detectives say there's mountains of evidence in the home, McCroskey isn't talking. It isn't clear why he'd want to kill Emma, who'd been gushing love notes to him prior to his visit. And it's especially unclear why a pastor and a professor would let their 16-year-old daughter date a 20-year-old old, particularly one with a fondness for the devil who liked to write songs about murder and maiming.
UPDATE V: Did jealousy spark McCroskey's rampage?
| Emma got a text from another man she met at the festival |
Emma thought McCroskey was invading her privacy, he told the cabbie. But in McCroskey's version, he claims he didn't want to get into it, so he waited till she went to sleep, then left the house.
We know in retrospect that's not true. So let's look at it in a different way:
McCroskey was a loner who was picked on and turned to horrorcore as a way of building an identity that seemed cool and edgy. It's a time-honored tradition among this personality type going back to goth. Don't fit in normally? Turn to yourself into a playground prince of darkness. While not particularly cool, it at least provides a peer group and a sense of being slightly bad-ass -- or at least unique -- in your own mind.
Then add his inexperience with women. Loners and guys who get picked on don't have a lot of luck with the ladies. Exhibit A: Here's a 20-year-old man with a 16-year-old girlfriend who lives on the other side of the country. He's obviously grabbing for anything that will grab back. And when you're that desperate, there's a tendency to be jealous and suffocating, because you fear it's never gonna come along again.
So you can imagine someone this insecure addressing a perceived threat, only have his more mature girlfriend bust his balls for acting possessive. And given his fetish for death, perhaps this was enough for him to impulsively act out on his fantasies.







There is no place in my world for this SICK SON-OF-A-BITCH. Off with his head.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 09:11:36 AMSo many many sicko people out there..to bad they dont find other sicko's and do their damage on them instead of innocent people, but then I suppose it would not be fun to them..for this is all about fun, amusement, enjoyment from a sick mind.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 09:33:56 AMThe difference between a sane person and a insane person is a fine line..
A sane person can have a thought like " I wish that person were dead" flitter thru there mind and immediately dismiss it for it was not a rational thought.
A insane person can have the same thought...but act on it, and go kill someone...because their mind does not process thoughts all the way thru and in the same manner as a sane person.
You cant always understand a insane persons actions..and I also do believe...there are people that are just downright evil..their mind so warped that there is no logi behind their behaviour except to them.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 09:39:39 AMWhy would a white person want to rap? He must have a very low IQ.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 03:12:41 PMDr. Kelley was a terrific teacher. She taught me sociology many years ago during my senior year. Nothing is too slow or painful for this bastard. The sooner he goes straight to hell, the better for us all.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 03:16:28 PMLet's get this straight.
The 16 year old daughter of a rural minister and a professor of criminal sociology in Virginia met a boy from California on MySpace, attended a "death rap" concert together in Michigan on a Saturday in September, had another 16 year old friend along from West Virginia, and the three of them then stayed at the Professor's house, where he killed all of them plus the father.
There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. However, can we just examine several issues here? 1) Why was this young woman allowed to meet people over the internet at 16? 2) Why was this woman allowed to accompany a 20 year old young man who she met on the internet out of state? 3) Why was the visitor from W. Virginia allowed to stay in Virginia for a week? Isn't she supposed to be in school?
There's so much wrong here I can't get my head around it.
Posted 09/20/2009 at 09:59:17 PMI agree, there is a lot wrong w/the picture. Dr. Kelley was my teacher through out my time @ Longwood. She is actually a very sweet woman and I'm so sorry to hear of this senseless act. God knows I wish different decisions were made. I must admitt, I kind of wondered what was going on w/Dr. Kelley. She would normally respond to my e-mails and calls; however, recently she did not (w/i the last 4 months).
