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Michael Brewer may have been set ablaze in as beef over a bike
Something went very wrong for 15-year-old Michael Brewer on Sunday. Relatives say he stopped another kid from stealing his father's bike, but he was scared enough by the incident that he refused to attend classes at his Deerfield Beach, Florida middle school on Monday.
Instead, he went to an apartment complex to visit a friend. As he was sitting by the pool, someone came up and doused him with a flammable liquid, then set him ablaze. A neighbor heard the screams and put out the fire with an extinguisher. Michael survived, but he's expected to be hospitalized for five months with massive burns over his torso, arms, and face.
One kid was arrested Sunday over the bike incident. Three more juveniles are in custody today.
UPDATE: The reason Michael Brewer was set ablaze was a senseless as the crime itself: He hadn't paid up on a video game he bought.
According to Sergeant Steve Feeley of the Broward County Sheriff's Office, here's how it went down:
Michael owed 15-year-old Matthew Bent $40 for a video game, but hadn't paid up. So on Sunday, Bent tried to steal Michael's dad's bike as compensation. Micheal thwarted the theft, and his family called the cops. Bent was arrested.
But he was sent home after a brief stay in juvie. Michael skipped school Monday, fearing payback. Bent didn't go to school either.
Monday afternoon, Michael went over to the Lime Street Apartments to visit a friend. Bent just happened to be there as well. Michael was sitting by the pool when he was surrounded by five boys: Bent, Denver Colorado Jarvis, 15; his brother Jeremy Jarvis, 13; Steven Shelton, 15; and Jesus Mendez, 15.
They grabbed a bottle of rubbing alcohol they found and surrounded Michael. Bent called him a rat. Michael tried to leave but couldn't. Bent ordered the rubbing alcohol poured on Michael. Denver Jarvis doused him with the fluid, then Mendez set him on fire.
There are differing accounts of what happened after that. Some say a neighbor subdued the flames with a fire extinguishers. Others say Michael ran to the pool and jumped into the water. Either way, he was helicoptered to a Miami hospital, where he's suffering from burns over 80 percent of his body. ![]()
Michael with his friend Nikki and his Malissa
At first the boys showed scant regret. "A couple of them last night were laughing about it," Feeley said. But they're beginning to realize laughter will be more spare in the days to come. All five are currently being held in juvenile jail. And some -- if not all -- are almost certain to be tried as adults.
See new MySpace page set up for Michael.
UPDATE II: Michael is on a ventilator at a Miami hospital, and his burns remain life-threatening.
That's the word from Dr.Nicholas Namias, head of the burn unit at Jackson Memorial Hospital. He says Michael suffered burns over 65 percent of his body. While his face is in fairly good shape, doctors still don't know how much of his arms, legs and fingers he'll be able to use down the road.
"The body was just not intended to be set on fire," Namias told WPLG-TV in a moment of serious understatement.
Due to the extensive burning, Michael remains a risk for infection. Doctors are also expecting organ failures. And because so much of his body was burned, they believe it will be hard to conduct skin grafts to repair damaged areas, since grafting best succeeds when the patient's own skin is used.
"We need skin to replace the burned skin, and despite the modern technologies, there's no good replacement for your own skin," Namias said. "I would say that his young age goes in his favor, but the size of the burn, the depth of the burn, and the fact that he probably inhaled some smoke during his burn is against him."
UPDATE III: Transcripts from a woman's 911 call, and a shameless lawyer pleads for Jeremy Jarvis' release.![]()
Matthew Bent ordered his friends to pour rubbing alcohol on Michael and set him on fire
"A little boy just caught on fire and he jumped inside of the swimming pool," a female caller tells 911. Screams are then heard in the background as the woman tries to comfort Michael. "You're going to be OK, sweetheart."
The woman asks Michael what happened to him. "Somebody poured stuff on me," he says.
Then she returns to talk to dispatch: "There's fire. There's fire on the grass. He doesn't know who threw what on him."
The paramedics can be heard arriving as the woman tells them what happened. "There was a ball of fire by the entrance, and he was lit. He just ran and ran inside the pool. He was on fire."
In related news, Steve Melnick, the lawyer for 13-year-old Jeremy Jarvis, is pleading for his release. In a bold step of lawyerly shamelessness, he says his client has been traumatized by the attack, and needs to be at home with his family.
"He is a 13-year-old child," Melnick says. "I don't know of his involvement in this case, but from reading just the police reports, it appears that his involvement was on the periphery and wasn't directly involved in this horrible attack on Michael Brewer. And if so, he needs to maybe be home with his parents and begin counseling and therapy because he witnessed a horrible attack."
Melnick contends the kid has been crying non-stop since his arrest.
What he neglects to mention is that Jarvis is traumatized by an attack he helped cause. And despite his supposed regret, deputies say the only boy to show remorse after the incident was Jesus Mendez, the kid who actually lit Michael aflame. The rest -- including Jarvis -- were heard laughing about the assault after their arrests.
UPDATE IV: Michael undergoes what will be the first of his many surgeries.
He underwent surgery using skin grafts from cadavers to temporarily cover the burns. In normal cases, the skin would have been taken from Michael's own body as the preferred method, but it appears he doesn't have enough good skin left to accomplish this.
He remains sedated and in critical condition, but he can respond by squeezing a hand and moving his eyes.
UPDATE V: 13-year-old Jeremy Jarvis has been ruled too young to try as an adult.
Prosecutors say state statutes don't allow them to try him as an adult, since he isn't charged with a capital crime or a life felony. All five teens are charged with aggravated battery. Jesus Mendez, who lit the fire, has also been charged with attempted murder.
Meanwhile, doctors say Michael is making significant improvement. He's thus far been able to avoid the infections common in burning cases.
UPDATE VI: Many of you have blamed the parents of the boys who attacked Michael. You were right. This is a parade of losers, scumbags, and career criminals.
According to an excellent story in the Miami Herald, their list of crimes include child neglect, drunk driving, assault and battery, burglary, fleeing police, drug possession and dealing. Take Dennis Bent, the piece of work who spawned ringleader Matthew Bent.
In 1993, he and two other men broke into the Boca Raton home of Andrew McLeary. Bent claimed McLeary owed him money, so they took valuables and threatened to kill him. Police say Bent stabbed him multiple times with a scissors in the stomach, face and legs.
All three attackers confessed to the crime, but for some reason the most serious charges were dropped. Bent pleaded guilty to just burglary and battery, and ended up doing two years probation. For stabbing a guy multiple times.
In subsequent years, Bent was hit with additional possession and battery charges. He now has 7 kids with his wife of 26 years. But had he been properly sentenced in the original stabbing case, there's a good chance Matthew Bent wouldn't have even been born.
Then there's the parents of the Jarvis brothers, Jeremy and Denver III, who've apparently suffered years of child abuse. Police have been called to their home more than 20 times over fights involving their father, Denver Jr., and their mother Sherry. The state's also yanked the kids from the house in the past over abuse and neglect.
Last year, Sherry claimed that her husband choked her. A month later, they were forced to undergo parenting classes after their kids continually skipped school.
Patricia Hollis, the mother of 15-year-old Steven Shelton, isn't much better. Last year, she led police on a high speed chase with another 10-year-old son in the car. She ran red lights, blew through stop signs, and bolted the wrong way down one-way streets, all while reaching speeds of up to 100 mph. But all she got was 50 hours of community service and an order to get random drug testing. Florida, it seems we have a problem with your judicial system.
And this was the sentence give to a woman who had already been arrested nine times before. She's been previously hit with charges for resisting arrest, child abuse, fraud, impersonation and child cruelty, among others.
Steven Shelton Sr. is even worse, having been arrested a dozen times. He's been convicted of drug dealing, resisting arrest, and battery. He's also been hit with contempt for failing to pay a measly $63 a week in child support.
Weirdly enough, the most empathetic of the bunch is 15-year-old Jose Mendez, the kid who lit Michael on fire. Sheriff's deputies say he was the only one to show remorse after the crime.
He was reportedly going through a troubled patch at the time of the incident. His parents were divorcing, and dad was no longer around. Mendez's mom moved to a better neighborhood to get him away from the rotten kids, but that obviously didn't work.
Still, the boy's problems can't all be pinned on his parents' split. Mom and Dad appear to have no criminal records, but Jose has a 2007 arrest for battery as well.
See latest update: Michael Brewer, Set On Fire Over $40 Video Game, Remains in Critical Condition.






OMG! Horrible!
Posted 10/13/2009 at 04:41:32 PMUmmm, dude should have jumped in the pool!
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:42:14 PMThis makes me sad to see such a horrible thing happening here in america. If this was a muslim culutre I could understand. America I weep for our future when children set other children on fire. The Horror.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:46:49 PMOh yes since America is a "CHRISTIAN" culture it shouldn't happen here. Yeah, thanks Paul. Oh and by the way, wake up. That guy who burned him SURELY was a muslim, since we all know ALL muslims are evil and ALL christians are good. It sure is a crying shame aint it?
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:52:07 PMThese little bastards need to be charged as adults... and do adult time.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:52:47 PMyea... should have jumped in the pool... 2nd degree burns over 80% of his body? he had to wait for a neighbor to GET a fire extinguisher and THEN put out the blaze? Jesus. Maybe they tied him down first or something. Anyway the kids that did it deserve to die. they are going to go to jail, suck up resources, then when they get out, cause more problems. And If I was that kid I'd dedicate the rest of my life to revenge... that kind of pain the requires induced coma is enough to turn somebody evil.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:54:52 PMlol @ Paul. Agreed that muslims are worse but obviously you're retarded. Christians are historically just as bad.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:55:59 PMThis is why we should start using euthanasia more often in this country. These kids are way too sick to be left on this planet with the rest of the world.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:15:21 PMheh such a stupid kid
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:18:25 PMSo what if Christians are historically as bad. They AREN'T anymore because they evolved socially out of the middle ages. Muslim countries have not.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:22:28 PMI dont want to sound indfferent but its almost like kids get away with too much and blame is put on ppl who the law restricts from doing anything anyway.
"yea... should have jumped in the pool" Na, Chlorine would react and cause irritation over the body not to mention poisining, dont forge tthe body is pourous... skin absorbs water.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:29:00 PMI hope these boys have to see the results of there actions, then are put away for the horrible crime they have commited.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:32:06 PM"So what if Christians are historically as bad. They AREN'T anymore because they evolved socially out of the middle ages. Muslim countries have not."
Are you taking the piss? You're ethnically cleansing Iraq at the moment.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:34:13 PM@Paul, @GW - You're retarded. Being Christian or Muslim has absolutely no impact on whether or not people are evil. The only thing that it might change is people's views of women. Also, did you really type, "not evolved out of the middle ages"? Really? REALLY? No further questions.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:38:37 PMlol at all you morons for making a story about a kid getting set on fire for a bike about christianity and islam.
i'm sure the kid who set him on fire knows what it feels like to be burned. that he was able to do this to another kid... try him as an adult and lock him up as an adult.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:38:48 PMHow is he getting set on fire related to the previous incident of someone stealing his bike? How are they related? Also, why didn't he just jump in the pool?
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:51:29 PMWhat an ugly world
Posted 10/13/2009 at 06:57:47 PM@funwithpi
@Paul is retarded
Look up "retarded" in the dictionary and learn to use the word properly. Calling someone "retarded" is just as profane as calling someone "gay". Have some respect for the people who suffer the affliction of being mentally disabled and grow up.
@Anon
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:02:42 PMDid you read "Jack"'s post?
If you did, then you wouldn't have any reason to ask your last question.
Well there are Muslims in America. Maybe it was one of them.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:06:20 PMReally everyone? Evil? Kill them? What makes me sad is that no one tries to see or understand the human nature in this, because if you did we'd all be implicated and we'd have to come up with a much more complex solution than "f-in kill these kids!" Not understanding a problem just contributes to it.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:24:25 PMquit the religious argument crap
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:29:58 PMPaul's comment was ignorant and offensive.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:30:35 PMugly world indeed...
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:35:53 PMWow, this world is terrifying.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 07:40:59 PMWater doesn't put out all fires people!!! When this kid heals, I hope he retaliates. Eye for an eye...from the middle ages! And I'm christian, racists!
Posted 10/13/2009 at 08:12:28 PMWell, where do you think these kids are learning this horrible stuff...on video games and violent movies that exploit killing. But hey, you can't ridicule the profitable rights of free-enterprise can you!
Posted 10/13/2009 at 08:48:30 PMAnd he couldn't jump in the pool for some reason?
Posted 10/13/2009 at 08:56:01 PMmorgan, your comment i echo. it should be the only one anybody bothers to read or comprehend.
your comment is the exact type of logic and reason that i started reading this site. too bad it's gone to the "kill and be justified" crowd.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:07:16 PMI go to school with all of them. The Jarvis kids are bad and were always bein picked up by the deputy. Mike had to jump over a fence to get to the pool you morons and for people who think this is funny he almost dies and there is still a chance he might if he get a infection.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:30:25 PMThose kids will never pay enough for what they did. They should all be punished much worse than they were. disgusting wastes of life. and over a bike... I also heard that they laughed when they were arrested.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:42:28 PMThis wasnt from video games or this other shit.. This is how it is down here. When money is involved anything can happen
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:44:32 PMMike didnt deserve it at all and the jarvis kids belong away from other students. THEY ARE BAD PEOPLE!
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:51:15 PM4th post starks a religious debate, this is faster than some Mac vs PC comments.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 10:01:03 PMWwhat can we in the local community do to help this boy and his family?
Posted 10/13/2009 at 10:14:06 PMAre you guys kidding me? all religion is wrong, plain and simple, (well the mainstream crap i mean)
Posted 10/13/2009 at 11:15:53 PMwake the F up, religion is a form of control, and self preservation is their priority. they lie to you sheeple, smarten up
Religion is bullshit.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 11:24:42 PMAfter reading some of the absurd, borderline insane, insights of individuals commenting on this gruesome account, I have only one thing to ask: How can you function with such skewed visions of reality?
Posted 10/13/2009 at 11:31:32 PMFor those of you atheists, racists, or religious people, every person is entitled to their own opinion. You don't have to agree with it, by ANY means, but you don't have to be the insulting prick either. Again, simple human morality should contain the respect of human beings to have their own religious beliefs, or non-religious beliefs.
What happened to this kid is wrong on every level. He (from my understanding) did not provoke it in any way. The perpetrators should be punished severely for what they did.
This article should have NEVER been turned into a religious debate.
Religion has nothing to do with it.
End of story.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 11:43:23 PMSay a prayer that he survives this. As for the offenders,
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:01:28 AMno remorse?? try them as adults and see if they have anything to smile about.
Actually, the kid did do something to provoke it. He reneged on a loan, and he snitched.
Religion is bullshit. Fairy tales for adults.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:05:45 AMThis is terrible, I felt sick to my stomach reading this. How are 13 year old kids capable of this? Why do so many people hate each other, just look at these posts everybody's like hey those kids were muslims only muslims do bad things and no they were christians only christians do bad things. Maybe those kids parents all fed them meth when they were babies or something.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:22:25 AMAnd cause he didn't pay up and snitched they had to burn him up?
Surely there had to be another way to get the money or the game back. But who cares these little mafiosos are getting their violent queues from us "debaters". Violence exists. Lets deal with it. You want to be hardcore...you die hardcore. Death Race anyone?
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:30:28 AMSounds like these kids need some kind of serious therapy not to mention punishment.
@hcharger
Thats a poor excuse. Millions of people play violent video games, I myself am one of them, however I don't feel the need to douse someone with petrol and set them alight or any of the other terrible things that people blame on games.
@Brent
Christianity isn't a race it's a religion.
@notamoron & Joe Atheist
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:42:33 AMRight on.
that is all they should have done in the first place. Pay up, return the game or get an a$$ kicking.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:47:30 AMSomeone referred to christianity as a race?
AHAHHAHAHAHA. Oh boy.
As for my previous comment, of course what little provocation there may have been ABSOLUTELY does not require such HORRIFIC retribution. I was just being an idiot.
In truth, this story is disgusting, and unfortunately, not isolated, as this shit goes on everywhere, all the time. Horrible.
I still stand on my comments regarding religion. It's complete bullshit at best and really harmful at worst.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:07:16 AMThis was an extremely isolated hanus crime. It happened and we now have a young adolescent in a burn hospital for 5 months suffering the worst pain anyone could ever experience. All of this because of a $40 debt Michael Brewer owed to one of the other juveniles then one of the juveniles steals the fathers bike and then Brewer reports stolen bike to police. Those five juveniles will be put before a judge and jury when their day comes and, yes, they should be tried as adults because of the hanus nature of their crime. Add to that the 2 of them who were laughing at what they did.
I would say these 5 juvies in in deep and will probably not see the light of day again.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:17:20 AMJoe the Atheist, Achnot...
...and the rest of you moon-bats bringing up politics or religion as some holistic cause of this tragic event-
I have yet to see a rational thought from any of you.
This has NOTHING to do with religion. AT ALL.
This has nothing to do with a buzzword "ethnic cleansing" you seem to idiotically ascertain to be occurring in Iraq. AT ALL. WTF did that come from?
You don't come across as having "edgy" wit or as intelligent. AT ALL.
This is about five monsters who tortured a young kid over $40 dollars. There are bad apples in every bunch. Unfortunately, a general lack of decency and upbringing has spoiled too many apples today. Not religion.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:45:01 AMI think they should kill those boys' dogs for punishment. That's what Jesus would do.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:03:56 AMI'm completely aware that religion plays no part in this. I never once said that. Learn to read you condescending twit.
Robert, it's spelled heinous, not hanus. And it's not an isolated incident, events of this nature happen all the time, all over the world. Get out of your middle american bubble and you'll see.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:18:04 AMIs it really so surprising this happened? Honestly? I am not saying the burned boy deserved it, nor am I saying the kids who burned him had a good idea, but society is falling apart because kids are no longer shown how to deal with these situations. Then people act surprised when they get creative?? Parents feel that sheltering their families is a good thing. It isn't. Other parents feel that no guidance is a good way to prepare children for the adult world thinking "they will figure it out eventually." That isn't good either. Should the parents of these children also be held responsible for this event? Now that might actually change how people think and somewhere, some parent might make different and better choices on how to raise their child. We need more responsibility for what happens, and we shouldn't have to make laws to see it happen.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:21:14 AMHe did jump in the pool. This hit a lil too close to home for me. I have been home schooling my children here in Deerfield Beach for last two years because of the bad influences out there now days. I'm glad that I have now. My daughter is the same age as theses young boys and would have been in classes with them. I have seen these boys in my neighborhood on several occasions.
It scares me to think that it could have easily been on of my kids they done this to. My children have been raised to let an adult know if someone is doing something wrong. The Bent kid had tried to steal Michael's fathers custom bike so he called the police. He done nothing wrong.
It is sad to see that some parents raise their children to know right from wrong and to be good people, while others teach their children the exact opposite. I feel sorry for the boys that have done this. What kind of life will they have now?
Posted 10/14/2009 at 05:07:19 AMgood lord april, you teach your kids at home? i hope you have someone come in to teach them proper grammar!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:31:36 AMi.e. ...kids they done this to. the proper tense would be did not done. He done nothing wrong, should be he did nothing wrong. whew...get someone to help you teach them grammar, please!
We all hope for a full recovery for Brewer, but let's not forget his life is still in danger. Survival rates for 80% burns have increased significantly since the 1940s, but are still somewhere around 50%. The greatest danger is shock and infection, which can take hold even in the most state of the art burn center. Should the victim not survive, charges would be upgraded to murder.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 08:06:04 AMMost of the comments above, this is why I'm scared of USA! I will send Bent's parents to jail, not the kid. The parents are responsible for the education of their sons. The kid will have hard times when he will realize what he has done and will need psychological support. We always forget that jail should not be about vengeance (but in a country with still death penalty, that claims to be the best democratic system...) but should be about rehabilitation!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 08:30:00 AMAnd yes this isn't about religion at all, but what if the kid just looked at what soldiers did in Abu Ghraib and thought that it's ok to torture someone just for fun...
Catholics had the Inquisition and the Crusades and now Islam (that is 500 years younger as religion) has the Jihad. But both of them have also a message of peace and hope. Religions are not good or bad. It depends on how we decide to receive their messages. and i¿m saying that as an atheist!
The simple truth is that all of this "Political Correctness" is what is causing most of our problems.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 08:52:36 AMAny time you start teaching that it's better to lie to someone because the truth would hurt their feelings... something a muck.
Who was to blame? all 6 (SIX) kids were. Brewer STOLE (thats what it is called when you "buy" something and not pay for it) a game from one of the "Bullies". The tried to get compensation (I'm not saying taking the bike was right). Then got turned in to the police for it. So it's understandable that they were more than a little upset (if i were to "buy" you TV and not pay for it you would be upset too). Burning someone for that is pretty messed up. But truthfully, Brewer did deserve to get ruffed up a little (with fists, and only by the kid he stole it from) for not paying for his game.
And for the last little bit of my soap box...
Why the H*** are schools punishing kids for defending themselves, but it's ok for the "bullies" to start the fights to begin with. (more of what's adding to the "pusification" of this country.
Hate is a CRIME no matter What Religion you are!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 09:19:50 AMI am so shocked mostly by the responses on this site, what a bunch of nuts. feeling sorry for the perpetrators? have you all gone mad!!!!!! I think those boys that did this and
Posted 10/14/2009 at 09:24:23 AMthe ones that watched should be doused in gasoline and burned too!
Those kids did something horribly cruel and destroyed that
boy's life! you should be FEELING sympathy for the VICTIM
not the idiots the scumbags who did this to him. they
should be put on DEATH ROW and tortured for what they did!
God help this country its LOST!
This is one reason why everyone needs life insurance. It's a terrible situation, people kill each other everyday. Michael's parents don't need this grief. Every parent should have at least $50,000 on each of their children. In this case, if he does die, take the money, buy a few Tec9's, light up the houses of all 5 kids, wipe them out and get this country cleaned up. Eye for and eye M.F.
After watching "The Brave One" last night, street justice seems the way to go. Cops and courts can't do shit.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 09:32:14 AMThis is the first time I have ever commented on an item, however this situation made my stomach turn. This is not about religion. As a society we need to all take heed to what is going on, if this child was set on fire by known bullies maybe some ADULT should have paid closer attention to the kids and this may have been prevented. When I was 14 I was riding my ten speed and sneaking an occasional cigarette, not in a million years would I have thought up such a horrifying way to get back at someone who had told on me. This may be a terrible tragedy but let's not forget child on child violence has become a problem across this country and it is about time we become more involved with what our children and their friends are up to. I hope this boy makes it and the others are punished fairly and their future is decided not by a mad community but by a judge we put in place to make these decisions.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 10:35:29 AMIt's sad to read all your comments... This is about a boy lay'n in the hospital who is going to suffer for the rest of his live "if he survives". If it was your kid you would think so different. It's a shame and disturbing to read a bunch of grown up's talking like if they were still babies. No one deserves to be hurt by another person's action especially like that......... To Michael Brewer my family is pray'n for you and your family.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 10:37:08 AMI am a Spanish boy and I'm interested in this case, I believe that children do not deserve any respect.
More because of a videogame and a bicycle, it's awful and ridiculous.
We wish Mike a speedy recovery and heal soon!
all my support to Mike and his family and friends, are depressed. Mike! Do not give up! you have the support of everyone! offenders pay for their crime!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 10:42:47 AMI'm sorry, no speak English, I use a translator xD
Excuse me Bob...but I don't think ruffing anyone up solves the problem. It's thoughts like these that lead a child from a school yard fight to shooting classmates. Violence is not the answer and until we teach others this method of thinking we are going to continue to see violence between kids. How would you feel if your child came home after being "ruffed" up. I bet you would send him back to school with the clear message to fight back, as opposed to taking the time to figure out why he was "ruffed" up in the first place.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 10:44:11 AM@ Joe Athiest..
If I put a loaded gun to your head or beat you within an inch of your life or dangled you over a cliff guess what? I'll bet I hear these words being uttered from your mouth: "Oh God no" or "Please God, save me". Please tell me you've never ever said those words ever. If you say so, then your a total liar. There are no athiests so stop deluding yourself. You think you are but the truth is you can only be agnostic at best. I consider myself agnostic because what if there is a higher power? That's my mindset.
Now back on topic. In America, this crime WAS and ISOLATED incident. We, the people of the United States care about what happens in this country just as anyone would care about whatever happens in their country but at a much higher level. If this crime happened in another country, such as the middle east, it wouldn't have even been reported in the United States, in most cases. And even if I did hear of a "heinous" crime, like Neda Agha Soltan from Iran that was murdered by their own government, yes I would and did feel horrified by what happened but there is nothing that I can do about it nor hope for any court system remedy. The laws (more like "lack there of laws") in those countries are completely different. No one in that country was punished for what they did to Neda so it's just out of my mind now. She's gone at the hands of a ruthless government run by dictator(s).
Most people care about what happens in their own country because it hits closer to home. It's just a fact. Deal with it. In this country, we have laws and what happened to Michael Brewer IS considered an isolated incident. This is bullying gone completely out of control. But the good news is that those involved were caught and now known and will now have to go to court and do jail time for what they did. And, NO, this country is not falling apart because of this crime or by what people here post. I see some good posts here but most of it isn't intelligent at all. (example: injecting religion into this topic)
So Mr. Joe Athiest, I do care more for what happens in my country because it hits closer to home and I am familiar with our laws. I almost got to serve on a jury in the case of a 15 year old adolescent who murdered his whole family. I think 6 were killed in all. This happened about 20-25 miles from where I live. This was being tried as a capital crime. The accused got life without parole. And I know that something as bad will happen to those involved in what happened to Michael Brewer.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:00:35 AMI said a prayer for the victim, his family and his friends as for the other boys yes I prayed for them and their families too, what other hope is there for them. I also prayed that they will be tried and punished as adults There is NO EXCUSE for this!!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:38:29 AMGLY
It's no jolly wonder kids do such awful things : when you consider the numerous brutal video movies that are freely available to teens; when you consider that Americans are obsessed with taking revenge, whether it's among teenage gangs, or law-and-order fanatics who would like to see even six-year-olds tried as adults, or George Bush who took revenge on prisoners at Gitmo, by authorising torture, even though those prisoners had not even been CHARGED with anything!
Those boys were taking revenge, in keeping with how so many Americans think, on a kid who had failed to pay up on a video. Their brutality also reflects the brutality seen on so many movies & the fact that such brutality in entertainment has desensitised people to violence : it has made violence "normal" or routine. There are so many appalling role models in so many movies.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:44:42 AMAnd how stupid IS IT, the very idea of trying a kid as an adult?? No-one is an adult at 13 or 15. If it's right to try kids as adults, why not give kids the right to vote in federal elections? Why not also allow condom vending machines in schools? If people have no problem with the ludicrous idea that a 14-year-old is an adult when they do something bad, they should also have no problem in letting all schools provide condon vending machines, or letting 14-year-olds smoke tobacco, or obtain their first driving license. If you are an adult any of the time, you are an adult ALL of the time, not just when it suits some people who want take out their own revenge on some kid.
i blame the parents! they probibly have vista on their pc and it is just so slow that kids have nothing better to do than kill eachother. and im all for setting someones car on fire if they owe ya 40 bucks but u dont have to light the kid on fire!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:54:22 AMWell, perhaps this also shows a pretty big lack of communication, imho...the fact that these kids were allowed free rein to do whatever they pleased, let alone to set another child on fire is pretty crazy. I mean, think about it - 'cause no-one is giving a crap about what's happening, these kids think it's cool to set a person on fire, inflict up to 80% burns and laugh about it afterwards. That's pretty sickening, to be honest...
@Robert
There probably are atheists, and we can never know what happens in a hypothetical situation, lol. Oh well. Kinda irrelevant, is mine post.
Since I'm not familiar with American law, or politics I won't make a comment here. All I'll do is reiterate what I said earlier: in my opinion, as a young person myself, it serves as an example that many of us are seemingly ignored or treated as "lower priority", and instead of being given a good, strong set of values and beliefs, are instead exposed to a void of communication and an undisciplined environment of morality. But yeah. I'm just a kid myself. Whadda I know lol?
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:55:05 AMTime-out does not always work on some kids / teenagers.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:15:23 PMMichael Brewer's family has set up a foundation with Bank of America for anyone who wants to help with medical expenses. The foundation's account number is 898035752616 and funds can be deposited at any Bank of America
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:16:55 PMAmerica, we are only reaping what we sow. As a parent I am charged with the following:
1.) Loving my kid(s)
2.) Feeding my kid(s)
3.) Clothing my kid(s)
4.) Teaching my kid(s) right from wrong
5.) Teaching my kids responsibility
6.) Respect all human beings no matter which race or culture they are from.
At these boys age, I would say that the parents have to shoulder some of the blame.
A child is as a seed. How a parent waters and nurtures the child will determine how well the flower will bloom.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:28:10 PMI feel so bad for Michael. He looks like a good kid and a sweet boy. I encourage everyone to either donate or send him a get-well card:
Michael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Ryder Trauma Center
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
He will feel encouraged knowing that total strangers are concerned about him.
As for those little monsters, they need to be taught a serious lesson. What kind of parents do they have that they don't teach the kids right from wrong? It disgusts me.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:29:05 PMYou can't always blame the parents. You can be a role model partent and still end up giving birth to a horrible person. Everyone is wired different. Some are born without souls or, for those agnostics, are born with no feelings of remorse or regret for what they do. We as indivduals make choicse when we are on our one away from home. Most turn out good but there will always be rotten apples. You could be right though. We haven't see the parents of the juveniles yet.
Oh and Jason. As of now, these five juvies have already been charged with an adult crime. This may chage at a later time, who knows. I think the court of public opinion will put pressure on the police and prosecutors to keep the charges as they are now. Jason, you're way off base here. These laughing juvies have already shown no fellings of remorse for what they did (except one). These juvies will most likely never change their behavior in life.
One things for sure, if Michael Brewer dies of this crime, these juvies will probably serve many decades or perhaps a life sentence. If Michael Brewer survives, they will probably be charged with attmpted murder and that carries about a 10-25 year prison sentence. This will vary because we don't even know what the exact charges are as of yet.
I understand that the juvies were going to the same shool that Michael Brewer was going to. If so, that would make them 15 years of age, as well. It is not out of the ordinary to charge a person of this age with an adult crime. Take a look at this link where a 12 year old boy was charged with an adult crime.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32483792/
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:30:44 PMDoes anybody know what hospital this kid is in? I bet a lot of people out there would like to send cards and show support for this family. They need our prayers and God now to get them through this. We should all reach out and do what we can for these people they need all the support they can get.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:49:25 PMRobert, you said this:
"If I put a loaded gun to your head or beat you within an inch of your life or dangled you over a cliff guess what? I'll bet I hear these words being uttered from your mouth: "Oh God no" or "Please God, save me". Please tell me you've never ever said those words ever. If you say so, then your a total liar. There are no athiests so stop deluding yourself. You think you are but the truth is you can only be agnostic at best. I consider myself agnostic because what if there is a higher power? That's my mindset."
And to you I say this: You are an idiot. Please educate yourself about atheism and agnosticism, and then learn to refrain from making such stupid presumptions.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:58:12 PMUm, Dawnmarie, that inofrmation was posted above.
Michael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Ryder Trauma Center
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
But to you and others who continually mention "god," where was he when this happened?
Posted 10/14/2009 at 12:59:38 PMThe article said they called him a rat. That may have given them the reason they where looking for. In some minds being a rat is the worse thing you can do and it is taught in all pop-culture.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:05:04 PM4.) Teaching my kid(s) right from wrong.
America, sometimes a "time-out" little johnny does not work.
America, sometimes as a parent you have to be a parent and put your foot in your child's ass to get the desired results.
America, it is our job as parents to make sure our children are doing what they are suppose to do, and if they are not then we as parents have to find out what the problem is and correct it with love or a swift foot.
America, raising a child is a balancing act. Give them love when they need it and give them a swift foot when they deserve it.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:13:55 PM"The article said they called him a rat. That may have given them the reason they where looking for. In some minds being a rat is the worse thing you can do and it is taught in all pop-culture."
True, and it's a stupid idea. People think it's honorable to protect criminals?
"America, raising a child is a balancing act. Give them love when they need it and give them a swift foot when they deserve it."
I can't say this is wrong (although plenty of PC bred people will) but at the same time, I couldn't imagine hitting my little girl. I suppose it's child dependent. Some kids don't respond to reason, time outs, threats, whatever, and I guess maybe do need a little....prodding. My parents did it all the time, although I can tell you all it did for me is make me a) fear them and b) resent them. And I still did all kinds of stupid stuff.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 01:32:14 PM@ Joe Atheist
Now why would I want to educate myself to Atheism? I know that angostics and be difined as an athiest but I'm not one of them. If fact, Merriam Webster describes it best about me here:
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2 : a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something — ag·nos·ti·cism
The key word is "unknown". This is why I don't completely cast aside the existence of God. Why? Because I am unsure or I question the existence of God considering the reality that surrounds me.
Merriam Webster describes Atheism as:
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity
Yeah good luck with that philosophy. It's real refreshing and awe inspiring. Welcome to the dark side.
Also, you mention in another post.. "But to you and others who continually mention "god," where was he when this happened?"
Life is allowed to flourish on this planet but God (whether God exists or not) doesn't control what happens. Free will and morals are what we have and what we have been taught.
On a lighter note. I'm glad you to see you have given God a gender. "he" Interesting.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:07:17 PM@ Joe Athiest:
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:12:06 PMYou say "where was God when this happened?", God has his reasons and a purpose. No one knows for sure why certain things take place. Who are we to judge? Who are we to question? God may use this to open eyes that have been closed for too long. On the other hand, satan is working hard too, therefor, bad things or in this case tragic/ horrible things, will happen.
Anyway...Unfortunatley, Michael had to suffer ALOT for something that was in many opinions "small". A sin is a sin. Of course, if he didn't steal and just misunderstood something being given to him then he suffered for nothing. Or maybe it wasn't for nothing. Think of the many people that will take this into consideration. They might teach their kids a little differently now, hopefully.I pray for this person who is forced to go a long way and start at such a young age. I'm not much older than him and if I had that done to me, I would need all the support I could get! Praying is donating too!
God Bless You Michael!
Better for these boys to have had a little God in their life than to be walking around with the "Devil" in their spirit.
Then maybe Michael Brewer would not have had to suffer senselessly.
The apple does not fall to far from the tree.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:24:19 PMSome of you have turned this into an argument about religion...this had nothing to do with religion. This was about five boys who thought it was okay to hurt someone else for something very insignificant. For those of you who claim/hint that Michael deserved it for being a "rat", try to imagine the same thing happening to your own son or nephew. You probably would not say that at all.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:27:20 PMUm, Robert, if you lack a belief in a god, you are an atheist. Period. So welcome to the dark side yourself.
Theism= belief in a god.
A-theism= the lack of said belief.
You can be an agnsotic atheist, or a gnostic atheist. There is no division between agnosticism and atheism. I am an agnostic as well. We can't be SURE there is no god. I make no claim of knowledge. As far as we can reason, I can be reasonably sure there is no god. I have not been convinced by the evidence. Therefir, I lack god belief, as do you. And I am not assigning a gender, I am referring to the commonly assigned gender when I say "he."
'Merriam Webster describes Atheism as:
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness"
LOL. You take that seriously? One must believe in god in the first place to refer to somehting as ungodly. You used this definition, yet you say you don't believe in a god...which is it?
Hey youth, this:
"Or maybe it wasn't for nothing. Think of the many people that will take this into consideration. They might teach their kids a little differently now."
is a horrendously disgusting, morally bankrupt philosophy that people use to cling to theirgod belief. I hope you don't really believe that. And if you balme the "devil" why doesn't god defeat him, if he's all powerful? Why doesn't he protect people? Or, why doesn't he just heal Michael?
ThirdPlanet, grow up.
"Better for these boys to have had a little God in their life than to be walking around with the "Devil" in their spirit.
Then maybe Michael Brewer would not have had to suffer senselessly.
The apple does not fall to far from the tree."
I hope you aren't an adult, because that's embarassing.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:34:34 PMMoral of the story? Go to school and you avoid being lit on fire. LoL!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:37:06 PM"Some of you have turned this into an argument about religion...this had nothing to do with religion."
