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UPDATE: Julian Harp recounts the day he was shot. See update after the jump...![]()
Wade Edwards: Naked daughter? Naked boyfriend? Armed dad? You knew this wasn't going to end well.
Wade Edwards arrived at his Apopka, Florida home in mid-afternoon to find his 16-year-old step-daughter. Unfortunately, she was in bed. Naked. With 18-year-old Julian Harp. Also naked.
So dad being a dad, he closed her bedroom door and went to load his gun. Harp quickly deduced that he'd gone from wanted to unwanted guest. But before he could get his ass in high-gear -- the recommended for this situation -- Edwards had returned, gun locked and loaded.
"He said, 'Get out, get out, get out of my house," Officer Ed Chittenden told WESH-TV. "He raised his hands and said,
'Please don't shoot, please don't shoot...'"
But Edwards, as you may have guessed, thought shooting would be a very good idea. Perhaps even therapeutic. So he began blasting away at what police politely call Harp's "pelvic area."
Alas, Dad was unable to score a direct hit on his intended testicular target. Harp was hit four times -- twice in the hips, twice in the femur, whatever that is. Wounded, but balls securely in tact, Harp managed to limp to the front yard and call 911.
Edwards confessed to the shooting, but claims it was self-defense. He says Harp leaped out at him and he was forced to shoot. But even we here at True Crime Report -- who heartily endorse the shooting of naked men found in your 16-year-old daughter's bed -- aren't buying that excuse.
Let's get this straight, Mr. Edwards. He leaped out at you, right? And in a startled moment of panic, you still managed to get off four shots at his balls?
Yet this still doesn't mean Edwards is guilty. The kid, after all, is expected to fully recover. And that's allowed him to learn a valuable lesson, namely: Never get naked at your girlfriend's dad's house, you %$#@&% moron!
So let's just say it's a teachable moment and call it a day, shall we?
UPDATE: Julian Harp says it only took 10 seconds between when he was caught having sex, and when he could hear his girlfriend's father, Wade Edwards, cocking his gun.
"As soon as I take a couple of steps down the stairs, he's shooting me," Harp told WESH-TV. "When he shot me the second time ... I took off running down the stairs."
Harp said he was shot in the ass as he was fleeing the house. That's when he screamed and collapsed on the sidewalk. "[I] just lying there ... I couldn't do nothing ... my whole body was getting stiff ... turning purple," Harp said.
Doctors pulled bullets from his stomach and thigh, but he's expected to make a full recovery.
Edwards, however, isn't doing so well. He's been charged with attempted murder and is being held without bail.







"Yet this still doesn't mean Edwards is guilty. The kid, after all, is expected to fully recover."
This logic doesn't make any sense. The kid recovering has zero to do with whether or not Edwards is guilty of shooting him.
Posted 10/16/2009 at 03:39:25 PMThis is total crap. The guy isn't even the girls biological father, so what gives him any right to shoot another for having sex with his step daughter? He better hope the kid don't come back after him.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 01:37:43 AMHi hope someone shoots the writer of this thing in the balls, man hating cunt that he is.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 03:49:22 AMPete, don't you think it's time to finally explain about who exactly you're speaking when you use terms like "we here at True Crime Report"?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 03:59:09 AMdamn that shit is fucked up
Posted 10/17/2009 at 01:53:57 PMWhat this man did was definitely wrong but what difference does it make that he was not her biological father. My husband isn't my daughter's biological father but he's been there for her longer than her dead-beat "donor". And if that had been my kid, I don't think my husband would have missed, however wrong it is. Sorry.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 05:37:59 PMIf it had been my daughter, I would have done the same thing except I wouldn't have missed!
Posted 10/17/2009 at 06:20:37 PMSee here in Tx we have the Castle doctrine which says if someone I don't know is in my house and they die oh well guess they shouldn't have been there. And some dude naked and in bed with my "step" daughter is in my eyes raping her. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. No jury in the world would convict me.
P.S. I don't miss.:)
Posted 10/17/2009 at 07:43:40 PMwell when you raise a girl since she was little... then you r the father step daughter or not.... i would have done the same damn thing......you don't mess with a guys family.....plus the guy is a dirt bag.....just look at him and his brother and friends....all typical ghetto people...julian harper has the longest rap sheet with the police.......well deserved.....all for wade edwards
Posted 10/17/2009 at 09:00:13 PMthat guy is 18?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:44:22 PMTotally creepy how many people here don't think a girl has the right to her own body. Either you all never got laid in high school or you have seriously inappropriate feelings about your own children. 16 year olds have sex. Get over it. Creepy.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:45:05 PMOh no, what a shame for a girl with the age of consent to have sex with another human being. Better get the gun.
Look, if he was rapping her, fine. If he was given a real warning ad opportunity to leave, fine. But this idiot was out of line.
Gun rights have nothing to do with it. This nigger was out of his mind.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:47:12 PMall of you people saying you would do it are effing scumbags... just because you can't get over the fact that your little girl is a whore you would shoot some poor kid in the nads?
anyone who would even consider that should die now
what ever happened to decency in this world
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:50:17 PMThe "femur" is also called the "thigh bone". It's the long hard thing inside your leg, between the hip and the knee. I learned that in 7th grade or so, but if I hadn't there's this amazing thing out there called Google, you should try it some time, it's very useful.
The aorta and the femoral arteries (whatever they are) pass through the area into which wrathful (step-)Papa Bear was discharging his weapon in the middle of the afternoon when other people are at work. A person can bleed out in minutes if those arteries are pierced. This jerk almost killed a teenager for pestorking his teenage daughter. To be fair, his wrath is understandable, since it has never before in the history of the world happened that a 16-year-old girl invited a boyfriend over for a quick one while her parents were supposed to be out of the house.
And by the way, the age of consent in Florida in this situation is 16, see Section 794.05, Florida Statutes: "A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree ..." Again, Google is your friend.
I sure miss Steve.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 10:58:46 PMPlease tell me that this has a happy ending and he turned the gun on himself.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:02:21 PMNo let's not just call it a day.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:06:14 PMLet's call it the fucking madness prevalent in the US today - shooting a 16 year old kid 4 times - I mean really.
Pete Kotz you're a moron whoever you are.
I hope Edwards gets a Attempted murder charge.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:06:49 PMYou "heartily endorse the shooting of naked men found in your 16-year-old daughter's bed"?? You do realize that it's not ok to shoot a person just because you're angry with them, right? I thought you were supposed to report on crime, not encourage it.