Posted 09/21/2009 at 04:48:40 AMIf you look at his personal Myspace page, the recent comments from September 5th and 7th are from one of the victims, Emma ("Ragdoll"). They seem to have been in a relationship based on her writing things like:
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwe baby the next time you check your myspace, YOULL BE AT MY HOUSE!
mwahahah >:D i cant waiiiit to see you baby
its like 6:17AM, and ive been up since 4ish filled with uber amounts of excitment >.
i cant wait :D
i leave to pick you up in f i v e hourse gahh
U#@($QPERWODFSJO!!!!!!!!
my insides feel all squishy♥
i love you sooo SO much baby; forever and for always :]]
MWAHHHx10
Posted 09/21/2009 at 10:07:21 AMLeslie Figgler - Are you a hard core Prince Edward racist of years ago. Although, certaintly not a fan of rap music, I don't see why a white person have to be mentally deminished to rap.
Posted 09/21/2009 at 10:15:57 AMHonestly, we shouldn't even have to waste our time or money letting this dirtbag go to trial! He should just be hung and done with. He doesn't deserve to live. Those people didn't deserve to die and their families certainly don't deserve to go through this. This is probably just a sick attempt by him to promote his music!
Posted 09/21/2009 at 12:31:01 PMyou fucks dont no shit dont fucking judge him u no nothing fuck u
Posted 09/21/2009 at 01:10:40 PMInteresting and very detailed blog post about the victims, suspect, and timeline of events from SickTanick:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=99021159&blogId=510828718
A lot of the girls' myspace friends are making tribute graphics and videos. A sad situation for everyone.
Posted 09/21/2009 at 02:09:59 PMDavid Foster, we know that four people are dead and your little friend is guilty! How's that for KnoWING something? It would be much easier for you to pick a different person to defend, this one doesn't have a defense.
Posted 09/21/2009 at 03:39:33 PMFYI. Just want to make it clear that the "David Foster" that has posted on this site is NOT me! Don't want to be confused with him.
Posted 09/21/2009 at 05:12:28 PMWell, former students claim Prof. Kelley was quite a good sociology teacher. That may be (though I have a terribly low opinion of the 'science' of sociology).
But what is clear from this story is that Kelley wasn't much of a mom. However, being a sociology prof. she very likely let the education she has received get in the way of the proper way to parent. Very likely she thought her daughter was 'gender stereotyped' by society and therefore thought that if she let her daughter 'Do as Thou Wilt' (a satanist teaching, but common in American culture) the daughter could break the societal binds and grow into a mature, wise young woman.
Something though, is wrong, on many levels. Who but the most progressive parent would allow their 16 year old daughter (I'm the father of boys - I would not let a 16 year old son of mine bring home a girl with McCroskey's profile) to hook up with this creep in their own home? And Daddy the 'pastor', driving this bunch of nuts to 'wicked shit' concert? Daddy the pastor HAD TO know the young man his daughter was gaga over goes by the name "Syko Sam".
Posted 09/21/2009 at 08:53:17 PMHow many warning signs does a parent need?
Well I guess these 2, the Prof and the Rev both needed MAJOR warning signs. It is just unfortunate that they got the Ultimate Warning Sign... from Syko Sam.
Parents need to be more responsible with their children when it comes to social sites like myspace and facebook.
Everyday you hear of some type of criminal action involving these sites. Not only that they are playgrounds for pedophile's, if your going to allow your children to be on one of these social networks, you have to monitor them.
And what kind of parent allows their 16 year old to meet up with people they meet on the internet? Absolutely crazy.
Posted 09/22/2009 at 01:52:03 AMKPRyan- as a "sociologist," I strongly condemned the role that the parents played in their own demise (see above). In fact, I'm scratching my head trying to understand how someone with sociological training could have ignored everything theory and research tells us! A sociologist with a specialty in criminality no less! In fact, I read somewhere that she had taken an "educational semester" - which usually means they are conducting research for a book or research article. Maybe she thought of this "horrorcore scene" as an avenue to research. That said, it wouldn't matter if I was studying clowns who work in the circus, I would never involve my children in my research so this makes absolutely no sense.
Please don't disregard sociology. You could never count the ways in which our research provides benefits to you and your family's lives.
Posted 09/22/2009 at 01:56:34 AMCan only speculate as to what happened. Something had to have happened for the guy to lose it and beat 4 people to death! And how does one beat 4 people when they are alone in that endeavor. Even 3 of them girls, don't you think they would have fought him? So, did he tie them up? How did he control 3 while beating the fourth?