We're completely aware of that fact. Soemone derailed the topic, and we just went with it. I agree with you about the "rat" thing, that's just horrible.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:37:31 PMWhat the juveniles yelled was "He's a snitch" . They didn't yell "Rat" at him.
Anyhow. The subject went from a heinous crime committed to Michael Brewer to Why did this happen to Paul posting this dumb response:
Paul said:
This makes me sad to see such a horrible thing happening here in america. If this was a muslim culutre I could understand. America I weep for our future when children set other children on fire. The Horror.
Then Mr. Athiest decided to weigh in his thoghts, etc.
You're right though. Religion should not have been injected into this but when people start to question why this happened, then, unfortnately religion comes in. Most people on this planet are religious so there ya go.
Update: Michael Brewer is getting worse. He is now subject to infection and they said his internal organs could start to fail. This isn't looking good.
Send you get well wishes now before the worst happens:
Michael Brewer
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:44:55 PMJackson Memorial Hospital
Ryder Trauma Center
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
"Update: Michael Brewer is getting worse. He is now subject to infection and they said his internal organs could start to fail. This isn't looking good."
Do you know him? I hope not, because I'd hate to think I'm here arguing religion with someone close to the victim in this story.
I hope he pulls through.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:59:27 PMRobert, where did you read that he is getting worse?
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:00:16 PM@joe athiest:
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:12:41 PMprobably for the same reason he hasnt healed you... he might be using him as an example like i stated before.
"@joe athiest:
probably for the same reason he hasnt healed you... he might be using him as an example like i stated before."
Your parents have done you a great disservice. I feel bad for you. Perhaps one day, you will realize some things.
I still ask you to think about what you are saying though, and realize how HORRIBLE it is. Your god allows people to be burned a live to teach others a parenting lesson? And he's benevolent and all mecriful?
Look at the disgusting things you have to say just to justify things that you know make no sense. All to keep clinging to your sky daddy.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:17:44 PMCan't see where religion enters into this at all. Perhaps lack of respect for human life is involved, don't you think. And a lack of fear of punishment. Might I suggest that we make the punishment fit the crime. These kids need to be dosed with alcohol and set on fire and not put out until it has burned 80% of their bodies. Actually, all crimes should be punished with punishment that fits the crime. Rapists should be raped, murderers should be murdered in the same fashion as their crime, thieves should have their property confiscated to the extent of their theft, etc etc. I do like the idea of chopping off hands for thiefs though, which might eliminate repeat offenses. Oh, and one more thing, the names of juvinile offenders should be released in the media for every crime, no matter how minor, they commit. We need to know who these dickless little bastards are so we can be on the lookout for them. If we can monitor them before they get too bold, maybe we can eliminate some of the adult crimes that occur.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:18:45 PMI'll pray for you, I'm done. Have a blessed life and hopefully soon enough you'll realize the blessings he provides if only you weren't so oblivious.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:21:07 PMJoe Atheist said:
ThirdPlanet, grow up. I hope you aren't an adult, because that's embarassing.
Well Joe, I am an adult who has raised three children and none of them have been in trouble with the law.
Did the fear that your parents put in you help you to decide to be a positive and productive citizen.
There is nothing wrong with believing in God and there is nothing wrong with believing in Atheism if you choose.
I will be the bigger adult and not attack your beliefs and I hope you will be the bigger adult and not attack others beliefs.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:23:22 PMin a single article and the responses that followed it, every single negative stereotype about americans has been met or surpassed. Ignorant disrespect towards minority cultures, blind religious justification, failure to LOOK at the article and notice that the questions your asking have already been answered (otherwise known as self involvement), bad grammer, violent crimes, bad parenting, gang-like behaviour.....maybe youre not aaaall guilty of aaaall of these things but ive seen enough not to want to find out........
f*ucking americans...
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:29:25 PM@ Joe Athiest.
First off. My username is Robert, not Robert Agnostic
unlike you Joe Atheist. I'm glad I don't have to label you as you know how to do that well on your own.
Second of all, I already quoted to you Merriam-Webster.com definitions of Agnostic and Atheist. Look it up. This thread is not about religion or lack of, get it? What are you here for? To comfort those well wishers and those that pray for Michael Brewer who may possibly die now?
"Hey! I'm Mr. Joe Atheist. How can I be of assistance to you today?" "Come and join my atheist beliefs." That's right. That's why I've tagged myself ATHEIST next to my name" Oh please.
They will get symathies from me. Why? Because I don't stand in the way of anyones beliefs. As I said, most people on this planet are religious and so are the people posting in this thread. Please just go away and let these people grieve for him.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:29:27 PMam sorry what happend micheal those kid are going to be in jail for a long time we all miss you and love you
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:37:12 PMIf that kid had a PC he wouldnt have needed to borrow the game he could have just gone to torrents and downloaded a copy for himself. Mac's suck.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:37:37 PMYou know...as I read through these comments, I can't help that some of you are as ridiculous as the kids who did this. This poor boy will spend five months in a hospital and the rest of his life looking at himself in the mirror. He will come home and probably run accross this blog. And he will realize that the world is even worse than he thought it was. Because of people sending him well wishes, or showing compassion, people have taken this conversation to discuss riduiculous religious topics, and ask the question "why he didn't jump in the pool?" Great way to make him feel better about himself. I wonder how many of us, who are in a full blaze, are conscious of mind enough to make any decisions? Michael...if you ever read this, I am sorry that your pain has turned into a conversation starter for so many ass holes. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. Please do not go through life, thinking the whole world is this uncompassionate and plain wrong. Those people are out there, but the world is full of good people. I wish you well. I am sorry such a horrible thing has happened to you.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:52:28 PMWhat is going on in the world today damn over 40 game i cant belive it my gosh it sucks i want to be old enought o be a prosecutor so i can prosecute to it is horrible
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:52:56 PMThank you, Unbelievable.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:56:09 PMCheck out the little angels:
http://www.miamiherald.com/
Posted 10/14/2009 at 03:58:26 PM"I'll pray for you, I'm done. Have a blessed life and hopefully soon enough you'll realize the blessings he provides if only you weren't so oblivious."
That's it, run away. Same with you, Robert, who obviously isn't able to counter an actual argument presented him.
Can you dispute my claims re: the distinction (or lack thereof) regarding atheism and agnosticism?
""Hey! I'm Mr. Joe Atheist. How can I be of assistance to you today?" "Come and join my atheist beliefs." That's right. That's why I've tagged myself ATHEIST next to my name" Oh please."
Oh man. It's for quick identification on the net in the context of a religious discussion. Use your brain.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:02:08 PMYou people have no consideration... This isnt about religion but a terriable tragedy that happened to my CLASSMATE!! I KNOW ALL OF THEM. THE KIDS WHO DID IT AND MIKE. SHOE UR SUPPORT BY HELPING NOT ARGUING OVER RELIGION!!!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:02:22 PMAll I have to say is this...
Where the hell were their parents? Good parenting can prevent most run ins like this. Obviously this is lacking from these boy's lives. My condolances to Michael and his parents. These other boys should be ried as adults as they have shown that the obviously thought about their actions before they acted on them.
Just think of it this way....
They douse Michael in alcohol and set him ablaze over a video game. What happens when someone else does something that any of these boys don't like? Do we have the next set of unibomber's on our hands? Or are they the next "Home grown terrorist's"? Will they come after your children next? Where does it all end? Where did they get this idea from?
Watch your children now! What they do today may turn into something far worse tomorrow! Only you (the parents) have the chance to save your children from making bad choices and hurting others! There is no parenting manual. There is no way to tell at birth what your children will become. It's our responsibility as parents to pay close attention to our children! Only we can change them at a young age to better adults! I know that my child will NEVER do anything like this, because I pay attention to their every action and correct them when they do wrong. Disapline your kids! Don't beat or abuse them, but disapline them! THe bible says "Do onto others as you would want them to do onto you." Thats not saying that God said it. IT'S COMMON SENSE! USE IT!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:04:11 PMTHIS IS HORRIBLE I GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL JUST THINKING ABOUT BEING IN THE SAME BUILDIMNG SEEING THEM PASS BY AS I GET TO CLASS IS SCARY. PLEASE MIKE RECOVER WE MISS U AT SCHOOL.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:09:50 PMTo School Member:
I am sorry you are having to witness this. I am also sorry that you and your friends are having to deal with such a horrible situation at such a young age. Be there for Michael. Don't allow this mess to influence you. Most people are really concerned for everyone involved. Unfortuantly, some people are selfish and take any opportunity to run off at their mouths.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:11:20 PMJoe Atheist said:
"Some of you have turned this into an argument about religion...this had nothing to do with religion."
We're completely aware of that fact. Soemone derailed the topic, and we just went with it.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 02:37:31 PM
Joe, I can't help but notice that you are still "running with it". Let it go.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:12:58 PMMike please this from all you friends and teachers saying we miss u and hope u recover fully soon.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:15:38 PM@ Atheist.
You lose but nice try and nice spin.
The End!!
People of this thread may now morn in any way you see fit.
Over and out.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:23:37 PM"@ Atheist.
You lose but nice try and nice spin.
The End!!
People of this thread may now morn in any way you see fit.
Over and out."
AHAHA. So I take it this is an admission you are intellectually outclassed? And no one is being prevented from MOURNING here.
But it's fine, Mary is right, this isn't the place for this.
Again, horrible story, I wish him and family/friends well.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:28:05 PMC.M.B. is right. I am a teacher and I see the results of poor parenting, better stated as lack of parenting, everyday. There are children, that no matter what their parents do, will end up like this. At this age, peer pressure is alot more influential than parenting. However, it has been my expirence, that 90% of problems such as this could be avoided if parents took the time to talk to their children and pay attention to what they are doing. This is everyones fight though. We as a society allow these types of things to be seen on T.V. and in video games. I am not a TV basher, but this people are not necessarily born prone to this type of behavior. They have witnessed it somewhere, somehow.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:28:46 PM@robert cerrito
After your comment I stopped reading the rest. No one deserves this. I appreciate you commenting and telling us about what you know.
This was not caused by video games!!! The people that end up with that answer have never seen or played any video games. I grew up in a nice area but yet I know there are other places in the US and the world that do not have a good influence on people's decisions. Like Cerrito said, it's the type of area they live in.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 04:48:41 PMRead the name.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 06:15:20 PMAnyone can make a donation if you'd like to help the poor kid.
here are the details.
http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/extra/MI133991/
Posted 10/14/2009 at 06:41:36 PMHey! Maybe if instead of calling the cops, a parent called the other kid's parent and tried to work something out after the bike incident. Maybe the parent could have settled the $40 and ended it. Maybe the other kid's parent could have talked to his kid about how its only $40 and not worth the hassle.
It isn't the parents' fault entirely, but thats why minors are minors. They do stupid shit if no one pays attention when a situation like this gets out of control.
I love how people try to make excuses about religion and human nature and our country instead of blaming stupid kids and stupid parents! Actually I hate it... and thats where most problems seem to come from these days. Stupid kids become stupid parents all over again.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 06:45:38 PMSo no one has pulled the race card out. After watching it on the news, and seeing that 5 kids were black, I'm sure there will be some racist tension build up.
On another note, these "kids" are psychopaths and need to be exterminated. They're viruses, parasites that thrive on the suffering of others, as they've proved it. I say burn them back, but not on 80% of their bodies second degree, 100% third degree, and don't induce a medical coma. Keep the awake so they actually learn what they did. I'd watch THAT reality TV show!
Oh, I'm sick? Sadistic? More-so than the psychopaths who burned that poor kid? There's no defending those monsters! They're not human folks. They're monsters. Humans wouldn't do that to other humans for ANY reason.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:03:23 PM@Joe Atheist
agnosticism is the belief that there is a god, somewhere, but you do not follow a "religion"
atheism is the belief that nowhere, at any given point in time, nor will there ever be, a god, or higher power
@Joe Atheist
I feel bad for your own kids. I have no problems that you are agnostic/atheist, but part of being a good human being (religious or not) is having respect for other people's beliefs. I am reading all of these messages and I don't see anyone insulting or criticizing your beliefs. They politely say that they disagree, if anything, or they point out that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. If you are raising them to be as rude and insulting as you are, they will not make it far in life, because so many people will easily get sick of them, whether they say it to your kids' face or not.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:03:57 PMHey Ron!
Minors are minors? That light each other on fire? It's not war, you idiot, it's a dispute. Civilized humans, as we so proudly call ourselves, would solve this in a civilized manner, or at the worst, throw a couple of fists around, NOT LIGHT SOMEONE ON FIRE!!! If you can't admit that lighting someone on fire is psychopathic, especially when laughing after doing it, there's obviously something wrong with you, pal. All your maybes are senseless. You're missing the entire point of the level of monstrosity of this event. I mean, wow dude!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:07:46 PMre: my last post
agnosticism is the belief that there MAY BE a god (not there "is")
ADD: You have said that there is no god, so don't plead your case any differently in later posts. Pick one. there 'isn't', or there 'might be' and you have no way of 'being sure'. You can't have it both ways; be agnostic and atheist.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:10:14 PMYou people are so hateful towards each other. Something this terrible has happened and you are still being like this, the world is such a hopeless place.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:10:56 PMI don't care how much a damned game cost.It wasn't worth what happened. This is insane. The ringleader needs to be taken away from society for a long time, if not forever. If his family reads this and is offended, oh well. You didn't do your job as parents. You FAILED and now some kid may die because of the sociopath you didn't stop.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:12:37 PMAfter seeing Pete's "Comment of the Day" post, I decided to refrain from reading the previous comments.
Firstly let me say, regardless of the situation that "provoked" the attack, this is a horrific crime. Horrific for many reasons. One, this young man will likely be morbidly disfigured, IF he survives. The torture involved is barbaric, to say the least.
Secondly, my attention turns to the children who perpetrated this shocking crime. Dear God!!! How much hatred must one have inside to even be able to conceive such an act? It is a serious sickness in our society when young men can do such a thing to a human being without batting an eye.
And make no mistake....this type of crime will have to gain momentum before America sees that our culture incubates this type of detachement from humanity that enables a heart to become so cold so quickly, it makes you wonder if one ever grew there at all.
Likely it didn't.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:25:48 PMThe kids who attacked Michael aren't all black, George. I haven't seen them all but at least two -- the Jarvis brothers -- are white. So far, there's been no reporting at all that suggests this thing has a racial element to it.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 07:29:56 PMomg i cant believe junior (jesus) wud do tht poor michael i hope he lives.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 09:07:51 PMThe punishment certainly didn't fit the crime, even if Michael was a little bugger (failing to pay the money he owed is a crime).
Trying to steal the bike was stupid and setting the kid on fire was just obscene - when a simple complaint to the kids parents should have lead to payment or return of the game.
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:30:47 PMThose 5 monster's better be charged as adults, they are all old enough, all 15 with the exception of a 13 year old, they know right from wrong.
When they made the decision to light a human being on fire, over a stupid video game they sealed their fate, and now should be held accountable for their actions and suffer the consequences. There are absolutely NOOOOO excuses for what they have done, it does not matter if Michael snitched on them, they should not of tried to steal that bike. And that $40 dollars is not and will never be worth the trouble they have caused, life they have destroyed, and their own fates.
They are heartless and cruel. And better hope Michael survives this terrible ordeal. Its almost unbelieveable at times to hear of such crimes committed by teenagers, where are the parents? What kind of people raise these types of monster's? If you Parent's can not raise your children and raise them right, with morals, manners, and respect for other's do us all a favor and quit reproducing!!!
Posted 10/14/2009 at 11:45:37 PMI, think america needs to wake up and start cracking down on these people that are doing these crimes. I , believe that the President should pass a law that if you harm a Human and found guilty then that will be your punishment. An eye for an eye I believe.IF you steal after your second offense then they should cut of a hand. I know it sound harsh but that should send a message.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:33:48 AMThe kids who did this should be sterilized and imprisoned. Their parents should be sterilized.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:45:21 AMPoor Mike, have to suffer this, and all his friends and family ... The damn kids do not deserve respect! I hope you get paid what they dearly miss.
All my condolences to all, especially Mike, I hear that is getting worse ... I hope to recover! do not know anything, and I'm from the other end of the world (Spain) and I am concerned about the poor guy, please let me know when they find something in Spain does not give details of such Infomessages, really, hopefully will recover! I'll pray for you!
I leave my post, m.p.m._14 @ hotmail.com
Sorry, I'm not speack English, i use translator ...
Get well soon Mike! please!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 06:16:14 AMwhat the HELL does religion have to do w/ this incident?!?! this was premeditated murder and they need to be charged as adults, period.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 06:39:58 AMI pray for Mike's recovery. This is heart wrenching to me as a mom. Does anyone have an address in order to send a get well card???? Thank you.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:29:45 AMI pray the family of Michael and even Michael himself, never see's the comments posted here. I hope and pray none of you ever have to experience such a horrible act from another human being(s)and then read what I think is just as horrible, the lack of understanding or sympathy from another. Most of you should be ashamed for your comments and need to learn to keep them to yourselves. You are just as guilty of the crime as the young men who did this because you are keeping their crime alive. The shallowness of some is so hard to understand.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:57:05 AMMichael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Ryder Trauma Center
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
The parents of those kids need to be held responsible too! They apparently have not invested the time it takes to raise a child that at least has some sense of right or wrong. Or even respect for Human Life!
Nothing can change what happened to this young man, not even the original feelings of what I as a parent would want to do to someone who had hurt my child or anyone elses.
This with no doubt was uncalled for, and should not have happened. Those 5 boys are twisted and deserve to be locked up for a long time. How are their parents going to walk through life knowing what their child did? Maybe they have no sense of right or wrong. The defense will probably argue that these 5 boys were victims as well, victims of abuse and lack of parenting.
My thoughts and wishes of well being will be with Mike and his family. I'm just nausiated thinking about this whole thing!!!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:14:59 AMThank you "Mother of Seven". Oddly, this horrible crime will be another tool for parents, teachers and children alike, to learn from. Michael's suffering will not be in vain and he will be a success story. Michael will grow up to be a fine young man and make a huge contribution to the world. He already is doing this in my eyes. He is fighting with all his strength to beat the odds. I am a 49 year old alumni of Deerfield Beach Middle School, it saddens me to think how much has changed in the world for our young people. We didn't have to fear other's like the children have to today. Until we all stop blamming and take responsibility it will continue to spiral out of control.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:35:06 AMWe have all lost touch with human spirit and respect for one another.
First, my prayers go out to Michael and his family. I just have a few questions Im curious about. Did his parents know he didnt go to school and if so, why was he allowed to go outside at all. Also why was his friend, whom he visited, not in school as well? And why were the other boys that were with Bent not in school? For all these boys not to be in school, these parents do need to be held accountable. If my kid, who is also in middle school, is absent from school, I get a text and/or call from my son's school, and I am on it immediately. Not blaming Michael or his mom, just curious!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:36:46 AMYes Sam. Michael's mother was aware he was not in school. She was on the "Today Show" this morning. Michael had told his mother he was afraid to go to school on Monday, after telling his parents and calling the police about this Bent kid who took his father's bike for not paying up on a debt Michael owed over a video game. Michael's mother called the school that morning and explained the situation to the school. The school made arrangements to meet with Michael and his mom the next day to help him with this.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:56:04 AMthe first thing i did when i woke up was turn on the tv and the they were talking to michael's mom and i found out what had happend i thought to my self why! why! i feel so bad for the familys i will pray for all of them
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:05:13 AMthis situation really hits me hard so sad
Surprise, surprise...Lawyers for the Jarvises have requested a mental evaluation for their clients. Those were the two white boys. Denver Jarvis, the older one, was the one who poured the rubbing alcohol on Michael.
If my son did something like this I would feel like a failure as a parent. That's what those parents are - failures.
P.S. Michael's family has set up a MySpace page for him: www.myspace.com/504034193.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:14:28 AMthat would suck so bad, if some kids burned someone up here in P.A. there would be a good old fashion lynching
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:27:55 AM"These little bastards need to be charged as adults... and do adult time." - I agree...hard time for a long time. None of this probation after 10 years crap either. Lock them up and throw away the key.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:36:51 AMSounds like the next serial killer. This world is crazy and evil. Stop focusing on religion....this is about a young man that was set on fire people. These boys grow to men....what will they be like? They are already dangerous.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:44:41 AMWhite america needs to wake up!! These were 5 black kids on one white kid! If it was 5 white kids on one black kid good old Al Sharpton and J. Jackson would be protesting right now demanding justice for this hate crime!! Just shows how white people these days are f*#king push overs!! We need to stand up and fight!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:46:34 AMpainsface, there were only two black boys, two white boys and one Hispanic boy. One black boy gave the order, one white boy poured the alcohol, and the Hispanic boy flicked the lighter.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:03:14 AM"vanessa said:
THIS IS HORRIBLE I GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL JUST THINKING ABOUT BEING IN THE SAME BUILDIMNG SEEING THEM PASS BY AS I GET TO CLASS IS SCARY. PLEASE MIKE RECOVER WE MISS U AT SCHOOL. "
Those little monsters should not be allowed back in school.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:20:48 AMLet's quit making excuses for these thugs. hmmmpf, they all need mental evaluations, along with their parents. Where did these "children" get the idea to douse and burn someone over a $40 dispute? How in God's name have we gotten to this place where our children think this is fair retribution to beat, burn, mame, kill instead of negotiate, debate, talk and reason through issues?
Religion is NOT a factor in this, nor is race a factor. Please stop and think about what we can do as a society to correct these ills we as a whole have created. It's so easy to read these dispicable crimes and throw blame, pull race cards, disagree about religions, and generally pigeon hole every criminal we come across. Never is there discussion about what WE need to change to make our world a better place.
I feel it all starts with personal responsibility for ones actions, and this need be taught to children. Quit enabling bad and inappropriate behavior. Start teaching early in life to have respect for others, with yes sir's and no sir's, etc. Wake up parents of kids...this is the MOST important job in your life and should be your #1 priority. This, my friends, is your contribution to the world.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:52:46 AMI stand corrected! I just watched a better news feed. But still white america needs to wake up and stop getting stepped on by minorities.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:08:10 AMall the attackers were NIGGERS
this was a race crime
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:36:00 AMon the real if I was related to Michael I would have gone after them boys. Because what they was so childish and im a teen myself. I have a habit of getting revenge on people and I was related to that boy I would use my evil mind and get them fives boy a revenge they will never forget
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:40:59 AMpainsface, I should curse you out because it was only two black and so what if Al sharpen and my uncle J. Jackson protest so what? What was you going do about nothing but get on twitter, facebook, or myspace and do nothing but talk some junk! Plus the boy owe some money, I mean I wouldnt burn him I just what gang up on him and demand one my 40 dollars and if not I would personally fight one on one, like I always do
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:47:13 AMARE YOU SERIOS??? RELIGION PLAYS NO PART HERE YA DIMWITS!! ......this is stupidity at its finest....and those *children* are hardly that...considering their crime.....they should be tried and hung......we really need to go back to basics...wtf should any of us....have to now pay to keep them in jail? ......
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:52:25 AMTo "wxdavid"... You just proved yourself to BE the PROBLEM of our society. This people is why nothing will ever get solved and why our children are at risk. To all our black brother's and sister's, I send out a heart felt apologize for "wxdavid's" ignoranance.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:55:01 AMPeople, we don't have a Justice System, we have a Legal System. Unfortunately, often one is mutually exclusive of the other. As a result, innocence will always be the victims of the predatory criminal who looks to exploit the protection of the judicial system for their detestable & repugnant behavior. CONFRONT THIS HEAD ON!! Perpetrators, who premeditatedly harm innocence, should be punished in the SAME MANNER OF ASSUALT THAT they inflicted upon their victim! These degusting demonic kids SHOULD ALL BE SET ABLAZE!!... I DON'T CARE HOW OLD THEY ARE! THEY RUINED AN INNOCENT LIFE AND SHOULD PAY IN THE SAME MANNER!!! If we had this type of Justice System, I GUARANTEE murder/assault/shootings would PLUMMET!!!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:57:46 AMIt just goes to show you kids these days... raised terribly. God forbid you spank them, CPS would be called instantly. The kids threaten the parents now these days. It is disgusting how America is turning out to be. I think they should be tried and charged as adults. If you can't do the time don't do he crime. Parents should keep closer eyes on their children. All I can say is that it is disgusting, cruel, and uncouth.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:13:18 PMHoly crap...setting someone on fire over $40, then laughing about it. And this isn't the mafia, it's 13-15 year old kids.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:42:31 PMThis trash should have been separated from normal students long before something like this occured. It's a shame we have so little discipline or actual supervision in public schools.
Paul, you’re an idiot!!! I'm Christian but your comment of it being understandable in a Muslim culture only points out your ignorance. No matter what culture it is, it is a horrible crime, and to be quite frank, it only makes sense that teenagers would commit this type of crime in America. I don't hear about it in any other country where the teens are doing senseless crimes...It's mostly teens being used by political parties or armies, point being in other countries there forced to commit crimes, here it is only a reflection of our outstanding parenting skills and the lenience we have on children. They should be tried as Adults!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:42:51 PMWhat kind of a society have we become that a $40 video game is worth someones life. Shouldn't we be questioning the morals and ethics of the parents that raised these animals. who is the idiot that brought up the relious aspect of it, I mean really. That karma thing is a btch, these 5 will get theirs in jail. I hope someone there makes them their bitch.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:48:02 PMThis just sickens me. I hope that all of these teens are tried as adults for attempted murder. How else are we going to send out a message and make them accountable. This childs life will never ever be the same.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:48:14 PMListen to yourselves! You are now turning this into a religious matter!?! seriously? This has nothing to do with religion, or culture, or color. This boy was hurt not only physically, but emotionally and at the moment, they have no idea wether his organs will be able to sustain the injuries! This is not the time to be selfish! I don't know if you heard what his mother said, but she wants us to stop the hate crimes! And we have to change ourselves before we can help anyone else. You should start thinking about what he is going through and stop thinking about your inner hatred for other cultures!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 12:54:05 PMTHIS WAS A SENSELESS CRIME. ALL FIVE BOYS DESERVE THE SAME PUNISHMENT THEY GAVE MICHAEL. PRISON IS THE EASY WAY OUT. I DONT WANT MY TAX MONEY GIVING THEM THREE MEALS A DAY AND A PLACE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:03:47 PMAnd by the way....
Anyone that has studied theology and different religions SHOULD know that almost all religion.. CHRISTIANITY, BUDDHISM, ISLAM, JEWISH FAITH, CATHOLICISM, all show that the most important thing in life is to love one another and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. they all believe in a God or a higher power and in most they believe that there will be or is a messiah. so, with that being said, put aside your religious frustrations and realize for one second that we are all here for the same thing: to help, to love, and to do the right thing. so wake up! the world is pleading for peace and right now is the time to start trying to make peace with one another. life is not about hate or anger, it's about happiness. once again, think about this little boy, he needs our help!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:05:45 PMOMG This is sickening. Someone here actually commented that this is a good lesson that you should pay up if you owe someone. WTF!!!!! Michael Brewer is not responsible for this. NOT ONE BIT! NOT FOR ONE MINUTE. A friend of mine owes me $300. Do you think she's worried I'll set her ablaze if she doesn't pay up? It was reasonable for him to assume that if he did not pay his debt he would not be set on fire. Christ. You could not possibly be more mis-guided. If you have kids, DO NOT parent. They'd be better off with a lack of parenting. Do not fill their heads with your stupidity. I'm sorry. I find your comments outrageous.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:18:57 PMFirst off. Lets set one of you on fire and see if you are thinking straight enough to jump in the pool with flames flying over your face, body, and arms. Not to mention the smoke inhale that obviously clouds your ability to think or move at ALL!
Either way on top of that; the kid was "surrounded" by immature kids that didn't get a few dollars for a video game. He's just gonna bum rush them to get to the pool? I don't think so.
Now onto the next moronic posts about Religion. Religion HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING RIGHT IN THIS WORLD. Besides the fact that it's one of the leading money makers in the industry. That's divine right there...
He deserved to be set on fire? I hope who ever posted that comment gets a rude awakening someday in the morals of not hurting other human beings even for personal gain.
Michael is going to go through alot of things for his whole life now because of this incident. It will only be fair if the ones responsible forever be in his shoes of pain. Prison for life for his Life of Suffering till the day he passes from this world. Lets hope he is robbed of his life to soon by some STUPID kids.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:38:20 PMthis was really sad to hear about; i might not have known him, but its still really sad. those kids deserve to go to prison for a long time. i mean who would even think about doing that to someone? i dont understand whats gotten into people now a days, its just crazy. but i wish the best for michael, and his family. i will prey for you all. i wish the best of luck for you all. -n.blu
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:41:07 PMDon't bother to comment on this story if 1)you're not going to take it seriously, 2)talk about other things that have nothing to do with it, or 3)say stupid, meaningless statements that only make your cold heart visible. Quit talking about he should've jumped in the pool. The incident is done and over with, the facts remain, so what Michael Brewer could have done differently is completely irrelevant. I absolutely can not stand how insulting and rude some of you people are. It's ridiculous and it only shows your lack of respect for our freedom of speech.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 01:53:08 PMI called the hospital to send a get well card to him and the hospital was very rude. I also wanted to donate money but I dont know where to send that information. Can anyone help?
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:05:05 PMKarrie:
http://www.neighbors4neighbors.org/pages/donations.php
or call the family spokesman Danny Martinez at 561-574-7131
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:09:35 PMMichael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Ryder Trauma Center
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
He will feel encouraged knowing that total strangers are concerned about him. Thank you.
P.S. Address it in care of the Public Relations Office there at the hospital.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:15:15 PMMary P::: thank you so much for that information! I couldnt believe what I heard on my lunch hr at work. It is just so terrible and it is very sad that this young man has to deal with this the rest of his life... I do hope those children are tried as adults. There isnt any excuse for this matter in any way.
I am on the state line of Ill and Wis I also have a Twitter account to spread the word..
Thank you - Thank you again for that information.
Karrie
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:19:08 PMMary P thank you agin for the help and hope other readers will see your post and also send cards/ donations.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:22:08 PMFirst, I'd like to say to Michael and his family that I hope you recover and can move past this situation. I am deeply sorry you have to suffer over such a ridiculous and simple problem.
Second, this has nothing to do with religion, did try attack him over his religois beliefs? No. Personally I find it disgusting that so many people would take a story like this and leave comments debating about whether God exists and why He didn't protect Michael. If you have ever read the Bible you'd understand why God "let's bad things happen".
Third, I believe all these boys should be tried as adults. If they are "man enough" to light a kid on fire then they are "man enough" to suffer the consequences for their actions. This whole belief in America that we have to feel sorry for the criminal is part of what demeans our legal system. And the liberal yuppies that champion this belief are destroying the way our court system works.
Michael, if you ever read this know that I am praying for you, your family, and your loved ones.
Tyler, 19, Washington state.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:23:07 PMLibertarian.
You are welcome. Also:
Bank of America and Jackson Memorial Foundation have set up a fund in Brewer's name. Donations are being accepted at any Bank of America branch, and the Jackson Memorial Foundation can be reached at (305) 355-4999.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:25:24 PMme being hispanic i cant stand seeing people with the name of jesus jose and other names that comes from the bible, cause i see so many of them in jail and what the hell can you imagine someone saying hey jesus set him on fire!!!!? anyhow i swear if you have a name like that your bound to be in jail once in your life time lol
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:30:29 PMOnce again:
To make donations:
• call the family spokesman Danny Martinez at 561-574-7131 or
• Bank of America and Jackson Memorial Foundation have set up a fund in Brewer's name. Donations are being accepted at any Bank of America branch, and the Jackson Memorial Foundation can be reached at (305) 355-4999.
To send a get-well card:
Michael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Public Relations Office
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
He will feel encouraged knowing that total strangers are concerned about him. Thank you.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:31:45 PM1st Im not hear to put any comments down..
Ok this isnt about race and it shouldnt be it is about a young man that go burined very bad and this shouldnt of happend. this is another reason why there should be after school places to go to so these young children dont get into trouble and also if the parents arent involved in there children then bad things happen like this. I do think it is very stupid "Why" this was done and it doesnt really matter what color you are it shouldnt happen to anyone if you are white, brown, black or any color. I will again keep Micheal in my prayers and I'm going to be sending him a get well card.. He / his family will need it at this time.
Chicago: I am 2 hrs north of Chicago and I get those TV station's and that is all I do hear on the new is death - death and more death but the news only put's the black's killing the black's on there. So that make's it seem like those are the only bad people out there but really it isnt.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:56:11 PMAnyone who thinks this is OK is the DEVIL. Just like Chicago and Memphis. Can you not see where the problem BE. Black Boys getting revenge against another white child. When does this stop ? Hang the little Bastards from a tree for all to see. Baby Mama can't do it all. Baby Daddy need to be there. If they can remember who they is !
Posted 10/15/2009 at 02:59:30 PMCome on people!!! DO YOU REALLY THINK HE COULD EVEN BE THINKING RIGHT TO KNOW TO JUMP IN THE POOL????? You people are such idoits!!! If your WHOLE body was covered in flames, you probably can't think OR SEE anything!!! I have a really hard time seeing the comments on here. Michael should of done this.... or done that..... REALLY???? All of you rude people on here must of had been in his situation before. I have NEVER posted anything on the internet before, but you idoits got me going this time. Jerks!!! Only prayers and support need to be posted on here!!!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 03:19:25 PMFor those of you who are on MySpace, the family has set up a page for Michael:
http://www.myspace.com/504034193
Posted 10/15/2009 at 03:50:29 PMPaul said:
This makes me sad to see such a horrible thing happening here in america. If this was a muslim culutre I could understand. America I weep for our future when children set other children on fire. The Horror.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 05:46:49 PM
Posted 10/15/2009 at 04:04:32 PMPaul please refrain from bringing racism into this... Our country is full of children and adults brutalizing each other... Since the BEGGINING. our country just hides it differently then others. But its still here and its here every single day!!! Lets consentrate on how we can change that... Again lets refrain from comments that express inferiority of other cultures!
Those kids deserve something much worse than juvie. They should all have to deal with pain like poor Michael will have to deal with for the rest of his life, which hopefully will be a long time. That is just sick to me how kids can think that is even an option. I hope they go to prison and are sentenced for life. That would be the minimum sentence that would do Michael justice.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 04:05:43 PMrobert cerrito said:
I go to school with all of them. The Jarvis kids are bad and were always bein picked up by the deputy. Mike had to jump over a fence to get to the pool you morons and for people who think this is funny he almost dies and there is still a chance he might if he get a infection.
Posted 10/13/2009 at 09:30:25 PM
Im very sorry for what you and Mikes family and freinds are going through i hope you will all stay strong and help support mike through this time. There are no words people like that exist all over the world and will keep existing forever. Just be strong. Good luck to mike on recovery god willing he will heal with no infections...
Posted 10/15/2009 at 04:14:29 PMJust so you know JESSICA, the fire on him was put out with a fire extinguisher first. but he still had a little bit on him so he just jumped a fence and ran in the pool, becuase hes smart. And i also go to school with all these boys. i personaly know jeremy. its really sad what they all did to him and i hope he gets better. ill be praying.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 04:31:12 PMOctober 15,2009
Those Kids or teenagers who did such a horrible thing to MICHAEL BREWER should be sentenced to 10 t0 20 lashes in the Public and be in jail. No excuses !
Posted 10/15/2009 at 04:57:33 PMSend a lesson to others with lashing in the public.
My prayers are with the VICTIM.
This happened to a 15 year old boy over 40 dollars! These kids need to be going to adult court and tried as adults and go away for at least 20 years!! They will go out and do this again. When I read this story I wanted to throw up! They were laughing about it? It is pathetic when they wouldn't even show remorse. Who is raising these kids?
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:00:00 PMI pray for the family! Stay Strong! There will be justice!
hey if you guys what youo can get hem a facebook so you can do that on there to and yea i am sorry i do hope those boys go to jail and r tried as an adault im not kidding i just cant believe they would do that
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:02:37 PMThis story has nothing to do with religion.