And I don't believe that you don't know what a femur is. I suspect you just think that your audience is too stupid to know what a femur is. Some of your editorializing has that fake-dumb ring to it as well. Why are you writing down to the lowest common denominator? If that's where you set the bar, that's the only sort of reader you'll ever get.
You're a writer. WRITE, damn it.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:19:12 PM"whatever that is."
srsly?
Someone beat Pete Kotz to death with a femur, preferably his own. Maybe then he'll figure out what it is. Moron.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:20:10 PM"...balls securely in tact"?
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:32:47 PMI'd say there was a serious lack of tact actually.
Oh and everyone who passed the 6th grade has surely heard of the femur bone.
The femur is the bone of your thigh. Come on Mr. Kotz, try to show some more intellect when you're writing your articles.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:40:16 PMI don't know what the fuck kind of man you are if you can't handle the fact that your daughter likes to have sex. Not a grown man, that is for damn sure.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:50:20 PMThat "dad" is a fucktard, so is Peter Koz. Or Whatever his name is.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:55:34 PMI think this is justice, that punk got what he deserved. And if you're my 16-year-old baby girl, or my step-child, and living in my house, then hell no you don't "have a right to your body" if you think that means bringing some horny eighteen-year-old motherf-cker over to risk knocking you up. Where the hell do you think babies come from, fools!
My girls are grown now, and the horndogs out there better be glad the are, cuz I just might just have got some ideas from this dude.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:57:58 PMAre you shitting me?! "...twice in the femur, whatever that is." I'm taking your writer's card away.
Posted 10/17/2009 at 11:59:36 PMI wonder what kind of gun the dad was using. Shooting 4 times would have killed just about anyone, or at least cost the person his legs.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:05:31 AMwhat the fuck is wrong with the step-dad? he shot in self defense? did the boy have an errection? damn, it must've been bid
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:09:10 AMGod Bless Dad! Little scumbag got what he deserved. After all, dad didnt Shoot to kill. Time to bring back justice.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:12:22 AMWas this story written by a retarded 12 year old? My god.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:15:44 AMRight on Pops
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:20:58 AMSome of you may think of it as an act of incredible violence, but if you think about it, it's an act of love. He loved his daughter so damn much, that he would shoot at another man's balls, to prove it.
This should be a movie. I think it would be perfect for the family.
"No court in the world would convict me"
Really, whatever's husband?
Perhaps you think the world stops at the texas border and ships just fall off the edge. You might not realise that out in the sane world, shooting a man 4 times for simply having consensual sex with your legal-age daughter is actually attempted murder and would see you doing 5 to life, depending on circumstances.
This article is bizarre, the sentiments on display here from people are bizarre, and it's terrifying to see such moronic attitudes in the year 2009.
"Castle doctrine which says if someone I don't know is in my house and they die oh well guess they shouldn't have been there"
What in the holy fuck is that? Is this true? What about if they were invited in by your family? If you still think this is valid, well, I hope Iran does develop a nuke and they can start by pointing one at the lone star, what a bunch of cave men.
If I walked in on my 16-year-old daughter having sex, I would apologise and then go and have a long talk with my wife about where it all went wrong. I would probably have a pretty decent fight with the young lady later, too, but how the hell is it the dude's fault? He's the one innocent party in all this anyway, I did worse when I was his age.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:21:39 AMI would do the exact same thing. No one sleeping with my daughter while they in my house.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:33:24 AMHye all... Should Shoot The Writer On This Page,..
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:33:30 AMwhat just can i say,past is past... never repeat and post something bad has happen... It Will militate Others In a Reality Life... Thanks~~
16 yr old girl, 18 yr old guy. Think that is Statutory Rape in most states. It is an adult sleeping with a minor. Shoot a guy raping my step daughter is justifiable homicide.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:40:02 AMAll those who are writing to explain what a femur is to the author, newsflash: he knows what it is. He knew what it was when he wrote the story. He was intentionally being obtuse to point out the difference between a serious news piece and his sarcastic piece. He was actually pointing out the stupidity of shooting someone for a non-offense. And for those who say they would do the same, what the f is your problem. I can only assume you blacked out between the ages of 11 and 34 because this is what teenagers do. Boys AND girls. So grow up.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:42:19 AMRather than shoot some guy why don't people teach their children about sexual responsibility, decision making and consequences.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:44:18 AM"You walked out of my dreams,
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:49:56 AMAnd into my arms.
Now you're my angel divine.
You're sixteen,
You're beautiful,
And you're mine."
Parents don't own their children. And kids will have sex, no matter what. Better to educate them about it rather than to force them not to do it.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:01:19 AM"Tonight's the night I've waited for,
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:02:05 AMBecause you're not a baby anymore.
You've turned into the prettiest girl I've ever seen.
Happy birthday, sweet sixteen"
"Sixteen candles make a lovely light,
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:06:54 AMBut not as bright as your eyes tonight.
Blow out the candles, make your wish come true:
For I'll be wishing that you love me, too"
educate them about it rather than to force them not to do it.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:09:39 AMvery cruel
hahahhahah .. I'm assuming the dad and daughter were white. If so, with all these people posting comments about "niggers", I hope the dude gave it to her good. I'm glad the moron dad watched his whore little white princess get anal pounded by a big black dick. hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhah.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:32:19 AM"No court in the world would convict me"
Every jury in the world would convict you. What's wrong with you.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:45:23 AMThe writer of this story has terrible writing skills.
Beyond that, he's a shmuck. Shooting a kid is ok because hes having sex? I was having plenty of sex when I was 18 and I definitely do not deserve to be shot.
Idiot
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:57:41 AMNice move bonehead.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:05:26 AMNow Edwards will go to jail for attempted murder and Harp will be having consensual sex with the daughter whenever he wants.
When daddy's away, it's time to play...
I'm assuming the majority of you who are calling the father a disgrace or whatnot don't have daughters. Yes, children will have sex, but that doesn't make it okay. He obviously loves his daughter very much (step daughter or not) and went into a rage when he felt his daughter needed to protected (which she did if you ask me. stds, pregnancy, what caring parent wouldn't flip the eff out... can you imagine what it's like to see some scumbag having sex with your little girl? that has to be horrifying,even if she was 30 years old). If anything we can assume no guys are going to come near this girl until she's in college so he definitely succeeded for the time being.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:15:18 AMAbout the Castle Law comment in Texas... that's not at all how Castle law works (unless he broke in and was raping your daughter).
Also, to everybody that says they would shoot any guy you caught having consensual sex with your daughter in your house... I can't wait to get with your daughters (assuming they're legal and not hideous) while you're getting ass raped in jail.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:30:05 AMThe author of this article is, at the very least, spectacularly ignorant. Anybody who would shoot another person for having CONSENSUAL sex with their daughter is a sociopath and needs to be in prison. If you think that is acceptable behavior, you are mentally unbalanced.
