Dad raped 5 daughters, had 6 kids with them
Thursday, Nov. 19 2009 @ 2:17PM
| Jamar Jr. was forced to strip naked at gunpoint, then marched to a vacant lot and executed |
He arrived at Lazette's Highland Park, Michigan home and forced 15-year-old Jamar Jr. to strip naked. Then he marched the boy to a vacant lot and forced him to kneel. Mom and Jr. pleaded for him not to shoot. "He got on his knees and begged, `No, Daddy, No,' and he pulled the trigger," Lazette says. Jamar Jr. was dead, shot in the head.
Lazette apparently didn't know her ex would react so violently when she called to let him know about the apparent molestation. Though there's no details on what Jamar Jr. was accused of doing, Lazette seems to imply that it was improper touching, not rape. But she felt a duty to let dad know. "This isn't something you sweep under the rug," she says...
She's now distraught over the incident. "There wasn't nothing that my son wouldn't do for his father. He loved his father so much. There's no justification for what he did, you know, downright shoot your child. He didn't rape her or anything. So why did you have to come and take matters into your hands? We said we were going to get him help."







That poor woman.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:29:41 PMWow Justin you must be white and that would be your way to handle things. If it was a little blonde hair blue eyed lil boy i think your opinion would be slightly different. and you must not be a parent so MY opinion is to not have any and if you do i hope hes big enough to kick your ass!
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:39:34 PMYou are right amber a white kid would be just learning and growing up while a blak one is in training.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:45:47 PMYou need to say my first name and last name together real
fast, twice, to get my point.
Here's a thought: most molesters were victims themselves at some point. So who is a potential candidate for having previously victimized the 15 year old? Maybe dad wasn't acting out of anger but self-preservation...
This assumes, of course that 1) the story is true as reported and 2) the accusation against the 15 year old had any basis in fact, since the boy was killed before any investigation could be done, let alone trial.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:51:07 PMThis story has completely stunned me. At first I didn't know how to react to it. I am now completely disgusted at the pure evil this father has. That was his CHILD, his flesh and blood, his son. And he treated him like a stranger. Not even sure if what was said to him was fact, he humiliated and killed him. This is tragic. The mother did right by telling the father what was said to her. In her mind it was his kids and he had the right to know what was being accused. He, on the other hand, needs the punishment he gave to his son. That poor child.
And the sister, I wonder how she must feel. What if what she was saying was just a little fib? She is only 3, little kids say a lot of nonsense. She probably didn't know what she was really accusing him of doing. It was probably something harmless.
This story has bothered me, and has made me sick to my stomach.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:51:11 PMIt is so sad that your missing parents didn't do a better job at raising your sorry ass. It is true you are Justin igger
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:53:08 PMI agree w. you Karen. He's pathetic. This story is unbelievable...
Posted 11/19/2009 at 02:56:57 PMJustin,
Go play in traffic. Rid the world of your nonsense.
Love,
Jen
Posted 11/19/2009 at 03:06:20 PMWOW! I am shocked that someone would do this to their own kid. It seems to be happening more and more these days, but everytime I hear about something like this it upsets me more and more.
This has nothing to do with race...so those of you leaving racist comments leave that stuff to yourself. The important thing is here why? Now we have another mother without her son, behind some heinous act. The fact that the 15 year old said something about doing inappropriate things was very responsible of him. There are so many people molesting children out there, and nobody speaks up. What he did was right, by telling someone. But what happened to him, should not have...
...my prayers are with the family.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 03:21:09 PMI have read this story on 5 different sites and still can't believe it! There is more to this story than is being told. I can understand rage; I could understand the child getting a whipping from hell; I can even understand the father putting the boy out the house--but to murder one child on the words of a baby?!!! If this kid was touching his sister, he needed help and probably didn't understand how wrong this was at the time. Lawd, what has this world come to. Now the mother doesn't have enough money to even bury the child. Pray for this family and offer any help that you can in donations. Racism has no place in this discussion because molestation, incest and rape takes place in the lives of all nationalities!