Bottom line, the group of kids deserve to go to jail for what they did. It's sick and highly unnecessary. Nothing is to blame but our violent nature as human-beings. I hope that Michael gets the support he needs and that he will heal to a better state.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:25:26 PMI don't know why it always has to come down to racial issues or anything like that. As a white American Christian woman I will tell you right now it doesn't matter what they are. All races and all religions have problems. No one is better then anyone else. It isn't who or what you are. It's how you are raised and how you choose to behave that decides whether or not you end up doing things at such a horrible nature. I think it's time to wake up. Go back to the day when a neighbor would be able to see a kid doing wrong and get the kid get onto them and then the parent got onto them too. It's time to take care of our issues. Get involved and know what your kids are doing. This is happening everywhere to everyone. Every type of culture is faced with issues. It's just time everyone realizes it.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:26:56 PMyoo...i cant beleive it i remember micheal he was in my class when we where i 6th grade im so sorry i really hope you get better
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:29:47 PMThat is terrible. It is sad to see what the world is like today. That boy will be scarred for life if he lives. He will be in my prayers and hopefully yours. Get better Michael.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 05:52:47 PMKatelyn
This enrages me! I can't believe those little bastards lit him on fire! I truly wouldn't know what to do if it were my child, I would do very violent and illegal things to everyone involved.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 06:13:08 PMthis is messed up i never met micheal but it feels weird because the skumbags who did this used to go to my iddle school. the kid who lit him on fire is a total peice of s**t the kind of kid who jumped a chik and thinks hes tough shi*** . he can die in jail for all i caree and his little helpers . yeah fuck all of them . i dont no micheal but i hope he gets better
Posted 10/15/2009 at 06:18:17 PMWhat these 3 monsters do not possess is human compassion, they possess evil!! Human compassion is something that can not be taught in school...this is something that develops from infancy. When the family unit fails, children fail and disaster happens. There is no reform for these monsters, they need to live in a place with other monsters who are just like them live...state prison! Lock them up...throw away the key and tell their parents they too failed!!!!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 06:46:06 PMi cant belive those five boys did dat!! >:[
its tottaly insane and stupid
they shoud of jus told his parents instead of burning him alive!!
i say they be trown into jail for at least lik 60 years or even life
but they should be sooo punished for trying to burn Michael -who looks lik a sweet guy-
why would i (and other people too)want to let these 5 stupid possibly retarded kids out in the freedom?
~Cindy
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:06:19 PMThis whole entire situation, including the ugly emails here, is about the lack of respect, human decency, accountability, and hatred. These days, kids get in trouble at school if they defend themselves so the only thing that they can do is snitch...if not, they get in as much trouble as the bully. As far as our laws, stricter laws regarding the bully issues should be stricter to protect our children...heck...animals are much more protected than our own kids.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:09:13 PMand (i said so much but i dont care)
i hope if Michael ever sees dis, its dat soo many do care bout him
and dat people lik the 5 monsters should be in jail
feel better Michael!!
xoxo~Cindy ;]
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:10:19 PMwat i meant was dat soo many people do care about him
sry i mispelled
~Cindy
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:12:58 PMumm this is horrible and u the atheist guy. god is real and guess what you need to believe in him or you will go to helll and you will be the one that will get burned. god loves all and you still have a chance to go to heaven and that would be a true miracle. please take my word and to tell u the truth... there is no other higher power god and there willl never be. jesus came down to the earth to save alll your sins and forgave us all for are sins and you need to believe me. because if you dont that will be horible to not go to heaven. i will leave it to this qquestioin.. do u want to get tortured and burned all day in hell or go to heaven will jesus crist and get saved so you will live forever in paraadise?
Posted 10/15/2009 at 07:15:26 PMwtf is up wit ppl these days u just cant burn a kid gosh!!!
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:06:30 PMFrom the Miami Herald:
"The suspects' lawyers, however, said the boys didn't fully understand the gravity of what happened and were confused and scared in court.
``You have cameras, reporters, a judge telling you what you're charged with. If you are a young child, many times it's just overwhelming,'' said Stephen Melnick, who represents the youngest of the boys, Jeremy Jarvis, 13."
Posted 10/15/2009 at 08:16:25 PMAwwww..poor things. I guess nobody taught them that actions have consequences.
Hmmmm, I wonder if Jeremy Jarvis and the other 4 boys thought about just how overwhelming, confusing and scary it might have been to have alcohol poured on you and your skin lit afire? Nope, sorry, don't have any extra sympathy for them, it's all gone to Michael.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:07:27 PMWhat these kids did to michael is one of the most disgusting things ive ever heard in my entire life. i agree that he should have paid the 40 dollars but kids will be kids. I would understand a confrontation over the money but this is absolutely despicable. I just dont understand how any human being could do this to anyone. these kids are clearly messed up in the head and need maximum punishment. and for the lawyers going for the clinically insane card..so what? Either way these little monsters are menaces to society and should be locked up in prison forever. i felt like i was going to throw up when i read this. absolutely disgusting.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:12:53 PMalso...some of you brought up the race issue. Now personally i am not a racist. i am an 18 year old college athlete and i have many friends of a different race. Many of them being black, i feel as though for the most part theyre just like my white friends. this is because they were raised correctly and given guidance. although many of you are going to call me racist...how can you deny the facts? I am assuming this is not a good community and it seems as though there is a large concentration of minorities..is it really coincidence that 2 black kids and a hispanic kid were part of this? im sorry to those of you who are offended but take a look around, look at the ghettos and bad neighborhoods. They are 90 percent minorites. in these ghettos petty crimes and violent crimes are all way more prevalent. to all of you that say everyone is equal and he same open your damn eyes. look at our prisons...12 percent of our population is black and 75 percent of our prisons. but all you hear is bc minorites are targeted...give me a fucking break. All i am saying is being black or hispanic doesnt make you a bad person and i get along with many minorities on an every day basis but in general theres some problems in america with race and its undeniable. and if you disagree with me look at our president. he won the election bc hes black. 40 percent of the white vote and 97 percent of the black vote and almost a double in black voters...hmmm coincidence? its ok america hes doing a great job. good job guys. ignorant people are ruining this country.
So, i am sorry but race clearly plays a role not only here but in many places. I am so sorry for brewers family your child did not deserve this. i will keep him in my prayers for many nights to come. I hope that he pulls through and can lead a normal life.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:21:30 PMThis poor family - they should start immediately with a pro bono lawyer and start civil actions - these kids parents should be held accountable for their kids actions (not sure what Florida's law is on that). Doubtful they have any assets and anything is better than nothing - this family shouldn't also have to pay for all the medical. And as to you ignorant people saying why didnt he jump in the pool - well he eventually did - when he was set on fire he was surrounded - imagine yourself all up in flames - you are in total panic mode, you lose sense of where you are, whats happening, all you feel is incredible pain. Thats why kids who swim laps and are supposedly drown proof sometimes drown in emergency situations - they get in panic mode which they aren't trained to deal with. I'm all for life imprisonment for these monsters - thank gosh it didnt happen in California - they'd be out after just a few years - so sad.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 09:51:30 PMHere's a post from his localized news. I cry every time i read it.
One of the kids poured rubbing alcohol on Brewer, who was being held down. Then Mendez pulled out a lighter, igniting Brewer, prosecutors said.
Brewer ran to a nearby pool to jump in to extinguish the flames, Broward Sheriff's investigators said.
The boy's clothes were burned off his body and lay in the yard where he tried to stop, drop and roll the flames off. Brewer suffered severe burns on 75 percent of his body and police found him sitting in a lawn chair near the pool he had jumped in.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:13:40 PMThe fact that these comments went from saddness for the poor CHILD burned to a Christian Muslim debate is largely why these types of things a happening in this country. This crime had nothing to do with racial difference it had to do with the lack of social skills provided to the youth of america. our children don't even know how to comunicate with each other without using violence. This is the fault of the adults who have failed to realize that without these vital skills our children do not know how to deal with conflict, dissapointment, or even success. When was the last time children were allowed to be children and interact with one another without the watchful eye of a controlled enviroment. A vital part of human development is to learn from each other, cant do that if we are setting each other on fire over a video game. What do these children's parents have to day for themselves.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:23:23 PMI pray that this young man survives this dreadful situation. I don’t know what is wrong with the people in this country. These are kids for Christ’s sake. Sadly, much will depend on whether Michael pulls through and that the damage those kids afflicted on him does not take his life. This is horrible situation from a legal standpoint. It will be interesting to see how these boys fare in court. None of them has hired private counsel as of yet, nor do I think any of them will. The families are indigent, so the taxpayers will bear the burden of the defense of these young men. That aside, it is going to be a free-for-all in the media and it is going to be very difficult to find a jury that isn’t tainted by the time these little monsters are up for pretrial motions. The alleged instigator of the alleged crime will be tried as an adult. There will be a public outcry is he is tried as a child, and district attorneys don’t like public outcries. The others were bystanders and did not contribute to the act, therefore their charges are going to be much less severe. What will be interesting to see is how they charge the one that allegedly doused Michael with alcohol. Out of four elements that we use to decide if a person has committed murder or attempted murder, this young man has covered two. The first being the killing or attempted killing that resulted from the intent to do serious bodily injury, and the second a killing or attempted killing that resulted from a depraved heart or extreme recklessness. Those two strikes, such as they are, do not make for an easy defense. That is not a good thing for him. So he will likely be charged as an accessory to attempted murder or maybe murder three. His alleged act of dousing the boy with rubbing alcohol was done with premeditation and malice in his intent to harm the boy, which is why his alleged crime is just as heinous an act as the little shit that allegedly flicked the lighter at him and set him ablaze.
In the jurisprudence of this country, all of the youngsters must be tried for their crimes. It keeps “the machine” oiled. It is easy to want to throw them all under a bus, and frankly, I don’t know if the world would be less of a place if that were to happen. I see the courts being lenient on the two alleged perpetrators. Expert testimony from a doctor in good standing that the boys are insane will essentially set these young men free. They won’t need to worry about a jury if the judge decides they are unfit for trial. I have seen some mean kids in my day, but these dudes are at the top. This is a grotesque crime. Incidentally, most crimes like these are committed by mentally ill children with no grasp of the scope of their acts. After looking at the picture of one of the young men, the elder brother, I think insanity will be his ace in the hole. Scary, scary eyes. However, the person who will ultimately be cooked for this is the young man who allegedly ordered the others to engage in the act. He allegedly orchestrated the actions of the others, telling the one to douse Mike with the alcohol and standing idly by as the other tossed the lighter. I have read no news report since it happened where there has been no mention of the “Bent” boy ordering the other kids to do what they did. I would not want to have to be involved in this case.
On a personal note, I have read a lot of these posts, and I think it is pathetic that none of you has anything constructive to say, but in verity have the nerve to turn this into a sociogenic religious incident. Some of you have gone so far as to indict Muslims, and some have started in on Christianity. We wonder why it is that we are the laughing stock across the world and why we are always the brunt of jokes abroad. It is because these types of discussions don’t occur in Europe and in the east. They just don’t. Sure Europe and the east have problems, but not like this, and certainly don’t have people react the way we Americans do. I understand why people abroad are so shaken by this situation. In the wake of a terrible tragedy, we have mud slinging in the name of religion, race, ethnicity, and political affiliation; do you all not see something wrong with that? I think I will step up and let everyone know that I don’t think God gives a damn about your affiliations, nor do I think he endorses any of your positions on the issue at hand. Your pretentious, self-important back and forth on this forum is sickening. Go and blather to people who give a damn. Spend a few moments thinking about the victim of this senseless crime, and then you can go back to your hate mongering.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 10:58:27 PMBecause two of the five attackers are black, this is somehow the president's fault, Jim? C'mon, how do you put presidential politics in an incident involving violent, stupid kids?
Coincidentally, the only kid to show remorse, according to deputies, is the Latino kid that actually set Michael on fire. The rest of them thought it was amusing, including the two white brothers. I don't think this has anything to do with race, otherwise we're gonna have to start talking about how the two white attackers reflect upon the inferiority of us white people.
Posted 10/15/2009 at 11:33:27 PMAll 5 of the kids names were published in the paper. They are from Deerfiel Beach , Florida. Their address are accessible through ZABASEARCH.com. A bomb being sent to each of their families is in the works...BOOM!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 12:16:44 AMi was just comenting on someone elses post about race. all of these boys are inferior to their race. to the human race. by talking about race and the president i was simply referring to prior posts. and i never said its the presidents fault, once again just showing my opinion on other posts.
But i didnt intentionally mean to get side tracked, idc if these are kids. what they did is so disgusting and makes my stomach turn. they should all be locked up for good. and showing remorse should make any difference in his sentence? first of all how do we know its not an act. he lit a living being on fire..he obviously does not care. he has no morals, conscience or right to life. all of these boys are the scum of society and deserve no respect or sympathy. i hope they get whats coming to them.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 01:00:57 AMI hope this poor bastard dies, and quickly too.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 02:44:13 AM15 is awfully young, to be sentenced to life as
a hideous, boogeyman-looking freak with the sexual
attractiveness of a pig's fart due to pizza-like
scars all over your face/body. (I knew a guy who got burned like this kid, it ruined HIS life and he was 41 years old! He'd gotten to sow his oats at least!) And one can only
guess at what a revenue source this kid will be
for the psychiatric "profession" and its useless drugs; I'll bet the local shrinks in his area have dollar signs flashing in their eyes at this very moment.
As for the kids responsible, let them be tried
as adults; being forced to do the "tube steak
boogie" (after having all their teeth knocked out
beforehand)with some 35-year-old lifer ought to
encourage an "attitude adjustment" in these punks.
(Sorry if that pisses off any moonbat liberals
here.)
Why are Sharpton and Jackson not in the news screaming that this is a hate crime?
Posted 10/16/2009 at 04:34:16 AMthe perpetrators were neither Muslims nor Christians. they are devils at work and their evil deeds were beyond reproach,just think of it those devils were AMERICAN CITIZENS! SHAME ON YOU!!!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 07:51:49 AMI pray for the family of the injured boy and hopes he makes it. But for the other boys they should be tried as adults and punished to the fullest. No matter of age or race, the fact that they can committ a crime and know what they were doing and knew what could happen, they should be sent to prison. I'm tired of hearing about 13 to 18 year old kids that commit crimes knowing what they are doing is a crime and the kid gets off easy because he is "just a kid." I think that something should be done, they should all be in prison for the horrible crime they committed.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 08:32:28 AMBree: Nothing should be said about religion me and samantha both agree bringing religion into this is stupid. I know there are alot of different religions and all of them have people who dont follow the rules. it isnt just one religion. To hear what some of you are sayin is offensive. You shouldnt be say "religion" is the cause even if you havent done something this bad i am sure you all have done something you shouldnt have, we all have. All I can Say is I pray for Michael Brewer And I am so addin him as my bffl on myspace. He needs all of us and we should be there for him.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 10:33:19 AMSamantha: What I have to say its as long as bree but I pray for michael brewer good luck with keepin health and get better
I think the boys should go to jail for 6 years and that boy did not desreved to be treated like that for doing the right thing i think thats just really stupid of thoses boys if i was the judge i would put them ugly boys in jail for 6 years and prese BIG chareges on them STUPID boys.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 10:44:47 AMPeople, PLEASE stop bickering about religion! It is beside the point, beside the point, beside the point! The arguments won't help Michael. Right now he needs your prayers if you are religious, and your good thoughts and wishes if you aren't. And any one of us, no matter what our views on religion, can send him a get-well card or make a small donation towards his medical expenses. Or copy the information below and email it to everyone you know. Make it your Facebook status. This boy needs to know that others care about him even if we've never met him. The holidays are approaching and he will be in the hospital for Thanksgiving and Christmas for sure. Please reach out to him and his family. Thank you.
To make donations:
• call the family spokesman Danny Martinez at 561-574-7131 or
• Bank of America and Jackson Memorial Foundation have set up a fund in Brewer's name. Donations are being accepted at any Bank of America branch, and the Jackson Memorial Foundation can be reached at (305) 355-4999.
Michael Brewer
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Public Relations Office
1611 NW 12th Avenue
Miami, FL 33136
Thank you very much.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:06:03 AMMary P.
From the Miami Herald:
"The cost of all this care is, for now, an afterthought, as Namias described it. But ultimately, it will become a factor Michael's uninsured family will have to face.
``I don't know what the total would come to,'' Namias said. ``Any twist or turn in his condition will change things.''
At the very least, the cost will run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, he said. And it may end up being even higher than that."
Hopefully the hospital will waive some fees.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:42:47 AMjudging from the nature of the comments here, all the bashing of other people's religious beliefs and encouraging of a boy whose life is hanging by a thread to waste the rest of that life perpetuating his own misery by seeking vindication and revenge rather than moving on as best he can and finding some purpose, some solice for himself. Using the devestation brought upon one innocent person and his unfortunate family to push your own agendas onto one another . . .
You'll be lucky if your own kids don't set someone on fire.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:43:38 AMFor those of you posting comments like "should have jumped in the pool(sooner I imagine is what you are implying since that is just what he did)are kind of dimwitted. If he had jumped in the pool immediatly he would still have incurred severe burning. Imagine the last time you touched a hot stove, curling iron, iron etc. You pulled your hand (or whatever) away fantastically quick and yet were still left with ,minmally, second degree burn. This poor kid was screwed the minute the alcohol was lit on fire no matter how quick his actions were. I wonder if you can even fathom the amount of pain this boy was in AND still had come up with his quick thinking of jumpiong in the pool.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:52:51 AMMy heart and my prayers go out to him and his family.
Those boys involved should _All__ be tried with attempted homicide, not just the one who lit his body on fire. They should all also be tried as adults. They knew what they were doing. They weren't retarded. I am sure each and everyone of them had had a minor burn somewhere along their body in the past. They knew what burning someone up would do.
I think the 3 guys who did this should not be put in jail they should be lighted on fire and burned alive!!! They need to feel like michael did!!!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 12:10:16 PMthere are rules amongst criminals....no children is one. with luck they'll be tried as adults and get theirs in the end. prison broom handles are thick and the blades sharp.........karma is always there, prowling to get hers.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 12:15:46 PMThose five boys must be related to TYLER WEINMAN, the cat killer. Put all 6 of them in a cell together, they can skin and flame each other.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 12:18:48 PMThis story is sad, and reminds me of a friend of mine that was killed.
He turned himself in for stealing (because his father made him do the right thing), and part of the deal was to tell who he was with when they stole car stereos. So he did. The other kids were arrested. He was beat up. Then on another occassion when he was with his supposed "best friend", he was taken to a clifside field, beat up again, choked with a guitar string, stabbed in the throat with a stick, and then thrown over the clif to try to hide what they had done.
It is the parents of these children that need punished and these children/adults need jailtime AND extensive psychological therapy to see what is in their mind.
Anyone else who takes this in a religious context is just bullshit... I am christian and it is in my opinion that this has to do with the way our children are raised these days, and the lack of care that parents give them.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 01:18:50 PMWTF does religion got to do with this you F'n Idiots. Kids today are f'd up. the sad part of it is,the kid ,if he doesnt die will be in tramendous pain for a long time and then try and live a normal life with the scares that will remind him every day of that horrible incident,and the kids who did it will all be on the street by time they are 18,if they are locked up at all. surprised no one has labeled this a hate crime, a white boy attacked by black/spanish kids!! if it was a black boy attacked by white kids,jesse jackson be all over this regardless of the reason for the act. either way the kids are animals and their parents are no f'n better. kids arent born fuck'd up,they are raised to be that way
Posted 10/16/2009 at 01:42:05 PMAll five of these boys should be sentenced to death.....let all of them see what torture they caused to mikey......Send everyone of them to the grave!!!!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 01:49:42 PMThis incident is a sickening trend in our society. Kids killing and burning other kids for any little thing. The first place we need to look at is the home. What kind of parents are raising these kids? I know as a parent you can teach your kids one way and they can always go another, but you need to know the type of kids you have. It's amazing to me that two mom's have come out saying they just don't know how their kids could be involved or they were at the wrong place at the wrong time. REALLY, then why do all 5 kids have juvenile records already???? HELLO, they do not have these records for being good KIDS. Parents need to take off their blind folds when it comes to their kids and realize what there kids are really capable of. Honestly, I think the parents of these kids should be held accountable and these kids should be tried as adults. There sure appears to be intent to harm and even kill another human being.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 01:55:03 PMIt's so upsetting to see such animalistic behavior from little chilrdren...but then again they are animals. They are not fit for human life. They deserve the fullest prosecution of the law.I pray for Michael and his family. May G-d have mercy on those son's of bitches.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 02:09:56 PMi have been hearing a lot of people calling for the death penalty..this would not do justice. these kids would be getting off so easy with that. i hope they live long miserable lives in prison. i hope they are beaten and ridiculed by the inmates and then i hope they all burn in hell. this is the most disgusting thing ive ever heard. i heard someone call for 6 years in prison..are you kidding me? and then let these little monsters back out on the street? im sorry but you cant rehabilitate crazy sadistic emotionless people.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 02:15:24 PMThe parents of these teens,should be ashamed of their selfs,these kids should be are animals
Posted 10/16/2009 at 02:48:47 PMParents along with the kids should be put away.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 03:14:52 PMIt has everything to do with Religion or the lack thereof.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 03:38:00 PMHow you treat each other, the respect you give each other, the love we give each other. Starts at home. The trial should start with the parents. Everyone should come away with this with a new meaning of the word family and what it mean to be a family. Turn to your children, your son your daughter and tell them you love them, ask them how there day went, and let them know God loves them.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU PRAYED AS A FAMILY?
DON'T KNOCK IT IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT.
WE AS A NATION NEED MORE PRAYER.
OUR CHILDREN NEED MORE PRAYER.
AND MIKEY NEEDS OUR PRAYER.
AMEN AND GOD BLESS
He did just into the pool, dipshits!
I just listened to the 911 tapes and he is screaming in agony right next to the woman on the phone. It was so so horrible to listen to. She said his skin was peeling off. I have kids and all I could imagine is that being one of my sons. This is such a fuc*ed up world that we live in.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 03:50:14 PMI hope and pray Michael will be ok. As for the kids responsible, you should be tried as ADUTS and face the most maximum sentence possible. You deserve whatever you get and then some.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 04:14:00 PMMary said:
"It's so upsetting to see such animalistic behavior from little chilrdren"
I don't think animals would do that to each other. I would call their behavior inhuman though. I hope they try all of them as adults and they spend many many years in prison, hopefully dying there.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 04:22:53 PM@Ron
Before you make a fool of yourself and "state facts" that you do not know, READ ALL OF THE GIVEN INFORMATION; two of the kids that did this are WHITE. So they are not ALL black, and this is not a "hate crime". Inform yourself before acting like an idiot.
In fact, this goes for everybody who chooses to make assumptions and "statements" about false information. Read the article and previous posts which correct misinterpretations and false claims BEFORE your make your own comments.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 04:42:42 PMCorrection on my last post...I meant to say that they were not all black OR HISPANIC.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 04:43:45 PMI like how the parents of the kids say that they were in the wrong place and the wrong time. Oh yeah, that's right it is everyone elses fault again. That's why we have racism in this country. Some people can't own up to their actions or their kids' actions. My parents would have disowned me!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 05:24:40 PMPut all 5 of those little fuckers in prison. and tell their parents to step their shit up!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 06:04:53 PMHow can anyone joke about this ? Because its not your kid its easy to make rude comments ? Now I can see why kids act out like they do because of rude and selfish adult that teach these kids to not CARE..... This is the worse story I have heard in years.. My heart goes out to the family....Something has to be done before the next kid is someone you know or are related to.. I heard the tapes and broke down.. A little boy screaming for his life.... How horrible is that.... The Jokes and Rude comments are horrible and if you dont Care then keep to yourself....STOP commenting on something you dont care about..... This boy and his family needs all the positive thoughts they can get right now....
Posted 10/16/2009 at 06:13:13 PMi am DISGUSTED by some of these comments.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 06:40:50 PMReligion has nothing to do with this.
A kid gets set on fire by a bunch of other kids and people are worrying about religion and feeling sympathetic for the kids who set the poor boy on fire?!
my heart goes out to the boy and his family. but all of those ridiculous comments,
you all are very small minded.
and god help this country. if this is what its turning into...?
violence like this happens because that's all kids see. first person video games. violent tv shows. violent movies. violent parents. it never ends. couple that with the fact that there is no accountability by these kids (the lawyer pleading that his client was traumatized by the incident and should be at home with his family?!?!? hahahaha. A for effort you land shark.) and what do you get? kids perpetuating violence against with one another with no conscious and/or belief that anything will happen to them because of their actions.
ALL the boys who were part of this little gang need to be punished. this was attempted murder. they should all be held accountable for that. they knew what they were doing if they knew that alcohol could be lit on fire.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 07:01:35 PMCannot believe some of the sad stuff I am reading. A young man has suffered horrific and life-threatening burns and some of you yahoos use this forum to discuss religion?
Posted 10/16/2009 at 07:37:44 PMCan you not simply pray for his recovery ( if you are a believer)or send positive thoughts via cards, letters or a magic genie. I really don't care what you do or do not believe, just think positive thoughts for Michael. As far as the little monsters that were responsible for this heinous act, hope they rot in hell. The att'y for the youngest is claiming his miserable sod of a client must be released as he is crying all the time and needs to be with his parents. BOLLOCKS!!!! The little sh*t needs frontier justice.
I can't believe that a person can comment and blame video games and television for the violence and in the same comment praise the Bible as if it takes some type of moral high ground. The Bible contains plenty of gruesome and disgusting violent and sexual acts that is fit for no child.
Religious fanatics have caused more pain, suffering and genocide than any group of people in human history. Not to mention violence is condoned in the Bible so long as it is your god's will. For crying out loud, your god wiped out the whole planet once in a flood because he had a hissy fit. I feel sorry for all who kiss the ass of any fictional, sadomasochistic, bipolar and vindictive god just because they think it will send them to a magical fairy tale land when they die.
Every time I read a comment from a religious dumbass praising the Bible, I lose faith in humanity. Promote critical thinking and leave the hocus pocus bullshit alone. We're not in the Bronze Age anymore people; no excuses.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 07:42:11 PMOctober 16th, 2009 12:38 pm ET
I am outraged by this story! I am sick to my stomach just thinking about this horrible tragedy! Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now? What about a Colilition out of Washington putting together a plan for delinquents who are violent and need to be re-programed!
Posted 10/16/2009 at 07:52:46 PMI say put them away and throw away the key! Now are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson ralleying threw the streets on behalf of this poor young man, No I doubt it! Are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson standing by this boys family and showing them support? No, I doubt it! Michael Brewer, “America is behind you”, don’t give up……………
This is because of video games and tv? quite honestly thats one of the stupidest things ive ever heard. That is such a ridiculous cop out by people..maybe its because theyre sadistic emotionless pitiful excuses for human beings and do not belong in society.
also i hate to talk about religion but it does help. i am by no means a devout christian but i dont understand how people can hate christianity. regardless of your beliefs it teaches morals and right from wrong. regardles of whether or not there is a god or higher being it teaches people to better themselves and to be kind loving people. if these 5 children were brought up to believe things like that this never would have happened. im not trying to make this a religious debate but had the parents brought their children up loving them and teaching them right from wrong and in many ways christian beliefs theres a good chance this wouldnt have happened. im sorry for talking about religion but i couldnt help but comment upon the fact that if they had been brought up in thata manner this may not have happened.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 08:35:20 PMWhy were 15 year olds still in middle school and in the seventh grade? It seems that there is something wrong with the fact that these kids being too old to be in this setting. Just wondering.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 08:35:55 PMHopefully, Michael Brewer can learn something significant from this experience, should he survive:
1.) If you create a debt, pay it; no excuses.
2.) Don't snitch on your friends when they try to get back what you owe them.
He stiffed his friend and then ratted him out when he tried to even the score. I'm not saying the punishment justifies the crime, but it was by no means unprovoked. Michael should have known he had at least an ass kicking coming to him for screwing his friends over. They just took it to a whole 'nother level.
Maybe the defendant can take Michael's parents to small claim's court and have that $40 granted to him to pay for his commissary while he's locked up.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 08:55:57 PMWhat is the world coming to when are own childern start attacking and killing eachother like its some "big game", but shit like this happens and no one knows what to do then let the community deal with him and then i hope that all 5 go to jail .. and if were lucky "death row" .. but all this will not Brewer my prays goes with his mother and a get recovering to him ...... and hell to does 5 kids.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 09:35:10 PMomg i cry because i had a child im sad this kids are crazy i just feel the mom pain my prays goes to the family all my love x u guys
Posted 10/16/2009 at 10:05:35 PMDayum, you are a sick, sick individual blaming a 15 year old and basically justifying burning someone to death (because it's not looking good for his survival right now). People like you are the reason that monsters like this exist.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:14:01 PMThis is a horrible, senseless crime. I just heard about this story while watching one of those primetime news shows. The Sun Sentinel has the audio of the 911 call. I listened to it and could not hold back tears. Listening to that little boy screaming for help after being set on fire is heart breaking.
The 5 accused boys need to be punished. Also, since they are all juveniles, their mothers, fathers, and/or guardians should be held responsible for the bills, expenses and medical care Michael is going to need for a long time and possibly the rest of his life.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Brewer family. Stay strong and unified.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 11:18:14 PMInformation on how to help Michael Brewer, the Deerfield Beach boy who was burned.If you were as horrified to hear about the story of the burned Deerfield boy as i was and feel com...pelled to help, below is a link to information about how to donate to his recovery fund. Please pass it on.
http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/extra/MI133991/Read MoreMake a donation for Michael Brewer's recovery fund - Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Channel 7 News Fox WSVN
Posted 10/17/2009 at 12:00:45 AMSource: www.wsvn.com
South Florida News Station - Miami - Fort Lauderdale - Channel 7 - WSVN
ANYONE SEEN Al SHARPTON OR JESSE JACKSON? MY BAD, THE BOY IS WHITE HE DOESN'T COUNT FOR A HATE CRIME..............
---->Dayum, You yourself are probably guilty of senseless crimes of sort. But hey I'm not the one that you will have to face in the end, good luck with that. I'll be passing you on the way up. Anyone want to bet that they get away with it?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 12:11:38 AMDid dude ever get his 40 bucks back?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 01:08:56 AMlittle assholes!!
Posted 10/17/2009 at 02:39:57 AMloop said:
the first thing i did when i woke up was turn on the tv and the they were talking to michael's mom and i found out what had happend i thought to my self why! why! i feel so bad for the familys i will pray for all of them
this situation really hits me hard so sad
It affect you because YOU are a humain being...
Posted 10/17/2009 at 03:56:17 AMMaybe we should go back to segregated schools.....I think our forefathers were on to something.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 07:55:37 AMthese boys should be punished for what they did, they are not children and should be tried as adults!!! laughing just makes it worse. what is wrong with these people?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:22:21 AMDayum you are sick and twisited..nobody cares what you have to say!! TRUST ME. This poor child is suffering in so many ways and all you can say is he should've paid the 40 dollars. Stop speaking you are stupid!
Posted 10/17/2009 at 12:14:54 PMBefore making another stupid comment about religion or racisim please listen to the 911 tape. This is all about how horrific this crime was and how much Michael did suffer that afternoon and will suffer for the rest of his life. Hearing the tape I could not help but to cry...You can hear his gut wrenching screams for help. Close your eyes while listening to the call and imagine being Michael. The boys involved do not deserve to breath the same air I do and I hope their prison stay is long and PAINFUL. I hope they live in fear for their lives forever and burn in hell for eternity. I'm sick about this and wish I could do more. Stop using this to argue race, religion or morals. Use this space to wish Michael and is family well. I'm so sorry Michael you did not deserve this,you did the right thing!
Posted 10/17/2009 at 12:36:31 PMSince I live in the area, I hope to go to the trials and see what the monsters looks like. I hope they get the highest sentence possible by the law, and all but the 13 year old are tried as adults. You know these monsters walk among us, and it has nothing to do with race or religion. These monsters are hurting our children. We have to stop them.
These thugs were just ticking bombs waiting to go off. If it hadn't been MB it would have been someone else. We need to protect our kids from thugs such as these. From what I've heard all five had juvenile records. If so, they shouldn't even be allowed to go to a regular public school. There should be one central Boot camp school patrolled by the National Guard and with barbed wire. Local kids said they were not surprised by the actions of these sewer wastes.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 02:34:52 PMWhat make's me made is if this would have been a Black kid and five White kids did this it would be a big race thing and Jessie Jackson and all his followers would be all over the news. No but becouse it is the other way I have not seen anything about it since the first day, Like it just did'nt happen. Instead we have to here about some stupid hot air thing. I think the kids need to be burned the same way, and eye for and eye and see how funny it is then. I also do not think that tax mony should be used for a trial and then to pay for these kids to sit in a jail and have meals,books and beds to sleep on. That is what is wrong with this country we have to many dam do gooders.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:17:56 PMfirst,we,the barbarians from europe ,during our,so called crusades,learned. what we now consider our culture,especially,
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:39:14 PMthat hospitals could be places of healing,not the asylums,ours were, at that that time
second,much of what i have heard is that this was,primarily, a black on white attack.nothing is farther from the truth.a bully is a bully,period.i suspect that here are may who are relieved that these five thugs are locked away,atleast, for
the next few weeks.
third,all five must be tried as adults.since one is near sixteen,he could be free shortly and the others,soon after.
forth,michael fits the profile for a bully.at ,just recently,fifteen,small in stature,described as appearing to look more like eleven,with health,i understand,asthma and two grade years behind students of his age he was an ideal target.
fifth,i have many questions,after looking at aerials of lime tree,the pool is surrounded by the apartments.for the thugs to come upon michael by chance seems remote.that these five would just happen to come across a container of rubbing alcohol seems ,to me,a remarkable coincidence.i wonder if they,either bought it or just brought it with them,with the intent to do what they,apparently,did.this , my friends,would ,unquestionably, be firs degree.even if thy only decided to commit this act at the pool,any prior consideration as to carrying this act through,would constitute premeditation.in a first degree case all present are equally guilty.the thirteen year old should continue to cry,if he wants to.none of them should be released.
Everyone, if you are on Facebook, look for Nicole LoBasso and request her to be your Friend. She has made a FB page for Michael. They also have a MySpace page for him:
http://www.myspace.com/504034193
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:21:47 PMi thank them bots who did that to michael should pleaded as adults and sent to prison for the rest of there life
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:36:07 PMit is very sad how we resort to violence for any crimes against children. I AM NOT SAYING THAT WHAT THEY DID IS OK! i am saying that we should try them as adults and put them in prison for life
Posted 10/18/2009 at 05:15:07 PMand why are we making fun of paul and joe atheist and talking about religion and politices when this article is about a 13 year old boy being burnt by other teens we should only be talking about the article so STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS go to a different blog if you want to talk about this stuff
Posted 10/18/2009 at 05:20:29 PMWhy should we as taxpayers pay to raise them little A$$holes. I personally think we should just put a bullet in their head. This country has enough issues without raising criminals like them and thinking they can be saved. They are trash and should be taken out. I dont care what race they are.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:10:09 PMthis is a girl standing in class with like 12 other people. we all heard michaels story and we think it is so sad/ we would email him making sure he is ok but we dont think seeing as he is in the hospital and on a ventalatior that he will be able to respond. we hope that he gets better and that he will be able to see those other kids are put where they need to be. that is just so messed up. it was over a video game. the most that should have happened is the other kids saying just give us the money instead he gets set on fire?!?! what has come of this world i mean really.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 01:16:20 PMThis is the 911 call made that day.
WARNING: Shocking Audio
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0b3_1255955276
Posted 10/19/2009 at 02:44:58 PMThe world has become more horrible than I could imagine remembering back to when I was a young teen...the pranks and violence has become almost unthinkable. Video games are the evil culprit! Youth lack the moral compass to gage right from wrong and too often are desensitized by violent video games. Very sad! I pray these bullies are not acquitted but rather tried to the highest degrees as adults - NO RECOURSE!! Please - we need to ban together as a community and not turn a blind eye to injustice. These bullies premeditated the act and then committed the crime - NO SECOND CHANCES should be given to ALL the boys involved in this haneous crime...the law needs to get tougher, crack down on the bad guys; to protect the innocent and future lives of our children.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 02:47:26 PMThat's terrible. It doesn't surprise me if those youth delinquents come from fatherless homes.
Chances that a child commits crime or underperforms in school increases dramatically when they come from single-parent broken households.
There are too many broken homes with bastard children in america.