News flash dads: Your daughters have vaginas. Eventually, they're going to use them. If they're over 15 years old, then statistically they're probably using them ALREADY. If that fact drives you into a murderous rage, then you should see a therapist and start working out your deep-seated sexual issues before you end up in prison. I'm sure you don't think you're crazy, but crazy people never do. That's NOT rational behavior.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:52:14 AMEric would be dead right about Castle Doctrine in Texas. If you genuinely believe that the law will protect you if you walk into your own home and shoot someone who has been invited their by a resident of said home, then you are in for quite a lawsuit. Unless that person has committed a crime in entering your house, or has committed a crime inside your house you have absolutely no right to shoot.
Also, the age of consent in Texas seems to be 17, and the law will also protect individuals who are within 3 years of 17, so even in this instance (bearing in mind this didn't even happen in Texas) it would be illegal to shoot the young man in question for "rape".
Please feel free to take my 5 minutes of research and go and pretend you know what you're talking about with other internet boards or your friends.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htm
http://www.ageofconsent.com/texas.htm
Posted 10/18/2009 at 03:49:09 AMHalf the people on this board are simply retarded. You would shoot a teenage boy if you caught him in bed with your teenage daughter, huh? Wow. Great parenting skills. I'm sure your daughter will grow up to be a very well-adjusted young woman. You never had sex when you were a teen? Probably not, actually.
This guy must have been raping his teenage stepdaughter. Otherwise, there's no way he would have reacted with such idiotic rage and jealousy.
Man -- I'm sure glad guns are legal in the US! We've got such responsible, adult citizenry!
Posted 10/18/2009 at 04:49:53 AMOk obviously a lot of people are posting who are not dad's themselves so have no clue what they're talking about. If I were this dad, I have no clue what I would do in that situation. The rage, and emotion might possibly take over...all rational thought might disappear. So I suggest you morons don't have sex with underage girls in their parent's house. Also, since when do you have to be a biological father to love and raise a child? Biological ties aren't everything.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 05:48:26 AMNormally I don't agree with straying off topic in the comments of an article... but who in their right journalistic mind writes, "whatever that is" in the middle of their story?! If you don't know what a femur is, (which by now you should know since everyone else who knows how to use their resources or has passed elementary school has told you what it is) GO USE GOOGLE or find a dictionary! I read up to that point and then just couldn't focus on the actual article cause all I could think about was, "What a moron". Yikes...
Posted 10/18/2009 at 05:59:46 AMI'm with Edwards on this one. I'm glad he managed to shoot the sucker, if I were in his place I'd do the same thing. He can't help that his step-daughter is a slut, but at least he's trying to raise her with some morals.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:11:20 AM"All those who are writing to explain what a femur is to the author, newsflash: he knows what it is. He knew what it was when he wrote the story. He was intentionally being obtuse to point out the difference between a serious news piece and his sarcastic piece. He was actually pointing out the stupidity of shooting someone for a non-offense. And for those who say they would do the same, what the f is your problem. I can only assume you blacked out between the ages of 11 and 34 because this is what teenagers do. Boys AND girls. So grow up."
Quote For Truth
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:42:34 AMAll of you saying you'd do the same thing but wouldn't miss I feel sorry for your children. Having parents that lack the forward sight to think about the consequences to their actions... How can you be a parent when you're in jail you fool? Your irresponsibility just cost your child one of their parents. I'd vote for you as "Parent of the Year." I understand anger, but seriously. Attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon/aggravated assault when your age of consent child is doing the same damned thing you were doing at that age?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 09:03:51 AM"What?? said:
This is total crap. The guy isn't even the girls biological father, so what gives him any right to shoot another for having sex with his step daughter? He better hope the kid don't come back after him. "
Though I do not at all say the Dad is right in this case, The statement that since he isn't the biological father so he had no right bugged me. Step Fathers are sometimes better fathers than the biological ones, being a Father only means you impregnated the mother. Being a DAD takes a whole lot more, and millions of Step Fathers jump in and fill that role every day. Now I'm not saying the Man had a right to shoot the kid, BUT, he didn't have that right because they are both human, and the sex was consensual sex between his daughter and this boy, and they are both of responsible age to say yes. No person has the right to shoot another in this situation, but the fact that this man isn't her biological father makes no difference.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 09:16:36 AMWhat ever happened to a good ass whopping, there are other ways to deal with such a situation as well, in my situation i got a bunch of biker friends together and had a little talk and i mean a talk with the "kid"(23)and he DID walk away from this and never saw him again. Then i had the talk with my 16 year old niece and laid down the law of dating 23 year old man. Kids are kids and they try and experiment and pushing the boundaries and as a parent you have to remind them once in a while where these boundaries are. The parenting skills are very questionable in this situation, say the least!
Posted 10/18/2009 at 09:51:19 AMWho's picture is that? Since the guy in the picture is probably too young to have a teenage daughter, I'm assuming it is the boyfriend. So why post only the picture of the boyfriend? Why not include the father? Why the media still wants to create the perception that the black male is the prime criminal?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 10:06:47 AM"Who's picture is that? Since the guy in the picture is probably too young to have a teenage daughter, I'm assuming it is the boyfriend. So why post only the picture of the boyfriend? Why not include the father? Why the media still wants to create the perception that the black male is the prime criminal?"
You do realize that pic is of the father right?
if you use your brain and click on the picture it clearly says "Wade Edwards"
fucking moron...
oh and for everyone who thinks its ok to shoot someone who is of legal age to have sex. i hope you all rot in hell.
what the hell ever happend to the parent to daughter talk? talk to her about safe sex, buy her condoms, etc
there are smarter ways to deal with it then being a fucking retard and assuming its ok to shoot someone because you have personal issues and fear with the fact your daughter is growing up.
and before you make some stupid ass comment like "oh i bet he isn't a dad"
well guess what, im a dad but unlike the majority of you i have the intelligence and morals to be a good parent.
seriously..wtf is wrong with you people, did you get dropped on your head or something?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 10:58:52 AMProbably one of the most poorly written articles I've ever read.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:32:37 AMWow. You call yourself a writer? Haha. Whatever that is? Really? You don't know what the biggest damn bone in the body is?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:44:59 AMIts obvious all the people in here that are mad at the father are perverts who would be the type caught on that Nightline show trying to have sex with a teenage girl. Also, none of them could possibly be fathers of daughters. NO FATHER in any universe would be happy about their teenage daughter having sex in their house. Trust me, if it wasn't a gun shot it would have been a royal ass whopping with no questions asked.