Posted 11/19/2009 at 04:21:34 PMI completely agree with CMM. The father's insane reaction speaks more to some form of possible self preservation than to an act of anger.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 04:45:00 PMThis is exactly what a number of TCR readers yell for when they read crime stories: treat the juvenile as an adult! fondling is as bad as rape! shoot child molesters! save tax dollars! that's exactly what I would do!
Posted 11/19/2009 at 05:10:44 PMWhy haven't they spoken up here yet?
Wow the world is indeed a sad place. What drives a person to such insanity.
RT
Posted 11/19/2009 at 07:09:35 PMwww.ultimate-privacy.br.tc
this is so sad i fell bad for the little girl just got raped by her brother then her father kills her brother now her father is going to jail or is going to die.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 07:30:27 PMDad saved countless children from future molestation.
Child molestors don't change; they get worse.
Dad took responsibility for the monstrosity he brought into the world.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 07:53:58 PMThis entire story is sad, as well as most of your comments. If you read the story, you'll notice the mother specifies the boy did not rape his 3-yeqaqr-old sister, in fact he may have done nothing, or it may have been simple childhood curiosity. Did you ever play doctor?
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:06:51 PMI have been following this story all day.
According to multiple reports, the boy did not rape or in any identifiable way molest the toddler. he was apparently accused of doing so by the toddler's mother (his father's gf), and then spoke to HIS mother about it.
She went to his father, saying "There's a problem with our son, and we need to deal with it."
Responsible parenting, IMO. she had no way of knowing that he would then turn around and beat her child, murder him in front of her.
This is a tragedy. By all accounts, this was a nice kid, who felt that he had done something wrong somewhere and took steps to seek guidance and help- and was murdered by his own father for it.
To me- that is a tragedy, and race has not a damn thing to do with it.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:14:45 PMAmerica is dead. Get out while you still can.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:17:20 PMI can't imagine how that kid's father must have felt when he heard about his son touching his sister inappropriately, but either way, that's no excuse for what he did. I hope he's given the harshest sentence possible.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:25:07 PMJust another nigger who would've ended up in jail like the rest of them. Fucking monkeys.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:30:59 PMSomeone please remove Karen's disgusting comment @ 8:30:59 PM.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:38:38 PMI can't believe that people are losing their minds these days. First its the little five year old then its this. i can't believe it. I truely believe the world will be ending in 2012
Posted 11/19/2009 at 08:50:37 PMThis whole story is so sad and scary. That a man/father could take the life of child. To say the least his own child in such a horrible way. The fact that his son pleaded for his life didn't seem to move or convict the father to even stop and think about what he was about to do. To take the word of a 3yrs old is not the best way to come to a conclusion about such a serious matter.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 10:14:16 PMMy questions? what questions did the mother asked her little daughter and what method did the mother take first before calling the father. It seems as if he was not a loving or active parent in these children lives. And that he couldn't have a good relationship with his son, who the mother was quoted saying how much he loved his dad. justice must take place for a life taken away so soon.
I see that boy's picture and it breaks my heart. I can't imagine sacrificing your own child. The truth will never be known now.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 10:19:39 PMI don't know if I should Cry or Throw Up...How could a parent do this...There is no legal form of punishment that fits this crime..
It will be a long time before I can get that Boys face out of my mind
God have mercy on this child's soul...for I have none for his father.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 11:07:21 PMIt's a terrible story, but you have to remember that blacks commit 50% of the violent crime in this country, at the same time they number only 12% of the population. South Africa is the second-place murder capital of the world. Blacks are violent. It has nothing to do with slavery, it has to do with the frontal lobes of their brains, which causes them to have control issues. It's ridiculous to think that they have so many different physical characteristics outwardly and yet nothing can POSSIBLY be different about their brains. The fastest human on the planet is black, blacks jump further and higher and don't need affirmative action to excel in sports, but they certainly appear to have needed it at college and the workplace.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 11:47:46 PMI honestly just don't know. My heart goes out to the family. R.I.P Jamar Jr.