Equal Parenting is important to improve the next generation's upbringing.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 03:14:55 PMI read that they "came across" the bottle of rubbing alcohol, or something along those lines. I find it hard to believe they "came across" anything - very suspicious. Why a bottle of rubbing alcohol, so conveniently left out for them to "find"? Why not an empty soda can or cigarette butt or empty pack of cigarettes, or anything else that people find lying around? Of all the things for them to "find", it was a bottle of rubbing alcohol...and a somewhat filled one at that. Very convenient. Very suspicious.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 03:57:58 PMI love how the commenters on here are using this event to advance their opinions on Muslims and single mothers. Way to go, morons. You may have a point somewhere in there to be made, but do you really think this is the place for it? Keep that kind of hate and spite to yourselves, because it's just unseemly here posted beneath a story about a hateful, spiteful act.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 08:48:47 PM"The kid has been crying since the incident"
Well, boohoo kid, How does he think Michael feels?
How would he like to have his skin burned off and replaced with cadaver skin? I bet it isn't a pleasant experience.
He has a pretty damn cocky look on his face sitting in the courtroom for someone who has 'been crying'. He clearly thinks it's funny. In fact, they ALL look like they have some sort of look of accomplishment on their faces. They won't think it's funny when they are sentenced.
In another report, he was HELD DOWN and rubbing alcohol was dumped on him. They must feel like REAL tough guys holding down a 15yr old kid who is the size of an 11 yr old and lighting him on fire.
I also find it extremely hard to believe that these "innocent" kids just HAPPENED to find a bottle of rubbing alcohol laying on the side of the road.
NO, the kid called one of the others, and told them to grab something flammable, etc, and to get to the pool, and that's what he brought. Period. Does the kid smoke? why did he have a lighter?
Didn't these cops look at PHONE RECORDS?
This was clearly premeditated, and my heart goes out to the Brewer family.
PS: There has been a foundation set up for donations, you can find it by Googling it, and it IS legit, I already inquired at Bank of America (that's what they are using) before making a donation. If you have a doubt, just ask a bank employee, I am sure they are familiar with it.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 09:48:07 PMIf you want to "Take-Action" I recommend you write to State Attorney Michael J. Satz, Broward County Florida, requesting that he exercise is authority and prosecute all of these boys as adults for this horrific crime. As was posted in the paper, State Attorney Satz, has yet determined if he will seek prosecution for these boys as juveniles or adults. I believe they should all be prosecuted as adults.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 12:02:58 AMWhy is it that when something like this happens people are so quick to blame video games and how a child is raised??? My son went to school with michael and the kids that did this to him......the world needs to open their eyes!!!! A 15 year old boy is laying in the hospital with burns that are gonna scar him for the rest of his life and the best that people can come up with is that they had bad parents and they play to many video games....The fact of the matter is there is too much hate in this world....these posts prove it! I am a single mother raising a 13 year old boy! He is shown love everyday, he is payed attention to..He knows that he is loved and he knows that he can come and talk to me about anything! Yes I know that not every child has this but my point is that we can teach our children right from wrong and teach them to be good people and give them all the love and attention they need, but when its all said and done in these times......our kids have their own minds, no matter if we punish them, or spank them for things they have done wrong, they still have their own minds and their own way of thinking no matter what we have taught them! Someone posted and said that the "children" don't deserve to be tried as adults.....well they made the choice to set another "child" on fire! They were adult enough to plan out how they were gonna set him on fire! They were adult enough to stand there and watch him burn and laughed about it and did nothing to try and help him! They were adult enough to laugh about it and smile while being arrested!!!!!! So yes.....they committed an adult crime and should be charged as adults! Do you think that they should be let out? Let out so they can do these ADULT things again?? Maybe next time they will shot and kill someone,just remember this could have been your child! We all want to believe that our children could never be cold hearted, hateful, and spiteful! And to the one who said "There are too many broken homes with bastard children in america." Not ever home is broken because the father is not there.....did you ever think that maybe the home is better because the father isn't there! Not every child is a BASTARD because the father is not in the picture!!!!! Someone else said that the 911 call should have never been release to the public......if you havent heard it yet, listen to it!!!!!! Its a wake up call to the world, listen to that child scream and cry and scream how much it hurt and then after that if you can still say that those boys should not be tried as adults......then your just as cold hearted as those boys! Michael did not deserve to suffer that way!!!! my prayers are with you Michael and your family!
Posted 10/20/2009 at 12:38:03 AMThis does not have a thing to do with religion or race! It amazes me that the discussion has even gone there??!! A sad testament to where this country going.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 11:03:41 AMIt has to do with a culture that is regressing so quickly back to violence and murder as a form of conflict resolution that it's mind-boggling. It has to do with incredible cruelty and a lack of anything remotely resembling HUMAN respect for life,consciousness or compassion.
Then, we have Balloon Boy in the media, who we've heard about endlessly for the last 5 days and barely a mention of how Michael is doing. Another pathetic indicator of the state of our country.
The only comparison I think that might be appropriate for any mention of Muslim nations and ours is that (as someone stated before) because we have NO JUSTICE system just a LEGAL System, there is not an adequate deterant for this type of behavior. Maybe if we took these 5 out in the middle of the "town square" and "lit 'em up" this sh-- might stop! My prayers are with you Michael and your family.
LISTEN I ACTUALLY KNW MICKEY ;;
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ILY MICKEYY AND YOU CAN GET THREW THIS ;;
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I LOVE YOU MICKEYYY !!!!!
YOU CAN DO THIS !!!
FOR ALL MY OTHER 5 ONES YOU ALL KNEW BETTER JUST FROM GROWING UP IN THE SAME PLACE AS I DID I WOULD NEVER EVER DO THIS ...
One word comes to mind when I see the word "homeboys"...
Little trendy wannabee apartment complex "gangs" who don't have a clue. Maybe if you spent a LITTLE more time paying attention in school, instead of wandering around all hours of the night in your own little worlds thinking you're all some kind of badasses, your post would actually make some sense.
Was that even English?
Two phrases for you: Spell check and caps-lock. Learn to use them.
Your horrible grammar and blatant misspelling of any word that has more than 5 letters, or "mickeys" name only shows everyone how ignorant you are and why kids these days don't think before they do something stupid, or comprehend the whole "for every action there is an equal yet opposite reaction" theory.
Go ahead, everyone defend her by saying "shes only 15 blah blah". Her 'paragraph of a sentence' made no sense and was honestly painful to try to decipher and figure out what the hell she was trying to say.
As far as your "other 5"... Enjoy visiting them in PRISON, where hopefully THEY will be held down and have 'things' done to them against THEIR will. Hopefully they will be passed around the units like a pack of smokes and everyone will get a turn. Let them scream for help, or for their mommy or daddy. Guess what - I bet the guards will ignore everything. Why? because these little fucking ANIMALS deserve it.
Go read a book - if you can read, you twit.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 12:08:58 PMIf that had happened to my son, I would take action into my own hands. I'm tired of the complacency that has taken over American people. There is no such thing as zero tollerance and there should be. This kind of horrific crime should be unacceptable and therefore be punishable to the full extent. Did any of you hear the 911 call? Did the poor child's screams not move you? The pain he has gone through and will continue to go through is unimaginable. He'll be disfigured and the thugs who did this are charged as minors and will do a little time in juvi. They already had a criminal record. How many chances should we give? When I give multiple chances to my kids, they just continue to misbehave...why not, when they know they'll just get another chance.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 01:04:37 PMa-mom-who-does-her-job, I agree with you 100%, I too listened to the 911 call, it was horrible to listen to Michael scream and beg for someone to help him....zero tolerance is what we should expect in this case....nothing less.Michael has been in my thoughts and prayers non stop since I heard about this horrific act against him. I beg everyone to think of him often and pray for him every time you do...My God be with him and his loved ones.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 01:29:45 PMWe can all do things about this situation:
1. If you are religious, pray daily for God to heal Mikey quickly, for someone with means to step forward and pay his bills, and for the judge to come down hard on those 5 animals.
2. Send Mikey a get-well card. The address is in the above posts, several times. Just pick one up on your weekly trip to the store.
3. Donate something, even $50, toward Mikey's expenses. All Bank of America branches are taking donations for him.
4. Email everyone you know about Mikey's story and ask them to email everyone THEY know. Post it on your Facebook status. Get the word out to as many people as possible.
Remember that the holidays are coming, the Brewers are unemployed and uninsured, and Mikey will be in the hospital for at least 5 months minimum.
Thank you all very much.
Posted 10/20/2009 at 02:34:44 PMMary P, I agree with you 100%, however, I have a definite problem with one thing you brought up that I was not aware of. Well, not a problem, but a gripe, eh, same thing I suppose.
The parents are unemployed? Why does the father have a "$500 custom bicycle"?
Posted 10/20/2009 at 02:48:37 PMOne more:
5. If you want to "Take-Action" I recommend you write to State Attorney Michael J. Satz, Broward County Florida, requesting that he exercise is authority and prosecute all of these boys as adults for this horrific crime. As was posted in the paper, State Attorney Satz, has yet determined if he will seek prosecution for these boys as juveniles or adults. I believe they should all be prosecuted as adults.
WTF,
Don't ask me what he was doing with a $500 bicycle. I'm just repeating what I read in the papers. Put in "Michael Brewer's father unemployed" in any search engine and there you are.
Thanks again, everyone!
Posted 10/20/2009 at 03:02:23 PMAgreed "you guys"... what is more confusing is the Myspace link above. First the person who made the page posts a Facebook link THEMSELVES, and later puts up a message that it isn't them?
WTH is going on??
I saw a brief, short clip of the father. Looks like a REAL piece of work. No wonder he can't find a job. But I'm sure he would rather just ride around on his $500 bicycle. Great role model. Judging by the size of the mother, they aren't exactly starving.
The balloon boy story is looking more and more interesting by the minute....
Posted 10/20/2009 at 03:32:35 PMHere's your chance to "Take-Action" by supporting my petition:
Posted 10/20/2009 at 05:50:05 PMhttp://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
I found this. Sign it to help forcing justice! We all have important voices. And we must speak up! Thank you.
http://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
Posted 10/20/2009 at 06:10:04 PMheres a recording of the 911 call. it is VERY disturbing, you can clearly hear Michael screaming constantly while hes in the worst pain in his life, as his skin peels off. I personally want to find, torture, and kill all the 5 boys involved and their parents. No human being deserves such pain.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3c3_1255720796
Posted 10/21/2009 at 03:59:15 AMthis is preposterous and I think they should be dealt with according to the law to serve as deterrent to other kids that do not know what tolerance is all about.Then they should go for counselling
Posted 10/21/2009 at 05:37:42 AMthis is preposterous and I think they should be dealt with according to the law to serve as deterrent to other kids that do not know what tolerance is all about.Then they should go for counselling
Posted 10/21/2009 at 05:42:51 AMhey confused... your opinions are without merit. The size of his mother has nothing to do with the financial state of the household and i agree the father was a little "rough" looking but again this has nothing to do with why this happened or why they don't have medical insurance. Most families are struggling in these terrible economic times. Jobs are not plentiful and the price for medical insurance is incredible. Also the notion that children from single parent families are predisposed to being incorrigible is nonsense. Many single parents are raising good kids that end up very successful. And mentioning that the balloon boy is more interesting is ludicrous. This story should be make the headlines and not be overshadowed by some stupid family that pulled a hoax in hopes of getting a tv show? Come on what the hell is wrong with you. To all the single parents do the best you can and to Michael Brewer and his family out thoughts and prayers are with you. Those of us from Missouri wish you well and hope those monsters are tried as adults, found guilty and receive the proper punishment. Keep in mind public opinion should not convict them with angry comments but let our legal system make the decision. Remember when we vote for our judges and other state officials we are putting them in the position to make these calls and we have to hope that our justice system will actually hold them accountable as adults and serve the the appropriate sentence. In saying all that I know the justice system has let us down before but this should be an open and shut case, they did it, there is no reasonable doubt in this case and I hope the jurors hear the 911 tape. The 911 tape is shocking, I have never heard anyone in that much pain, maybe they should replay it for the boys eveyday in thier cells until it drives them mad. I really don't know how this story will play out..but please everyone that has used this forum to discuss matters that have nothing to do with case just stop...FIND YOUR OWN FORUM!
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:18:34 AMI really want to know where the FOUND the rubbing alcohol. Who just finds a full bottle of flammable liquid while on their way to confront someone they believe to have wronged them. I have found very strange things that have been discarded on the side of the road or in an alley but never rubbing alcohol. I believe that this must have been premeditated how else can you explain it. Coincidence? Rubbing alcohol and a lighter? Not buying it!
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:28:34 AMI have a nifty little idea for these animals.
Hopefully, they will be tried as adults, and all charged with attempted murder, assault, and whatever else they can throw in the pile to make sure they never get out. If they do, their "25 to life" sentence should include:
Once a week, the only time they get to see the light of day is when they are made to volunteer at a pediatric burn unit for 10-12 hours straight changing wound dressings, listening to how mommy threw a pot of hot water in their faces, etc. Maybe THEN they will see the damage they have caused, over and over and over again for the rest of their miserable, useless lives.
It would work out perfectly. There's 5 of them, and 5 weekdays. It would give a few nurses some much needed break time.
Heather - although you make a few good points, deep down we both know the legal system is flawed, these "elected officials" are useless, and these kids will get a slap on the wrist - because "that's how the law is written and this is the maximum allowable punishment". The laws themselves NEED to be re-written, as most date back DECADES when these kinds of things were unheard of.
In all do time, they will do something worse. It's happened time and time again with both kids and adults.
Lock them up, and throw away the key. End of story.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:36:47 AMEd, I agree that our law needs to be re-written, however that won't come in time to change what is already in place and make a difference in case. I agree that the whole system is flawed. I am hoping this case will prove that we can still have faith in our system, however if these boys don't get the proper punishment this will be the last straw for me and I will never believe our judicial can work. For the sake of Michael I pray the officials do the job they were put in place to do. Whatever argument the defense proposes cannot be enough to warrant that these kids need a "second" chance. Allowing them to live without 70% of their bodies burned is a second chance. I would, as many others, like to retaliate and harm them with my bare hands but somewhere you have to draw the line and leave it in the hands of our state officials and God.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:44:22 AMThose of you who mention counseling must believe in rehabilitation. Frankly these kids cannot be changed, this was a violent, premeditated attack with aggravating circumstances..like setting him on fire and leaving him to die. I believe ALL of the boys committed this act and no amount of tears, confessions or begging will change my mind. One mother commented her boy(involved in burning someone alive) was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You think so..No way he knew where they were going and participated in what they did and left him behind to die. To the families of the boys who did this STOP the excuses and DEAL with what your son(s) did!!!!!!!!
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:51:01 AMHeather, quite a few other people, including myself are questioning the "finding" of a bottle of rubbing alcohol too.
The post above (Brandon) suggested that the kid called (my bet is text messaged) the other kids (all who happened to be home from school too?) and told them to grab anything flammable. CLEARLY premeditated.
As you said, I myself have seen some strange things on the side of the road, but never a bottle of rubbing alcohol.
They either took it from home, or stopped at a local CVS / Walgreens and paid the 99 cents for it.
They need to subpoena all of these kids phone records, find out WHO supplied the alcohol, visit local stores, look at tapes, and charge them to the same degree as the one who flicked the lighter.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 09:57:16 AMEd.. if I'm not mistaken you have to be 18 to buy spray paint at the local Kmart, don't you think it might be them same with rubbing alcohol..what kid buys rubbing alcohol and if they do for what. If a teenager is allowed to buy flammable liquids like rubbing alcohol and lighter fluid then someone should impose the same law they do to spray paint and require the individual to be 18. Spray paint is less harmful than rubbing alcohol when put on someone's body.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 10:01:44 AMHeather, I'm not sure about the rubbing alcohol buying age either.
It still raises the question, was it just a coincidence that ALL of these kids just HAPPENED to be home from school??
This is starting to sound more and more like this kid was setup from the very beginning - "hey, wanna hang out - meet me at the pool", and the kid who stole the bike just HAPPENS to be there, and the other just HAPPEN to show up, with the bottle of alcohol they HAPPENED to find?
Posted 10/21/2009 at 10:07:58 AMLISTEN EVERYONE THT IS COMMENTING YES I UNDERSTAND THT EVERYONE FEELS BAD FOR MICHEAL BT HE IS MY ACTUAL FRIEND AND SOO ARE THE 5 THT DID IT FOR THOSE YOU ARE SAYING THT THE 5 SUSPECTS SHOULD DIE OR BE KILT NO THEY FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT IT ;; MICHEAL AND THE 5 SUSPECTS AND I ARE ALL REALLY GOOD FRIENDS THEY ALL REGRET DOING IT AND IT WASNT INTETIONAL JUST TO LET ALL YOU KNW JESUS MENDEZ THE KID THT FLICKED THE LIGHTER HE DIDNT FLICK IT ;; EVERYTHING THT YOU ARE HEARING IS ALL NOT THE REAL STORYYY I TALKED TO THE BOYS BEFORE THEY GOT ARRESTED EVERYTHING THT IS ON ALL THE NEWS WEBSITS THE REPORTS ARE ALL NOT TRUE AND JESUS HAS BURNS ON HIS ARMS YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THEM AND THEY FEELLL HORRIBLE ABOUT IT ALL ;; SOOO FOR ALL THOSE SAYING THEY SHOULD DIE THEY KNW THEY MESSED UP AND THEY ARE SOO SORRYA ND WE ALL LOVE MICKEYYY ;;
MICKEYY YOU CAN GET THREW THIS !!!
ILY MICKEYYY ;;
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:05:19 AMed, You and I have the same questions. I think I will call Walgreens, Cvs and Kmart to find out if the impose an age limit on purchasing flammable liquids. If they don't they ought to start. This case should be used as an element to change some laws and put better practices in place to prevent another horrific incident.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:05:38 AMBrittany,
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:06:53 AMBrittany, as previously stated, learn to turn off your caps lock. Typing in all capital letters doesn't make your idiotic point any stronger, it only makes you look stupid.
They feel "horrible" about it, and "regret doing it"? Why are they laughing and giggling in the court room? They knew exactly what they were doing, and they think it's funny.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:12:22 AMBrittany,
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:21:08 AMIf you were the one who was burnt I bet you wouldn't be defending those boys. Due to your age I don't think you are in touch with big picture. Although I find it loyal to stand behind friends but what sensible person, child or adult could set someone on fire and walk away? Now if they stayed, realized what a mistake they made, tried to put him out and called 911 I would consider them somewhat human. But to walk or run away why? why? why? why? Besides just because you go to school with these boys doesn't constitute friendship. Stop defending them they are WRONG and nothing they do will ever replace his skin, nothing they say will erase the pain and no punishment the receive will remove the lifetime scars. So as quick as you are to tell us they didn't really mean it ask yourself how you would feel burning, blistering, screaming, watching your skin melt off your hands and torso, laying in a hospital bed on a ventilator, only being able to move your eyes in response to your mothers' voice and spending the rest of your life as a disfigured person who will be stared at and shunned because you look different. Imagine trying to do daily activities with fused toes or fingers..what is wrong with you? Don't say get better Michael and follow that up with a defense for you so called friends! I wouldn't even admit I ever thought of them as friends. I would be ashamed to be affiliated with people that are monsters with no conscious. If these are the people you hang out with are your future looks bleak! STOP TELLING US HOW YOU ARE GOOD FRIENDS WITH THESE SO CALLED HOMEBOYS!
LISTEN THIS IS FOR "WOW" BITCH YOU DNT KNW ME OR ANY OF MY FRIENDS GET OUT OF HER WITH YOU SMARTY ASS I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHT YOU THINKK ;;
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:24:33 AMMY 5 FRIENDS FEEL SOO BAD YOU DNT UNDERSTANT ;;;
AND MICKEYYY ILY AND IMY SOO MUCHHH !!!
YOU CAN GET THREW THIS !!!
By the way you say sorry when you accidentally do something to someone. SORRY does not fix it, make it any better or heal the DAMAGE they caused (with forethought). To turn on someone you knew and went to school with is unimaginable and UNFORGIVABLE. NO amount of pathetic apologies will ever be enough. I don't want to hear I'm sorry, I want to here justice has been served.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:29:00 AMOkay yeah i understand my friends did mess up and they shouldnt of ran away yes they are my friends ive dated micheal 4 6month thank you and i dated Denver for a year untill i found out tht they are bad boys lol bt no i do feel bad for mickey soooo ;;;
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:29:07 AMokayyy yes i knw they were laughing bt not Jermey go to cbs4.com and read more...they are ashamed of them self as well as everyone else as of wht they did to micheal they knw they messed up and they cnt fix it no matter wht bt i do love mickey and i knw he can get threw this ;;
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:32:27 AMBrittany...your response just goes to show you have no idea what is going on. Calling me names won't help Michael and you are continuing to defend these boys maybe they will burn you next time, if there is a next time. Save your crap about sorry...they should've been sorry enough to put him out or call 911. You have alot of growing up to do..good luck and learn how to spell. Use this forum to she support for Michael..Do you think if he reads this he is going to agree with your claim of they are sorry. FAT CHANCE. I don't have to know you to know that you need a lesson on the ramifications of attempting to kill someone. Michael again wish you well and when you get better don't hang out with any of Brittany's friends they sound like thugs.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:34:01 AMHeather, don't waste your keystrokes on this little moron.
She would definitely be singing a different tune if it was HER who was HELD DOWN AND LIT ON FIRE, now wouldn't she?
Brittany,
If you're seriously the product of the local school system, your teachers need to be fired. You have the spelling and grammar skills of a 5 year old.
Speaking of, why aren't YOU in school??
"BITCH YOU DNT KNW ME OR ANY OF MY FRIENDS GET OUT OF HER WITH YOU SMARTY ASS I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHT YOU THINKK ;;"
Nice. Great upbringing you must have, to have SUCH respect for your elders. Mommy must be proud. Certainly explains the mindset of the other kids...
I would bet money that you're the favorite little slamhound of the gang, now aren't ya?
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:40:03 AMoh yes let me tell ya.
no im so worried about my friend Mickey i could actually careless about those other 5 .
people have came up to me and said yea thats nice what you friends did i said hell no its not mickey is in some bad condition and i told them to just drop it bt they didnt listen they are all little thugs not me just to let yopu all know im the role model of all of them thank you. sorry bout the lannguage im just said mad and people going all werid and stuff that all im doing is saying yea tehy did mess up and they know they did but NO it doesnt matter heather is correct they know they did do wrong and sorry is never going to make anything better. I dont need NO growing up to do im 16 years old and i stand where my age is . i feel soo abd for mickey no one can even find out i cry my self to sleep that knowing what could be going on outside my window . you people have no clue .
ily mickeyyy ;;
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:52:53 AMYES I DO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON !!!!!
Posted 10/21/2009 at 11:55:09 AMNOT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE REAL STORY !!!!
JUST DROPP IT !!!
Paul - you wrote 'if this were a muslim culture i'd understand' ... you my dear are very ignorant. Apparently there is a lot you DO NOT understand, this happened here in America with non Muslims.... has nothing to do with Religion it has to do with children committing crimes beyond most peoples wildest imaginations. Get educated my friend... it may help you sound intelligent.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 01:21:56 PMBrittany,
"I dont need NO growing up to do im 16 years old and i stand where my age is ."
You claim to be some kind of "role model", well, birds of a feather flock together. You continue to spell his name as if he was Mickey Mouse. You also have YET to make a point, nor form a legible sentence. Don't you realize that ebonics isn't a real language? Yes, you DO need to grow up.
Do you talk like in person? Do you say "dis and dat" or greet each other with "yo" and do some moronic hand shake? Do you constantly use double negatives in sentences?
You have a bright future ahead of you, let me tell ya. Clean up on isle three.
Go play at the kiddie pool dear, adults are talking here. Try not to get lit on fire though. Apparently it's the new trendy / funny thing to do to your "friends", right?
You're an idiot.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 01:35:35 PMI heard the 911 today and couldn't stop crying!!! It will take too long for the monsters to recieve justice!!! TURN THEM LOOSE and let's see what happens to the tough guys
Posted 10/21/2009 at 01:49:36 PMThe real scary part is that kids are being so hateful younger and younger. Where are the parents in all of this?What examples are they seeing? what guidence are they getting. Not only did they do such a horrible thing...They are still making jokes of it, not even remorsful. They should be tried as adults. My thought and prayers are with michael and his family....with all the families involved.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 04:11:41 PMI am writing again because this story is all I think about. I was driving home from work this evening and I saw a group of boys the same age group and the first thing I thought was when did kids go from riding their bikes and hanging out to setting someone on fire. My heart hurts and my thoughts frustrate me. I just wish the judicial system would let us know if the boys involved are going to be charged as adults. Once that is confirmed then all we have to do is wait for sentencing. I can't stop thinking about Michael. The closest story I ever followed was the Terry Shivo case and that case had the same heart wrenching affect on me. You can go to mbrewer.epetitions.net and sign the petition stating you want them tried as adults. As a community we need to make the right steps to ensure the right outcome. Please sign the petition. Thank you ahead of time.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 06:53:40 PMThe following is a post from a 15 year old girl who claims they all were her friends...I find it disturbing.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 06:57:08 PMLISTEN EVERYONE THT IS COMMENTING YES I UNDERSTAND THT EVERYONE FEELS BAD FOR MICHEAL BT HE IS MY ACTUAL FRIEND AND SOO ARE THE 5 THT DID IT FOR THOSE YOU ARE SAYING THT THE 5 SUSPECTS SHOULD DIE OR BE KILT NO THEY FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT IT ;; MICHEAL AND THE 5 SUSPECTS AND I ARE ALL REALLY GOOD FRIENDS THEY ALL REGRET DOING IT AND IT WASNT INTETIONAL JUST TO LET ALL YOU KNW JESUS MENDEZ THE KID THT FLICKED THE LIGHTER HE DIDNT FLICK IT ;; EVERYTHING THT YOU ARE HEARING IS ALL NOT THE REAL STORYYY I TALKED TO THE BOYS BEFORE THEY GOT ARRESTED EVERYTHING THT IS ON ALL THE NEWS WEBSITS THE REPORTS ARE ALL NOT TRUE AND JESUS HAS BURNS ON HIS ARMS YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THEM AND THEY FEELLL HORRIBLE ABOUT IT ALL ;; SOOO FOR ALL THOSE SAYING THEY SHOULD DIE THEY KNW THEY MESSED UP AND THEY ARE SOO SORRYA ND WE ALL LOVE MICKEYYY ;; It wasn't intentional is the craziest thing I have ever heard..What is wrong with girl?
oh ED thanks for backing me up...you sound like a good man. Hope to hear your thoughts after a long days work.
Posted 10/21/2009 at 06:58:51 PMThe laws need to change in this country. But first things first. All 5 boys, every one of them was involved in surrounding Michael so, all 5 boys need to have their clothes soaked alcohol and they need to be set on fire. Wonder if that would teach them? We are too damn easy on people in this country. That Smith woman who strapped her kids in their car seats, then rolled the car into a lake where those babies drown should be strapped in a car and pushed into a lake. Being in prison is too good for her. There are many many examples of horrible crimes in this country ... this one has to be the worse. Burn those boys!!
Posted 10/21/2009 at 07:06:25 PMThis was pretty fucked up, and id kick the shit outta those kids.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 01:42:48 AMOkay people leave me alone about it . no body has no idea what i am going threw . & tht is his nickname ;; duhhhh ;;(mickey)
Posted 10/22/2009 at 10:10:36 AMOkay, i dont care what anybody says. I love you Micheal and you can get threw this.What D.C. and Jesus did to you was way over the top and they totally messed up big time. I dont care how you are going to look after you recover im still your friend no matter what.I wish i was there for you.This should of never happened to you over $40 and cuz you called the cops,That is total bullshit.Mickey if you ever read this,i want you to no that i have been thinking of you 24/7 when i get free time at school i go and read all the news reports and see how you are doing.I love you Mickey!!!You can do this.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 10:20:59 AM-Your friend always,Brittany !
Looks like she is playing hooky again...
So, once again, we have to endure the mindless babbling, run-on sentences, and horrible grammar.
Quick spelling / grammar lesson for you. I'll dumb it down so you can understand it!
Error: "I love you Micheal and you can get threw this."
Threw = past tense of throw. Example: "They threw rubbing alcohol on him".
Correct word to use: "Through" Example : "Micheal will get through this, the 5 animals will be tried as adults, and become Bubbas little bitch."
Error: "That is total bullshit.Mickey if you ever read this,i want you to no that i have been thinking of you ..."
No = opposite of "yes". Example: "No, don't pour that alcohol on me and light me on fire. It will hurt very much, and scar me physically and emotionally for the rest of my life".
Correct word to use: "know" Example: "The 5 animals know they are screwed".
If you ARE in school, please pull a teacher over to you to proof read the repetitive, mindless, grammatical nightmares you continue to post.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 10:44:45 AMI CANNOT BELIEVE THESE ARE MIDDLE SCHOOL "CHILDREN". SOUNDS PREMEDITATED TO ME. PEOPLE JUST DONT WALK AROUND WITH RUBBING ALCOHOL. TRY THEM AS ADULTS AND PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE HARSH FOR THESE ANIMALS!!!!!
Posted 10/22/2009 at 11:39:38 AMwtf those kids ruinesd someones life
Posted 10/22/2009 at 11:45:45 AM"Paul" and "Neo" Why don't you both shut the hell up already. Stop arguing over backgrounds or what type of person would do this. The kids are gorillas and white trash and should immediatly be sentnced to death. When your three they teach you "stop drop and roll" and to run out of a building when its on fire, therefore stating you can get seriously injured, they don't teach you this at a young age just for shits and giggles now do they? The boys were laughing at there "achievments" and are completely incompitent. Brittnay as for you, your making yourself look stupid, you can't defend people who are in the wrong. Heather and Ed are 150% correct. Not one person is going to be happy if these boys walk away free. Serious punishment should be taken; these 5 boys don't have to live with what michael does. Remorse should not be used the boys seemingly hold there heads up high and still think michael's in the wrong. Kill all 5 take them in a back alley and blow their fucking brains out. Nasty little punks don't deserve to breath the air that everyone else does scumbags shouldn't be able to roam the streets, what are they going to look for there next victum?
Posted 10/22/2009 at 12:05:59 PMYou are all retarted because no one put him out with an fire extinguisher. If they did the chemicals from it would of givin him an infection ok. Also that stupid little thirteen year old shouldn't be let out of jail because hes the dumbass who poured the alcohol on michael. Another thing is that the only reason michael didn't pay for the game is because it didn't work because they had given him a broken one, and the reason they did that is because they all have down sindrome. Also that stupid bent kid should of done it himself. I mean what a little baby having to get other kids to do his moron work for him. Oh and a little advice if you want to be tough fight hand to hand you f'n wimps.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 01:39:46 PMOk I want to settle things now. Stop the religious stuff, your opinion is your own. This isn't the place to argue about it. Michael got burned horribly, there is still a chance he could die. If you want all Christians or all Muslims to die your are just as bad as the kids who set Michael on fire.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 02:18:28 PMJust hearing this story made my blood boil and reading the post made by Briitany makes it worse! These kids should all die a slow painful death. I am not a pacifist nor do I have a bleeding heart, I don't care who poured what, who lite what or who said what, they acted as a group they should be punished as a group. They have completely altered Micheals life and have caused extreme pain both mentally and physically, they deserve it back. Brittany, I don't care who is your friend and who isn't, you are seriously mentally f'd! I served in both Afganistan and Iraq and have never heard anyone have a case of denial like you. Your friends commited a cruel and grotesque act, I don't care how sorry they are or are not. They deserve to be punished, will they be punished to the extent they should be? probally not legally. But we can only hope and pray that the oppurtunity for someone to return the same "friendship" that you so say they shared with Micheal to them.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 02:23:01 PMYou know, this is why America needs guns. I bet all you tree-huggin hippies undrstand why we need them now huh?
Posted 10/22/2009 at 03:25:37 PMThis story makes me enraged, sick and extremely sad for Michael. He will suffer every day for the rest of his life with pain, a brutal recovery, years of medical procedures, and will carry scars that will remind him every single day of this vicious attack. As far as I am concerned, this was attempted murder and the boys involved should all suffer a punishment equal to what Michael has suffered. If they are convicted and do some nominal time in jail and the authorities say they are going to be rehabilitated, that will not be enough. Michael will never be the same and those boys do not deserve to ever have a normal life again or be the same again. The boys were all present, and they all intended to do harm to Michael that day. Just because the other 4 did lite the match, does not make them any less guilty. If just ONE of those 5 boys had said or done something to stop this attack, the lives of all 6 boys involved would not be destroyed. The 5 boys should all be charged and tried as adults and they should spend the rest of their lives suffering, just like Michael will suffer. WAKE UP PARENTS......teach your children right from wrong and compassion and that all actions have consequences. The 5 boys are all monsters and do not deserve any allowances because of their age. The attorney for the one boy that has been "crying since the attack" should be ashamed of himself for representing such a little monster that is a menace to society.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 03:27:43 PMthey should all get burned ! all of them! forget doing time. they need to get burned.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 03:32:35 PMWhat are you saying, Joe, that all 15-year-old kids should carry guns, just in case someone tries to set them on fire? I'm pretty sure arming 15-year-olds everywhere won't decrease violence, even among non-tree-hugging hippies.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 04:00:18 PMThe astonishingly atrocious act committed against Michael Brewer is such as shocks the minds of all but those who would be disposed to commit such an act in the first place. Make no mistake, the kind of person who would do what the perpetrators did to Michael would just as soon do the same to you, your child, or a member of your community. Such sociopathic personalities have been known to exist for so long as human beings have sought to live according to a social order. The concepts of right, wrong, compassion, fairness, justice and decency are as alien to them as are the surfaces of the outer planets. They are no more capable of feeling remorse than is a block of granite and are less interested..
Millennia ago, it was realized that the manifestations of violent sometimes exceedingly violent sociopathy was an inescapable aspect of the human condition and that means of controlling those manifestations had to be found lest men and women be unable to live together in communities. In order, as Thomas Hobbes wrote, that men and women “might conserve themselves in numbers”, the rule of law was instituted. To hold the thugs and sociopaths in check a system of rules was instituted whereby commission of proscribed acts would result in memorable punishment.
The object of the criminal law ought not to be revenge but punishment. The punishment should be in proportion to the crime and should be such as will modify the conduct of persons disposed to committing offenses. Punishments written into statute books but seldom applied would not avail. Heinous acts punished with gentle reprimands would engender mocking of the law and likely increased commission of even more heinous acts.
During the 17th and 18th centuries, Enlightenment thinkers such as John Locke, Montesquieu and Jean Jacques Rousseau began openly to ruminate on the notion of defining the “rights of man”, daring to go so far as to observe that none was “above the law”. It was upon the work of these and other thinkers that the Founding Fathers drew the legal bases for the right of this country to come into existence. In the works of the Enlightenment thinkers Jefferson found all that he needed to enable him to draft the Declaration.
Rousseau appreciated that there were and would continue to be circumstances wherein the criminal act committed would be so repulsive to society that the criminal committing the act would thereby forfeit his right to live among civilized men and women.
In The Social Contract, Rousseau wrote:
Again, every rogue who criminously attacks social rights becomes, by his wrong, a rebel and a traitor to his fatherland. By contravening its laws, he ceases to be one of its citizens: he even wages war against it. In such circumstances, the State and he cannot both be saved: one or the other must perish. In killing the criminal, we destroy not so much a citizen as an enemy. The trial and judgements are proofs that he has broken the Social Contract, and so is no longer a member of the State.
How would Rousseau view the act committed against Michael Brewer? Several perpetrators old enough to have known better, surrounded and immobilized a 15 year old boy, then calmly set him alight, using an accelerant, in order to effect revenge for the boy’s having attempted to protect his father’s property The perpetrators later exulted in reflecting on what they had done.
I’ve seen the results on the human body of severe burn injuries. No more horrible injury can be imagined. We touch the hot coil in a dishwasher and yank back our finger, wincing in pain from the application of heat sufficient to raise but a small blister that will disappear of its own in hours or days.
Now imagine being doused with alcohol and set on fire, seeing your flesh well up into bubbles as it burns while your attackers look on and smirk. Imagine seeing your skin turn as black as the soot from a diesel engine and smelling even more putrid as your skin is incinerated. Imagine being in a hospital for five months, knowing you will likely be terribly disfigured and face years of excruciatingly painful surgery to enable you to walk or to dare to appear in public. Now try, if you can, to imagine the terror in Michael Brewer’s mind as he knew he was being consumed by a fire he could not extinguish and that burned whilst his attackers looked on and smirked?