ALL THOSE POSTING ANGRY STATEMENTS ABOUT THE FATHER HERE ARE SEXUAL PREDATORS AND PERVERTS WHO NEED A LIFE.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:48:01 AMshooting some guy because he was having sex with your consenting, 16 year old daughter? guess what America, 16 year old girls want penis the same way 16 year old boys want vagina.
your daughter growing up and doing what normal healthy humans do at that age isn't a good, or even a bad excuse to shoot someone.
I hope this dad goes to prison for this shit
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:49:44 AMthis guy deserves to be locked up. i bet the "father" was fucking 16yr old chicks when he was younger.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:50:12 AMSome of you people, including the writer of this post, are flat out dumb. If you think it is ok to shoot a kid for having legal, consentual sex with your daughter, you are out of your mind. You were either not sexually active until your mid twenties (and my guess is that you were a virgin by circumstance not by choice) or you only slept with orphans. The "trying to raise her with some morals" comment is one of the top 5 most idiotic statements ever typed. What kind of backwards morals forbid consentual sex and allow horrific violent acts? The racism, both blatant and veiled, in these comments is also a little overwhelming. What century are you people from? And can you go back? Congratulations on being offensively ignorant in your comments and egregiously bad in your abilities to discern between acceptable and unacceptable behavior in a modern society.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:04:42 PMI cant believe this was on Digg. Its a false title. The writer is a man hating fag. Their are more guys out their banging chicks in high school then their are over protective dads. I'm rooting for the teenager, and so should any red blooded man.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:08:21 PMSo, how exactly does being a man and having sex with another girl automatically title you a "scumbag"? Sex is one of the most important aspects of life. Man and woman. Adam and Eve. There is a difference between having a whore of a daughter that brings home 10 guys a week, and having a normal daughter who engages in sexual activities.
Tell your daughter not to have sex....SHE WILL DO IT.
But, maturely explain to her why she needs to use a condom every single time (and every other stipulation), and actually be on the same level as your daughter...and I'm willing to bet anything she will respect you on the situation and listen better than she would otherwise.
EVERYBODY HAS SEX. And to the people here that seriously think they are "protecting" their daughters from "the evil penis", I'm willing to bet anything that your daughters are seriously obese, or they are guaranteed having sex. Probably right now.
Violence is worse than sex any day of the week. And for those who disagree, wake the fuck up. It's 2009.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:08:55 PM"twice in the femur, whatever that is"
We are all a bit stupider for reading this worthless article. Pete Kotz, you write like a giddy fifth grader.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:12:17 PMIt's true, the writer is a dumbass.
What's worth, he thinks he's actually witty. Feels a little like a 14-year-old trying to write like a hip grownup.
And failing.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:18:58 PMi was having sex at the age of 16 and every girl i was with gave consent and at that age all of there parents knew me, that guy did not deserve to get shot, i do blame him for being an idiot and doing it at the girls house, however being shot is not the right answer to this, if the dad really had a problem with it, he should have sent his daughter off she is the one more in the wrong in my eyes. bringing an 18 year old guy into your house and having sex or not with out your parents knowing who the hell he is. is whats wrong If you raise your kids right they will never end up like this, in fact most of you people that agree with him shooting the guy prob have kids out doing the same thing behind your back b/c your to hard on them
Posted 10/18/2009 at 12:51:37 PMShe's 16. Dumbass is 18. Stepfather is the legal guardian. Underage sex is against the law.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:13:26 PM" Hey he got the booty now pay the consequences!!" If it was me I would just beat the crap out of him!!! I hope he gets charge for having sex with a minor.....
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:16:31 PMYeah, Dad is PSYCHO.
Kids have sex like that. Every day. Not worth killing someone over.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:17:11 PMI hate ignorance. The women up there that said her husband wouldn't have missed. You're a hick. And so is your husband. This man WILL be convicted. The 18 year old was invited into the house, regardless of his rap sheet with the police, he didn't deserve to be shot. Kicked out and never invited back? yeah, for sure. But any man or women who thinks that you can just shoot your problems away will end up behind bars. You fucking hicks.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:17:59 PMDo you people not understand consent laws!?!
The girl was just as wrong in this situation for having him over to have sex. Dumb Cunt. He is also a dumb cunt for doing it. But being shot for it? no.
You people need to realize 16 year old girls think about boys and sex. period.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:20:28 PMWhat horrible writing. How does this guy hold down a job as a reporter?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:40:44 PMThe writer is a Mangina Feminazi,if you turned it round a 18 year old girl with a 16 year old girl,would it be right to shoot her in the Uterus?
Whatever,your so called dead beat donor is not here to defend himself,who is to say that your not keeping his daughter away from her Father,as we know the fairness of family court.
Whatever's husband,a armed Mangina,who has a taste for a other's men discarded left over's,or are you waiting for the Daughter to mature?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:50:07 PMI await the day when people realize that other people like to have sex. Big deal.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 01:56:37 PMOk. Dude. You need to reorganize your morals. Shooting someone is not a proper response to anger of any sort. The fact that people such as you fail to realize that is why anger-motivated crime is so damn prevalent in society today. As far as the 18-year old kid, yeah, he did something that he maybe shouldn't have, and that was illegal, but the dad did something about twenty times more wrong by pulling out a fucking gun to shoot the kid
And are you serious with the "femur, whatever that is" comment? If you are, you are a dumbass, if you aren't, that is shittily-integrated irony.
You really are a bad writer, by the way. You try to be cutesy and you show some small amount of sarcasm here and there, but you fail to realize that only a minority of the internet population shares your rather conservative ideals. So, what ends up happening is that your fail attempts at humor just end up making you look like a pretty creepy guy.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:10:30 PMI don't care if she is your daughter, shooting her fuck-buddy, boyfriend, whatever, is not a form of loving endearment. If she consented, it is not rape. All you can do is tell him to get out. You have a right to your property, not the manhandling of his junk.
Neil said,
"I hope Iran does develop a nuke and they can start by pointing one at the lone star, what a bunch of cave men."
That's not true. Only about 4/5 of the people here are complete morons. I'd like to think I'm not one of them.
If they do drop the nuke, someone please let me know before hand, thank you.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:18:31 PMWhy? They weren't really related and it's not like the guy was some unknown riffraff off thr street. The father knew who and where he was.
The kid must've been afraid it was his only chance or he'd probably have planned it better. They could've made a nest in the attic or something.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:25:09 PMA violent black man? I don't believe it.
/sarcasm
Posted 10/18/2009 at 02:47:21 PM"He can't help that his step-daughter is a slut, but at least he's trying to raise her with some morals." Yes, the moral that guns are used to solve problems, right?