Maybe Emma found out that the guy really was syk (sic) and told him that she was through with him. That would be enough to set off a loner who thought he had finally found love only to be turned away and ridiculed once more.
Disgusted, what would you have done if you were in this scenario? Would you have been able to calm him down, talk him down, stop him from doing this?
Posted 09/22/2009 at 03:19:18 PMBelow is the text of the abstract of Dr. Kelley's dissertation, titled: "FAMILY VICTIMIZATION: AN APPLICATION OF LIFESTYLE AND ROUTINE ACTIVITY THEORY (HOMICIDE)"
What she basically argued, examined, and found was that being a victim of a crime within a family unit is completely different than being a victim of a random crime. Moreover, the likelihood of being killed by someone in your family is subject to different factors than the likelihood of being killed by a stranger. What's interesting is that she frames her research question using a model of theory that argues that lifestyle choices affect the likelihood of being victimized (ie: murdered). Gee, ya think?
"Research presented within this thesis summarizes the factors associated with family victimization and family homicide. Emphasis is placed on assessing the utility of hypotheses derived from the routine activity and lifestyle theories of criminal victimization to explain the similarities and differences between family violence and criminal violence. Causal models are tested using data from the 1985 National Family Violence Survey for marital violence and the 1978 Zahn and Reidel Homicide in Eight American Cities for family homicide.
Victimization is not distributed randomly across space and time. From the theoretical framework of opportunity models, the components of an individual's lifestyle and the structure of routine activities influence both the likelihood and nature of victimization. The assumptions of this model implicitly consider the relationship of the victim and offender as crucial factors in hypotheses testing. This thesis explores the extent to which patterns of family victimization coincide and diverge from both patterns of victimization in the general population and patterns of stranger victimization.
Logistic regression techniques are used to examine sociodemographic variables, family life variables, social integration factors, offense activity and deviant lifestyle for their effects on marital violence and family homicide. Results of the analyses suggest that among the general population and a sample of homicide victims, hypotheses derived from routine activity and lifestyle theory are generally supported concerning marital victimization and family homicide. Significant differences do emerge when separate analyses are conducted within race and gender specific subgroups for marital violence.
Posted 09/22/2009 at 09:42:17 PMThanks for this story. Well-written with thorough details and links. This is the kind of thing we are used to here at TCR. Keep up this kind of writing!
I would not have known about this tragic incident but for reading it here.
Posted 09/23/2009 at 02:03:10 PMPerhaps her parents should not have gone to such great lengths to indulge her with trips to concerts and meeting online friends, but maybe they feared they'd lose her if they did not. Maybe they were trying to be incredibly understanding parents in an effort to prevent her from becoming a run away and then they'd never know what she was up to or who she was with.
Where the hell is steve???????????
Posted 09/23/2009 at 03:36:52 PMVery interesting inside information on these sick people
http://sammccrosky.blogspot.com/2009/09/sam-mccrosky-aka-syko-sam-aka-lil-demon.html
Posted 09/24/2009 at 06:50:28 PMSounds to me by judging from this blog post...
Posted 09/26/2009 at 02:03:23 AMhttp://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=99021159&blogId=510828718
...that SickTanick posted that it may have been a topic of discussion before or something. Why on earth would you automatically that syko sam may have killed 4 people if they claim he was such a good person. Think about it, he claims he got a phone call from someone saying that sam called and said he killed them all, and he automatically assumes its true, and starts telling family members of the deceased of the tragedy. Who on earth takes it upon himself (record label or no record label) to call and tell a parent thier kid was murdered. Something indeed smells fishy with this entire situation.
Possible motive.
"The suspect in the killings of four people in Farmville told a cab driver hours before the victims' bodies were found that he had confronted his girlfriend after finding a text message from another man on her phone.
Curtis Gibson of Access Taxi in Charlottesville recalled the roughly hourlong conversation he had with the foul-smelling suspect, Richard Samuel Alden McCroskey III, on the morning of Sept. 18. Gibson drove McCroskey from a Huddle House restaurant in Farmville to Richmond International Airport.