Imagine knowing that your relationships with the world and all the people you knew in it would never be the same, that you may not be able to support yourself or to have a family of your own, and that this happened not because you were trapped in a building or vehicle in an horrific accident, but because other persons thought you hadn’t the right to do what adult society has for generations taught its young people to do.
We will get the kind of society we deserve. If we want to continue to “conserve ourselves in numbers” and to live together in society, then we had better deliver an ultimatum to sociopaths that they had better learn to conform their conduct to societal norms lest they suffer the consequences of swift and certain punishment, punishment that takes account of the nature and extent of the crime committed, the circumstances under which it was committed and the intent of the person or persons who committed it. The punishment should also take account of the involvement of the victim and the type and extent of harm done to him or her.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 04:05:22 PMIf you feel that it is enough to punish what was done to Michael Brewer as an aggravated assault, then be certain that you, your wife, your son, your daughter and your grandchildren always carry at least $40, that none of you ever reports criminal activity to the police and that each of you stays away from stores that have sales on rubbing alcohol. Good God, even doing all that may not be enough. They may decide to burn one of you just for the fun of it.
You people amaze me with how completely stupid you are. Something tragic happen, and you morons sit around and argue with each other. Most of you should be banned from the computer all together.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 04:19:25 PMGet well soon, Michael.
i feel so bad for micheal but i think some of these posts are super crazy first of all how did the people get on the topic of religion at all that has nothing to do with this second sure brittany we dont know what you are going through but calm down THERE IS NO REASON TO WRITE LIKE THIS THE WHOLE TIME also no one should be killed for this they should spend time in prison but not killed and what is wrong with tree hugging hippies? i hope you get thourgh this micheal:(
Posted 10/22/2009 at 04:42:20 PM"U People R Crazy".. thank god she hasn't figured out how to make text BOLD or italicized or even worse, BOTH!
Posted 10/22/2009 at 04:52:47 PMDear Brittany...you have not made one valid point in all of your postings! Telling readers that we do not know the real story! I think you should spend some quality time back in school, your comments make no sense whatsoever. The point of setting Michael on fire was to kill him, and I don't believe that someone with your limited brain function is able to grasp the severity of what has transpired! Michael may not "live" through this and those monsters need to pay the ultimate price...all 5 of them!
Posted 10/22/2009 at 05:18:20 PMI think Ed says it best. Brittany you need to be in school and learn how to spell first of all. I agree with everyone this is not about religion that's an argument for a different time and place. I am still praying every night that Michael comes out of this. There are web sites you can visit to sign petitions to have these animals tried as adults, please visit them. When I drive down my street on the way home from work and see the kids in the neighborhood on their bikes, joking and laughing I think of 1 poor kid that has been robbed of those normal teenage experiences and it makes me sick. I am really surprised more kids from his school have not commented but I'm sure they are probably still shocked. Everyone enjoy the evening and keep praying for Michael.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 05:43:11 PMWhat I am about to say is simply my opinion, which we've all chosen to express in our own manner.
While I am not a parent, I am someone who has worked extensively with children. Race, religion, or parental status is not the single indicator for a child's behavior. I was raised in a single parent household for the majority of my life. There were times when we had very little or nothing at all. However, I have never been arrested, never gotten involved with drugs or alcohol, and I most certainly never engaged in the behavior exhibited by these five young men. That is not to say that I'm a saint...because I am not. No one is.
Now, there could be information regarding the emotional statuses of these five young men that we, the public, are not aware of. I am not saying that this excuses what they did to Michael Brewer. It doesn't. Personally, there is no excuse for it. As for reports of them laughing about it, I'm sad to say that I'm no longer surprised. We've become desensitized to the very things that should outrage and disgust us.
My thoughts and prayers go out to Michael Brewer, his family, and his community. I will justice in the hands of those better-suited to dispense it, as I am neither a lawyer nor a judge. While I find myself wishing for a swift, harsh punishment for them, I also find myself hoping that someone can figure out just where such brutal behavior came from so it can be prevented from happening again.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 05:44:37 PMOk people we are doing no good just sitting here rambling on about random BS. For Christ' sake, we have a FIFTEEN year old boy in a Florida BURN UNIT fighting for his LIFE on its' last thread. For all you right-handed, middle-of-the-road dipshits, this is a child's life that was pretty damn near close to being taken away permanently. GROW THE HELL UP and smell the coffee! Like many others on this forum, I agree that we should not seek retribution on the victim himself but instead on the 5 monsters that committed such a horrific crime towards this young man. It's because of those mindless, cold-hearted, spoiled brats that Michael is STILL in critical condition and might possibly not make it out alive; he'll be damn lucky if he returns to his old self again but that will take years if everything works out right. The 5 menacing juveniles should receive their exact punishment and accept FULL responsibility for their crimes and actions, especially that thirteen year old twat who, people claim, is "unfit for adult court" and "does not know the gravity of his actions". BS PEOPLE! I will repeat what some of you had said in earlier posts; if the kid is able to consciously carry out this crime and/or become an accomplice to it and KNOWING what he is actually doing then I believe he is fully competent to stand adult trial. Bottom line, I hope the courts have enough common sense to convict and sentence these F-ers to the fullest extent and maximum sentence possibe, even if it does mean the death penalty if Michael does not make it. However, if the legal system keeps standing in its' current state of corruption and decides if it is just life imprisonment indefinitely without possibility of parole that is being handed out, I think Michael would be happy to learn that at least some justice (and in another sense, vindication) has been served.
Michael: I don't know you at all, bro, but I just hope for the sake of you, your entire family, good friends, and this entire nation-- that you will get better and better every day, no matter how long it takes you to fully recover. We, as America, have your back and will be with you every step of the way.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 05:59:33 PMkids get away with too much at home lazy, stressed, or busy parents.
now all of a sudden these five kids have parents that are not too stressed too lazy or too busy to stand by these bastard children.
too late now the state will do your job of correcting them .
Posted 10/22/2009 at 06:06:11 PMthe comments on this article are almost as sickening as the fact a little boy was set on fire
most of you here should probably feel some sort of shame, however i know you more than likely wont, please just do yourself and the rest of us a favor and stfu
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Posted 10/22/2009 at 06:10:43 PMI agree with Ed's suggestion that the perpetrators be sentenced to community service in a burns unit, so that they're forced to confront the type of suffering they caused.
Like other posters here, I listened to the 911 call, and it was horrifying. I've also seen reports that Michael's burns are being covered with cadaver skin as he has no undamaged skin that can be used.
If the perpetrators feel as remorseful as their friend has commented, maybe they should consider making restitution by donating some skin grafts themselves to help Michael with his physical recovery.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 07:43:38 PMTwo Cents.. do you mean donate it TO Michael?? I'm hoping you phrased that wrong lol
I don't think Michael would appreciate that too much knowing he is wearing the skin of people who tried to kill him...
Posted 10/22/2009 at 07:52:24 PMDon't snitch
Posted 10/22/2009 at 08:05:26 PM@REAL DUDE
Brewer had every right to snitch on Bent. If he didn't snitch then Michael himself would have probably been blamed for the bike's disappearance.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 08:26:08 PMHmm, very disturbing, When I hear about stuff like this i truly believe the perpetrators should get what they dished out in return. That is, douse these low life fucks in the same shit, and burn them to the same extent. After that's done, let them suffer, throw them in jail and let them rot for the rest of their lives.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 03:39:09 AMI feel sort of embarrassed because the first thing i think is what color were the kids? people act like race is never a factor bur sometimes it is. I also feel embarrasses when it turns out a white kid did the crime. I'm like damn you're making us look bad. I don't think well were they Christian or paganor agnostic..ever. besides I always reassure my pagan friends global warning and high fuel prices preclude me from burining them as witches, whenever they act like Christians are the evilest ppl on earth. hey vikings, romans, etc historically killed alot of people who had different religious beliefs as well. now the phony xtians and uptight jerks make all the rest of us look bad too. Boy am I tired of ppl expecting me to apologise for my race religion culture, 2 of those I had no control over and anyway I wouldn't change even if I could.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 04:44:48 AMThis poor kid, he went through what most ppl think of as hell right here on earth. and he will go through it everyday forever. i bet those kids would still be laughing if their lawyers didn't tell them to shut up. too bad they won't feel like the victim will day after relentless day one slow awful second at a time. you can't forgive someone who isn't sorry I don't care what anyone else tries to rell you. I think grace is is too hard for humans to give, because it is hard to know where to give it. I pray for that poor kid. and his family and loved ones.
christians pray for him, that he survives, that his pain is subdueded, that he can one day use all his body parts, that the his scaring is limited and that his moral stays high, and pray that this boy one day forgives these kids as hard as it maybe and as ridicoulous as it may sound, thats what we are taught. Pray for those kids that did this horrible act that they may find peace in their life because something is really wrong when kids can rationalize setting another human on fire and then lauhg about it. Pray their families stay strong because these young men are going to have a rude awakening and they will feel the pain of their actions. No these kids shouldn't die, be burned or shot, just judged by the local athorities pay thier restutation what ever that may be and given another shot at life. God can turn any stituation to benifit his purpose,
Posted 10/23/2009 at 07:55:20 AMEd, I said what I did because I was upset about the extent of Michael's burns and imagining what this child will have to face in the future. I guess the point I was trying to make is that it's easy for the perps to say now how sorry they are when they're worried about their punishment and trying to save their own necks. Words are cheap; if they're truly remorseful there are ways they can show it - they and their families can donate funds to Michael's medical costs, they can help other burn victims, they can donate blood, etc.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 08:12:26 AMWhy are so many people on this forum only thinking of themselves and their own inappropriate views on a other peoples lives.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 09:28:40 AMTHE MOST HORRIBLE ACTS HAPPENS HERE IN AMERICA, NOT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE NATIONS! MORRON FOR WHOEVER SAID THAT THIS HAPPEN IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY, IGNORANT! HERE IN AMERICA IS HORRIBLE THE WAY PEOPLE TREATS EACH OTHER, THEY HAVE NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER FOR ONE ANOTHER! AND YES IS HERE IN AMERICA NOT IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES OR OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD! WAKE UP THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOT WHAT THE WORLD THINKS OF IT, IT'S SURROUNDED BY AN UNFAIR JUSTICE, A SYSTEM THAT IS CAOTIC AND NOONE WHO REALLY CARES!
Posted 10/23/2009 at 09:30:16 AMThe astonishingly atrocious act committed against Michael Brewer is such as shocks the minds of all but those who would be disposed to commit such an act in the first place. Make no mistake, the kind of person who would do what the perpetrators did to Michael would just as soon do the same to you, your child, or a member of your community. Such sociopathic personalities have been known to exist for so long as human beings have sought to live according to a social order. The concepts of right, wrong, compassion, fairness, justice and decency are as alien to them as are the surfaces of the outer planets. They are no more capable of feeling remorse than is a block of granite and are less interested.
Millennia ago, it was realized that the manifestations of violent sometimes exceedingly violent sociopathy was an inescapable aspect of the human condition and that means of controlling those manifestations had to be found lest men and women be unable to live together in communities. In order, as Thomas Hobbes wrote, that men and women “might conserve themselves in numbers”, the rule of law was instituted. To hold the thugs and sociopaths in check a system of rules was instituted whereby commission of proscribed acts would result in memorable punishment.
The object of the criminal law ought not to be revenge but punishment. The punishment should be in proportion to the crime and should be such as will modify the conduct of persons disposed to committing offenses. Punishments written into statute books but seldom applied would not avail. Heinous acts punished with gentle reprimands would engender mocking of the law and likely increased commission of even more heinous acts.
During the 17th and 18th centuries, Enlightenment thinkers such as John Locke, Montesquieu and Jean Jacques Rousseau began openly to ruminate on the notion of defining the “rights of man”, daring to go so far as to observe that none was “above the law”. It was upon the work of these and other thinkers that the Founding Fathers drew the legal bases for the right of this country to come into existence. In the works of the Enlightenment thinkers Jefferson found all that he needed to enable him to draft the Declaration.
Rousseau appreciated that there were and would continue to be circumstances wherein the criminal act committed would be so repulsive to society that the criminal committing the act would thereby forfeit his right to live among civilized men and women.
In The Social Contract, Rousseau wrote:
Again, every rogue who criminously attacks social rights becomes, by his wrong, a rebel and a traitor to his fatherland. By contravening its laws, he ceases to be one of its citizens: he even wages war against it. In such circumstances, the State and he cannot both be saved: one or the other must perish. In killing the criminal, we destroy not so much a citizen as an enemy. The trial and judgements are proofs that he has broken the Social Contract, and so is no longer a member of the State.
How would Rousseau view the act committed against Michael Brewer? Several perpetrators old enough to have known better surrounded and immobilized a 15 year old boy, then calmly set him alight, using an accelerant, in order to effect revenge for the boy’s having attempted to protect his father’s property The perpetrators later exulted in reflecting on what they had done.
I’ve seen the results on the human body of severe burn injuries. No more horrible injury can be imagined. We touch the hot coil in a dishwasher and yank back our finger, wincing in pain from the application of heat sufficient to raise but a small blister that will disappear of its own in hours or days.
Now imagine being doused with alcohol and set on fire, seeing your flesh well up into bubbles as it burns while your attackers look on and smirk. Imagine seeing your skin turn as black as the soot from a diesel engine and smelling even more putrid as your skin is incinerated. Imagine being in a hospital for five months, knowing you will likely be terribly disfigured and face years of excruciatingly painful surgery to enable you to walk or to dare to appear in public. Now try, if you can, to imagine the terror in Michael Brewer’s mind as he knew he was being consumed by a fire he could not extinguish and that burned whilst his attackers looked on and smirked?
Imagine knowing that your relationships with the world and all the people you knew in it would never be the same, that you may not be able to support yourself or to have a family of your own, and that this happened not because you were trapped in a building or vehicle in an horrific accident, but because other persons thought you hadn’t the right to do what adult society has for generations taught its young people to do.
We will get the kind of society we deserve. If we want to continue to “conserve ourselves in numbers” and to live together in society, then we had better deliver an ultimatum to sociopaths that they had better learn to conform their conduct to societal norms lest they suffer the consequences of swift and certain punishment, punishment that takes account of the nature and extent of the crime committed, the circumstances under which it was committed and the intent of the person or persons who committed it. The punishment should also take account of the involvement of the victim and the type and extent of harm done to him or her.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 09:57:23 AMIf you feel that it is enough to punish what was done to Michael Brewer as an aggravated assault, then be certain that you, your wife, your son, your daughter and your grandchildren always carry at least $40, that none of you ever reports criminal activity to the police and that each of you stays away from stores that have sales on rubbing alcohol. Good God, even doing all that may not be enough. They may decide to burn one of you just for the fun of it.
I just read this on another site in regards to our online petition:
State Attorney’s spokesman Ron Ishoy said that the e-mails will not influence any decision. "Ultimately, the decision, of course, is based on all the evidence presented to our office, not on public sentiment," he said.
Excuse me Mr. Ishoy? In case you haven't realized this, WE THE PEOPLE, the public, are the ones who elect the State Attorneys. You are essentially telling us that our words mean nothing, and that we are wasting our time. Open mouth, and insert foot in it.
We will be sure to keep this in mind at the next election, and make sure the only thing all of you will be saying to people is "please pull up to the second window".
Posted 10/23/2009 at 01:06:34 PMLet me first say that this forum obviously is a wonderful testament to the horror of our society. Everyone is concerned is concerned about getting their point across--even if it has no point to the discussion--that they are forgetting about how much pain that this boy (who is only a year younger than me) is suffering with daily. How about the people who comment on this forum stop being so selfish and start to focus on the real problem. A teenage boy will never be the same. He will have health problems for the rest of his life. On the other hand we also need to think about the boys who did this. Of course what they did was wrong, but they are still young, confused, and scared. If they do get put into jail, they will spend the beginning of their adult life behind bars. When they finally do get out, because they didn't get the physiological and emotional help they needed, they will continue to be in trouble. Now first let me say that I am not and will not ever try to justify what the five boys did, however i want to point out that--even if we don't want to admit it-- we could be to blame. Almost everything in our society leaves a negative impact on the youth. And i realize that considering i am still a youth, the fact that i am suggesting this might seem ignorant on my part, but i just want to make the point of how impressionable children's minds can be. Lets look at how this fiasco started, $40. Now that may not seem like a lot of money to adults, but there are a few things to consider. Mostly, in the current economics in this country parents are CONSTANTLY complaining about their family's financial situation. Children are always being reminded about how lack of finances can ruin a life. How can they be expected to not take action when it comes to money in US. But in no way am i trying to condone the actions of those boys, becasue they were wrong and deserved to be punished. But our prayers need to be with Michael Brewer, but also with the parents as well the boys who participated in this ridiculously malicious crime. All of the people involved are in for a long, hard road and it should be our responsibility to think, pray, and take action in helping them on the way to recovery.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 02:43:52 PM*Michael Brewer*
*Hang in there...Keep your head up...Push forward with faith...You're in my prayers bruddah...Aloha*
Posted 10/23/2009 at 02:52:22 PMYeah so, Florida probably has more fucked up things happen even in the last month than any Muslim nation combined so what is even the arguement
Posted 10/23/2009 at 04:10:32 PMOctober 23, 2009
Posted 10/23/2009 at 04:42:40 PMhi Michael,
i hope you recover soon.Some very good help is on the way to you. As a family, they have the means to help, and you will become a good person, again. Get well.
Sincerely,
Marissa and Philip DiBartolo
Parents, know what your child brings home. How does this child have a video game that costs $40? Why or how did the other children get this game to sell? Where are there parents? They shouldn't be trading items. Am I antiquated that I know everything that comes in my home. I don't blame the parents for the heinous crime against their child. It is something that could have been avoided with those children. He should never have bought anything from them. I can't imagine their parents let them sell their own game. These very may well be stolen items. Watch who your children associate themselves with. These children, unfortunately, watched too much tv and felt themselves more like the mafia than teenagers. Now they will be tried as adults and sent to prison, not summer camp. I know as well as anyone else, young people in prison are tortured and raped. They will not be protected and there sentence will include a lot more than time. Truly a sad ending. Perhaps Michael could have told his father why they wanted to steal the bike. Simple things could have saved all these boys from years of what are sure to be filled with physical and psychological torture.
Posted 10/23/2009 at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
Posted 10/23/2009 at 07:24:48 PMThis is why I homeschool. If your child does not get abducted walking the long mile to and from school alone then they will probably get bullied, beaten or burned by some of the kids at school because too many parents let the children raise themselves. If you don't think the danger is real then go teach in a middle school. I taught middle school for awhile and there are some amazing kids. However the very real threats out there are just too great. If you think most teachers and admin are there to protect your kids think again. Parents protect your children.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 10:15:23 PMJUST PUT ALL 5 OF THOSE LIL SON OF A BITCHES IN JAIL FOR A LONG LONG TIME, ONLY IN PRISON WILL THEY GET TRUE JUSTICE.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 11:27:44 PMThere Are No Words (Part I)
There are no words that can describe the agony that Michael had to endure. If you want to feel disgust, outrage, and depression just listen to that 911 tape just once. The sound of Michael’s screams, punctuated with his utter exclamations of bewilderment brought tears to the eyes of this 47 year old father. I made myself listen to it twice, I don’t know why. Maybe to force myself feel terribly thankful that I will hopefully never see my children endure this. As a parent I know Michael’s mother is feeling torture as well. This 911 tape affected me 10 times harder than anything like this I have ever listened to before, and hopefully ever again. Michael, I am prying for you and your family to get well. God bless on the difficult journey before you.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 01:04:00 AMre: neo's stupid comment...
neo said:
Oh yes since America is a "CHRISTIAN" culture it shouldn't happen here. Yeah, thanks Paul. Oh and by the way, wake up. That guy who burned him SURELY was a muslim, since we all know ALL muslims are evil and ALL christians are good. It sure is a crying shame aint it?
what happened to this young boy is terrible. It shows that too many people, young or older, have no value of life, or perspective. They are just wild and ugly.
Borne from the same ugliness that shows in the stupidity of neo's words. neo sees hate and stupidity and uses it as a reason to express his own hate and stupidity. To connect what happened here to anything muslim, or to any other religion...well I anyone here cannot see the stupidity in neo's words then any words I can type will not explain it any better.
What a waste.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 06:59:39 AMRegarding the update.. Can't charge the 13yr old as an adult??? Are you kidding me???
The child is at least 13 years of age at the time of the disposition for the current offense, the child is eligible for prosecution as an adult for the current offense, and the current offense is ranked at level 7 or higher on the Criminal Punishment Code offense severity ranking chart pursuant to s. 921.0022.
921.0022: Criminal Punishment Code; offense severity ranking chart.--
(i'll skip to the good stuff)
Level 7
784.045(1)(a)2. 2nd Aggravated battery; using deadly weapon.
784.045 Aggravated battery.--
(1)(a) A person commits aggravated battery who, in committing battery:
1. Intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement; or
2. Uses a deadly weapon.
(2) Whoever commits aggravated battery shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
790.001 Definitions.--As used in this chapter, except where the context otherwise requires:
(13) "Weapon" means any dirk, knife, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife, plastic knife, or blunt-bladed table knife.
Tell em again how this kid isn't being charged with a felony???
Posted 10/24/2009 at 01:05:00 PMGive them adult time. They're young enough that when they get out they'll be beat and raped enough to know better next time. What jacked up kids! Lucky they don't get set on fire themselves by this kids friends.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 01:28:59 PMIf I'm understanding it right, Ed, he has to be charged with a capital crime or something that would entail a life sentence. Since he didn't pour the rubbing alcohol, and didn't light the fire, and Michael didn't die, he's only charged with battery. It may be felony battery, but under Florida law, that's not enough for adult charges for a kid that young. At least that's how I'm understanding it.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 01:42:20 PMPete, the laws are so vaguely written, that's the problem. Probably because up until recently, there hasn't been a need to re-write them.
Because it doesn't specifically go into detail that the combination of being a minor and being an accomplice of an attempted murder, he's only getting these charges. He was there, didn't try to stop it, and watched it happen, but because he's 13, he gets off on lesser charges. It's also moronic that just because the victim didn't die - yet will have to endure a lifetime of pain and the constant reminder of his assault every time he looks in the mirror, that the charges are much, much different. How stupid is that.
Now, I'm not saying he will get a slap on the wrist, but I am hoping he gets the maximum allowable punishment handed to him (I can't even find the punishment for felony battery by a minor). Whenever this thing goes to trial, it will be nothing short of "interesting" the bullsh*t excuses the lawyers come up with.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 02:58:52 PMWhy is this not a HATE crime? It would be if the races involved were reversed.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 03:13:04 PMeach kid involved in teh attack should be shot like swine.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 06:39:25 PMI send all my wishes to Michael Brewer - what he is suffering must be horendous, for him and his family.
The five juveniles whom have put him through this pain - I hope they realise what they have done and realise this is no way for a human-being to act, regardless of age or reasoning - particularly when it's about money. The thirteen year old boy should be tried as an adult - they all should. Thirteen is an age where you know the difference between right and wrong, especially when your being a part of burning another human-being alive.
Video games and violent movies do not always have any relevance to these sorts of crimes - but if they were subjected to violence from a young age where violence became all they knew then it is quite reasonable to assume that is the only way they knew how to 'deal with things'. But that is no excuse at all.
And to the 'religious debate' - I think you all need to realise that religion does not come into the equation of violence and evil. Evil and cruelty is in mankinds nature, it is at times a 'fight for survival' and religion has no relevance to that at all. We are ALL capable of committing acts of evil and dismay, but most people have the conscience and ability to withhold themselves as they know the difference between right and wrong.
Also another point - there were five boys, do not forget about the horrible force of peer pressure. One boy was in control of this whole thing, the one Michael owed money too. He ordered the alcohol be poured on him and then for the flame to be lit and to burn Michael alive. If the two boys who followed those orders had of said 'no, its not right' who knows what would have happened to them aswell. Being a part of a 'group' can be very important to adolescents, more so than their own morals and beliefs.
I believe all boys should be tried as adults to open their eyes to reality and the true consequences they must face. This is another 're-play' of the case in London about 10 years ago when two boys tortured the toddler and put him on the train tracks. People are evil, regardless of age, race or religion, but the justice system has to take a stand. If they are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, they are old enough to be tried as adults!
Posted 10/24/2009 at 09:05:52 PMHorrible situation, I send the family my deepest sympathy and prayers. The hard fact is that now 6 lives have been destroyed. Over something so petty, 1 life we can pray for and hope the best for a recovery and the other 5 are now trapped in a system that will forever be tangled in their lives forever.
Posted 10/25/2009 at 02:49:13 AMGod bless this poor boy and his family. I hope the judge throws the book at the 5 monsters who did this regardless of age. They knew what they were doing and didn't care. This isn't about religion or video games. This is about 5 people who never learned common decency. Early on, someone said that Mike did something to bring it on by not following through on the bet and then telling on the other boys...you're as bad as those five. NOTHING Mike could have said or did deserved this. Anyone who says differently is sick. This poor kid, if he lives, will have scars, both physically and emotionally, for the rest of his life. There is no punishment too great for those five.
Posted 10/25/2009 at 04:05:40 AMI have noticed a trend with these sorts of crimes, all the children involved usually are low income people that run the neighborhood, and their parents let them do whatever they want, pierced lips, noses, tats, etc, mullet haircuts,purple hair etc. Although none of these kids look that way, I would guess to bet they are children of low income people and they are allowed to do whatever they want. Kids need boundaries, kids are who they hangout with. It is the parents job to help them make good choices for friends, so that they do not get involved with the wrong people. As for these animals who did this I hope they pay for their crime for at least 10-15 years in the pokey. I bet baby face wont be laughing when his bunkmate is a 40 year old who takes no delight in another punk. I bet the parents of the violent kids are making excuses still for their children's behavior.
Posted 10/25/2009 at 05:16:20 AMWhite trash people named their kid denver colorado? and another one bent? How retarded. Kind of shows the intellegence level of the parents huh? Stupid! Let these kids go to the big house.
Posted 10/25/2009 at 05:35:01 AMThe more I think about the comment that the spokesman for the State Attorneys office said, the more angry I get.
There always manages to be loopholes in laws that are in favor for the prosecuting attorney in every other crime, why not this?
Isn't it against the law to stand by and do nothing while a crime is being committed? Why aren't each one being charged with 5 counts for letting each other do it, as well as each one charged with attempted murder? Oh, that's right, they are all "kids" and didn't know better, right?
The driver of a getaway car in a bank robbery is also charged with robbery, etc, right? They didn't rob the bank, they didn't pull the guns, and they didn't enter the vault or whatever, but were part of the group that did...
I bet if it was the State Attorneys kid who was lit on fire, and not the kid of some poor unknown family, the charges would be much greater, and I they ALL would be charged as adults without thinking twice.
Posted 10/25/2009 at 05:36:18 PMHey Jesse! Jesse!?!?! Jesse Jackson?? Where are you?
Posted 10/26/2009 at 08:55:38 AMMy only comment at this point is... I don't understand what the 13 year old Jarvis kid is not going to be tried as an adult. My wish is that all the teens are charged as adults. What are we going to give he youngest one some time in juvie? He did an adult crime and should do the same time. I agree with Ed the laws need to be re- written and it's this case that should cause out government to take a moment ans consider changing the course of action they take against criminals in this position. I'm disgusted with there first ruling. This case is so upsetting, this new devlopment just makes me even more upset. Michael please get better we are all pulling for you.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 09:00:19 AMThe worse part is that only one is charged with attempted murder, the others are charged with battery? I posted before that if they were to be released I am certain that there would be some form of retaliation...street justice. These monsters will never recieve proper punishment if left to the judicial system and I believe that everyone reading this understands what I am saying. In fact the system is what is protecting them from any unpleasantness that they would face if they were allowed back in to the general public.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 09:49:34 AMWill be praying for michael.... theres NO excuse for this happening... its pure evil and i hope the boys and i mean all of them are tried as adults! Found Guilty and put away for a very long time! Here in this country we need to make examples of these criminal!!!!! Go back to the old days for child molester murderers too ... public execution... no more paying for these horrible criminals to live yrs on our money we work hard for!
Posted 10/26/2009 at 01:46:17 PMI was riding home from school today on my bus, listening to music and not paying attention to anything. As we were stopping at one of the bus stops, a girl in the back started screaming. I looked back and saw her pointing out the window, and I followed her stare. Out in an unfenced yard were 3 guys. Two of them standing, one of them was on the ground bloody. The taller of the two men had a baseball bat and was about ready to smash it into his head again, when they realized a whole busload of kids were looking at them. As the bus driver radioed in the 911 call, the other man, who hadn't been doing anything, took a pistol out of his pocket and shot the guy in the head. At this point the whole bus was in shock and glued to the morbid scene. The two men got into a car and sped off. When I came home I was visibly shaken. I told her what I had just seen. Then my mom got scared, she said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said "Fresh" and it had dice in the mirror. If anything I could say that this cab was rare but I thought "Nah, forget it, Yo homes, to Bel-Air!" I pulled up to the house about seven or eight and I yelled to the cabby, "Yo homes, smell ya later!" I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air .
Posted 10/26/2009 at 03:19:59 PMI just thought everyone should remember we are still talking about 15 year old boys here. That's not to say they shouldn't be tried as adults (they should) but the death penalty? Let's put them in prison so they can be beaten by adults for the rest of their lives (not just their childhood)? What happened to Michael needs to be justified, but let's not lose our heads. By sentencing these kids to life in jail doesn't prove anything. It'll happen again. And again. Until people start getting smart and realize the problem needs to be stopped at the start. Kids aren't born bad. That would be a case of nature vs. nurture. The kids who did this obviously need some kinda help whether: mentally, emotionally, or taken out of their homes. For all you adults commenting on this, please, try to remember no matter which way you look at it, these boy are 15.
And as for religion, people need to be more considerate. I don't care if you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc. The Brewer family is living off prayers right now. It's their only hope. So try to be respectful, because when you try to make it out it doesn't work, you take away someone else's hope.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 06:21:11 PMI'm praying for you, Michael. May God be with you. And may God be the one left to judge all the boys fates.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 06:22:24 PMTo: LK
Re-read everything you posted and then see if you can judge someone on interligence. Quick hint, if you ever want someone to take you seriously, don't use the word retarted out of context.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 06:27:51 PMTo: TS
You may want to check your own spelling and grammar before bashing someone else.
Posted 10/26/2009 at 06:31:21 PM@TS and LK
BOTH of you stop this BS. Quit acting like a couple 3 year olds and grow a pair. We are simply here to share comments about the Brewer case. There are much better things to be doing than fighting over something so irrelevant. GET OVER IT!
Posted 10/26/2009 at 07:38:47 PMdur to TS said: I nnever said anything about spelling or grammer. I just said it doesn't make anyone sound smart when they use the word retarted in replace of stupid. And anyone can type things wrong on the computer for spelling. It happens more then you may think.. No, what I was simply trying to say is learn what retarted actually means before accusing people of being it.
Jacob: I didn't come here to start an argument over porper spelling or grammer, but yes, I do get very offened when people use the word retarted in the wrong way.
Sorry for getting off topic. I know in all this Michael is more important and I to am praying for his recovery.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 01:40:35 PMThe mother of the Jarvis boys actually said they were good kids! If "good kids" immolate another human being and laugh about it, what do "bad kids" do? Michael has endured the most excruciating pain imaginable. He will suffer from this for the rest of his life. Justice isn't even possible in this case. Whatever sentence these kids get, Michael's is going to be longer and more miserable.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 03:24:18 PMWell, I think it was a pop culture thing. I think these kids thought It be cool if they acted like thugs. I think the black pop culture has made this country more violent and unpredictable. Remember the ninties when it was becoming popular to act like a street thug, white kids were wiggers. I remember, I was a teen then. Anyway, the country let it get out of control, now it's ok to be a street thug wannabee. I'm sorry but the whole thug, gang, I prove myself with violence thing is like animalistic and ugly. You gangsta's are a bunch of out of control ape***** and I hate you all.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 05:11:30 PMI feel very bad for him he is going through some mest up crapp and that is sad i wish you the best from the bottom of my heart i hope you make it and be able to live a normal life
Posted 10/28/2009 at 08:52:13 PMLove,
Brooke Wilson P.S.I hope
you the best
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Brooke
Can we please just drop the racism and stereotypical time-frame bulls**t? This has nothing to do with religion, race, or any of that. This is simply a case of bad parenting on the accused' part. Some parents today raise their kids to be animals; and that's what these 5 sleazeballs are: animals.
Yeah, you argue that the 13 year old is wrongly convicted but the truth of the matter is he that he's just as guilty as the other 4 twerps because he stood there and did nothing watching someone get lit on fire.
We need to face the reality, although VERY slim, that Michael may pass on because of what happened to him. Like Dr. Namias said, the worst is yet to come. FOCUS on the big picture and let the authorities dig up the smaller details.
Posted 10/28/2009 at 11:33:53 PMDid you hear about the 15 year old girl who got raped by up to 10 guys for 2.5 hours and nobody stopped it? A lot of other people passed by or watched and even laughed.
They just discolosed that the murder of the 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten, was the older sister of one of her playmates. A 15-year-old. All these crimes involved perpatrators or victims who are 15. What's up with that?
Posted 10/29/2009 at 01:28:00 AMTS, thank you for making my point stronger with your own ignorance, again..
You initially typed "Re-read everything you posted and then see if you can judge someone on interligence. Quick hint, if you ever want someone to take you seriously, don't use the word retarted out of context."
And your next not-so-witty retort:
"I nnever said anything about spelling or grammer. I just said it doesn't make anyone sound smart when they use the word retarted in replace of stupid. And anyone can type things wrong on the computer for spelling. It happens more then you may think."
Well, "quick hint" - it also doesn't make anyone look "smart" when they can't spell "intelligence", "grammar" or "retarded" (yes, those are the correct spellings) while they are trying to make a point, which you also have yet to do.
These aren't typos, they are blatant misspellings.
Posted 10/29/2009 at 02:23:57 PMI am not talking about racism, I'm talking about america's pop-culture being violent. Not all African Americans nor Whites embrace that culture. I have a feeling that this might have been provoked from some sort of jealousy, We as a country need real answers for these crimes that kids are committing. like their exact words that they used with one another when they were planning this attack. What would you have thought if the races were reversed? I would have screemed hate crime. I think that Michael was probibly a low income kid who acted like a little yo boy himself, his friends seem that way. Why don't you people honestly investigate all possibilities and get your head out of your ass. We need to change these trashy cultures it's not kool to act like a thug, it's violent. Didn't you people hear about all the other cases with kids getting attacked by a group of yo boys/homeboys what ever? And no, homeboys are not all black males. The kid in maryland who got beat up for no reason on the bus, the kid in Crofton who tryed to get away from a group of thug-like kids and was beaten to death. Don't you see this trend? There are metal detecters in public schools that use to be normal schools. Their is more violence in schools by thug-kids and loner kids. Why are we acting like this shit is normal, you should be afraid and angry at these changes. What, do you have your head up your ass. Why don't we care about why these kids are more violent? They really are, WHY? WHY? WHY THEN?
Posted 10/29/2009 at 10:09:57 PMI don't think that these kids should be burned nor do I hope that they get raped in prison. I don't believe in rape and neither should you. People, they should get 25 years in prison with no chance of parole.(sorry if I misspelled) I grew up poor in apartments, the kids embrace that yo-boy, thug culture so that they are not attacked and they think their kool. My sister and her friends and boys were like that. They come off as losers, start conflict, and move around like slugs. I strongly believe that the violence will stop when the parents stop acting like trash and teach their kids empathy, compassion, not to act like a fool, and to get educated. Parents are not all to blame however, My mother use to tell my sister off and tell her how stupid she looked when she was being a homegirl, my mother followed my sister all the time, screamed at her to stop, told her what was going to happen to her if she didn't stop. Some kids are going to follow the group no matter what the parents do. My mother loved my sister and is still there for her and my sister knows it. However, it dosen't change the fact that she is still a piece of shit that will never care about anyone but herself. You can't always blame the parents. We need to become fed up with this homeboy/homegirl crap. We need to make it unkool so that the kids will stop it. I read that girl's messages, the one who claims to be Micheals friend. I think she was trying to get attention I don't think she really gives a crap.