Jeez Louise, I can see kicking the guy out of the house and having a nice long shouting row with my daughter, but shooting the kid? That's insanity. He deserves an assault with a deadly weapon charge.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 03:18:31 PMTo all the people that went on google to look up the castle doctrine,sarcasim is lost on you people.Of course what I said was an extremely simplified version of how the law reads.Get over yourselves. None of you are as smart as you think you are. Also, I gaurenfuckintee that I wouldn't be convicted because the story my lawyer and I tell the cops would be this: I came home and heard odd noises coming from my daughters room. She sounded to me to be in distress.I grabbed my weapon and rushed to her room where I saw a naked older man on top of her.He jumped up and came at me so I fired my weapon aiming for center mass.......Now after it came out they were having consetual sex I would still be in the clear because at the time of pulling the trigger I was acting in good faith. Here in Tx the person you shoot does not need to be in possetion of a weapon. The only thing you need to prove is you belive they are,have or will commit a crime.Our carry laws aren't as liberal as most states but by god we can protect and defend ourselves and our property better than most states without fear of arrest for exercising our god given right. Oh sorry didn't mean to offend the athiests.Our evolution given rights.
Oh and BTW,all the people here who think Texans are crazy gun nuts need to post a pic of themselves.I promise, once I know what you look like I will be sure to ignore you if I see you being harmed.I wouldn't want to offend your delicate sensibilities by saving YOUR life with MY gun.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 03:26:39 PMGet off of your high horses, people. At least this guy actually cares what his daughter is doing. There are too many fathers out there who are missing in thier childrens' lives, leaving them to have sex with whoever they want (could've been a 30 year old guy), go/do where/whatever they want, take drugs, commit crimes, etc. etc. I'm not defending any of the people in this situation. I'm just saying that it could be a million times worse. Put the guy in jail for a month or so and let's get to the real crimes.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 03:54:41 PMJesus fucking christ this is the worst written blog post I've ever seen. Interesting story, and you managed to butcher it to hell and back
Posted 10/18/2009 at 03:58:09 PMPet Kotz, you're a poor writer.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 04:07:20 PMDitto on the messed up writing. However, he should have killed the dude. Horny 18yr old "zero", Step Dad in Charge of 16 yr old "WIN".
Posted 10/18/2009 at 04:58:54 PMso here's the difference between the usa and europe. that's all a matter of education. i would not say nobody, but nearly no one would come to the idea of shooting this guy, in europe.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 05:57:26 PMand yes! this girl is 16. she has definately her own rights of her body! are you people really that insane and retarded in the us? one of my best friends is american, and some others who are all living here in austria, and they all are ashamed of their own country...i guess, i know why.
no wonder, that the hole world, and i really mean the whole world (not just YOUR enemies in afghanistan, iran, north korea, irak and so on), even in europe, asia, afrika, south america are talking just bad about the usa.
it's really just akward...
I am lol'ing at the liberal bisexuals commenting here that are so afraid of guns. Don't want to be shot? Don't fuck a teenage girl in her dad's house, problem solved.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 06:09:54 PM@yes: Even if that was sarcasm, you can still fuck yourself.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 06:47:35 PMHmm its good parenting to shoot the 18yr old having sex consensual sex with ure 16yr old daughter???
Soooo it would be good parenting to have the boys parents shoot the father shooting him, maybe they do also need to take it to another level. Like the stepfather did, torture him for house, days, weeks... Send the videotape to the daughter, since she can also learn her leason.
I'm tired of all these idiotic people. Do u realy think u would help ure daughter by shooting her lover? Seeing his blood or maybe guts all over her body, yeah thats not gonna scar her for life or anything.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 07:01:20 PMHow do you not know (or at least research) what a femur is?
You bring shame on journalists everywhere.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 07:35:24 PMSo how many years for statuary rape is that dum as gonna get?
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:42:28 PMIntact is ONE WORD, humanoid.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:52:08 PMIt was not statutory rape. EVERYBODY here needs to look up laws.
This is sick. There is a huuuuge line between being protective and caring of your daughter, and being a creep obsessed with keeping men away from your daughter at all costs. Shooting somebody for "raping" your baby girl??? Seriously?? She is becoming a woman and is her own person, able to make her own decisions and is becoming confident in her sexuality.
How many of you big tough guys fucked 16 year old girls when you were 16? Was it rape? FUCK NO.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 08:52:17 PMI hope the man-hating asshole who wrote this article gets their legs shot up and sees how they like it
Posted 10/18/2009 at 09:31:54 PM"See here in Tx we have the Castle doctrine which says if someone I don't know is in my house and they die oh well guess they shouldn't have been there."
Wow, you really ought to look into the Castle Doctrine if you think you are correct.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 09:35:48 PM"Its obvious all the people in here that are mad at the father are perverts who would be the type caught on that Nightline show trying to have sex with a teenage girl. Also, none of them could possibly be fathers of daughters. NO FATHER in any universe would be happy about their teenage daughter having sex in their house. Trust me, if it wasn't a gun shot it would have been a royal ass whopping with no questions asked.
ALL THOSE POSTING ANGRY STATEMENTS ABOUT THE FATHER HERE ARE SEXUAL PREDATORS AND PERVERTS WHO NEED A LIFE. "
No one said they would be happy with it, i know i wouldn't be.
But we wouldn't go off our nut and shoot someone for having consentual sex.
you're telling me that i'm a bad person?
really? i'd be a bad person for talking to my daughter instead of running in guns blazing?
you must be a fucking retard if you assume anyone who approaches shit maturely and smart is a "rapist"
not only is your comment one full of stupidity and ignorance but it makes no logical sense whatsoever.
oh by the way people, the legal age for a girl to have sex is 16, they were both legal.
i hope the stupid,ignorant Americans posting in this actually grow a god damn brain before once again confirming why every other country in the world wishes you got vaporized.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 10:40:23 PMAll you sick bastards saying you'd do the same thing, you are all twisted perverts who demented sexual thoughts about your own children. Shoot someone over a 16 year old having sex!?! What a bunch of filthy animals you people are.
Posted 10/18/2009 at 11:33:57 PM@Whatever's Husband said
Are you familiar with the terms "criminally insane" or "menace to society"? Those terms clearly apply to you, the man in the article, and anyone else who believes it's justifiable to commit violent acts against someone for minor disputes. If you are so enraged by a legal, consensual act that you become driven to manslaughter then for the protection of society you should be put away. I also hope the weeping family of your victim is smart enough to hire a lawyer also, who'd fry your ass by bringing up statements like the one you just made. The kid's only 18, probably still in high school. If the kid was actually dangerous it would of been the father in the hospital instead of the kid.
people with a gun were 4.5 times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not possessing a gun.