For your father will not, instead he will just burn I'm hell.
Posted 11/19/2009 at 11:52:16 PMRacisim is very much still alive
I totally agree with nellymae and renee. No where in this story or others did it say he raped his little sister or touched her inapporiately. To take the word of a 3 year old is not always the best thing to do. My little brother told our mom when we were little that I touched his "wee wee". When she got down to it she found out that I was helpin him get off the "potty" and helping him get dressed, I accidently touched him. Does that make me a child molester? Hell no. It means it was an accident. Now I'm not sayin ALL little kids lie about everything, but more often times they do. Anyone remember the daycare trials, in what the 80's I believe it was?
My heart and prayers go out to this family. I hope one day they can move on the best they can from this tragedy. That poor mom, I can't imagine what I would do if someone killed or even hurt my daughter.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:10:28 AMTo: Karen and Sharon
Holocost, Columbine, the guy that picked people off from the bell tower, Oklahoma City bombing, just to name a couple, must have been black.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:22:03 AMYes, racism is definitely alive and blacks are more guilty of it than whites.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:26:49 AMYes, the guys who killed at Columbine were white. They are not in the statistics I cited. 50% of the violent crimes in this country are committed by blacks, who are a mere 12% of the population. The guys at Columbine are not included in that statistic, because they were white. There's nothing you can say to undo the statistics on black crime. They're just numbers, but they speak volumes about blacks. Don't forget about South Africa, you can't blame their violent crime stats on the guys at Columbine. Yes, white men also kill people, but not at the rate black men do. It's also a fact that white men don't rape 100 black woman on average everyday. But the converse is true about black men. Suck it up.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:37:28 AMDear Get Real,
If you'd rather discuss white crime statitics we can do that. I'm afraid it's probably true that white males commit a great percentage of the mass murders in this country, they also set most of the wild fires. As a white person, those stats disturb me. Why aren't blacks disturbed by the 50% 12% stat? We were all trying to understand why some dad took his NAKED 15 year old son into a field and shot him in the head, I think the frontal lobe, impulse control thing is looking pretty good as far as explanations go.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:02:34 AMHEY, LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE: 1 LESS CHILD MOLESTER, AND THE DAD DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY THE MUCH DREADED CHILD SUPPORT.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:21:03 AMWow I read that the kid told his mother that he had done something improper. But for a father to do this, well this is beyond control and this man deserves full brunt of the law. Or else we'd be hypocrites as there is a religious sect, one very unpopular as of late, who would've done the same thing this man did.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:22:41 AMIs the religious sect you speak of, Muslims?
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:28:58 AMGod Sharon, all you racist idiots are just too tiresome for words. Pleaes go choke yourself to death on frozen burritos and cheap beer while Jerry Springer plays in the background, you uneducated, meth-smoking, hollow-cheeked, brown-toothed, piece of white trash shit.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:42:01 AMDear Gaggy,
What did I say that was so awful. I'll tell you what's tiresome, what's tiresome is that we don't honestly discuss this stuff and that blacks get to keep up their pity-party and bad behavior. This is exactly the sort of thing that happens when someone tries to openly discuss such issues. I am not a racist, but I am tired of what goes on with blacks in our country. Your little profanity-laced diatribe is exactly the sort of frontal-lob thing I'm talking about. I'm in a Philosophy class this semester and I'll think I'll take your comment to class, along with my comments and give the class an example of what happens in this country, when someone tries to talk honestly about race.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 03:06:34 AMthe reason the man reacted so violently is because he has experienced this before. unfortunately white people are much much too selfish and self-absorbed, and alienated, to see beyond what is in their own heads
Posted 11/20/2009 at 03:36:58 AMDear Bradley,
I don't understand, the man acted violently because he had experienced WHAT before?