Posted 10/30/2009 at 11:46:12 AMIf any of you really care about Michael Brewer, than you may be interested in the round the world moment of prayer observance at 7PM tonight. You may participate on Michael's behalf whether you believe in any God or No-God. Just send him good thoughts and good karma at anytime. It can't hurt. If you "Really" want to help...send money to the Michael Brewer Fund. His parent's insurance will not cover all the thousands & thousands of dollars his medical services will cost. They surely will not be able to get this kind of retribution from the scum bag parents of the accused boys. These bills will bankrupt this family and compromise Michael's future care. Please help. Have a heart and help the victim. Get on the Neighbors 4 Neighbors Family Fund website and send a donation with Michael Brewers name in the "Intention of Donation" line, if paying by credit card or send checks made out to Neighbors 4 Neighbors Family Fund with Michael Brewer's name in the memo line, and mailed to 8900 NW 18th Terrace, Miami, FL 33172.
Cards for Michael can be sent to:
Jackson Memorial Hospital
c/o Lorraine Nelson
Public Relations Office
1611 NW 12th Ave.
Miami, FL 33136
Nothing else matters right now people.... Michael and his family need our help!
Posted 10/30/2009 at 01:57:35 PMI just listened to the 911 call that a lady made. I would like to commend her for trying to keep the boy calm in the situation. I think she did a fine job. I don't think I would have been able to do that.
Posted 10/31/2009 at 12:33:56 AMCarla, why should MY tax dollars pay for them to sit in prison for 25 years??
Doesn't our government realize that keeping people on "death row" or in prison for an extended time just adds to the financial burden on everyone else?
I don't know the exact figures, but I believe it cost something like 35-40k a year per inmate. Add that to the all of the prison guards salaries, etc, and you're talking a huge chunk of change. If there were less inmates, there would be less overtime, etc. Guess who pays for it? WE DO.
The whole "death penalty" is a joke. How is it a "penalty" to get fed 3 meals a day, have a tv, computers, etc? They have more rights in prison than they do in the outside world. Far from a "penalty" if you ask me.
The death penalty should be just what it says. Why isn't it? Because it "isn't humane"? Well, newsflash - it isn't humane to slice, dice, stab, or shoot another person. Our society has become so damn soft towards these animals and their excuses - "i was beaten as a child". Boohoo, get over it. All it takes is ONE juror to feel sorry for them, and they don't get what they DESERVE.
So, Carla, if you want to foot the bill to keep these little bastards in jail for 25 years, you go right ahead, but I say fire up ol' sparky and fry them, or give them a Clorox cocktail. Period.
Posted 10/31/2009 at 11:20:45 AMI agree with Ed that we should just fry these douchebags.
I did some research and Florida gives its' death row inmates the option to choose between the needle and ol' sparky. I don't think we should give them the chance to choose how they die. I say strap 'em all up to the chair and let the fireworks begin.
The scums have no use living on this earth any longer and hopefully those sparks will catch them all on fire so they know how it feels to be burned alive.
Posted 10/31/2009 at 02:07:39 PMLets be real about this situation, death is what these five kids deserve (I think by injection) But that is not going to happen. This justice system will not put these young kids to death nor will they probibly really do anything about it. You know as well as I do that they are going to just get juvi until their eighteen. Not enough people know about this case, not enough people are talking about it. If you want justice, then waite for them to get out and do it your self. I wouldn't do anything as cruel as what they did though, there's no point, the message should be just to take them out. You shouldn't torture a child molester you should just make them not exist. Our country would be more respected if it eliminated the really evil ones, the ones that have tortured someone the most severe way and there is hard evidence. This of course will never happen, so........ They should at the least get twenty five years with no parole. They will probibly get away with it because this country is racist towards whites. Whites deserve what they get.
Posted 10/31/2009 at 05:10:11 PMCarla,
There you go again with this racist bullshit! This is not about race; this has nothing even remotely close to do with race. This is about 5 little tough-guy-wannabe's who think they're so cool and think they demand respect when they know they're too damn young to earn it.
I still stand firmly by my decision in that these 5 shitheads should get cooked in Ol' Sparky. While they're being executed I would want the state to force the parents to watch their hardened excuses for sons fry and then the parents should get fried themselves. Then, and ONLY then would true justice be served.
It just has to take the right people for something like this to even happen. Otherwise if they all get let out at 18 they might wind up committing another heinous crime and actually GET AWAY with it!
Posted 10/31/2009 at 09:06:41 PMyes there seems to be a double standard. I don't think anyone would hesitate to bring these hate crimes to justice if the races were reversed. I don't see why you think their execution should be so cruel and violent. That would just make America an evil place. You are twisted! You don't want to face the idea that this country might have a racial problem you just want to fry five young boys. You don't want to discuse why these things might happen today, or that it could be a hate crime, just get Ol'Sparky. Anyway, I have donated money to Michael Brewers family, and I'm NOT racist I would have done the same for any boy that suffered this bad. I don't get the violent remarks, why don't you try to get real.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 12:40:42 PMCarla,
You stated "I don't see why you think their execution should be so cruel and violent. That would just make America an evil place."
Are you kidding me? America IS an evil place. Why shouldn't their execution be "cruel and violent"? What they did to this kid was exactly that. An eye for an eye.
It's people with the mindset like YOU who keep these scumbags in and out of the prison systems - they are called "repeat offenders" - look it up. I bet you think that they can be "reformed with therapy", right? Get real.
Why should we "discuss" why it happened. It won't prevent it from happening again, nor turn back the clock - it's not like it's the first time we've seen this, and nothing has changed. Don't pull the race card on us either. Scumbags come in all colors, shapes, and sizes dear.
How can you say that people wanting the punishment to be equal to the crime are "twisted"? You're delusional lady, you won't get "violent remarks" from me, but you really need a reality check. I don't know what kind of bubble you live in, but go take a ride through the "bad areas" of Orlando, Jacksonville, Clearwater, or even Ocala, etc (yes, even little no-name towns have them). Proceed to get out of your car when you see a group of these piece of trash lowlife street thugs, and tell them "how bad you feel for them" - for the choices they make for themselves, and offer them help. Hell, let them move in with you if you feel so bad for their up bringing. You'll be in for one hell or a surprise with the response you get. Word of advice - wear a bullet proof vest.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 02:09:40 PM"An eye for an eye"? This is the rule you guys want to follow? A creed from the old Testament? The same book that advocates death for adulterers, blasphemers, heretics and impudent slaves? The book that makes it a mortal sin to eat shellfish or wear clothing with mixed-fibers? Forbids men to shave their beards or grow their hair too long? Are you serious? Why don't we just forget all the progress we've made as a society and start living in the caves and flinging shit at each other? No doubt that's probably the kind of country you aspire to.
Are you familiar, sir, with the term "reactionary?" You should be, because you are. You see, a reactionary only reacts to each individual event. Thus, life for a reactionary becomes that of a tiny ship at sea -- constantly buffeted by waves and winds beyond his understanding. The reactionary has little room for rational thought -- who has time to think when there's water leaking into the prow and you've lost an oar to the sea?
The progressive, however, spends less time reacting to each wave, and more time trying to figure out how to ride them with as little trouble as possible. Yes -- people like Carla and myself might want to discuss "why it happened." That isn't from some weakness of character that tries to avoid handing out tough sentences to the offenders -- it's to find out if there is any way we can lessen the chances of it happening again.
Don't get me wrong -- I hope these little monsters get punished the fullest extent of the law. But truly, if reactionaries like you were in control (like you were for 8 full years, recently) our existence would be one never-ending string of attacks and reprisals. Instead, we've made great progress in diagnosing the societal factors that lead to such violence and sublimating them -- hence, the decreasing crimerate in nearly every city in America.
From your invitation to Carla to "take a ride through the bad areas of Orlando, Jacksonville, Clearwater..." it is evident that you only drive through these areas with your windows up, your doors locked, and a slick sheen of fear sweat covering your old, flabby body. Perhaps if you had the courage to do the thing you so sarcastically ask Carla to do -- that is, to get out and "care" about the people you so casually dismiss as trash lowlife street thugs, you would find that they are not so very different from yourself. Living in a hopeless environment, where violence and want are everyday companions, with no hope of escape does funny things to humans. And then we're surprised when they react badly? You don't poke a dog with a stick into a corner and keep poking him without expecting a violence reaction, do you sir?
And please note I'm not talking about these five boys -- I'm merely saying that it is unproductive and futile to spend time frothing at the mouth at how very bad YOU want these punks to suffer. Yes, yes, we all want them to pay for what they did. But this isn't an outrage-athon. For some, the opportunity to puff their chests and crow about how THEY would handle the situation is too easy an opportunity to prove their mettle to pass up. That's fine. But don't come down hard on others who would rather have an intelligent discussion about the causes of these kinds of violence acts instead of jumping into a saber-rattling contest with you and the rest of the mouth-breathers on this site.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 03:29:05 PMCarla,
Are you freakin' KIDDING me?! I'm probably more real than you could ever be. I'm not twisted, I just believe in true justice. At least I'm wanting to save my tax dollars and send these punks right to the chair where they belong.
There is no way in hell I would be willing to use my hard-earned money to keep those heartless kids alive in juvie/prison being given three meals and a shower daily.
Haven't you heard of the phrase "eye for eye, tooth for tooth"? The boys should get exactly what they dished out on Michael.
Let's not forget the big picture here Carla: need I remind you that Michael got burned on 80 PERCENT of his body over a stupid VIDEO GAME and the fact that he did the right thing and ratted out the kid who tried to steal his dad's bike?
And another thing, the only way this would be a hate crime is if the races were reversed or if Michael was gay; neither of those things were the case.
And I know why these things happen: it's called bad parenting, Carla. All 5 boys with the exception of one of them had parents with past criminal histories. The parents don't teach their kids right from wrong; and look what happens, the parents bad behavior rubbed off on the kids making them think it was ok to get in trouble with the law and could possibly get away with it. Like I said before, they are just a bunch of spoiled brats who think they run that entire city. They think nothing can harm them nor stop them from raising Cain. NEWSFLASH: we have laws in this country and if they aren't followed then the consequences WILL get carried out. It's just a matter of finding the right people to do the job.
Michael is going to have to suffer for the rest of his life after what was done to him. No punishment is ever too great for his attackers.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 04:52:39 PMI live in a bad neighborhood, and I grew up in one too. I think these kids should get the death penalty by injection. I don't think that they would be reformed. It was a result of bad parenting, so what there are lots of bad parents out there. What do you mean by IT'S ONLY A HATE CRIME IF THE RACES ARE REVERSED? So, there's no such thing as a hate crime against a white kid? How do you know it wasn't one? You sound racist to me. I don't know for sure if it was a hate crime, I guess well find that out when we know what everyone said.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 05:53:57 PMWhy don't you f##### yo-boys go blow it out your ass!
Posted 11/01/2009 at 06:55:58 PMPEACEOUT!
Carla,
I stand corrected but that still doesn't excuse what happened here and I am not a racist. It can go both ways like you said.
Let's not go around pointing fingers at anybody except those kids. Whatever the judicial decides what happened and how to go about punishing the rat-bastards, I still think they should get the chair. That's the only way they would feel the constant pain Michael feels. If I were Michael I would want retribution, possibly to even take it into my own hands if the state doesn't take care of it; I don't care how young or old my attackers are, I would want them dead and that's what the chair is for.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 07:50:26 PMGaggy,
Who the hell are you trying to fool? These "punks" did something horrifying to someone else and they knew what they did was wrong. Did you or did you not read that one or two of them were actually laughing about the whole thing when they got arrested?
I don't know about you but it seems like those boys are cold-blooded killers if they laugh after setting their victim on fire. They're lucky he's still alive but once he's gone they'll realize they're done for.
The courts in Florida need to wise up and realize that the low-lifes deserve to get what is more than likely going to be their fate: 2,000 volts of electricity shooting up and down their bodies 'til it kills 'em.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 08:44:31 PMThese kids are not going to get the death penalty, we all know this. This country would not do that, ok? It does not mean that they don't deserve it. Someone should waite for them to get out. If it were my son, I'd waite for them you get it? It's good that you blow hearts are upset about all of this, but we need real constructive people to settle these types of offenses. We need people to actualy eliminate really evil people(like these kids) with a quick solution to get the message out that you will get death plan and simple. You don't need torture. And we need people who will study these cases, investigate, try to find reasons, patterns, PREVENTION! We need PREVENTION and JUSTICE. Thats's why I'm on here to read people's thoughts on why this has occured. And I'm not going to get much here.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 09:22:23 PMGaggy,
You are truly an idiot, and you proved that yourself with assuming I don't have "experience" with street trash.
I quote:
"From your invitation to Carla to "take a ride through the bad areas of Orlando, Jacksonville, Clearwater..." it is evident that you only drive through these areas with your windows up, your doors locked, and a slick sheen of fear sweat covering your old, flabby body. Perhaps if you had the courage to do the thing you so sarcastically ask Carla to do -- that is, to get out and "care" about the people you so casually dismiss as trash lowlife street thugs, you would find that they are not so very different from yourself."
Well, dipshit, I hate to burst your bubble, but I moved to Florida to retire earlyfrom the Newark NJ Police department (ever hear of it? The place was once known as the car-jacking capital of the country) after being SHOT in the left shoulder by an another "innocent" 15 year old kid while I was changing a tire for a woman - something that is not in my job description. It was either take the retirement, or be assigned a desk job and not be able to protect the city from animals like this anymore. So, yes, I have PLENTY of experience with these pieces of trash - over a decade worth. You, however, most likely have no experience, aside what you read in the paper, or watch on the news from your little protective, "perfect environment" you're in while spewing out things you know absolutely nothing about, and not doing it very well I may add. Have YOU ever been shot? Didn't think so. Now open mouth, and insert foot in it.
I am not "casually dismissing them" anything. It's a FACT you oblivious moron. They have "no way out"? Life is what YOU make it. No one is going to hand you the perfect life on a platter. It's called working for what you want - try it sometime. Society nor their parents failed them - THEY failed themselves.
As far as my "flabby" body". I am far from "flabby". I am 38 years old, and aside from the occasional shoulder pain from the little f*cker shooting me, I am in the best shape I've been my entire life. So, anytime you want to jump in the ring (beings you're as cocky as you are, I assume you are either a male, a lesbian, or just some lonely female that has nothing better to do than write paragraphs about how she thinks the perfect life should be), I'll be more than happy to hand your ass to you. You know, beings you are most likely used to people handing you everything. Better yet, let's fly up to NJ and I will drop you off in the middle of the worst area (you know, where the little innocent darlings hang out at all hours of the night), and see how long you last.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 10:19:00 PMEd,
Kudos to you. You told this piece of shit like it is.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 10:45:03 PMI use to walk through Baltimore at night looking for my prostitute sister who was hooked on heroin. the area where Michael lived didn't seem that bad. I think the rap culture is to blame for most of this trend. The rap artists made it kool to be evil and violent. My sister was one of the many stupid kids that followed it. I wanna here some people bash this homeboy/homegirl shit!! This garbage has made kids of all the races into poop. The parents being crappy is just part of the problem. STOP making getto shit kool!!! The parents embrace it too!! It's ruining this country.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 10:49:24 PMCarla,
You don't get the BIG fucking picture do you, lady?! RACE is entirely irrelevant in this situation. You keep being persistent in that this is based entirely on race.
IT AIN'T!
If you don't think these man-whores did this to Michael to show that they think they're superior over everyone else and to prove a point that they're not to be messed with then you need to get the hell out of here. These punks aren't anything except worthless excuses for kids and they continue to disgrace themselves with every breath of air they take.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 11:24:45 PMI IS ABOUT THE HARD-ASS, RAP, HOMEBOY, SHIT!!! THAT RAP TRASH has ruined alot of kids from all racial groups!! This country IS more violent BECAUSE of the GANSTA infulence. I'm NOT talking about R&B, I'm talking about the violent rap songs, artists, video games based on thugs and violence... This kind of GARRBAGE has screwed up kids and makes them think like street thugs.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 11:49:02 AMHow am I basing this on race? I'm talking about the street thug mentality in this country.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 02:01:04 PMI go to skool with micheal, and all the fiveboys.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 04:44:17 PMmicheal was at m house the friday before the attack.
he was running from the boys because they were ryin to jump him. my brother ran with him to my house, and he stayed there for dinner.
also the boys ripped his shirt when they tried to jump him, we offered to let him hav one my brothers shirt, and we wud wash his for him. but he never came back for his shirt... ;(
Carla,
The so-called "street-thug mentality" comes from mostly black nationalities. After that, it gets rubbed off on everyone else because they think it's the right way to act.
They don't know better so they just do what society tells them to do, even if it means harming someone who isn't one of their own. That's exactly what happened here. Even though there were only two black boys, all 5 of them banded together because of ehat they knew as a group even if they all weren't the same race.
They all grew up relying on their buddies for protection since their parents never gave a shit. If one person says to do something, the rest of them will follow suit without question. All the other factors are nothing. It's the leader-follower mentality.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 04:48:19 PM@I know him and all five boys...
Obviously you don't know what really happened. Michael went to Lime Tree apartments to visit a friend, hoping to avoid Matthew Bent. Unfortunately, that's not how things played out. Michael ran into Matthew and the rest is self-explanatory.
Here's a tip: Get your facts straight!
Posted 11/02/2009 at 04:58:53 PMI just SAID that the street thug mentality is and has been rubbing off on societies kids making them more violent! WHAT are you disagreeing with? We don't know if it WAS a hate crime yet. I SAID before that it sounds suspicous but that I don't know, and we won't know until we hear the whole story.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 05:36:50 PMJacob, why don't you ask your parents what they think, and maybee some of the kids at school. I'm not going to argue with a kid.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 05:45:02 PMOk everyone just shut the F up! We are getting nowhere by fighting about random shit that doesn't fit the case.
Read one of Ed's earlier posts explaining the Punishment Code written in the system. Notice it does not mention anything about race. It just mentions what happens to people that committ the crimes that the Florida 5 did. But since no one seems to want to grow a pair and step up to re-write the laws, most of you are probably right that they all will get off easy. Hopefully that won't be the case when those boys get out of juvie in a couple weeks.
Even if this WAS a racial crime, I still don't think they all should get let off with a slap on the wrist.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 07:16:20 PM@Everyone who talked about race and religion...
Posted 11/02/2009 at 07:33:26 PMI don't know how anyone could even mention the idea of race, religion, video games, rap music, street thug mentality, ect. to use as an excuse for what those boys did! Yes, it might affect people to an extent, I'm not denying that, but what those kids did was sick and physco. So before anyone starts to mention any of that, think of how stupid that really sounds when you think of the severity of those kids actions.
@Jacob
Let us know if we can do anything for Matthew and his family.
This certainly isnt the first time kids have hurt each other this way, its probably more common than we even realize.
Check out the story of Shandra Sharer http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/shanda_sharer/1.html
Her murderers came from supposedly good families.
Best wishes for Michael Brewer, hang in there buddy, thoughts and prayers are with you.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 07:40:12 PMGod Bless that poor kid. It's a shame. There's no excuse for anyone to do anything like this for any reason, especially without remorse. At 13 you know right from wrong and at 15 you sure as hell know right from wrong. Parents cannot be completely blamed b/c we control our own actions and we make our own decisions. And I don't know anyone at any age that would do something so horrible. These kids belong in jail, so I hope our justice system works out this time. They have changed that child's life forever, so for that their lives should be spent living out the consequences of their actions. They made a choice, now they should be adequately punished or how will they learn.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 07:49:03 PMHow can you people say that Muslims are worse? If this happened in a Muslim country, those kids would already be dead. Actually, the parents would have been publicly executed long before they were able to spawn. This is simply a great example of how the judicial system is SHIT. It is absolute shit. We lock people up for 25 years for selling pot, but they can attack other people, set them on fire, and face "aggravated assault"??? That is SHIT. It's attempted murder, for ALL of them, and they should spend half their lives in prison, then spend the other half on a very short leash. Evil fucks breed more evil fucks. They abuse and neglect their children until their children turn into sub-human entities of hate.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 07:53:33 PM@Ben
Posted 11/02/2009 at 08:05:52 PMWow thats pretty extreme. There's no reason to bring racism into this case. Everyone needs to stop this racism crap and grow up!
Another example of the benefits of diversity. Add this one to the Richmond CA rape case and third world trash is having a great year. On the upside however at least these kids have "street cred". Im sure in their garbage dwelling culture burning up a white boy earns a lot of points. And for all those white guilt ridden liberals race does matter. Stop drinking the Kool aid and wake up. The third world trash are the bigots.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 08:33:54 PMfirst of all i am 16 years old and i could not imagine someone doing this its horrible if those boys cannot be tried as adults they need to stay in juvi until until they are old enough to be.and second i think all the people sayin this has to do with religion is stupid./
Posted 11/02/2009 at 08:38:33 PMIt really has nothing to do with race. It's really a home grown ghetto problem we have here in America. Many Blacks, Hispanics and some Whites choose to embrace this defiant and evil ghetto culture, thanks in part to rap music. Years ago...Blacks and Hispanics worked very hard to get out of the ghetto and projects, and now rap music just glorifies the ghetto. People who don't like rap music and the ghetto culture are considered un-cool. These punks thought they were cool when they torched Michael, and desperately wanted to live up to the standards of their idols in the Hip Hop entertainment industry.The torching Michael Brewer is certainly nothing new, and will certainly intensify because
Posted 11/02/2009 at 09:15:00 PMthanks in part to rap music and bad parenting these days. I hope this poor kids gets better soon. I hope these punks spend a very long time behind bars. Maybe with a little luck they'll end up dying behind bars. They can just rot!!
We'll see if those dirt bag kids are laughing when they're getting ass fucked in prision.. Who'll be laughing then I wonder.
I'm so sick of this type of shit... All this over a fucking video game. geesh...
Posted 11/02/2009 at 09:47:21 PMTo all those who think that Michael being a "snitch" should be a mitigating factor in this whole affair, should really have your heads examined. You're really some sick individuals. I've read your sick posts, and makes me sick that I have to breathe the same air as you all do. I mean you really have some issues. You have absolutely no humanity left within you. You shouldn't be called humans because you fail to embrace the god awful savagery of this crime!!What lesson is their to be learned from this savage and brutal crime??
Posted 11/02/2009 at 10:18:11 PM@WhatTheHeck
I sure hope you mis-typed and meant "if there is anything you want us to do for Michael.
As for the rest of you after my last comment, THANK YOU for finally stepping up to the plate and realizing just what the hell is going on. It's about time I read some sensible comments about this.
@Ed
You're an ex-cop. Can't you do anything to see that those scumbags get the punishment they deserve?
Posted 11/02/2009 at 10:24:57 PMI wish there was.. I'm just an average angry citizen just like everyone else who posts here. There isn't a whole lot any of us can do at this point but wait and see (and hope) the prosecuting attorney has half of a brain and can find some kind of loophole in the out-dated laws. Unfortunately, like Pete responded, as it stands, the poor kid has to die for anything to really happen to these punks.
When I researched the information I posted, I was amazed at how poorly and vaguely the laws are written compared to those in NJ. I bump into a few local officers at the shooting range every weekend, and they just shake their heads at the whole thing too.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 11:15:24 PMEd,
I want to get an update on Michael and on the case itself as far as the Florida 5 go but I can't seem to find anything anywhere. I even Googled the hospital address where Michael is but I got many addresses and don't know which one is the correct one.
Maybe an earlier guest post' was right. Probably now, in case things take a turn for the worst and Michael passes on, the only way justice would be served to those kids is if they all got ass-raped when they got out of juvie.
I'm still keeping Michael in my thoughts but at the same time people need to get their stuff together and figure out a way to make the little bastards nonexistent.
Posted 11/03/2009 at 01:25:52 AMthis has nothing to do with muslims or christians. it's about a stupid little boy who wants a stupid bike and almosts kills someone for it, don't you feel so stupid.
Posted 11/03/2009 at 10:32:57 AMwhy is no one pointing out that this is a WHITE kid who was attached by NON WHITEs. where is the outrage? where are all the do gooders now? Jjackass rev (twana brawly)sharpton? please post the address and any other info about the non whites so the white world can make sure there life's are as hard as the victims will be. STAND UP WHITE PEOPLE this is what they (non whites) are they have no regard for life or whites or the usa.this should stand as a lesson to all white parents keep your kids away from non whites. They are all just one person when they do acts of violence ( which they do hourly around this country) but when a white looks at one the perceived wrong way the world must stop as they are a group (race) now demanding better treatment aka hand outs. what a laugh! we need to stop being blind to how they act who they blame and what they get from us the tax paying white middle class. This is a hate crime. who wants to bet they will be free before this poor kid is better. send donations to the family of young victim! Better yet remember this the next time one of them non whites ask you for something a hand out a job ect... remember this when you see non whites around your kids remember this when you have a chance to get even!!!! I already have! hang them all!!
Posted 11/03/2009 at 11:30:33 AM@Awhiteman
How many times do I have to tell you people that this is NOT a hate crime and it is not about race. It's a case about greed and authority. The supposed 'leader" of the Florida 5 (who the hell names their kid Matthew Bent anyway?) got too money hungry and decided to jump the gun on wanting the $40 bucks back pronto.
Matthew and his "gang" retaliated and did anything and everything they could just to get a little green in their pockets. And that's what happened; a teenager got set on fire over a stupid video game. Even worse, two of the 5 just stood there and did absolutely nothing while the poor kid tried to break out of the attack but couldn't: all for pocket change and a video game. I can't wait to see what the court hands out to each of the boys.
Posted 11/03/2009 at 12:30:09 PMI don't even know where to begin with this story... This is beyond unbelieveable.. I'm a 14 year old girl who lives in Virginia and when i heard this story, I was disguted. One of Michael's doctors said that she has seen alot of movies and hollywood hasn't even come up with soething this vial. Yes, i am a teen with strong feelings and I think its right that these boys are being charged as adults
Posted 11/03/2009 at 01:11:14 PMDierdre,
I applaud you for your right mindset; unlike these other folks, you're one of the very few that actually have a heart for this kid.
Posted 11/03/2009 at 01:27:40 PMWell I have returned to this board because I can't get this horrible crime out of my mind. It's absolutely unbearable. I would have never heard about this horrible attack if I had not seen it on CNN's website. I am really surprised that CNN would have covered this story for fear of sparking some low level race war of some kind. Anyhow I thought about Michael and his family all day while I was working. I just can't keep from thinking about it. Now to add insult to all the injury, I just read in the Miami Herald that these criminal punks will be released from custody if they are not charged as adults by Nov 12. Now what can we do to prevent these animals from ever being released from jail??? They should never get out!! Can we write or petition to the prosecutor or judge? We must stand united against the face of evil. It doesn't matter your skin color. We must do something to prevent them from being released. They must never be released!! What can we do???
Posted 11/03/2009 at 11:09:43 PMSign this and demand justice for Michael. If these criminals get away with what they did it will teach other criminals that there is absolutely no limit! Michael's uncle called this a chilling message to society and he is right. Tell everyone you know about this link.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 11:21:49 AMhttp://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
This is a terrible crime against this young boy, it is indeed a sign that America has lot its grasp on it's morales and what it views as imporatant. The reason i say that is all of this was over a 40 video game. We as Americans are so consumed by material things we will kill to attain them. I am a traveler of the world by occupation and i have seen the real horrors of how ugly this world is. But those things that i have seen were not envoked by a video game. Specially by teenage boys, something has to give before our America is nothing more than a nation of Criminals with no morales or shame. We were once a conservative nation with strong family ties and proud people. Now we sell our souls for modern appliences and material things that have no real value. As for what paul said about "If this was a muslim culutre I could understand." Well Paul i have lived in 3 Muslim countrys and i can tell you children there have no reason to committ such acts because survival is hard enough also they have Hchouma (Shame) and a core belief in God, something that is sleeping away from most mordern so called Christan families in America. Really there is no wonder why Islam is the fastet growing religion in the United States, people want a conservative life again. The fate of these boys who committed this awful act against Michael Brewer is in the hands of God. No one else. But i would like to see them publicy beaten like in Singapore. They dont play stupid games there.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 12:21:10 PMThis just goes to show you what happens to kids with worthless parents and a system that lets people offend again and again. Those kids don't even care that they almost killed that poor kid. I think we should set them all on fire or they will just grow up to kill someone later on in life because all they have been given is a slap on the wrist. Thier parents should also be charged. But I guess I am not surprised after all they are all lower class children.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 12:57:43 PMJacob, There were THREE black kids and TWO white kids that set Michael Brewer on fire. This was an attack on a kid by a gang of thug wannabes. This case needs to be throughly analyzed. YOU don't have all the answers. I would like to hear more thoughts on how this could occur. I would like to hear what GAGGY thinks, he sounds educated. I would like to here intellegent thoughts from EDUCATED people.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 05:05:14 PMCarla,
I think you still don't get the picture. No discussion is needed because we already know why this happened. All 5 boys are little ahits who don't give a damn about anyone else except themselves (yes, including the 13 year old prick). Their greed and arrogance has messed their lives up forever; and for what, 40 bucks and a damn video game? That is the STUPIDEST reason to ever light someone on fire.
I heard somewhere this case could carry arson charges on top of the battery and attempted murder charges. Frankly, I don't blame anyone one bit if arson came into in the mix.
And another thing Carla, you and Gaggy can go to hell because you both like to "discuss" why things happen when you already have all the facts in front of you. There is absolutely no need for discussion because it just wastes time. We know these boys did this to Michael and we sure as hell know why. Just LOOK at the pictures of the criminals' faces while they're in court. Denver's cold-blooded killer expression is the worst; not to mention only one of them had shown remorse.
You better check yourself before you make assumptions about other people. I most certainly am educated. I graduated high school and I'm in the process of going to med school to become a doctor. So before you snd your hubby Gaggy go around pointing fingers at other people, you both should be pointing fingers at yourselves because of how f*cked up you see things.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 06:53:59 PMDid anyone else watch that pathetic, scripted apology by the Jarvis mother?
Posted 11/05/2009 at 01:08:40 PMI just watched it and that was the most fake apology I ever heard. Those emotions were fake too. They don't give a crap about their kids and if they did, this kinda thing wouldn't have ever happened.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 01:46:43 PMThis was done out of hate and the boys who were arrested need to stay locked up for what they did. The Jarvis boys look absolutely PSYCHOTIC. I was not surprised at all to learn that Denver Jarvis had been the one to douse poor Michael Brewer with the alcohol after seeing the evil look in Denver's eyes in all his photographs. And if any of those boys are crying now, then they SHOULD be. Too bad their idiot lawyer doesn't think of the CRYING that poor Michael has done and how his poor mother cries every day. The boys who ganged up on Michael DESERVE to be locked up and they clearly have no remorse. The only thing they are really crying about is their own fate. I hope they all spend many years behind bars and maybe they'll discover what it feels like to be frightened, attacked and nearly killed. Maybe then they might know what they did to someone else. Maybe some day they will learn what real remorse is and never hurt someone again.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 02:06:43 PMYou DON'T know why these kids really did what they did. You DON'T know why kids are more violent these days. YOU don't give a shit! That's why this country is going to shit, because of people like YOU. You DON'T have any thing intellegent to say.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 03:34:58 PMCarla, go stuff another twinkie in your mouth.
Who cares WHY they did it. Let me guess, you want to hire an independent third party to analyze the situation? Dwelling on WHY they did it won't prevent it from happening again, moron.
Maybe kids are more "violent" today because of idiots like you put their kids on Ritalin and other mind altering drugs because they are slightly more hyper and you can't handle them.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 03:51:58 PMThis is awful. To all of you who have commented on this talking about Mike in bad, judgmental terms: you are ridiculous. The poor boy was set on fire for absolutely no reason. Stupid idiotic people who TRY to run the lives of everyone else(like the remedial assholes who set him on fire) I personally think that they are just PATHETIC. Grow up really. For anyone who disagrees with that; you are JUST as pathetic as them. Oh and if you would have actually read the article, Mike DID jump in the pool.
And for those of you having religious debates on this, that's really insensitive. We are talking about a boys life who is in danger of dying right now, NOT ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL RELIGOUS BELIEFS. GET A LIFE AND HAVE A HEART.
INSENSITVIES DICKS.
We all have you in our thoughts Mike. Hold on and Stay strong. We're rooting for you!
Posted 11/05/2009 at 05:35:39 PMWell first of all 65% of his body was burnt second of all what does this have to do with being muslum ,christian,or jewish. No one gives a crap about that.I'm 12 years old and now im scared to even go outside.This was a cruel joke.I read that one of the boys who set Michael on fire had an attourney. And their saying that they should let the suspects go. I mean come on they set the boy on fire. They should be charged with adult charges no one cares if one is thirteen and the other is fifteen. No one cares if its a law. And if they don't charge the thirteen year old with adult charges then he should go to juvy for life( as in life i mean you get out when your 21)
Posted 11/05/2009 at 08:43:20 PMWell anyway, Michael I hope you recover soon and all my prayers go to you.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 08:48:08 PMChrisc your right neo your comment was so stupid and in a way races your a (excuse my language ) but your a dumb a*s why the hell would you say that all muslums are evil and that the united states is christian your freakin stupid go read a social studies txt book because not all america is full of christians im christian but that doesnt mean anything im puerto rican and let me tell you something i've met athiest, jewish,muslums,mormons ,prespitirians ,etc.So next time you say that all america is christian , actually look around you. FYI thats what immigratins all about. It brings culture and new traditions and languages to this land so look at people who are different and actually learn and take intresrt in them.( that had nothing to do with Michael but i just had to let all of you know).
Posted 11/05/2009 at 08:58:22 PMBianca,
Posted 11/05/2009 at 09:28:08 PMI feel sorry for you kids & your generation. When I was a kid there were consequences for bad behavior. At a young age we learned that if we misbehaved or disrespected others or property, we would get spanked. (Not beaten like some abusive parents do now)
Parents, Grandparents, Teachers, Family Friends, The Nanny, basically anyone that had authority over a child at the time was given permission by the parents, because parents wanted their children to grow up to live respectfully & lawful lives in society.
It didn't hurt much and the sting didn't last long... just long enough to make you think twice before you would do it again. Parents and extended families supported one another; the community also helped raise the children. If a family was needy, those that had would help out. It takes a whole community to raise good citizens. People can't be afraid to speak up. If a child is doing something wrong, anyone should be able to tell them that is not acceptable. The parent shouldn't get in their face. Laws also must be just, fair, and enforced. Wrong doers must be held accountable, even if they are only 13. These kids lived with self-indulgent, deviant family members. Society did not intervene. Laws now actually prevent teachers and extended family members from taking charge when the parents refuse or are neglectful.
I'm so sorry child, this is the world you have inherited... Maybe you can grow-up smarter than us and change where we have failed.
okay, so for anyone saying 'muslims are worse' or 'no christians are' shut up. you're an idiot. that's stereotyping. religion, does not change whether or not someone will light another kid on fire?! what does it matter? it doesn't. also, to the people who wished the accused dead.. go to hell. you're just as bad!
Posted 11/05/2009 at 09:52:19 PMthis article made me incredibly sad, and i hope michael will recover as soon as possible. and i hope for all the accused, they figure out how bad they've messed up, and learn for to do better in the future.
what would posess a kid my age to destroy the life the life of another teen or scare them fr life. sometimes I wish the death penalty was still legal because if he dies I think either jail or that should be the punishment. America is becoming to sensitive to the lives of criminals. It is sad and shameful if the disgusting teens responsible do not get exactly what they deserve.