The study was released online this month in the American Journal of Public Health, in advance of print publication in November 2009.
So go for it Rambo. You should also post post a picture of yourself so when you're bleeding out from a gun shot wound you got from defending yourself or when you accidentally shoot your own leg us "atheists" know to keep walking. Wouldn't want to your macho sensibilities by saving YOUR life with OUR "delicate sensibilities".
Posted 10/19/2009 at 12:49:27 AMReading about this sick Americans who shoot at somebody because of having sex with their daughter, makes me think how wrong the society there has gone. This would be unheard of in Europe and the rest of the world. Even 3rd world countries know better how to behave. Shame on you!
His daughter is sure traumatized now, and will have difficulties in sexual intercourse as woman because of this episode.
The guy will have the same issue, in case of some damage on his genitals (physical or psychical) he might not be able to get hard anymore.
Those who wouldnt have missed his balls probably dont care about their childrens happiness, just about some imagined "pureness" of angels which exist only in their imagination.
People! Get real!
Sorry to generalize here, not all people in USA are that stupid thank God, but there needs to be done more by you to help educate people!
Posted 10/19/2009 at 09:13:12 AMYeah...Shooting somebody in self-defense is one thing. Shooting somebody in the groin four times while they are naked, is attempted murder.
Nothing else. This man is deserving of life in prison for attempting to kill a naked defenseless teenager.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 12:01:44 PMWhat scares me is that dad missed the desired target.This guy does not need a gun. He could've shot his daughter.And by the way. Why does the daughter have to be a whore? She could've been expreincing sex for the first time. She had to think she was in love if she was brave enough to have sex in her parents house. Certianly didn't sound like rape;nevertheless,a teenager having sex after being told not to does not make the parent bad. Shooting your teen daughters boyfriend four times while she watches.... I'm not sure who benefits from this. The teenage boy is only guilty of being stupid. You do not have sex at your girlfriend's parents house! And if you do, if dad leaves the room he caught you in, don't be there when he returns. Hit the window and run like a "BOLT", see her in a few days and find out how things turned out. Hey, I guess that's the lesson for today.
As a dad of three daughters, I know how pops feels. I also know that he could've have made a better choice. For instance; they were both naked, dad could've whooped both thier asses with a wet belt, then called the police and had the boy arrested for statutory rape. This action would've been not only self-gratifying but, justfied by law. No one in this scenario should've been shot.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 12:15:28 PMA better choice could be made, but let this stand to all boys if you come in my house and I catch you with one of my daughters, I will not miss.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 12:45:24 PMif i'm the boy's father,i get my gun and we'll see what a tough guy "stepdad" is..these were two teenage kids,for gods sake..and what is this talk about a 16 year old "babygirl"..now THATS creepy..
Posted 10/19/2009 at 01:38:08 PMParenting does not stop at rage. Meaning you can not stop being responsible just because you are angry. What is the lesson for the "little girl" in this scenario? No ones talking about that. She just watched her step dad almost shoot her boy friend to death because "she" had sex. The question is, why this step father reacted with such malice? Typically rage against sex organs is a crime of passion. Meaning someone reacted out of blind fury caused by jealousy. This step dad had every right to be angry, but about what? Angry that his daughter broke the rules and brought a boy in their house while they were away? Yes.Angry that his sixteen year old daughter is already having sex? Yes. Angry because it wasn't him she was having sex with? Hell to the no!!! All you fathers out ther talking about shooting a boy for having consentual sex with your teenage daughter are idiots. If you will kill a boy for having consentaul sex with your daughter, what are you going to do if she is actually raped? That question is rhetorical.If you have ever been a sixteen year old boy or girl, you know the one thing you are willing to risk life and limb for is SEX. If you want to kill something kill the idea that your child is perfect. Kill the thought that your little girl is as pure as the driven snow and embrace the concept that teens; yes, even yours, is at the very least curious about, if not actually engaging in some form of sexual activity. Where are all the grown ups? Better yet. Where are all the men?
Posted 10/19/2009 at 02:13:15 PM@ Class:
Take your bullshit statistics elsewhere.If your going to cite a study post the link and quit being lazy. Contrary to what you may believe or read on a Govt. run study my gun has saved my life twice.The first time was about 5 years ago when two illegal aliens tryed to rob me at knife point in broad daylight.(and don't start with the "how do you know they were illegals?" thy were arrested at the scene and border patrol got involved) The second time was when my mother in laws neighbor attacked me with a knife and stabbed me twice before I could retrieve my weapon from my truck.I drew down on him,threw him to the ground and held him at gunpoint till the police showed up. So let's do the math....I've pulled my weapon in selfdefense twice and shot myself...wait,how many times oh thats right NONE(jackass).Ok and how many innocent bystaders were injured?oh thats right zero..again.And how many bad guys did I hurt????Damn none again.Damn dude your little study is looking like bullshit huh?let's do some more math here.how many people do I know that have pulled a weapon in selfdefense?uuummmm????at least 8 but we'll call it 10 just to use a round number.And how many of those people hrut an innocent person or themselves?Ooooo lookie there none again.Ok one more time with the math.How many people do I know that have pulled thier gun to protect someone they didn't even know? 2.And how many inocent people there got hurt? WOW!!!! Zero again.Amazing isn't it? Take your bullshit numbers and go away. It seems to me that your infinatly more likely to survive a violent encounter if your armed. I know 100% if I wasn't I would be dead. The second man who attacked me didn't wanna rob me he was hell bent on killing me.
That should be enough evidence to prove that not all gun owners are a danger to themselves or others.Two times I was leagally justified in using deadly force and I didn't.I'm not saying I would shoot the guy fucking my daughter.I'm just saying if I did there are ways to get around it and I completely understand why this guy did what he did. And unless any of you were there to witness what happened keep your negetive comments to yourself. You don't know what happened after the dad came in that room.Maybe his intention was to hold the kid there till the police arrived but like the stary says the kid rushed him. Maybe he's abusive to the girl and there is already a tresspass waring on him. In which case the MINOR child has no authority to allow him in the house.Another possibility is that both of those kids were high on crack and the dad felt his life was in danger and he didn't wanna kill the kid so he shot him in the hip for that reason. Alot of police are trained that way.If you shoot to kill aim center mass.If you shoot to stop,aim for the hip.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 03:50:23 PM"twice in the femur, whatever that is. "
Do you pride yourselves on idiocy and ignorance? Sarcasm, which I can only hope this is, only seems to translate to stupidity here. The femur is the bone inside your thigh. I'll just have to assume you know what a thigh is since it is close to the balls. And you dense neanderthals seem to grasp where those are.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 05:56:20 PMThis is so stupid. There's not anything different with that girl at 16 than there is at 18. The "age of consent" laws are so dumb two rocks could come up with better ideas when it comes to sex and our society's treatment of it.