Posted 11/20/2009 at 03:49:43 AMBraddie,
What do you mean about the day the world turns? Is it like code for something? Are you referring to the race riots that blacks have been holding whites hostage to for decades? Please explain.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 04:22:25 AMJUSTIN IGGER, He is living proof that man can live without a brain!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 05:37:42 AMDoesn't this site have any Mods? I hate that the internet is full of ignorant, racist cowards who spew such crap when they are anonymous. You have to have Mods to keep things readable.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 05:47:44 AMRacist? Hmmm. Let's see if you find "racism" here: Channon Christian & Christopher Newsom. Along with Ann Presley's rape & murder swept neatly under the rug before Obama's election; or the two men throwing ndustrial acid in Katie Piper's face at pointblank range; or the Kansas Wichita massacre, courtesy of the Carr brothers. Good luck with that "racism"!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 06:12:06 AMSo Lazette Cherry calls her Ex, knowing his violent nature. She's just as guilty for that boy's murder because she put a bug in Daddy's ear based on an 'allegation' by this slut. That kid didn't do shit to her 3-year-old, Miss Cherry simply didn't want him around anymore.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 08:17:42 AMInffffingsane! Rash and ultimate punishment without even knowing exactly what happened. Now no one will ever know—except the little girl of course (who will bury it deeply, where it will fester and erode her mind from within for her entire life).
(Meanwhile, CMM makes an interesting point.)
Posted 11/20/2009 at 08:22:19 AMonce again the real issue is forgotten because of nonsense, people wanting to portray themselves in a intelligent light,which in turn brings the focus away from what went on;a CHILD is dead because a PARENT took his life,doesn't matter what race he was and all your statiscal research will not change that or the FACT that the world has evil people in it and to blame one particular race for most of it,is not FACT or fair.
God bless and much love
Posted 11/20/2009 at 09:15:25 AMThe comments from the Nasty, Filthy, Pink Skinned Racist Pigs named Karen and Justin shows why we as black people really need to change our ways and attitudes. Here we have a tragic story and all the Filthy Pigs can do is spit evil words out of there nasty mouths. Stop killing, hating, and destroying one another black people. If you just have to kill someone then it would be much much much better to Slaughter a Nasty Filthy Racist Pig!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 09:18:40 AMSharon is another example of an ignorant simple minded filthy pig. The thing about the Pigs is that they seem to think that they're so smart! Yet they are the most problemagtic people on the earth. These pigs can't get along with anyone! They are the biggest child molesters, serial murderers, mass murderers, etc etc etc. They go to war every other yr with just about every country and race in the world! Not only are they at war with all of mankind but they also are very destructive to animals, forrest, streams, oceans, lakes, and rivers. These human Pigs are nasty fithy and destructive to the world just like their cousins the four legged pig is to a pig pen. Sharon the pink skin Pig has no clue as to how destructive slavery was and still is to blacks but yet she thinks she's so smart.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 09:40:19 AMSharon, you're talking about black men raping women....GROWN women. Speaking as a black woman raped by a white man at knife point at the age of 16. As wrong and as horrible rape is, regardless of what race the rapist is...let's talk about the statistics of your white men who rape, moleste, sodomize and do every other sick act they can think of to little boys and girls. Not to mention, doing all these sick acts while taping it not only for their enjoyment, but for all to see, to showoff. As crazy as this may sound right now, at least a GROWN woman has a fighting chance to try and protect and save herself and more times then not, if a GROWN woman doesn't survive, she at least didn't go down without a fight. Children don't have that fighting chance Sharon. YOUR statistics show that sex crimes committed on children are almost always comitted by white men.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 09:48:42 AMALL THESE RACIST COMMENTS N LOOKIN UP BLACK STATISTICS IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS SITUATION..A LIFE WAS JUST TAKEN...I HOPE ALL OF THESE IGNORANT PEOPLE ARE DAMNED TO HELL..DAMN!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:34:01 AMNellymae said:
"Did you ever play doctor?"