Posted 11/05/2009 at 10:03:36 PMall five kids should be try as adults..........and who cares if jeremy javirs is depressed or crying he should of thought of that before he decided to be a part of michaels attack....... michael is crying in pain more then poor little jeremy lock them all up and throw away the key
Posted 11/06/2009 at 10:32:44 AMYeah, Carla - shut the frig up. YOU are the one who has nothing intelligent to say. Why don't you go sit in on the court hearings for the boys, kiss their SOUL-LESS lawyers asses and tell the media that they torched a boy because they have UNHAPPY CHILDHOODS. Oh, the POOR dears! Spare me the drama. Some kids and adults do MEAN things out of being EVIL, not because they're depressed. People like me are very aware of the difference and YOU have no idea why they did what they did, so YOU can't say either. BUT it seems to ME that it had nothing to do with goddamn depression or something else like it. I believe these kids were PISSED and they are mean enough in their hearts to douse a boy with flammable liquid before lighting him on FIRE. And here YOU are making bleeding heart excuses for why those boys did this?? GO TALK TO MICHAEL AND HIS FAMILY... I am not to blame for this country going to shit, my dear. I happen to live with a wonderful lady who had done serious prison time as a young teenager and she is reformed now. BUT I am smart enough to know the difference between people like HER and people like these boys. Not everyone is sorry, having an emotional problem or is able to reform. Some people really do evil things because that is how they feel at that moment and they are likely to repeat it. In my EXPERIENCED opinion, I believe that those boys did it out of being evil, there was a motive, they acted out of anger and did something they KNEW could KILL that boy. They did it anyway, laughed about it and now they are crying because they don't want to pay what they owe for the actions they took. You have nerve defending them.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 10:56:53 AMLet's also not forget that Michael's nightmare is far from over. His pain is not just physical, either and it will be permanent because of those rotten kids. Imagine someone stealing from your family and when you report it to police, a group of kids corner you, push you around, cursing at you and blame YOU for why the cops knocked on their door. Imagine these THEIVES holding you down, blaming you for the problem, pouring liquid on you, KNOWING they were about to toss FIRE on you. You have NO IDEA how frightening that must have been for Michael. To feel that fire rip through his skin in a pain that cannot be desribed. To see his own skin bubble and blister and his clothes melt into his skin until his flesh resembles the top of a pizza. All the while, these EVIL kids are blocking him from running! They see him frantically trying to out out this excrutiating painful fire. They hear his SCREAMING and pleading, but all they can do is LAUGH??!!
Posted 11/06/2009 at 11:14:29 AMMichael will be lucky if he even survives what those asshole boys did to him. And how lucky will Michael really be? He will most likely spend the rest of his life traumatized by what happened. He may be horrible disfigured and who knows what his school experiences would be like? Hard to find dates? Being teased by more assholes at school because of how he looks? He'll have emotional scars and nightmares that other people don't know about. Hopefully he will be able to overcome that damage. And will his body function well enough to supprot himself as an adult? Or have those boys ruined his life at such a young age? Michael's suffering, pain and grief is far beyond what any of those boys will endure. They deserve to be locked up for years and I hope they are crying. Little SHITS should be. They need to wake the fuck up and so do other kids like them and learn not to do the things that you KNOW are wrong. I guess it doesn't occur to TRASH that if you don't want people to "snitch" on you, then DON'T BE A SCUMBAG, STEALING PEOPLE'S THINGS! Buy your own fucking bike! Don't fuck with people's things and nobody has a reason to snitch. Those boys started the whole problem, let the DO THE TIME.
Blame your politicians (and most of us - citizens) for the quantity of crimes in america. We as country are FAR to soft on criminals. Every one of these bad kids have parents who have commmited crimes and did not pay for them, and therefore were not reformed in any way. Sounds like most of these bad kids have so as well. Until we learn to punish people swiftly and harshly, people will have no respect for the law, or peoples rights. THis act is so heinous that it goes beyond criminal activity to sadistic, immoral behavior. These kids show no regard for life or for mercy - they are a huge future threat to society.
For any of you living in the area where this occured, call your local politician and DEMAND these kids serve SERIUOS time for their action. No one did it when their parents committed crimes, or when the kids themselves did in the past. If no one does it now our system will fail again, and they WILL cause more harm.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 12:49:58 PMWow Ramson,I just read your post after submitting mine. What you said was well written, and unfortunately very accurate. THis child will NEVER have a normal life again. He will deal with this forever. Anyone not seeing the level of current and future harm that has come to him is blind. I too believe these kids are monsters - really I do. This was a premeditated horrible crime. Anyone who could do this, and laugh about even after seeing how horrible it actually was, truly is a monster. I would want to know if these kids were living anywhere near me and my family because I do now and will always consider them a threat.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 01:16:51 PMI hope our elected officials will see to it that these kids are punished severely and hopefully someday, 20 years from now, release as reformed and productive citizens of our society, instead of the evil they currently are.
FINALLY I'm seeing comments on this forum that are actually starting to make sense!
Posted 11/06/2009 at 02:48:38 PMhttp://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
Posted 11/06/2009 at 03:55:38 PMPlease sign the petition today for Michael Brewer so that these disturbed criminals are tried as adults.
Ramson, What the fuck are you talking about? I never said anything about the kids being depressed or feel sorry for them! Where are you getting this shit! Seriously, are you so stupid that you don't even understand what I wrote in my blogs?
Posted 11/06/2009 at 06:08:38 PMOMG this is terrible! you right neo all muslims are evil and all christians are good
Posted 11/06/2009 at 06:40:34 PMCarla,
Ramson couldn't be any more right about what he said; you just choose to not accept the fact that he IS right. You just want to sit in that chair in front of that TV, be lazy and argue with everyone.
Sasha,
This is NOT about religion. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's all greed and authority.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 06:50:27 PMThis is about the lost morals in this country.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 06:50:51 PMAll of you people think that it is so easy to put out a fire especially when it is on a living, breathing, human when really, it isn't! The little juveniles should be killed. Sending them to jail and releasing them in a few years (which they might do) is RIDICULOUS!!! They will just end up doing the exact same thing again like every other criminal does! All of you need to grow up and stop being so rude and giving all of these criminals chances to make up their stupid mistakes.
From,
WOW!! you guys are religious and racist
Posted 11/06/2009 at 07:08:49 PMJust because I am concerned about the violence of kids in America today doesn't make me an old lady. For your info. I am an educated twenty-nine year old woman. I grew up poor, uneducated. The people were trash and most of the kids ghetto. From my experience, The parents had to have money to keep their kids innocent and safe. Otherwise, the kids were often victims to all the predators(evil people) out there. The innocent kids were thought of as weak and got picked on by meat-heads. There use to be some normal neighborhoods with good and bad kids. Nowadays, bad kids are not just troubled but are often evil. I have put myself though college (after fighting ghetto biches and staying away from thug losers.) It is up to our generation of young people to change the loser mentality that many kids face. It's up to us to make "ghetto" uncool.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 09:04:11 PMYou guys who keep attacking my blogs are threatened by what I am saying. You all are probibly a bunch of hard-ass wannabes "thug yo boys" Does it upset you that I think homeboys are slugs? Evil doesn't want the truth to get out.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 09:12:11 PMUh-oh guys, she's cowering in the corner. HAHAHAHA! You're pathetic, you know that, Carla? PA-THE-TIC! If what I just read was a petty excuse for trying to suck up to us then you failed miserably to get your point across and could have actually won the argument. But, no. You lost.
A little hint: Life is too short to go into detail about things, lady.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 10:53:53 PMBe cool, Jacob. A good man is always polite to the ladies, even when he disagrees with what they're saying.
Posted 11/06/2009 at 11:58:45 PMI get you, Pete, but this chick is really pissing me (and probably the other 400 posters) off with the comments she has made over the last few days. She does not make sense. There is no need for discussion as to why this happened to Michael. It's all right here in front of us in black and white, plain as day. Yet, Carla just wants to rationalize everything. She doesn't realize the fact that some people are just evil for no reason at all and they don't give a crap about anyone else except themselves.
I'm not even sure we are still on the subject of a burn victim here. Thanks to Neo and his moronic comments, things have REALLY been getting out of hand. I don't know what else to do.
The fact that Michael has to spend 5-plus months in a burn unit, is scarred for life and has to endure the physical and emotional pain (which will also make it worse every time he looks at himself in the mirror) infuriates me as well as the ignorant and arrogant comments some of these people made.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 12:36:00 AMI hear you, Jacob, but we still gotta be cool, just like you were in this last post.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 09:59:15 AMi am a burn survivor, and in many ways similar to michael's story. i was 15, it was gasoline [an accident in my case], but also 65% of 2nd and 3rd degree burns. i can attest that the boy is in for a rough recovery, to understate the obvious. and yes, the emotional and physical scars are permanent. but know that the other boys will get their day. it is unfortunate such an act was conducted, but let us not weep, let us not wax indignant, let us understand and be good people.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 01:40:55 PMThis is horrible. I am so sorry for this boy and what the family is having to see him go through. The families of these boys seem to not be ideal roll models but as a person who has dealt with deliquent children 13 and 15 years old know right from wrong and by any means have no excuse for what they have done. I know a child who's father was killed when she was little over drugs and mother in and out of prison for drug trafficing and she chose to not make that an excuse of evil but a reason to do better. She is in the airforce taking care of her family and herself. I believe they need serious intervention or they will continue to grow and think they can get away with criminal activity as adults.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 09:32:10 PMWhy are they not being charged with attempted 1st degree murder is what I'd like to know. They obviously had a plan to cause harm to this boy. They had a lighter and rubbing alcohol with them. I suppose they were smoking and thats why they had the lighter and had the alcohol in case one of them got a "boo boo". I doubt it.
Many prayers are needed for many people.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 10:32:26 PMDebra, it's because of the poorly written Florida laws (see my posts above), that's why. It's sad that unless this kid dies, they wont get the punishment they deserve.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 10:47:05 PMFrom the article: "Weirdly enough, the most empathetic of the bunch is 15-year-old Jose Mendez, the kid who lit Michael on fire. Sheriff's deputies say he was the only one to show remorse after the crime. He was reportedly going through a troubled patch at the time of the incident. His parents were divorcing, and dad was no longer around. Mendez's mom moved to a better neighborhood to get him away from the rotten kids, but that obviously didn't work. "
I sure hope this isn't to make us feel sympathy for Jesus Mendez. If he had set himself on fire it might have been a different story. I remember he said something like, "I just wanted to see what would happen."
Psychopath.
Posted 11/07/2009 at 11:23:33 PMMany prayers for Michael Brewer and his family,
Posted 11/07/2009 at 11:49:58 PMAs a parent my question to these parents who spawned the monsters that planned out such a horrifying ,evil plan against this victim, their premeditated crime against Michael Brewer is as sick as the actions of the worst serial killers, is why do you even exist, you and what you gave this world is violent,sick and ugly, you all should be THANKFUL the monsters you put upon society were not set on fire like their victim--your less than animal beings you call your offspring LAUGHED after they saw the horrible damage and incomprehensable pain they inflicted on another teen, it would be in the best interset for our society that you and your wannabe scumbag murders be setenced to life w/ no chance of parole, and that is getting off lightly, you all are monsters and are only sorry because you were caught, you do not fool anyone.you are lucky there is no justice.
I say kill them all, child molesters, liitle rug rats who do adults crimes, And ALL MUSLIMS!!! Look what they are doing to us. They should not be allowed to serve in our Military.. Its a shame. My family is praying for the Brewer Boy.. May God be with him...
Posted 11/08/2009 at 02:56:07 AMI can't believe this is happening in America- Land of opportunity... saying thing such as "KILL THEM ALL... MUSLIMS INCLUDED". Obviously, what these teenagers did was wrong. It's wrong within any race, any culture. Setting someone on fire is a brutal act whether its by kids, adults, teenagers- whomever- its wrong. It makes you question, what are parents doing these days or what are kids learning from the internet or television to think that a video game and snitching is worth setting someone on fire over.
I am 18 years old and was born and raised in America, by MUSLIM parents. I will tell you one thing, I don't know whether there's a God or not, but I believe in a higher power. If you as human beings don't realize that religion is determined by ACCIDENT OF BIRTH then I understand who is setting the examples of why kids are doing such horrible things. Religion really is bullshit, it just makes people fight and teach them "morals"... morals such as saying "kill them all". I didn't choose to be born to a Muslim family, just like how you didn't choose to be born to a Christian family or just like the Hindu didn't choose to be born to a Hindu family. It is all accident of birth. We do not choose our parents, our looks or where we are to be born, so UNDERSTAND THAT HUMANS. Know right from wrong and if you think being racist is right then i honestly feel sorry for you.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 06:28:16 AMI got so caught up with what I wanted to say that I forgot the most important thing... what I meant to say.
I really hope that Michael is going to recover from this and I hope that he prospers and changes the world in some positive way. I'm sorry that something like this had to happen. I'm really sorry.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 06:32:40 AMKeep bumping this up on the list (from other posters.)
"Write to Maria Schneider and let her know you want them charged as adults!! 201 SE 6th Street, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301, Attn: Juvenile Division. These kids need to be locked up forever and if the public cries out, it will be done!!
gal3601 (11/03/2009, 4:02 PM )"
And:
"Support this petition asking that these boys be charged as Adults....please....your signatures may stop such hate crimes.
http://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
Support4All (11/03/2009, 3:56 PM )"
Online donations are accepted at www.cbs4.com/neighbors or www.neighbors4neighbors.org.
Checks can be made to Neighbors 4 Neighbors Family Fund with Michael Brewer's name in the memo line. The address is 8900 NW 18th Terrace, Miami, FL, 33172.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 09:19:54 AMIt is sad Ed, unfortunately in this Country a man who sells narcotics to people who choose that life style is more likely to receive more time then a person that tries or succeeds in murdering someone.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 10:44:27 AMCarla, under my post you had slammed me and I saw no reason for that. Are YOU so fucking STUPID that you can't figure that out? And no, everything I was saying in my post was NOT pertaining to anything in your own posts. I was simply stating my own opinions. Hope we got that cleared up.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 10:47:58 AMTo everyone else who agrees with my viewpoints, thank you. I can honestly say that I don't automatically want to just lock 'em up and throw away the key. I personally know someone who did time as a young teenager as an accomplice to murder. But that person was nothing like these boys who attacked Michael Brewer. The person I know had no hands-on involvement and has true remorse for what happened. The person served nearly 10 years, missing out on childhood, and is now a productive member in society. But sadly, there are some people who are incorrigible. Bad beyond reform with no remorse for what they have done and a lack of respect for life. Bad people can do good things and good people can do bad things. In the case of the boys who burned Michael Brewer, we are looking at kids who have something bad in them and it may not ever be worked out of them. Society is better off without them on the streets. The kind of kids who would begin their lives by trying to burn someone to death are the kind of kids who are destined to continue committing crimes and spend years behind bars. Hope the law nips these assholes in the bud and keep trash like them off the street so we can be safe. Let 'em cry. They should be crying and they don't even know what's ahead of them in lockup!
It's sad that these boys thought to throw all of their lives away, but the perps must pay for such a heinous crime. They need to suffer something for what they've done to the victim.
What would be a just sentence? I think a minimum of 20 years in jail without chance of parole. Anyone else?
Posted 11/08/2009 at 10:59:51 AMRamsom, your post have been mostly right on. The posts that are interjecting race, ethnicity, and religious are only inciting hatred. These bias have nothing to do with the burning of Michael Brewer. It would be more productive for Michael's interest if people would remember that, and stop inciting bad feelings.
To Alliana Khan, I must say I agree with you and although I consider myself a Christen, I try to walk in the ways that Jesus Christ taught us. This is how I grew up as you suggest. I have also studied Islam and Buddhism. The true form of both religions mirror much of what I was taught. I take a lot of what is written in the Bible and other holy books as man-made ideas and conjecture. Probably motivated by self interest and lack of knowledge of what the creator really would want. If people use common-sense, they would realize that, if humans were created by a higher power in heaven that, that higher power would not want us to destroy what he/she/it created.
Now once again I would like to express my wish for Michael to have a speedy recovery and I pray that God (my name for our higher power), will be with you Michael & ease your pain. Best wishes to the whole Brewer family and friends. I'll send out another contribution to your fund as soon as I can. Wish I could do more.
Anyone wishing to help:
"Write to Maria Schneider
201 SE 6th Street
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
Attn: Juvenile Division.
Let the DA know you want the perps charged as adults even if you don't live in FL. (Criminals cross state lines) If the public cries out loud enough, the DA will have to act. Justice is for the victim; harsh punishment is to protect society from becoming a future victim, vengeance is the Lords.
And please:
E-sign the following petition asking that these guys be charged as adults.
Your signatures may help stop such crimes.
http://mbrewer.epetitions.net/
(Also send a loud message to the Supreme Court, which is currently reviewing this very issue.)
Support Michael Brewer and his family:
Online donations accepted at: www.cbs4.com/neighbors
or
www.neighbors4neighbors.org.
Put Michael Brewer in the "Intention to donate" line
Make Checks to: Neighbors 4 Neighbors Family Fund
Posted 11/08/2009 at 12:25:04 PMThe address is: 8900 NW 18th Terrace, Miami, FL 33172
Write Michael Brewer's name in the memo line.
Thanks Everyone for the Support
Cow Girl,
I think a "just" sentence would be to give these punks life without parole. Let the criminals who are already in the Big House deal with them. I think today's worst criminals would take no delight in having a few 15 year old attempted-murderers around them.
I also like Ed's version of a good sentence: still get locked up for life but take 12-hour shifts in a burn unit such as Ryder, taking care of burn victims, changing their bandages daily and such. I think that might give them a serious reality check and make them think about how badly they messed up Michael's childhood.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 01:29:21 PMJacob and Others:
Posted 11/08/2009 at 02:59:23 PMWould you want these little sadistic bastards working with you if you were a vulnerable patient?
I worked in a burn unit and rehab, with burn patients. I can tell you that burn patients would not want these little bastards anywhere near them. Working with anyone in this situation takes way more empathy and intelligence then any of these idiots will ever have. I have also been burned with second & third degree burns. Mine were nothing compared to what Michael (and farnad darnell; earlier post) is going through.
Even an inexperienced, but empathetic person could cause more pain than necessary. I couldn't imagine a sadist like these guys anywhere near any patients at Ryder.
Hospitals don't want anyone working or volunteering there, unless they want to be there, and have the appropriate personality, to work with people in that type of environment.
Support the Victim,
Ok, so maybe those boys don't need to go to Ryder but they do need to be put into some sort of situation which will make them realize they f*cked up when they tried to kill Michael.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 06:59:05 PMAgreed Jacob
Because of the screwed up legal system, the best we can hope for. and demand for the 13 yr old is to spend the rest of his youth in Juvie. Maybe he will be forced to get counseling and an education. He'll probably end up back in the legal system anyway, but he surely will if they give him back to one of his family members.
The other guys can be tried as adults. The DA should be pressured to throw as many charges at them as possible. This was a premeditated attack. This is evident by the fact that the whole group of boys just happened to be together in the same place, with a lighter, and the real clincher... a container of rubbing alcohol (a flammable substance). One of the boys, or another one of their cohort, that has not yet been ID'd, probably saw Michael hanging out at the Apt complex and alerted the others. They all had a plan, I'm sure to retaliate. They grabbed the first and easiest flammable substance, that they could find at one of the kids homes. They wanted to get the "snitch" back. He was going to pay. They went to where Michael was; they surrounded him, probably pushed him around a bit, as the testosterone & bravado increased, because they were all there backing each other up...escalating the situation with the courage one gets from being in a supportive group... well we all know the rest. Michael couldn't get away. I'm sure he tried to walk away from them, but they wouldn't let him.
So far, you tell me what charges are we looking at? I know there are some cops on this blog.
How about Arson, Attempted Murder, Kidnapping, Intimidation of a Material Witness, Assault and Battery, what did I miss?
Its time to contact the DA, and demand the harshest charges be filed. Let the Judge know how reprehensible the public finds these defendants. They will be safer in prison anyway. Some vigilante may seek justice denied.
Contact the DA at:
Maria Schneider
201 SE 6th Street
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
Attn: Juvenile Division.
and please don't forget the Brewer Family. They need all the help and support they can get right now.
Posted 11/08/2009 at 10:48:08 PMThe kid got what was coming. Only good rat is a dead rat. 10 bucks says michael brewer was a little punk too that pissed off alot of people. Karma.
Posted 11/09/2009 at 12:08:24 AMTerrell D.,
Your a F*cking coward! Same type of punk ass that can't do anything w/o a gang. Sorry low-life bottom feeders like you are the reason why abortion should stay legal.
Sorry to everyone else here. I don't like personal attacks but this is all Jackwipes like this understand.
Posted 11/09/2009 at 06:56:06 AMSupport the Victim,
You nabbed everything as I would have thought. I'm thinking that any number of people had been involved besides the 5 that surrounded Michael. Not only do the judges need to throw every charge in the book at the delinquents, they need to check all their cell phone records. I'm just willing to bet that Michael's "friend" he visited was a part of the whole plot too.
And another thing; I just find it very hard to believe that these boys "found" the rubbing alcohol and "found" the lighter.
Ed,
Would you like to bring your cop expertise to the table showing us what else could be thrown at the boys?
Posted 11/09/2009 at 02:56:20 PMJacob,
The laws are so much different down here compared to where I am from. I can't even begin to speculate what the prosecutor has in mind, but I guess we will know soon, as I believe the extension is almost up.
Posted 11/09/2009 at 03:22:57 PMOk I just read some really dumb BS about the prosecuting of the 5 boys. Bent, older Jarvis and Mendez got charged as adults with second-degree attempted murder then the lame-brain prosecution team turned around and let the other two scott-free, "for now", they say.
What's up with that?
Posted 11/09/2009 at 10:22:23 PMWOW! Why is everyone over the religion thing and how racism appears in this. A KID JUST GOT LIT ON FIRE! All you guys go on talking about is this stupid crap when a boy is in critical condition.
Posted 11/09/2009 at 11:16:51 PMBet the government is PAYING these scum to continue having kids that they don't want, need or care about. Please print how much SSI, food stamps, welfare checks, housing, etc. that WE TAXPAYERS are contributing to these animals.
Posted 11/10/2009 at 11:49:10 AMp.s. Will the bleeding hearts let these kids go free because of their "bad home life"? If they get off, then the local parole officers, court admins. etal should be charged (and sued) instead.
I say...
Sell tickets for $20.00 each at the biggest stadium in available. Bring those 5 little S**TS to that stadium, put them on center stage one by one, pour alcoholic on them and then set them of FIRE. Then give the money to Michael and his family.
I'll pay to watch those a**holes burn!!!
Posted 11/10/2009 at 12:37:21 PMWow, I am just blown away at how pathetic this DA is at doing their job.
I honestly think they should step down from this case. This is such a heinous crime and the public is DEMANDING JUSTICE and SAFETY, from these defendants. The only thing I can surmise, is that the DA is personally afraid, of going to court. Is it because of inexperience? I bet this DA's record, is to settle 90% or more of their cases out of court; so they don't actually have to form an intelligent argument. (If I'm off base or out of line, I apologize. The public needs answers to why this case is not being handled more aggressively.) This is of National interest; because criminals cross state lines. I don't want Jeremy Jarvis released in FL to show up in my neighborhood in **, even if he is home schooled.
The two guys that are being released, were not just innocently watching the action. They were most likely in on planning of this crime (Conspiracy), and forcing Michael to stay where he was so the other Perps could carry out the act. (Kidnapping-meets two counts in the statute I looked up, False Imprisonment-the more likely count to convict on, and Intimidation of a witness-bike theft case)
If the DA had any imagination at all they would go after these guys on a child abuse charge too. It fits the statute. Here's a link for you to all the FL statutes, I looked up:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0775/titl0775.htm&StatuteYear=2009&Title=%2D%3E2009%2D%3EChapter%20775
Posted 11/10/2009 at 12:58:20 PMCheck it out. I found several things to charge all these boys with, and could make a reasonable argument. The DA should, at the very least, charge the boys, they plan to release, with an adult misdemeanor crime. That way they would be in the system, and in line for habitual criminal status, if they continue to commit future crimes.
Okay, having been reading most of this some of you people scare me.
We see the news and wonder how 5 children can set a boy on fire... having read half of the comments i can see where it came from.
What they did makes me sick to my stomach, the human race has reached self-destruct, more and more children kill and mame other children. Shameful truth is, there are good people in this world, unfortunatly the good doesn't make it onto the news very often.
200 years ago those boys would have been killed publicly for what they did, but we as a race should have gone beyond the need for public burnings. Yes I firmly believe they should be severly punished for what they did. I believe prison for life personally, they stole his chance for a normal life, take away theirs by locking them away.
Those of you who are arguing religon, EVERY religon regardless of age, origin, belief, creed has the possibility of being violent, but this is not about religon, or race. This is about 5 mixed up children thinking it is okay to set a boy on fire over $40.
Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, "why did he not jump into the pool?" he was 15, scared, in pain, his face being burned, his eyes no doubt closed to protected himself. Fear, terror, tremendous pain, yeah... lets see some of you think clearly when your body is on fire.
Posted 11/10/2009 at 01:10:17 PMSome of these people leaving comments and such need to open your eyes and realize this was not a religious attack..maybe if these kids grew up in church (christian churches) this may not have happened. Christians have made some wrong choices, however; this was not a religious crime. Those of you who say christians "evolved" or anything to that sort need to quit being so open minded. Christians purpose in this world is to live for God and share his word with nonbelievers in hope they will see they truth. These kids need that, they needed a religious upbringing. Maybe they will find forgivness. But they do need to be punished. No child should have to be set on fire..with people like this, it proves this world is going straight to hell in a handbasket because people repell Jesus Christ and end up with sedistic children, who find repaying someone as setting them on fire.
Posted 11/10/2009 at 03:05:53 PMHow's this for an idea regarding prosecution. Use the "Organized Crime" charge against any gang type crime. Most of the shit they do is "organized criminal activity". Let's start trying them in the Federal courts. I don't care if it's stealing hub caps. That's where it starts and only escalates when all they get is "juvie" or a slap on the wrist from the local courts.
Posted 11/10/2009 at 03:28:24 PM"GW said:
So what if Christians are historically as bad. They AREN'T anymore because they evolved socially out of the middle ages. Muslim countries have not."
Oh sure. Tell that to anybody that has been bombed or shot at an abortion clinic. Or to Jews that were abandoned by the Catholic Church during WWII. How about the Evangelicals that are constantly working within our military to foster an actual crusade?
Fundo wack jobs are fundo wack jobs regardless of their particular "faith".
Posted 11/10/2009 at 05:38:06 PMThe chain stops only after you punish the parent. Yes. the problem ALWAYS "stems" from the caregiver or parent. No one said parenting is easy. It is a job. It is the same with pedophiles. Get this trash off the streets, and keep them away from society. Period.
I am sick of reading about bandaids; laws to help victims, laws to help us locate the monsters. Who cares!!! Get the monsters off the streets. This news story is yet another example of judicial systems going sour. The writer is absolutely correct; had the one boy's father been in jail; the child would never have been born.
RAISING A CHILD IS A PRIVILEGE, A HARD AND LONG JOB NEVER TO BE IGNORED.
Posted 11/10/2009 at 07:06:33 PMI just have one question. Why didn't social services intervene the kids should have been taken from there parents along time ago?
Posted 11/10/2009 at 07:24:05 PMTo all people who have said that burning MB over a video game is stupid:
I agree. they shouldnt have lit the kid on fire. but the video game isnt the reason.
its pride. by not paying up, MB disrespected the Kids involved. they lit him on fire to show him whose boss.
The ringleaders father was arrested a couple years back for stabbing someone with sissors, so its pretty apparent the Kid had little parental guidence
I'm NOT supporting the Kids who did this!!!
P.S. cut the religeous crap! you sound like my little sister and her friends (actually your even worse) and shes 9. Grow the hell up!!!
Posted 11/10/2009 at 08:51:24 PMTo POPTART.... it IS stupid to burn anyone over a video game, bike or what have you. I know you said you are NOT supporting the kids who did this....don't support their excuses...for as many senseless crimes that there is today, there is always a reason as to why they did it. This is all due a lack of parenting and the judicial system not doing their jobs. These kids should have all been taken away from such losers. Just because you spawn a child doesn't make you a parent. The problem with all of this is the same as every where else: NO ACCOUNTABILITY.... no one take responsibility for their actions or lack there of. If kids can go to the store every day and get away with stealing things from the store every day, with NO punishment, why would they ever stop? It's always someone else's fault, the school, society, being poor, being black in today's world. When kids and adults are held accountable for their own actions and have to genuine consequences the FIRST time they get in trouble, rarely would it progress to this state. I hope they all go to prison for the rest of their lives. If they have this much disregard for human life at this age, think of them roaming your neighborhoods after your kids get out of school in the afternoon, or roaming your streets at night while you sleep. Do any of you want them as your future nighbor next to YOUR children?
Posted 11/10/2009 at 09:52:34 PMThere r bad muslims and bad christians and bad all Religions everyone is equal ok. Anyways god bless Michael and his parents. SO SAD WHATS HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD
Posted 11/10/2009 at 10:53:18 PMi just listened to the 911 call. Im 27 years old and have seen a lot of things in my life that are cruel andf just sick. that phone call with the kid screaming in the background was just too much for me to handle. Im amazed the kid didnt go unconscious from the excruciating pain he was in. I kind of wish he did because i dont even want to think about how badly it must hurt. I just read a book 2 months ago called fish, which is a term for new kids in prison. i hope these kids get what happened to the guy in the book every single day for the rest of their lives. the book is about rape.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 01:17:21 AMThe religious part of these comments is ridiculous, it doesn’t matter what religious background anyone comes from, and to do this horrendous crime towards another human being is unforgivable. These children should be tried as adults and never be let out of prison. The thought someone could hold down another child and start them on fire is disgusting. These parents are just as bad and contributed to this horrible crime, by not showing their children love and compassion. This country is in a very sad shape, the state of Florida needs help with its youth. The entire world is heading towards an apocalypse.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 09:49:01 AMIts so crazy how little kids can mess up someones life like that over a game or money. Life is way too short for that stuff. Now all 3 of them a charged as adults and are going to spend the rest of there lives in jail over WHAT?? a video game..thats crazy..Poor Michael Brewer..Prayin for you!!!
Posted 11/11/2009 at 04:31:56 PMBob made a comment 10/13/09 "ummm dude should have jumped in the pool" Bob your comment fits your name; no offence to other Bob's out there; Paul regarding the Muslim crap and Neo who said that the kid was a Muslim: first of all we don't know that and what is of great concern is where we are going as a nation with how we respond to disagreements with violence. Someone offends you and you want to bust a cap: and that type of attitude has no bounds on race. The killings at Virginia Tech(Asain), Columbine (White), the boy killed at the chicago school by (black) youth, and Fort Hood (muslim). So you see it has nothing to do with color or race...people feel that the best way to resolve conflict is to kill another individual. There is no parenting the way it should be...as far a the parent of Jarvis asking for sympothy. Sorry I don't by it. My own son shot a gun in public in an altercation with other guys. No one was killed and no one injured but he did shoot a gun. If he would have hurt someone I would have asked the judge could I lock him up myslef and I do mean that. I would have still loved him but he would deserve the concequence for his actions. And I did emphasize to the judge that he was wrong and needed a concequense for what he did. He was 22 when he did this and out of the house so sometimes it isn't parenting by itself. My son wasn't raised that way, but he chose his life with the people he wanted to hang out with and this is the result. As a community, society, and as a nation we have bought into violence to solve our problems through television, movies, games, music, and religious beliefs by some. This is the result of many sitting on the sidelines thinking this will never happen to me; and it does. It wasn't after the Columbine incident that suburb communities finally realized that this can happen where they are. My prayers are for Michael Brewer and I truly believe that those children should be charged as adults! There are concequences for our actions...period. Maybe if we started going back to public execution, or hangings, there might be a reduction in violence; or at least people would start thinking before they commit these terrible acts. The other side of the coin is that some people just don't give a damn about what they do and arn't afraid. Used to be people, and children were especially caustious no matter what they wanted to do. As for the dummies, and I do mean dummies, who are selfish in their words and think of it as joking about a child being set on fire; if it were your child or brother you would be hurt and angry to even hear something like "the boy should have jumped in the pool" Keep your dumb ass comments to yourself, go back into your room, play your PS3 or XBOX with violent games, or check out your sick crap on television and leave those small comments inside your very, very, small minds.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 05:01:24 PMlets be honest with each other!
Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:21:06 PMUhm, theres no religion about this. These kid's parents suck, there lives Im sure sucked and frankly Americans are becomeing scary terrible beast's there are alot of people out there who are beasts and should be treated as such, like these children and there parents. It's just a shame they neve had a chance.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:35:45 PMI hope florida has a death penalty, I would like to see these three children put down like the dogs they are.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 11:50:44 PMI would first like to take a brief moment of silence for Michael.....
Posted 11/11/2009 at 11:54:04 PMThe severity of this crime is gruesome, horrific, violent and sad. As we sit comfortably and safe in our homes with our families, there is a young boy laying in a coma from burns to almost 3/4 of his body! Burns in which will turn to scars and will forever prevent young Michael from ever living the quality of life he was suppose to live. I know all of us have frightened over the idea of this happening to one of our own. Well, I have news for all of us, this is real and this did happen to one of our own! We tend to forget, due to the masses, that we are all of the same kind, HUMAN kind! Nothing can change that, not our religious beliefs, the color of our skin, nor some of our radical ideas. We are all from the same family. Whether you're one who watches history or one who makes history, we must remember that our thoughts become our actions and our actions whether good or bad become part of the very fabric that makes us who we are as a people. We must not ignore what has taken place here, nor let this crime go unpunished! We must come together and begin a new era. We must lift our children up and encourage them to always do the right thing. We must look within ourselves and know what the right thing is. What we do today is merely an image of what tomorrow will look like. May the perpitraitors who caused this tragedy learn their lesson, and may there punishment be as painful as Michael's burns and last longer than any of Michael's scars. Michael you are in our thoughts and in our prayers. We all pray for your recovery..
A thousand comments posted here on this horrible crime. My heart bleeds for burned child. Those blow-hards screaming for vengeance can show their support for Michael by trooping down to their local Red Cross and donating blood. But they won't. Just like drivers who feel that posting a yellow ribbon on their bumpers is supporting our Soldiers.
Posted 11/12/2009 at 12:22:59 AMWhere was God when the poor kid was burning?
Posted 11/12/2009 at 12:24:05 AMWell, another minority killed some people today. Or was it yesterday. I can't remember, they kill so many. Anyhow the sand nigger in the military got a couple. Thanks to white liberals he was able to roam around without worry because he knows like you know that he would be protected because they both have the same enemy. Mohamed the serial killer got executed, not bad. Its sort of ironic that we celebrate veterans day just a few days after a liberal PC protected muslim sand nigger offed a few people. He had ties to foreign elements but because he was muslim he was treated BETTER than his peers. His liberal friends have set the game up such that we have more to fear from political correctness than our enemy does. Unfortunantly the useful idiots that protected him were not the ones to be killed. Oh well. You have to love immigration in america, we bring in the worst of the third world and then blame ourselves for their failures.
So this kid gets burned by a group of apes who qualify for preferential treatment in government jobs, college admissions, corporate employment, financial aid, and you fill in the blank. And what does he get? What does he qualify for? He's white. He ain't worth shit. He, We, walk through filth everyday and then get blamed for not picking up the trash.
Lets see what tomorrow brings.
Filth that qualifies for more government rights than I do? Maby. But lets not forget HOPE and CHANGE.
How much more does america have to suffer?
Posted 11/12/2009 at 12:24:57 AMKevin,
You inconsiderate little jerk. This has NOTHING to do with race nor will it EVER have anything to do with race. And how could you blame what happened on Michael? He did nothing wrong. It's people like you who make me sick to my stomach. You care about no one else except yourself. How would you feel if something like this happens to one of your kids? You would want to take revenge into your own hands I bet. I'm sure you wouldn't think twice about finding the perpetrators regardless of what they look like. Next time you post, I'd suggest a better choice of words instead of ranting on about stuff that's irrelevant.
Posted 11/12/2009 at 10:08:54 AMJacob, no offence but you are naive. Everything has to do with race. You have been brought up in this world of PC logic where race doesnt matter when minorities do harm but ALWAYS matters when they try to do good or harm is done to them. Everywhere we look liberals and minorities are screaming about race. Everytime a black kid gets hurt by a white person its all over the news. We are grinded down by the fact it was a white on black crime. We have hate crime legislation just for this. No it is about race just ask the Blacks and Mexicans. Actually just ask Lionel McIntyre from Columbia University. He just bashed a womens face in. Open your eyes Kevin. You are probably a good person but the world is far more different then what you let your eyes see. Put down the PC, mainstream ideas along with their manufactured consent and use your common sense.
Posted 11/12/2009 at 11:38:12 AMAs far as blaming Michael I don't see your point. I reread my post and nowhere did I imply its Michael fault. The only fault would be his parents sending him to this school where the apes roam free. I will agree with you on one thing, after I reread my post it is a bit of a rant.
Why should we, the good people of this world, pay for those little a**holes to live for the rest of their life in jail?
Like I said... sell tickets and watch these punks burn, baby burn!!!
Spend their life in jail my butt!! Kill them now and let GOD deal with them ;)
Posted 11/12/2009 at 01:49:01 PMwhy do a thing like that?