During the cab ride, McCroskey told Gibson that his girlfriend got angry when he confronted her about the message and accused him of invading her privacy. The 20-year-old Californian told Gibson he didn't want to argue with his girlfriend, 16-year-old Emma Niederbrock, so he waited for her to go to sleep early that morning or the night before and then he left the house."
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/local/crime/article/FARM26_20090925-222606/295597/
Posted 09/27/2009 at 12:31:17 PMlindsey said:
"Honestly, we shouldn't even have to waste our time or money letting this dirtbag go to trial! He should just be hung and done with. He doesn't deserve to live."
Lindsey, do you truly believe a person should not get their constitutional right to a fair trial? Do you want a government so strong that it can convict a person without due process? The next person given this treatment could be you...
Posted 09/27/2009 at 06:30:08 PMdavid foster said:
"you fucks dont no shit dont fucking judge him u no nothing fuck u"
Man, that's poetry...maybe Jay-Z could include it on his next album.
Posted 09/27/2009 at 06:39:12 PMThis is a strange situation; however, I am sure the parents were doing what they thought best and may have even been trying to reach the boy. As a Pastor, the father probably had the Christian compassion that drove him to accept others and their differences as Christ taught. Don't rush to judge other people because you can NEVER understand exactly what influences, motivations, and concerns they were operating under.
That being said, evil and disfunctional people should not be allowed to wander the world among innocent and potential victims. Once a danger has been identified it needs to be addressed.
Posted 09/27/2009 at 10:35:18 PMlester figgler.... you unintelligent piece of retarded shit. this entire article is about some sick kid that went way overboard, and your first thought on it is"why would a white person rap" now get this assholes, Psychopathic records is an entire record label made up of white rappers. You should do your research before you make yourself sound even more stupid than you already do. The, as you would put it, "low IQ of these rappers have made a legacy and a foot print in time that you can never understand you fucking retard. stick to the topic of the article if your gonna waste peoples time by commenting. MUCH CLOWN LOVE MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!!
Posted 09/28/2009 at 09:10:14 AMThis is a much more complex case than what I first thought..so sad to think that the relationship of a 16 year old could lead to such a tragic ending.
Posted 09/28/2009 at 04:43:35 PMI, too, wonder why white kids want to be involved with a black social thing like rap? My guess is that they have no culture of their own to identify with, no sense of doing anything successfully, no sense of personal achievement. It is an absence of having anything useful to do, an absence of constructive ambition. I listened to ICP, for example, and came away with the thought that these guys are just useless lumps with nothing to do. They really don't have anything to say - they're a cultural vacuum. If there were only a few kids like this it would be funny but people actually buy their recordings and pay to see their concerts. An amazing waste of time.
Most rap lyrics are nothing but self-indulgent whining. With rare exceptions, what I have heard is complaining about something, anything, everything. Nothing positive, nothing that says the person can see a future for themselves other than some hand-wringing about how the rapper will one day overcome some horrible life-condition imposed on them by someone else. Black rappers bitch about white culture (or just whites, period), I suppose, because it is easier to think their lack of ambition or achievement is somebody else's fault. Now they've got a pile of white kids whining and it is just as genuinely pathetic - and I don't mean that as an insult but as an observation. The lyrics are so un-manly, so weak and saturated with failure that I cannot imagine why anyone would spend one moment of their life listening to them.
These rapper-types need to go pick up litter or muck out a horse stall or split firewood or sweep the sidewalk - ANYTHING that involves doing something useful. Maybe if they could experience doing something constructive they would stop blubbering about the unfairness and tragedy of life. Seriously: Can you imagine any of these sissies working on a farm or a construction site?
When it comes down to it, rap is the "music" of the blubbering crybaby crowd. Spending time living in their world via listening to their incessant complaining is a pointless waste of time. When rap fans like Ryan can only muster some vulgar squealing about how "stupid" people don't understand rap, it's time to turn off their cable service and kick their ass out into the world.