That is a term for the natural exploration that young children do with eachother, not a 15 year old boy and a 3 year old girl. That is something entirely different. However, we don't really know what he did and whether or not is was something serious. The father's reaction was far too extreme, and makes me wonder what his motives were. If he had waited to find out what happened and it was later discovered that the boy was doing some seriously devious stuff, I may feel different, but to have such an immediate drastic reaction makes me wonder.
As far as Sharon attempting to use statistics to reinforce her racist viewpoints... that's already been proven to be inaccurate. They dont' have any legitimate statistice regarding blacks and crime because it has been confirmed that blacks are more likely to be charged with crimes than to get off with warnings like whites. For example, my mother (who is technically not white, but looks white and has caucasian on her driver's license) was constantly in trouble with the law. For every 10 instances where the police were called, she would be charged with a crime maybe 1 or 2 of them. By the time she got to court, they were offering her all types of diversion programs and kept the charges off her record. If she had been black, she would have been thrown in jail and the key would have been lost. So it's not so much that blacks commit more crime, rather it's that they are more likely to be charged in the first place, and they are more likely to be given sentences that far out-weight the charges. All of this has been proven. Being in a philosophy class doesn't make you smart, nor does it validate you old, disproven thinking.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:36:49 AMInteresting that race is always brought up no matter what skin color it is, and along the way there is someone making racist remarks. However, I think people tend to confuse racist statements with statistics. Sharon did not say anything racist whatsoever, but stating statistics It obviously offended people which lead to the band wagon of name calling.So explain to me how that doesn't make you look like racists as well? (ie:cracker/pig) The more people make it out to be able race, the more racism is going to continue. As a white female, I don't necessarily agree with the statistics. There are just as many white killers, child molesters, pedophiles as there is black.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:43:12 AMAs for the this man taking his own son's life, it makes me sick. I don't care what race, religion or what set you off, there was no reason to humiliate this boy and then kill him. I do agree that IF this boy did touch his half sister inappropriately, then he did right by trying to get help and being honest. I believe this child was a victim himself one way or another. As for punishment, I think he should fry, but if he gets life, he should lose rights to his daughter. For people to stand there and not to take action I am in complete shock. There is no justifying what this man did and he will pay one way or another.
He touched her, we don't know the circumstances though. It could have been quite innocent. I mean they coulda played tag or something. On the other hand he could have been touching her in a creepy way.
Either way, it's quite cold blooded to kill youre son when he's begging for his life after being humiliated.
To Sharon.
There are so many things I'd like to point out, in youre comments, but it's tiresome. Since I'm probably writting to someone blinded "by hate". Therefore I'll keep it short.
You keep mentioning South Africa, doesn't it bother you that the continent with the most resources and it still amoung the poorest. It's not just black people killing each other etc. there's a large political and economical interest in keep up the strife and not having a united Africa. The ones earning on the strife doesn't come from Africa though.
Another point I find, in lack of better words, annoying. You say black people, have a different frontal lobe. Yet there is no evidense that support that, in a matter of fact it's quite the oppasite everything points out it's the same. You say you study philosophy, yet you have groundbreaking new knowledge of neurology. Showing a link between skin pigmentation and the frontal lobe.
In courts I don't think you will find much pity-party for black people.
You want to discuss the statistics. We'll when, and where are they from are they nationwide. Could there be a link between the social layer and crimerate? Black people also tend to face a lot of prejudism, can you believe it? When you hear that too much you start believing in that "shit". Low selfasteem is actually quite a factor when it comes to crimes, especialy of violent nature. Combine the low selfasteem with a bad social layer and it will trigger an alarming crimerate. I know theres black people in important positions, Obama etc. "I won't start talking about the men behind the certains and their skincolor" But when you look at how the low-mid-high class is differentiated amoungst black compared to white it should draw a more clear picture. It should be viewed as income pr. citizen. Since there are more white colored people than black colored people. Again, It's more than meet the eye.