Why don't we stop worrying about physically/mentally mature teens having sex so long as they've been properly educated on safe sex measures (no abstinence only B.S.) and instead of instilling fear and shame into our children over the very natural and reason-for-being concepts of sex and nudity, and instead turn to violence- which our nation seems to have NO problem with, as evidenced by morons like the step-father in this story being able to have a gun in the first place (when they obviously don't pass a common-sense test).
Our nation is being dragged down and kept in the dark ages by far too many prudes. It's almost 2010, people. Step into the modern age.
Posted 10/19/2009 at 08:48:01 PM1.) I need to live in Texas
Posted 10/20/2009 at 09:10:07 PM2.) Dad, Step-dad, or otherwise.. If you raise a child and you care for them all their lives and watch them grow, kill the weeds growing around them, especially weeds with balls attempting to screw ur daughter in your house.
3.) He wouldn't have made it to his cell phone.
4.) Anyone who disagrees, hope ur daughter gets pregnant... you'll feel different in that first moment of thinking about what she did to get there.
Good Lord, sounds like a lot of people in Texas can't wait to kill someone. What's with all the anger? Maybe you should kill your daughters when they wear skimpy outfits, that would solve the problem!
Posted 10/20/2009 at 10:38:41 PMI wholeheartedly agree with your list, Torey S.! Let me add a few points to your list:
5.) Make sure your daughter always wears a burka when leaving the home
Posted 10/21/2009 at 05:22:03 AM6.) Always have a male family member accompany your daughter when she leaves the house
7.) Never EVER tell her about any method of contraception besides staying abstinent. As we all know this is the very best method to avoid pregnancies (just ask Sarah Palin!) and STDs.
8.) Make sure your daughter knows how to handle a gun and take her regularly to shooting ranges or hunting (for knowing how to defend herself and venting off).
9.) Never ever treat your daughter as a human being in the process of growing up and taking over responsibilities, after all this process would have to have started long ago, and we using point 5.) and 6.) to avoid that after all.
10.) To avoid all the hassle - just make sure that you don't get any children in the first place!
I am a mother of two beautiful girls. If I or my husband (which is their step father) were in his shoes I believe the outcome would have been similar. This is not a "boy". The article states that he is 18 years old. In my state (TN) that makes you a legal adult. So as far as that goes he was raping that 16 yr old girl. He should also be charged in the situation. As if that little girl was my daughter, she wouldn't see the light of day unless it was to go to school!!! Not only should the "man" be punished but the girl had a part in it too and should be punished as well, because the parents are always to blame if you hear about a situation like this, especially if the girl was to become pregnant.
Posted 10/22/2009 at 09:43:24 AMI'm thinking it's a race issue, it was a white kid that was hung like a horse and the step-dad was so enraged that he could be out-gunned by a white kid decided to shoot it off.
A Justified shooting.
It's either that, or the step-dad is gay-gay-gay and caught the kid wiping his cock off on his brand new white linen curtains.
Posted 10/23/2009 at 04:43:09 AMAgain a Justified shooting.
THIS IS 2 WATEVERS HUSBAND U KNOW WHAT IM A TEEN MYSELF AND I DONT THINK HE SHOULD HAVE SHOT THE BOY BECAUSE IT TAKES TWO AND SHE LET HIM IN THE HOUSE IN HER ROOM HER BED AND INSIDE OF HER......................???????RIGHT IF I WAS THE MAMA OR DADDY I WOULD BE WOOPEN HER BUTT....YEA HE THE STEP DAD BUT MOST KIDS TODAY DONT WANT THERE STEP DADS TO PROVIDE 4 THEM ANYMORE THEY WANT THERE BIOLOGICAL DADS TO STEP UP AND DO SOMTHING FOR A CHANGE TAKE IT FROM ME IVE GONE THROUGH THAT SAME STAGE ALLREADY BECAUSE I WAS HURT BY A MAN AT A EARLY AGE(MY REAL DAD) HE NEVER TOOK CARE OF ME SO IT HURTED ME DEEP DOWN IN MY SOUL......BUT I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOUR SAYING THE GIRL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE NOT THE BOY
Posted 10/24/2009 at 12:08:09 AMmy parents loved me, which is why they educated me about safe sex and did not try to dissuade me from having it. at 15 i had a very healthy and happy sex life with my 17 year old boyfriend (and then i was 16 and he was 18, just like in this article). my mother only said that she did not want to have to see or hear me having sex, or see any evidence of it (understandable, that would be kinda creepy) but she knew it was bound to happen and was always there for me when i needed advice, birth control, etc. guess what i've made it to 22 without any std's or unwanted (or wanted for that matter) prengancies, and neither of my parents are in prison either.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 12:43:02 AMthat's really weird to happen among amarican! since we know that few months ago Mackenzie Phillips, said she was 17 or 18 the first time she can remember having sex with her father not with a boyfriend!! so how old she was when she had done it the first time with a boyfriend!! maybe few months. she also included that she had sex with her father the night before she was to marry Jeff Sessler, a member of the Rolling Stones, so she came to the theory that "you grandfather might be your biological dad"!! unproven theory yet! she also added "Dad wanted me to be his wife"!! so what happened to you american people, you started to change! NO GOOD! something is going wrong! if the shooting happened in Mexico I would accept it, but in USA unbelieveable!! God bless the morality,
Posted 10/24/2009 at 06:07:56 PMbleargh said:
my parents loved me, which is why they educated me about safe sex and did not try to dissuade me from having it. at 15 i had a very healthy and happy sex life with my 17 year old boyfriend (and then i was 16 and he was 18, just like in this article). my mother only said that she did not want to have to see or hear me having sex, or see any evidence of it (understandable, that would be kinda creepy) but she knew it was bound to happen and was always there for me when i needed advice, birth control, etc. guess what i've made it to 22 without any std's or unwanted (or wanted for that matter) prengancies, and neither of my parents are in prison either.
Posted 10/24/2009 at 12:43:02 AM
The poster above has the best post on this entire blog! Thanks for common sense, and thank your parents for the wonderful job they did in raising you. :)
I can't wait to see this SOB rot in prison where he belongs!
I truly think he was pissed because he wanted step daughter all for himself. Gross.