My advise to anyone listening to rap is this: Turn it off, go outside and get started on a life.
Alternatively, you could get a job working for the government. That's the true future of all "rappers": A dead-end where they can live their dead-end dream. It's like prison...but with better food and sunscreen.
Posted 09/29/2009 at 08:38:25 AMNYOB....aaaahhhhh....another ignorant soul. How much of ICP have you actually listened to. I bet you haven't listened to enough. Can you say that you've listened to 3 songs, how bout 4. Well, they have over 25 albums. Still think you've heard enough to judge anything. How about the song "Lets go all the way" off of ICP's Bizzar album. That entire song is about white people, black people, any color, race, religion all just getting along being brothers to one another. How about the fact that they have 6 albums titled the "joker cards" all of which are part of the "Dark Carnival" which just so happens to be God and heaven that they're refering to. You have to actually listen to understand. You my friend appear to be a bit of a racist. Making a deal out of white kids not having identity. How about white kids having a talent that usually falls into the lap of black people. Just like white people playing basketball, they shouldnt do that right? I dare you to listen to the words of that song previously mentioned and tell me that you still hear nothing positive. If you are honest....you wont be able to.
Posted 09/29/2009 at 08:51:35 PMMUCH CLOWN LOVE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
Also, you tell ICP and they're millions of dollars how much of a dead end thing they're doing right now. I think it might be time for them to stop....I mean....they've only been making a living doing this for about 20 years now.
Posted 09/29/2009 at 08:53:35 PMMCLMF!!!!
one more.....Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J of ICP both worked and a toxic waste plant before they got into rapping. So there you have it. I can imagine them doing something along those lines. MMFCLMF!!!
Posted 09/29/2009 at 09:02:28 PMAll I ask is that you keep an open mind before judging something you obviously know nothing about. MCL!!!
Ryan, you have contributed very little to the conversation in this thread other than calling peeps POS or ignorant souls, et al. ICP has been linked to many who have comitted the act of murder against another human being. Steve Huff (originally the author of this section) has written many times in defense of ICP and their followers.
Perhaps you should keep an open mind towards people that don't share your love of ICP. 25 Albums... yep, that takes some talent, doesn't it? Now be a good little juggalo and mosey on, or come up with something pertinent to discuss regarding this crime.
Posted 10/02/2009 at 11:47:07 AMin case you haven't been reading the threads, most of them dont relate directly to the article. most of them are responses to what other people posted on here as well. just like you did. and do me a favor and mosey on over to another website that states that ICP have been directly linked to other suicides and murders cause I would love to see which side of your ass your pulling that out of.
Posted 10/03/2009 at 04:58:01 PMryan, i have already stated that steve huff has written about cases involving those that listen to and live the icp lifestyle. he has never once blamed icp for leading to or contributing to murders. he has actually defended it quite fervently.
but, be realistic...this guy was into the horrorcore crap that glamourized murder and mahem through his music. to me that's twisted mentally. as far as i know, no one from icp has murdered people in cold blood because of any reason, let alone that some girl hurt one's little feelings. i'm just saying the music didn't play a part in the murders, but the murderer sure played a part in generating and releasing songs of this genre which was an outward sign of his sick, sick mind. to me, the music that glamourizes murder is shit. i don't care who sings it, who wrote it and who furthers it's acceptance by buying into it, it's still shit.
Posted 10/06/2009 at 08:47:58 AMI originally comment on this page becuase NYOB up there had said something about why would a white person want to be a part of rap. A little racist I think, dont you? I'm just saying that music doesnt not influence people to murder. Unless you are fucked in the head from the start. There are a million juggalos out there that listen to ICP and stuff all the time, but yet there are not a million juggalos standing trial for murder. If this kid were a country singer would anyone have anything to say about the music? MCL!!! :)
Posted 10/07/2009 at 09:12:03 AMDefinetly not the place for a debate on the merits of rap music. Too much about horrorcore, not enough about the facts of the matter at hand is the problem here.The case is extremely brutal and unusual.Respect the victims and stop insulting one another.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 07:09:41 PMThe world needs a Dexter Morgan to take out monsters like this prick.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 02:22:45 AMAll you Jugalos are faggots. You should consider dying in a fire. ICP are a couple of no-talent hacks.