All in all, I hope to have cleared a few things up.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:50:54 AMWow, when a racist comment regarding black people is said, everyone, including myself, is quick to jump on the person to tell them how ignorant they sound. I am white, and I don't care about statistics. But don't jump on all of us and call us all murderers, harmful to animals, etc etc. And you can't just talk all smack about white people and only refer to Sharon, karen and Justin because that is exactly the thing they are doing. They classify all blacks as horrible, etc. They are ignorant. Don't stoop to their level and crash all whites because we are not all the same. Let's not bring this world further into destruction, especially if you have kids. Teach your kids that people like that (I mean white and black people who group all of a race into one and disrespect them all) are ignorant and hurtful. The truth is, they are more hurtful to themselves than anyone else, as they will never be able to cope with the pain that another race is degrading them or embarassing them. Forget about it. Life is too short, as we have learned from this sad story, and we are only taking away the dignity and peace from our children by allowing these debates to take place. Lets nip it in the bud. They only say these things because they are sad, pathetic, and defensive...or offensive, or both. UNITE WITH OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS TODAY. We all matter, no matter our race, color, age or religion.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:57:05 AMOne last comment and thought on Sharon The Pink Skinned Pig. She said that blacks are the MOST racist! Piggy, have you ever heard od the KKK? Have you ever heard about the four little girls blown up in a church by KKK members? Have you ever heard of Medgar Evers, James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, or Martin Luther King whom were all MURDERED by Filthy Nasty Pigs? Have you heard of Jim Crow laws? Have you heard of slavery? Blacks have never perpetrated crimes like these too whites you idiot so don't ever try to suggest that blacks are more racist! Matter of fact blacks aren't racist at all because our hatred is not about the color of skin, nationality, culture, or religion. Our hatred towards SOME whites is because of the CRIMES you've committed! Let me ask you this you hairbrained lunatic; is a Jew that hates Nazis a racist? What about a blond hair blue eye American that hates Muslim terrorist? The answer is NO you simpleton! These people hate because of the crimes perpetrated against them not because of skin color. You Pigs are the ones that hate because of skin color and cultural differences, this is what makes us TOTALLY different than you PIG!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 10:58:53 AMTHIS IS JUST SO SAD I FEEL SO BAD FOR THAT LITTLE BOY AND HAVE MURCEY ON THE PARENTS SOUL
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:05:10 AMFor once, I wish the admin and writers of this website would photo shop a pic to reflect a fricking purple person. Maybe then we could truly focus on the atrocities that are committed! On second thought, it may be interesting to see some of the nasty, racist, remarks about purple folks come out! When I read some of these remarks I get sick! Although I love this site I can't get over the hatred of people because of the color of their skin.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:10:38 AMI don't agree. I have never done any wrong to a black person for the color of their skin. If I didn't like someone who was black, it was for something they did to me. However, there were several black students who didn't like me because I was white and they insisted that I was racist because my boyfriend was white, which is based purely on preference. So please don't attempt to cover up that type of thing by saying other races are not racist. It's racist. If you group an entire race together especially based on something that happened in the past, that is still racism. Jewish people don't all hate Germans. All races are capable of racism. ALL RACES. Let's just get that clear. I am very stern on equality. That means I will give you respect but I deserve it, too. Don't blame me for something I had nothing to do with. I come with peace between the races. It is scary that these anonymous people here say such horribly racist things. I get along well with my co workers and classmates of all races. I hope they aren't one of those anonymous evil hate spewers....
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:12:07 AMHey Blaire I'm one of the ones attacking Sharon and the other racist and I repect what you said. By no means do my comments suggest that I feel that way towards all whites. I know some very kind and friendly white people. Even during slavery there were some very kind, helpful, and friendly white people towards black slaves. Ole John Brown was one. Whenever I comment I always use the word RACIST whites which is to set them apart from non racist whites. I also say use the word SOME when referring to whites to show that by no means do I mean all are racist.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:14:30 AMMalik,
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:15:32 AMDoes it make you feel superior to call white people pigs? Get off it already.