Posted 10/30/2009 at 10:49:45 PMNow this must be the most extreme example of cockblocking ever!! Forget the lame stories about being interrupted by a drunk buddy while trying to proposition some poor girl in a bar. This is cockblocking taken to the nth degree. Imagine getting all the way to bed and being blocked DURING the act by an armed and angry daddy...lol
Posted 11/01/2009 at 09:30:01 AMThe persons defending the step-father's savage actions and stating they'd do the same thing are incredibly selfish, petulant, controlling and unreasonable. Their emotionally-laden response to the case suggests they want to be the ONLY men in their daughters' lives because they're either secretely in-love with them or are too immature and selfish to let them grow up. Obviously they're threatened by the thought of their daughters choosing to have sex with men their own age because they think their daughters will no longer view them as the main man in their lives. Insecurity personified.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 10:31:07 AMThe supporters of the step-father are probably beta men who are envious of the 18-year-old's ability to attract a young woman.
The step-father's attitude does nothing other than teach young women that they can be as reckless, disrespectful and disobedient of their parents as they want -- provided they're with another man when they choose to do these sort of things -- because "daddy" will always go psycho and assume that "daddy's lil girl" is an innocent victim of some big bad man. There are young women out there who do these sort of things specifically because they want to incite this sort of reaction from their half-witted fathers.
The pretentious "tough man" attitude displayed by them -- The ones who uphold the "i luv ma daughta and teach her morals amd show my luuuuv by shootin any1 she bangs sucka" attitude -- are raising their daughters to be manipulative and cunning.
Posted 11/01/2009 at 10:51:31 AM"Whatever's Husband said:
Also, I gaurenfuckintee that I wouldn't be convicted because the story my lawyer and I tell the cops would be this: I came home and heard odd noises coming from my daughters room. She sounded to me to be in distress.I grabbed my weapon and rushed to her room where I saw a naked older man on top of her.He jumped up and came at me so I fired my weapon aiming for center mass......."
In other words, you'd be willing to lie your way out of the situation because you don't have enough moral conviction to take responsibility for your actions -- talk about double standards and hypocrisy! What sort of message do you think that would send to your daughter?
Posted 11/01/2009 at 11:13:41 AMI can't believe there are assholes on the father's side!
It was consensual sex, not rape! That means she agreed to it!!!
There are idiots who feel it's ok to shoot a guy cause he's having sex? What are you? Retarded? We as a species use sex to continue surviving!!! ITS REQUIRED! You cant go shooting people up for ANY reason, let alone the fact that you're an idiot who feels it's up to you to make up other people's minds about what they can do with THEIR bodies!!
Anyone on the father's side is a psychopath and should be locked up.
Posted 11/02/2009 at 04:23:08 PMWell said Tahiri.
The idiots who are on the father's side are just upset because the 18-year-old wasn't placed through a long and arduous courting process before he gained the "right" to have sex with the 16-year-old. A lot of fathers are bitter pricks who want young men to go through the same crap they had to endure when they were young.
Posted 11/04/2009 at 09:38:31 AMWhat a bunch of inbred, sexually repressed retards. Please seceed, Texas. For Christ's sake it'll raise our national IQ by ten points.
Posted 11/17/2009 at 08:16:47 PMwhat a bunch or weird people, so this man should feel good about catching his SIXTEEN year old daughter at home having sex. Thats why we have so many damn abortians and clowns having children that they dont want to raise. Its all about sex with no responsibility.
Any man could lose it, so get a grip!
Posted 12/01/2009 at 03:37:26 PM16 years old girls have sex (surprise!) and they should be allowed to explore their bodies.
I find it hilarious that everyone's so concerned about the girl, but not the boy. So it's OK for boys to have sex, but girls can't?
This is absolutely disgusting what her stepfather did.
Posted 12/01/2009 at 03:48:06 PMI don't condone what the father did, I want to make that clear. He had no right to shoot the boy, but I understand the reaction. Yes, it takes two to tango, but a parent's reaction is to protect their kid, any generally deny that they could ever be at fault for anything. It's unrealistic, and foolish, and should be overcome, but it's difficult. Did the PAIR of them deserve a butt-whooping? Perhaps, but nobody should have been shot.
As to those who just say that kids are going to do it and they should simply not do it in front of you, or just give them condoms... well, yes, more and more do, and I agree that all kids should have a decent sex education, but I'm sorry, you're reasoning sounds more like an excuse to not take more of a stand with your children. Children are not your friend. You are there to guide them until they are ready to be on their own. Yes, as they get older they deserve to have more freedom, but sex is and will always be a big deal, no matter how much people try to downplay it these days. No there's nothing wrong with sex itself. What people do with it at times, but not with sex itself. Yes, it's used for other things - pleasure, bonding - but in the end it will always at its core be the act of creating life. If it were no big deal, then rape would be a much smaller crime (more along the lines of fighting), but we know better than that. You can't have it both ways, that's just hypocritical.
No matter how mature a 16 year old may seem, they're not adults yet. Their brains haven't finished growing and the regions responsible for processing long term consequences haven't fully developed. In short, they're not ready, and they're not capable of truly appreciating the weight of the act. I'm sure most 16 year olds would disagree, I know I would have at the time, but that's the point, they're not at the point to make the call yet. More than that, they can't even support themselves, let alone handle the potential consequences, and until you can, you have no business doing it. I'm sure some people will disagree with me despite all that, but the brain isn't my only reason.
Any son or daughter of mine getting it into their head to have sex has to keep something in mind: It will either cost them their livlihood and freedom (if they are extremely young), or they can start up their life on their own. I'll even help them find a job, but that will be the last thing other than advice they will get from me. You can pay your own bills, keep your own home, and save up for college on your own? Then by all means, do as you feel. Otherwise you abide by me until you can. That's not a threat, it's just reality. With equal rights come equal responsibilities, so if you want all the freedoms of an adult...
As for the "In Europe" trolls, there's no need for that. You're either looking to cause problems in an already strained discussion, or you're fools just as blind as any you criticize. Europe is not the end-all of morality. Many here would find certain aspects of any European culture to be morally questionable. And people speak of American arrogance. There are educated and uneducated everywhere, wise and foolish, no place holds a monopoly, or even an edge. As for places everywhere criticizing America, well, that has more to do with power than any moral high ground, and if you can't see that, well, then you're not a fraction as smart as you think you are.
Posted 12/16/2009 at 05:59:50 AMI hope the father gets/got a murder charge and then gets off free because he was only shooting to castrate not kill.
As far as I'm concerned he's well within his right as long as the government treats sex as such a taboo subject and holds him legally responsible for any action his daughter takes until she's eighteen.
Posted 12/17/2009 at 06:10:42 AM