Posted 12/06/2009 at 05:33:56 PMMUCH CLOWN HATE YOU FUCKING LOSERS.
ryan taylor i couldnt have said it betta myself my ninja u were on point wit everythin. thats jus a biest opinion of a person who is extremly uninformed. i dont care wat ne1 says ICP they have taken nothin nd made it into somethin they were poor white kids who originated in Delray, Michigan jus 2 average kids who beat the odds nd became some one nd made somethin out of their lives. anotha song thats also positive by ICP is the much loved song "homies" off the album, Wraith: Shangri-La which came out in 2002. it talks about how our FAMILY that has been created nd grown ova the years is a bond nobody wit a cloised mind like "jadensmokes", or "juggalo killer".,.oo deres an original one. could eva comprehend its like a big tidal wave..WHOOSHHHH! right ova ya dumbass heads. its also talks about acceptence dat we have for each otha nd if u dnt like us..DATS NOT OUR PROBLEM U CAN THINK WAT U WANT WE HAVE OUR OWN FLAVOR, OUR OWN RECIPE TO BRING TO DA TABLE ND DATS WAT REALLY DOWN. it also expresses dat ya were different but dats wat makes us unique nd special were not all about bein negative or whinin bout stupid shit. they rap bout their experiences or what theyd like to happen or the problems of the world. they also have their songs of them jus wilin out nd havin a good time nd bein creative wit it. their uniqueness is wat sets them apart from the rest nd dats wat us juggalos nd juggalettes ninjas nd ninjettes love. different..u seam like u tend to go by the book "jadensmokes" that must be why ur not graspin the simple concept ud see if u opened ur eyes. every1 has their opinions some im givin mine in defense of wat i believe nd wat my style ND MILLIONS OF OTHA PEOPLES UNIQUE STRYLES ARE, so before you go round judgin people learn ur facts nd do ya homework nigga cuz u jus made urself look mad stupid, dats wat i call saltedd.
Posted 12/17/2009 at 02:29:25 AMMMFWCL!! WHOOP WHOOP!!
dat goes out 2 u 2 NYOB i had forgotten 2 mention ur name
Posted 12/17/2009 at 02:32:41 AMSamwitch,
I'm usually not one who will sit there and nitpick someone elses grammar, as mine is not always the best. But for the love of God, learn how to spell.
I swear I got like two sentences into your little tirade and had to stop reading it. It was actually starting to hurt my head. Please, I know you must be young, but seriously, you don't come off as a credible person with grammar as horrible as yours.
Now, back on the subject. I read in an article somewhere that her parents, despite their backgrounds, believes, and education, let her do what she did because they were afraid if they didn't allow it she would rebel and they would never see her again. Now as a parent to a 4 year old, I can't say as I blame them. They didn't want to lose her to something worse. But there are just some things I wouldn't let a 16 year old child do. Dying her hair pink? Sure, not too bad. Piercing her lip, belly button, tongue, nose? Eh, a little extreme but could be worse. Gettin into an internet and/or non-internet relationship with a 20 year old man? Hell no. Going to a horrorcore rap concert? Not in this lifetime.
But, whatever their reasons, one things is for sure, 4 innocent people are dead at the hands of a very very sick person. They didn't want to lose her so they let her have free will to do and get into what she wanted. In the end, they lost her, their families lost them, and another mother and father and family lost their daughter.
My prayers and love go out to the families and friends. However, I have no love for this twisted freak.
Posted 12/17/2009 at 03:06:43 AMCloud General,
Posted 12/17/2009 at 04:33:19 AMYour depth of though is appreciated ; however you are neglecting that the topics are to dicuss ones own opinion. Not yours
Cloud General, This asshole above my comment BAM is not me. His letters in his statement are to bold. Nice try ASSHOLE. If I am going to mention anything here I will bring up M&M, he always has something to say. Do everyone a favor and piss up a rope.
Posted 12/22/2009 at 12:22:35 AMHmmm
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