Malik,
Thank you for clarifying. Unfortunately, this world is full of racists. If we can band together, I feel we would be able to improve this place in which we live. However, that seems hardly possible with so many out there who are racist 'undercover' and probably not so racist on the outside, making them wolves in sheep's skin (if that is the proper phrase).
God Bless Jamar, Jr.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:21:38 AMHey Sarah are you slow or something? If you can't see that Sharons comments are prejudiced and probably racist then you must be one just like her! Yes Sharon used stats but the idiot used them to try and say that blacks are naturally criminal because of the frontal lobes. She's nutts! And so are you for defending her. She even tried to say that the problems of blacks has nothing to do with slavery or colonialization in the case of Africa. Once again she's nutts because the destruction of family, self worth, culture, language, self esteem, etc etc through slavery has everything to do with the conditions and behaviour of blacks today. Just like the success of whites has everything to do with the benefits they got from slavery. I think you both need to thoroughly research the effects of slavery on blacks before ya open ya mouths. And to show you that this isn't just a black thing why don't you research the effects of white peoples destruction and segregation of the Native American Indian. I guess their problems are attributed to their frontal lobes too huh? Your both Imbecilic Moronic Idiots that think you know so much but really don't know shit!!!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:44:05 AMI'd give him a job with law enforcement.
He was obviously rightly appalled that his son would do such a thing. And the little girl wasn't even his daughter. It's a shame more men don't take sexual abuse and rape as seriously.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:01:32 PMFirst of all, Sharon, I'm just as white as you. Second of all, I hope you take my comments to your philosophy class. If anyone there has half a brain, they will patiently explain to you (while you sit there glassy eyed and mouth-wide staring into space) that crime is a byproduct of poverty. Blacks were brought over here in shackles. Sure, white idiots like you will say "but not the ones who are living today! They need to get over it!" That's because you're a reactionary, with neither the intellectual honesty to consider how history affects the present, or to think long-term. Sure slavery was a long time ago -- but a recent study by Harvard said the chances of someone being born in the ghetto ever moving into the middle class are less than 5%. That means if someone's great-great granparents were slaves -- well, their great grandparents were just one step beyond -- poor and uneducated and unprepared to compete in the open market. What happens to the chidren of people like that -- the black person in question's grandparents? Well, they end up much the same. So do their kids. And theirs. Sure, every now and then someone breaks the mold -- and in fact, the blacks in America have been steadily rising since the days of slavery -- breaking the mold in millions of different ways every day. Don't forget, it's only been 40 years since Jim Crow...since blacks were openly discriminated against in our so-called free market.
That's why so many black kids grow up in the ghetto. And when you grow up surrounded by drugs, where the only way to rise up to commit crime, you do it. Does this excuse the behavior? No. Of course it doesn't. But does it mean that there is something wrong with black people? No, it doesn't. Not if you have half a functioning brain.
It's idiots like you that perpetuate these stereotypes. This guy is a dangerous, criminal piece of shit, and I hope he gets a strict sentence. But does it say anything about black people? Well, a couple of weeks ago there were the white kids in Florida who set another kid on fire for not paying for a video game. Does that say anything about white people?