Posted 11/12/2009 at 05:29:13 PMI wish for what ever MB wants to happen. If it were my son and this happened to him, I might not want him to surrvive. Why should he have to live with this? And these kids should get life whether or not he survives. They should get the death penalty. People should donate money to Michael Brewer send twenty bucks if your real poor it might add up. It will add up. I don't want to be racist or to think negative thoughts about other people, but this yo-boy shit has got to stop! I don't want the black race to get hurt physicaly or emotionaly there are black people that I like. However, the trashy ghetto shit that black, white, latino, trash embrace started from ghetto blacks. I WANT black people to succeed, I wish they felt good about their race and white people. I know that I sound racist, but I don't think this would have happened if it were not for the trashy black ghetto culture that kids are all too willing to embrace. I think society has lowered its standards because it's cool now to be rude, hateful, ghetto, and greedy. Do you really want Michael Brewer to make it? Don't you think it's kinda cruel to make someone suffer that much? Does he deserve to be in that kind of pain? GOD have mercy.
Posted 11/14/2009 at 04:32:02 PMI'm sorry I left out white people. I think that white people don't stand together when theirs a hate crime like black people do. I think a lot of whites are greedy, and wimpy. They seem to care about their own immediate family and can give a crap about community. It is not all on minorities, whites are responsible for the dumbing of society. White people let this country go to shit. Whites are the ones in charge of the country and have most of the money. Tax payers helped bail out wall street and automotive companies just to let them pocket the rest of the money. These buisnesses are run by greedy, rich, whites. And one more thing, why are some latinos embracing ghetto black culture? YOU have good culture why are you screwing it up?
Posted 11/14/2009 at 04:54:39 PMCarla,
I would rather see michael brewer live then die. Maybe he can do something great with his life. he will have the mental pain and psychological pain the rest of his life that for sure. i had a ruptured appendix when i was 15(his age) the pain was unbearable and I almost died. But once i hit the hospital i never felt anymore physical pain since morphine and other meds ran through my veins preventing any physical pain. i know he is getting much better pain treatment than i did 10 years ago. so i do hope he is well medicated and not in agony every day. he will survive and i think will do great things with his new life as his life will be very different than the one he had before this crime.
Posted 11/14/2009 at 10:39:12 PMNot to be rude or anything, but they cannot numb all of the pain for burn victims. And also I had messed up my hand before where the skin was slothing off and when they put me on morphine I could still feel the pain. I asked for more and they gave me more but it still hurt a lot. My point IS is that your statement makes it seem like he is not feeling it when he is. If he wants to survive that is great, I just feel bad for him if he doesn't.
Posted 11/15/2009 at 12:50:16 PMCarla, you said: "I wish for what ever MB wants to happen. If it were my son and this happened to him, I might not want him to surrvive. Why should he have to live with this?"
Posted 11/15/2009 at 01:56:24 PMThank God Michael isn't your son! Michael is not a dog that some cruel kids evilly set on fire and will probably need to be put to sleep, to ease its pain and spare the owner the expense of trying to save, it.
Although you tried to redeem yourself in this rant when you said; "People should donate money to Michael Brewer send twenty bucks if your real poor it might add up. It will add up..." (only thing you wrote I can agree with)
I feel that your initial words were hurtful to Michael and the Brewer family and if you have feelings like this you should have the decency to KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.
You owe Michael and his family a hugh apology!
You also try to justify your statement, by talking about things that you do not have first hand experience with. Ok so you got a little booboo and it hurt... so now you're an expert. If you are in a car accident and get injured really bad, and you're in pain, should we just let you die so you don't suffer? Do you see how stupid that sounds? You must not be a parent. I've never met a parent in my hospital, that said "my poor baby is suffering so just let him die." No, they always say, "please, please, please, help my child!"
Every time you post a statement on this blog that has a grain of truth or makes any sense at all you "F" it up by going into a stereotypical, racist rant...You don't even limit it to one race...No, you try to justify your opinion by equally bashing whites too. Can't you understand by now that this is not about race, ethnicity, religion, or any other type of hate crime. This was retaliation and revenge...pure and simple.
Please try to get the facts, as written, before you post. I'm sorry but, you are confused, confusing, and contradictory.
If I could punish those kids, I would tie tight turniquets around their lower legs and then take an electric skill saw and saw their feet off, but keep bleeding to a minimum. Then I'd put turniquets around their arms and saw their hands off, but keep bleeding to a minimum. Then I'd tie turniquets higher and higher, each time sawing off more of their legs and arms, until each died from shock.
Posted 11/15/2009 at 02:40:37 PMYou sound like a dumb kid, everything I said makes perfect sense. This is what it seems like today in America. My point about my hand was that it WAS a small injury in comparison to Michael Brewer's. The hospital couldn't even take the pain away from my SMALL injury, so how could they take his away? I don't wish Michael Brewer to die, but if he can't take the pain then he shouldn't have to. I did not say he was a dog, you are blowing things up. I want what ever MB wants to happen. Lets stop thinking about what all you want, it's about what the victim wants. If my son wanted to die then I might consider it. I don't know what he wants i'm just saying, have you even considered that he might NOT want to make it? Even if these kids get life in prison they are still in a way getting away with this crime, justice would be execution or prison for life without any privliges. I agree with you that he could still have a good life, anything is possible. I hope the best for him in any case. I strongly believe that the kid or kids hated Michael B. because he was an attractive white boy with a good life. My gut instinct feels this way. I think that they didn't care either way if he lived or died, I don't think they even thought that far. I think the one kid wanted to destroy his looks because he hated him and was jealous. This case is about taking away someone's vanity(looks). Get real! It's deeper than revenge!YOU ALL KNOW IT!
Posted 11/15/2009 at 02:52:36 PMIt IS about race in a way. This country is going to shit because of what a lot of blacks, whites, latinos tend to do in this country. The black "ghetto" culture made a lot of kids act out, has lowered standards in being a normal working class kid, a lot of whites ignored this and let it happen, some latinos joined in...
The dumbing of society started during the nineties, the rap shit and depressing grunge was big then. Both parent often worked, people started faking like they had real money, everyone had to start acting PC to the point of being wrong, this all contributed to people in society being more violent, rude, greedy, and angry.
Posted 11/15/2009 at 03:24:33 PMFYI: I do know about burns, I know about the rule of nines, and how horrible burns are, I have been trained to treat and transport burn victims. I agree that I should apologize to MB's family. I am sorry for my comments sounding cold, I don't mean it that way. I hope his family is not on this site. I am simply telling it like it is. You people just want to react to everything, you're like OMG how tragic! or kill them all! dam muslims! your being racist! Your a bunch of kids. You guys don't even get the points that I'm trying to get across. It's about the dumbing of America! This country is going to shit, it's not safe anyware these days, it's worse! Do you even question WHY it's getting worse? You bunch of dumb fuckin teenagers, your generation sucks!
Posted 11/15/2009 at 03:45:47 PMAnd you are attacking my blogs but not the moronic ones about cutting the kids into pieces. "I don't think you'd really do it MArk" Anyway, yo, be cool, be cool Jacob you fuckin moron (who makes up shit about people on here.) You said that I was kissing up to you when i called you a yo-boy slug. You said some guy was blaming MB when he wasn't. Your just a fuckin trouble maker like those kids that did this. And why are you people talking about religion the kids probibly don't even believe in GOD or any other higher power. I don't think most of you believe in anything. You don't stand for anything either. Losers
Posted 11/15/2009 at 04:02:44 PMIf I was in an amount of pain that I felt I could not take, I would want to be over medicated if you know what I mean. YES, I would want mercy.
Posted 11/15/2009 at 08:30:21 PMCarla,
Your way of thinking honestly makes me wanna puke. If Michael was my son I would do everything I could to keep him alive until there is absolutely nothing else TO do to try and save him. Yeah I would want him to not be miserable anymore but I would have to weigh all my other options before I would even THINK about putting him down.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 12:05:13 AMMy heart goes out to Michael and his family. May God give them the strength to make it through this horrific time in their life.
This horrible event highlights what is wrong with our world today. The US suffers from the "it's not my fault syndrome". Our schools and many parents these days are enabling their kids and it is very dangerous. Far too often kids are told that its"not your fault" followed by an enabling excuse such as "he should not have snitched on you". There needs to be consequences when kids mess up. Consequences set boundries and teach that you are always held accountable for your actions no matter the offense. Case in point the boys in this case were laughing after the crime. I would bet with the track record of their parents they have not been held accountable too many times in their life. They are about to learn a hard lesson in consequences. The truth is we live in a world governed by laws both physical and man made, but ultimately all will be judged in the end by our maker.
I happen to believe that our maker is the Lord Jesus Christ and I will be held accountable for my actions. I am not perfect, but I am confident that if I am truly remorseful that I will be forgiven. Remember being forgiven by Christ does not get you out of crimes you have committed here on earth. He can save their soul regardless of how long they stay in jail.
For those of you who do not believe that their is a supreme being, I ask you this? If I believe in a God and it ends up that he is not real, then I will have made a mistake, but I have lived a life that I wanted....If you choose not to believe in God and it turns out that he does exist you have made an eternal mistake. Unfortunately their are no do overs.
One last law to remember " the law on non-contradiction"....This is true for any opposing views....
1. One view can be right, One view can be wrong.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 02:55:50 AM2. Both views can be wrong.
3. Both can't be right, only one can be right
Carla,
Posted 11/16/2009 at 11:21:13 AMYou want to know why I don't say anything about the posts that want to do terrible things to the boys that hurt Michael? It's because I realize that these people are blowing off steam. They want to do something to help, and they are very very angry and frustrated that the legal system will probably only give these little snots a slap on the wrist. Their words are mostly harmless.
I did, very strongly, attack a poster that wished Michael dead, because he believes, that all snitches need to die. (I didn't see you go after this yo-boy.)
I was very nice to you. I read your post and had to walk away. I wanted to reach my hand thru the computer and throttle you for your comment, but I think my post was very mature and constrained. I don't like to be confrontational because it only makes people defensive. You pushed my buttons.
I worked in a burn unit and rehab with burn patients, and I was a burn patient. I know what we can do to help people. No, you can't take away all the pain unless you put the patient in an induced comma, but you can make them comfortable. Your doctor may not have given you as much morphine because he was worried that you might become addicted which for a small injury would be a worse scenario.
Michael has a long road ahead of him but there is light at the end of the tunnel. His face and hands were mostly spared. This is important because of the way people treat anyone that looks different. New treatments for scars are being perfected and Michael has a great chance of being treated with lasers to smooth out bumpy skin and lessen hyperpigmentation. If and I believe he will make it through this stage of his recovery, he will miss out on a lot of the wonderful things a 15 yr old should be experiencing, but he will live, mature faster than he over should of had to, and he will be a wonderful citizen. This is what happened to most of my former patients. They are great people and the world is a better and more compassionate place because they are still here.
Aww I am so sorry for all the children involved. I hope that Micheal continues to be infection free, that is important in healing. I cannot say how sorry I am at the pain he has been caused. As for blaming the parents of any one of the children, Maybe blamed should be spread a little wider than that. It would appear that some of the parents have some serious criminal records. Why was no notice of these children taken sooner. If a mother goes to jail for child abuse why does she still have her children? If the police are called over 20 times to a home for domestic abuse why were there children still in the house? It doesn't seem right.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 06:16:27 PMPoor kid. I can't believe not paying someone for a video game can result to this. At 15 I knew better than to light someone on fire! I knew better than to attempt to kill someone, and if they weren't trying to kill him what did they think engulfing him in flames was going to do?
I can only imagine how my mom would have reacted if I were Michael. To know kids are so cruel at 15 years old, I don't think she would have let me go back to school let alone out of the house. This is just shocking to me.
My heart goes out to Michael and his family. I hope these heartless kids are punished to the extent they deserve.
I have yet to read that Michael had said that he couldnt take the pain, and am glad that his mother isnt crazy and decided that it would be better if he didnt live. Im not even a mother and that sounds cruel to even think that about someones child. Thank god it wasnt Michaels mom with that ideal.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 08:50:58 PMWe all don't know what he is going through or how he feels emotionaly. Once again you are thinking about what the mother feels and wants. This is about MB not everyone else, it's about what HE is going through. Don't you care about what he might want? I didn't say that I WOULD WANT MY SON TO DIE, OK? I said that if my son WANTED to die I would feel heart-ache and would want him not to suffer. I don't think I could go through with it, maybe if he was in severe pain. The type of pain you all are not even considering.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 10:17:21 PMIts obvious that you are thrive for the attention from all of this Carla, especially considering you can't stop replying to what everyone else is saying.
On this matter, if my son said "mommy I want to die" because of physical pain that will eventually subdue, I wouldn't want my child to die. Not even if he said that to me himself. I would encourage my child to fight for his life. Wounds will heal, pain will subdue, his life is more important. Having my son live a full life, with love, happiness, A FUTURE, would be worth the temporary pain that he is feeling. And furthermore Carla, our brains control almost everything. If he really gave up on life, and really wanted to die, with all the injuries he has he would pass. Just like a cancer patient who has lost all hope. When your child is in that situation, feel free to think negatively, but Michael who you refer to as two letters instead of a name like every other soul, isn't yours. So if you couldnt tell with all the other bad infeed you've recieved because of that comment, only a cruely immature teenager/child would say that.
Posted 11/16/2009 at 11:03:14 PMcarla just admit you were wrong about wanting him to die so we can stop writing about you and more about michael. im sorry you hurt your hand and for that small injury they gave you morphine. i find it hard to believe. i had a ruptured appendix, almost died and morphine relieved all the pain i had for weeks. you must have the lowest threshold for pain imaginable. or you are just full of shit. im taking the 2nd choice.
Posted 11/17/2009 at 07:16:47 AMI'm sorry, does Carla know this family? She calls him "MB". I was just wondering. I too have been burned and was given morphine, and of course it did not relieve all the pain, but it sure made it easier to not care!!! And I don not think ANYONE can say what they would or would not do in a situation, until they are in that situation themselves. I am really not sure how important all this is, strangers arguing over opinions, but we should just all be hoping for a speedy recovery, and justice for those who did this.
Posted 11/17/2009 at 05:40:05 PMI can't imagine what his famliy is going threw... but talking bad about peoples religion and color is not something you should do (paul) ... i am armenian ... which means im from the middle east .. but my skin is very light and you would never know that im armenian... i have lived in america my whole life.. and so has my dad and my mom and all there siblings... i look like a white kid ... so don't be rasist... it doesn't matter where you are there is stuff like this going on all the time!! in america all over the world... it is a travisty.. i wish nothing but for those kids to be charged as adults and put away from the world......
His family is always on my mind and i hope for the best for him and his family!!!
Posted 11/18/2009 at 08:43:51 PMCARLA!!!
STOP SAYING THINGS JUST DONT EVEN ANSWER THIS!!!
the attention should not be on you!!!!!! it is about
Michael Brewer not about you.. you should be ashamed cuz your making it about you because you had to say something stupid!!!
Miachael has a long life ahead of him.. ppl live when this type of stuff happens just hope and pray and do what you can do to help his family!!!!!
My son is 7 weeks old and i would never say in a million yrs tht i would let him die if he was in pain... i love my son with all my heart.. just as Michael Brewers family loves him... so don't say stupid stuff to get yourself attention
Posted 11/18/2009 at 08:54:34 PMMUSLIMS AREN'T BAD PPL EITHER ARE CHRISTIANS..... ppl are bad not culters ... each individual has some "evil"... Some are smart and don't act on them... others (as all of these kids that did this) listened to there "evil" and they do need to go to jail for a longggggg time!!!!! so just know tht what comes around goes around... and don't say retarted..... thts just shows that you are not tht smart if you cant come up with another word....
Posted 11/18/2009 at 09:03:29 PMthat kid is sooo stupid I would have jumped inside the pool or at east fought back, I would not be the one with burns all over me
Posted 11/19/2009 at 10:09:55 AMI really wonder where the little bastards' parents were! If they had really been paying attention to what their kids were up to, they would have noticed that their son suddenly had a strange bike in his possession. And if they really cared, they would have grilled him until they got to the bottom of things. And why the hell are the parents letting their kids run wild like that?!!! Do the parents even know what their kids are up to when they're away from home? I somehow doubt it!
Posted 11/19/2009 at 10:24:29 AMchildrensburnfoundationoffl.com
Posted 11/19/2009 at 06:39:35 PMI know the parents are going through a hard time but at least those pussy ass little fucking nigs will rot in hell for the rest of eternity.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 10:05:54 PMGuy dont u all know he didnt think he just went in the water if i was him and i was in shock i will do the same thing so i hope he gets well soon and i want to tell him that Nova Middle School loves him and hope he gets well too.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 08:25:02 PM"that kid is sooo stupid I would have jumped inside the pool or at east fought back, I would not be the one with burns all over me"
Are you serious? Fight back while you're on fire? Do you seriously think someone would have the power to fight back or jump into a pool when they're on fire?
Anyways, I hope for the best for Michael. Crimes like this shouldn't happen at all. I really wonder what the fucking parents were doing.
And the reason for what they did was completely idiotic. Burn someone because of an unpaid video game? People really can be fucking morons.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 11:32:24 PMI just heard that Michael Brewer is recovering and that he can now go outside for ten minutes at a time. I am glad he is getting better. I was wrong about him needing mercy, it sounds like he can cope with the pain. He is getting better acording to the news.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 01:32:38 PMCarla,
Thank you for actually posting a comment that doesn't argue with everyone. Understand that I am not trying to start another fight.
On another note, I am glad Michael is progressing but I shall remind you all that he is not out of the woods yet.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 06:04:08 PMJackson and Rev Al should have went down there and reproved these kids for this behavior. LMAO!
Posted 11/23/2009 at 12:38:04 PMAfter reading some of these posts, it is unbeleivable how stupid and self centered some people are. To those of you who say he should have jumped in the pool, he did. Listen to the 911 call and educate yourself about this before you show any more of your stupidity.
Help the family. Pray for Michael
Posted 11/23/2009 at 03:56:41 PMPoor kid. Get well soon!
I hope the little apes that did this are permanently locked up in the zoo where they belong. Perhaps the larger apes can find some use for them.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 12:58:03 PMeye for an eye set them on fire and see how it feels....even if he gets anything it would be a slap on the wrist while the brewer kid will deal with this the rest of his life!!
Posted 11/24/2009 at 01:01:11 PMThe guy's name is Mendez and he lives in South Florida. Probably a Guatemalan Catholic, not a Muslim - not that it matters.
Pretty awful stuff, but the kid should've paid for the video game. It sounds like he knew the guys who burned him, and he knew he had a good reason to be scare of them. When dealing with people like this, you pay them and don't get them sent to jail for a day.
He really does not demonstrate strong self-preservation skills.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 01:11:01 PMLook, no one needs to set them on fire or anything else. Give the little darlings life without parole in Starke Prison without protective custody--why should we pay for that? Just put them in the general population with the other inmates and lock the door.
Justice will take care of itself.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 01:23:26 PMPete,
I am reading everywhere that three of them were charged as adults on the 19th, but nothing on here?
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:03:55 PMIt's on the updated version, Ed. Right here: http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/11/michael_brewer_set_one_fire_ov.php
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:12:44 PMA lot of you wonder where were the parents of these monterous children and how could this happen? Well after reading these comments I have no doubt where children get their aggressive, rude, obnoxious, unfeeling, uncaring behavior from. We have no one to blame but ourselves!
You think you are a better parent? Well ask yourselves how do you act around your children? You can preach and teach to your kids, but the real lessons learned are how you act and what you say behind closed doors. Are YOU respectful? Do YOU make snide horrible comments when you kids "arent paying attention"? Kids are always watching, listening to what we say and how we act.
So just cause a kid has criminal and crack heads for parents doesnt mean you are sooooo much better. Especially when you go home and berate your fellow man and spew off toxic nonsense due to your unique "personality". People act so self righteously and high and mightly until the spot light is turned on them.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:24:47 PMI've read some of the comments posted on here and am gobsmacked that some of you wonder where hatred for each other comes from. You sparked arguements over religion and race and insulted each other over them, when the main issue here is a young boy who's life has been horrifically changed.
Take a long look at yourselves.. THEN decide if your morals have any place here.
I am from Britain, so only recently heard this story, and it sickens me. Whether Michael was in the wrong or not, he did NOT deserve such a punishment.
My thoughts are with Michael and his family, I'm a mother myself and cannot begin to imagine what they are going through.
Shame on you who used this story to insult each other over your moral debates. This is a about a young boy in a critical condition, not you.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 04:31:08 PMFor the rest of their lives, these punks will have to wonder if someone more crazy than they are, will be just waiting to douse them and set them ablaze. Justice can be more brutal than the original crime. And these sorry little peices of shit deserve all that is coming to them. Jail for these kids? LOL! I think enough people hate them for REAL justice to hit them...SOON!
Posted 11/24/2009 at 07:21:21 PMthats really sad at my school were doing hat day and give a dollor or more for him
Posted 11/24/2009 at 08:57:42 PMThis makes me sick and very sad. They should all be tried as adults.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 07:50:38 AMThis is rediculous that them people would not be in jail. That is the definition of stupidity i don't know how someone could be so stupid. Also to the thirteen year old that they think is too young and seems to be hurt by this that is bs and they know it. He was involved in it so he should be treated the exact same way as the other low life good for nothing kids and parents involved in this.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 09:16:16 AMSometimes I reminisce for the 1920s... Justice would have already been served and all four animals would already be doing what they do best:
Rotting in a swamp somewhere in the middle of the state with the rope still tied around their necks.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 12:38:23 PMWhat the hell does muslim or christianity have to do with anything you retards. this is awful crime and all you have to do is bitch about religion. really. get a grip people.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 01:21:34 PMJustice needs to be served. But we also have to remember this. Unforgiveness can eat our heart away and make us bitter, depressed, and unhappy for the rest of our lives. We all know the story of "eye for an eye." Jesus' disciples grew up under that law. Christ taught on forgiveness for a few reasons. 1) Those who can't forgive have forgotten or have never known what THEY have been forgiven of through Christ. Being burned alive is nothing compared to the horros of Hell. 2) Releasing someone from what they "owe" you releases you from bitterness and hate. 3) When we forgive, we give God the authority to have vengence (sp?) on those who have done US wrong. Trying to retaliate ourselves will only keep our hands tied.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 02:06:38 PMI hope that Michael is able to forgive these youngsters one day. But I also hope and pray that God gives these kids the punishment they deserve.
What these kids did was cruel and it's scary to think we live in a place where something so horrible can happen over such meaningless things. They should all be tried as adults and pay for their crime. I do feel sorry for these kids because of the lousy parents they had but that does not justify their actions.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 05:56:53 PMOk so why didn't he jump in the pool.... Well they weren't sure if he did or didn't and let's see if you can find the pool when there's flames shooting up into your eyes.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 06:35:39 PMI think 30 years is not enought time for this crime, the 3 teens are no different than Adolf Hitler May 60 years without paroll would set an example for others who think they may need to follow in these monsters footsteps.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 08:08:11 PMi hate them silly boys they should pay! >:(
Posted 11/27/2009 at 05:06:38 PMgod u people are stupid many muslims are nice and many christians are evil just stop the boys should be put in jail i agree but no payback that would make michael look bad
Posted 11/27/2009 at 08:33:07 PMOkay a lot of people are commenting about religions and talking about bad comments...but isn't the most important thing how he is feeling and that he should get better.
People are saying he should've jumped in the pool...if you or anyone was just set on fire in a surprise attack...you would probably be to shocked and afraid to be able to even think straight.
This is a serious injury...I think that his injury is the most important thing to worry about. I hope he gets better and that everything works out. I am deeply sorry for him and his family.
Now you people who commented about religion and how he should have acted in this situation should be ashamed of yourselves for thinking selfishly.
Posted 11/27/2009 at 10:40:26 PMCanadian said:
in a single article and the responses that followed it, every single negative stereotype about americans has been met or surpassed. Ignorant disrespect towards minority cultures, blind religious justification, failure to LOOK at the article and notice that the questions your asking have already been answered (otherwise known as self involvement), bad grammer, violent crimes, bad parenting, gang-like behaviour.....maybe youre not aaaall guilty of aaaall of these things but ive seen enough not to want to find out........
f*ucking americans...
I couldn't have said it better myself...and I'm an American. Although, I find it harder and harder to say that with pride when I'm surrounded by this type of thinking and deliberate ignorance.
How about instead of sitting at your computer pontificating, you show a little compassion to the boy that is seriously injured? Maybe try to educate yourselves with factual evidence of what has created the sad state of our society, instead of spewing out your biased opinions.
Just a thought....
Posted 11/28/2009 at 04:47:18 PMCanadian,
Funny how you spelled grammar wrong, aye? :)
Posted 11/29/2009 at 12:00:49 PMThe last time i talked to somone about micheal it was one of his best friends..... SHe has told me he is doing welll again. When she told me he got my card i about cried.... I never would have thought things like this could happen to someone.....,......It kills me to know there are many other people out there that would do this to people.....
Posted 11/30/2009 at 10:25:37 AMthis is a hate crime and should be treated as such. the story will unravel since there is more here than just a bike. these little bastards need to find out what it's like in prison and should be charged and found guilty as adults. they knew what they were doing. were not talking about 2 year olds here. but it is most assuredly a hate crime and the only thing that made tv was Tigers car accident. this country better wake up and soon. its loosing its freedoms more and more and one day, it will be all over. im old and on my way out, but you guys have to stay here for a while, so i say, get your act together and don't take this kind of crap any longer......cya
Posted 12/01/2009 at 03:02:54 AMI cant belive this happpened its like thouse kids have no heart. I mean thouse kids dont know what its like being set on fire. ALL of thouse kids should be tried as adauts. this could happen 2 any 1 no one should have to put up with this crap. his parents are eventily going 2 run out of money 2 pay the hospital bills i think some one should make thouse kids pay the hospital bills!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 12/05/2009 at 05:20:36 PMIn reponse to Neo:
neo said:
Oh yes since America is a "CHRISTIAN" culture it shouldn't happen here. Yeah, thanks Paul. Oh and by the way, wake up. That guy who burned him SURELY was a muslim, since we all know ALL muslims are evil and ALL christians are good. It sure is a crying shame aint it?
What is wrong with you? Interjecting that garbage in a discussion like this? YOU are part of the problem - you sure aren't part of the solution. Take your narrow minded, hate speech somewhere else you loser. While you are at it - get an education and learn to speak correctly - perhaps it would expand your perspectives... you idiot....
Posted 12/08/2009 at 04:06:41 PMHow in the hell can all u idiots seriously sit there and talk bout this kid like this, if he would have jumped in the pool the clorine would have caused intense pain he was surounded by five douchebags, who I hope get gang raped and killed in jail, and all u people have to say is he should have jumped in the pool. It's becase of idiots like u all the world is the way it is.
Posted 12/08/2009 at 05:29:33 PMTo ALL south florida, II Clean automotive detailing is throwing a car wash benefit for Micheal Brewer. South florida police departments are comming out to help with this benefit. All of the details are bellow, thank you for all of your support.
HELP NEEDED
Michael Brewer Car Wash Benefit
This fundraiser benefit is for Michael Brewer, a 15 year old teenager who had 65% of his body burned. He was in so much pain the doctors had to put him in a medical coma.
With your help, ALL of us can assist Michael Brewer’s family with his medical bills.
Come get your personal or commercial vehicle washed for a $10 donation.
All profits will be donated to the Brewer Family.
Business owners and vendors welcome, community service hours available for students
Saturday Dec. 12th, 2009
Sunday Dec. 13th, 2009
9:00 a.m. – 6:00 p.m.
Location:
TEXACO Gas Station
2699 W Oakland Park Blvd
Oakland Park, Fl 33311
(11 blocks West of I95, on the corner of West Oakland Park Blvd and NW 27th Ave.)
Food and Refreshments sponsored by:
Mom’s Kitchen
1945 NE 45th Street
Oakland Park, Fl 33308
(954) 776-7292
Event Hosted By:
II Clean Automotive Detailing
V.J. - (754) 244-0005
Bill – (754) 422-2791
Posted 12/08/2009 at 11:16:05 PMin responce to neowho said : Oh yes since America is a "CHRISTIAN" culture it shouldn't happen here. Yeah, thanks Paul. Oh and by the way, wake up. That guy who burned him SURELY was a muslim, since we all know ALL muslims are evil and ALL christians are good. It sure is a crying shame aint it?
may i ask you, which country has the most crime rates? USA. who live in the US? cristians. you people in the US have no respect towards muslims. how come us muslims respect you? right now im not critisising you, but im saying a fact, im trying to show you what you are doin. what you are saying. right now, by just saying what you said, you have showed me you dont deserve respect.some people do, even cristians and all the differnt cultures. and do you see muslims saying cristains are evil? maybe some do. and those muslims arnt muslims at all. they're mostly the people who call themselves " muslims" and go bomb places and say they are sacrificing for god. THOSE ARENT MUSLIMS. they think they are but theyre NOT. if you, my brother, read the quaran, im sure you would like it. it has everything. from rules to stories. and no page states we have to sacrifice. :S . and nearly all pages say we have to respect people from all cultures and not go around saying they are evil or their belief is wrong. you tell me if thats right ? if you think it is. then you are wrong. it is the most noble thing thing in the world. that is the right personality everyone should have.
Posted 12/09/2009 at 09:05:24 AMO MY GOSH I KNEW THE YAKESS DID THAT
Posted 12/09/2009 at 02:16:00 PMI NEW IT WAS DEM YANKEES DEY CANT FIGHT
Posted 12/09/2009 at 02:17:50 PMO MY GOSH
Posted 12/09/2009 at 02:18:17 PMHello! Are you all seriously thinking about the 15 year old whom is fighting for his life. This is not about religion or race, it is about prayer!!Regardless of who you are, what religion you are, or your ethnicity, this is about a child who needs us to stick together, no matter what!Think about it!!!!
Posted 12/10/2009 at 12:08:34 AMo_O
The community and upbringing of these kids can be blamed for this attack, but in in a small part.
These kids, the little morons, also have a working brain but also a weak mind. They know this is wrong, they know lighting someone on fire is not a good thing!
Life is about choices and decisions. The little bastards made bad ones. Wilfully. Weak and idiotic minds.
I speak from experience. It's all about choice.
Posted 12/11/2009 at 06:54:22 AMthis is not even right how people could do this stupid shit to people. i wish people didnt have to be such jerks. and seriously over a fucking video game thats bull crap. i swear these cops need to be alot harsher on people like people who are murders or do this kinda stuff should go to jail for at least 20 years. cuz if they only have like 5 ot 6 maybe even 10 they wont learn any. i just hate how people can be such jerks. plus how can you laugh after you burnt someone this just breaks my heart.
Posted 12/12/2009 at 10:25:39 AMso michael got burned ...i think americans should be more awake at incidences like this one. by his peers.people you grow up with. go through school with...graduate with. there really is something wrong with the parents though ...trust me. are you blind to this fact inside. the kids are young..and able to change. It is Americas responsibility to take those children in and teach them how to act like civilized people.
Posted 12/14/2009 at 04:10:20 PMThose "rotten little bastards" aka EVIL BOYS - NEED to go to prison where they belong. The boys mom in the interview must be twisted to think her son shouldn't be punished for what he did ~ there must be something wrong with her and she shouldn't be raising children at all!
Posted 12/14/2009 at 04:51:30 PMhe did jump in the pool. and is this kid jose mendez or jesus mendez? to be creditble this article can't make that kind of a mistake!
although no matter the details if someone of any age lights another of any age should be punished. severely. you have to be messed up in the head to think it is okay to torture someone and kill them.
Posted 12/14/2009 at 06:06:28 PMIt seems to me that these children are extremely sociopathic. This crime is heinous. What's frightening is: have they hurt animals in the past? (A sign of mental illness.) Will their behavior get worse? (Probably yes.) What values have they been taught and why have they no sense of wrongdoing? Where the hell have their parents or family been and why are their mothers defending unbelievable cruelty on the part of their children? Whatever their punishment, these "children" are sick and need help (or not -- don't know if it would help) and to own up to their responsibility to a civilized society.
Posted 12/14/2009 at 06:10:22 PMWow...this is the kind of thing I have always warned my children about...and now there is proof!! I have always taught my children never to borrow ,lend,and especially NEVER promise I.O.U's!! How unfortunate for all the families involved. Regardless of anyone's situation at home each and every one of these children has someone who loves them. My heart not only goes out to Michael but to the families of everyone involved!!I also believe that the boy should not have agreed to pay for something he could not buy "ESPECIALLY" from someone you would be scared of, if confronted. Just goes to show that AGE does matter when making decisions.Children act on the moment and do not think of long term effects, until the moment is gone.ESPECIALLY the ones who feel they have nothing to loose!! BUT regardless of age, the perpertrators SHOULD be punished for their crime, what they did was immoral,selfish,VIOLENT,and against THE LAW!! Promising someone you will do something in return however is NOT against the law just a POOR decision. What comes to my mind as a parent is why were the children allowd to be at the same school, after the attempted theft of the bike, especially if the victim was already too scared to go to school with the other child!! As a parent I would have followed thru with some provisions to protect my child from this "child" first thing would have been to pay for the video or return it whichever would have been accepted, and then talk to the principal of the school to insure my childs safety, and if necessary, pull my child out of school, and find other measures to take care of this LEGALLY!! PARENTS PLEASE take head in your child's behavior ...it could SAVE THEIR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! If this gets swept under the rug and the punishment does not fit the crime, then I can only imagine the violence my future granchildren will have to indure, that is PERMITTED by law, in our Country, AMERICA!! We are the Home of the Free but our CHILDREN should not have the freedom to "kill"!! I send my prayers to Michael for a healthy recovery..I also send my prayers to the boys that God may rest their souls......
Posted 12/14/2009 at 09:20:30 PMMaybe those kids should be set on fire. Then they would know what it felt like.
Posted 12/15/2009 at 12:23:30 AMI believe that parents should be charged and pay some sort of consequences for their childrens crimes. Maybe that would teach them to raise better kids. These kids are deliquents because their parents are losers who should never have been breeding in the first place.
Posted 12/15/2009 at 08:01:43 AMHey Neo... your an idiot. Are you offended Mr. PC. What a DMSHT!!
Posted 12/22/2009 at 11:32:54 AMI think the teenagers who did this should have there testacles cut out and shoved in there mouth. They still don't understand the horrible pain physical and emotional that they caused this young man.
Posted 12/23/2009 at 07:59:04 AMI am absolutely amazed by most of these comments. When I read them it was fairly obvious why this country is in such bad shape. This is not a format for a religious debate. These boys have no future in or out of prison. They have not been taught anything about common decency or respect for themselves or others. The parents are responsible to a certain extent. I do not believe that a bottle of rubbing alcohol would be an item sitting around a pool. This was obviously a planned attack. It doesn't matter if these evil doers do time in an adult prison or a juvenile center, they will only become more angry and intolerant of the real world. Some of these boys had previously been removed from their own home only to be returned to unfit parents. To think that some of you adults think that Michael provoked them over a video game and/or thwarting the taking of his father's bike is extremely disheartening. When adults find any type of reasoning in a crime as horrible as this, one can only wonder what kind of person or persons you are raising.
Posted 12/23/2009 at 08:42:06 AMaw, poor boy my prayers go out to him!
Posted 12/23/2009 at 01:03:23 PMbtw 'the other commenters are retarded', planning revenge the rest of your life is stupid. Moving on, forgive and forget... the kids who did that will pay but Michael shouldn't ever have to here their names again.
Posted 12/23/2009 at 01:22:35 PMIt makes me sad to read about the depraved children who did this and moreso their parents. I feel the viceral reaction to throw blame and punish them. But this has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with our culture. We promote and glorify easy money, violence, easy sex, and alcohol continuously on TV and in movies. We tolerate and overlook criminal activity because we won't take moral responsibility for our indulgent society with proper education and effective law enforcement. We would rather have pee away money and Chines plastic goods and embrace simple answers to complex problems. Islamic cultures are just as guilty. The only difference is they choose to address crime with violence instead of apathy.
Posted 12/23/2009 at 01:54:21 PMI'm so happy we'll be forced to pay for the healthcare of all these miserable low lifes.
Posted 12/23/2009 at 02:11:51 PMWhat are you Bo-Bos blathering about?
Have you looked at television lately? A show about a family of mafioso from New