Please, go to class. Learn. Open your mind. Someday you'll realize how stupid you sound.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:32:09 PMOk Blaire you said that some guys hated you because your white and your boyfriend is white. But why do they hate you for being white is the question Blaire? The point I'm making is that its not your skin that cause them to hit you. Its the history that comes with your skin color. In other words if your skin color didn't bring the terrible history of racism, violence and slavery with it they wouldn't hate you. Are they right to take that history out on you because your white? No they are not right to do it but I don't call their hatred racism. They're hatred is more like the analogy of a dog the you kick and beat over and over, after awhile he will bite you and maybe hate you. To some blacks your skin color symbolizes slavery, racism, and violence. For these reasons people will develop hate. Racism means that you believe your superior and have the right to dominate and control other races. This is what white racist think when they are hating blacks. Blacks are not thinking that when they whites therefore it isn't racism. Its hatred because of crimes perpetrated against their race and you were simply a collateral damage casuality of the war of hate.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:35:48 PMllas, justin, u are the igger...look up the word, dick. training and learning? u cant be serious...how can u bring race into this? and please dont break bad with me on the internet. cause u wouldnt do it in person...as far as the real issue, the boy should have been commited and the daddy should be jailed and given help while on lock down.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:42:23 PMSHARON, I must say that your stats on the surface are dead on... however I must remind you that in order to make comments on race, we must go back to the beginning and not start from the end. Blacks have been enslaved (as all other races at some point or another) but it most be understood that whites slavery has been systematic and it's roots are found in actions that take place today (all over the world).... Whites have left their mark by way of Guns, Germs, and Steel (it's been documented on PBS) and it is they who have created a state of hate and violence among ALL cultures they've enslaved. I wont get into semantics with you... however, I will say it is whites who lived in caves (Europe) and blacks lived in tropical climate... it is scientific fact that cold weather produces more aggressive behavior. So, when the whites came out their caves and conquered the "civilized world" they left their trademark...VIOLENCE. It is sad that those who have just found power chose to follow the path that whites have created (which whites can now disregard since they've gained control).... kinda like the world becoming Americanized... not necessarily 'cause it's for the better, but simply because it's the thing to do. So as you throw your math (stats) maybe you should look into science as well.... maybe then you'll keep from regurgitating half truths and understand the whole story before talking... kinda makes you look ignorant (which I'm sure you're not).
nonetheless, keep writing, I find it amusing and it's people like you that make some want to learn more.... ignorance must be bliss.
As for the initial story, we all have our opinions and hopefully can share them with a bite of class and taste.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:56:17 PMGaggy, kudos - I commend you. It's nice to read something intelligent as far as responses.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 01:59:19 PMHey Malik, you are no better than Sharon, read your own garbage.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 02:58:44 PMMALIK: When you use phrases like "pink-skinned pig" it takes away from your credibility, and I think you may have a lot of perspective to bring to the discussion, and would like to see what THAT would be rather than race-motivated name-calling. Sharon is ignorant and racist and close-minded, of that there is little doubt, but her skin being "pink" has nothing to do with it, as there are many fair-skinned whites out there who do not share her beliefs, and to ostracize them like that is unfair.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 03:21:00 PMI feel so sorry for the mother! Wait a minute, Black, White, Purple or green wrong is wrong!!! Race is not the issue here!! A child was Murdered by his Father!!!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 03:52:58 PMJustin, please tell me how a white kid would just be learning, while a black kid is in training. Do you think violence and crime is just designated to blacks? I guess the incident that happened at Columbine was just an isolated incidence? No sir, I believe not!!!! Please stop being so ignorant. The very same way you judge someone, that is the way you will be judged. GOD, unlike you, does not see color. He does not hurt over only bad things that happen to His white children, but over bad things that happen to ALL of his children.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 04:03:24 PMSuch a tragedy! I pray for peace for these families.
Blair, you are so correct! How this became a race issue I will never understand. The fact of the matter is evil is everywhere and it has the potential to be in ALL people, not just blacks and not just whites. There will be a day when we have no choice but to unite...and that place is eternity where you will either lift up your eyes in heaven or hell. Race won't matter there!
Posted 11/20/2009 at 04:18:07 PMMalik,
Posted 11/20/2009 at 04:39:34 PMYour comment wasnt posted on there when I wrote that, but just goes to show your true ignorance anyway. Doesn't matter if I had read it or not, you still used choice words. Rasism works both ways.
Malik~If you read my comment before hand, I did say that I didn't agree with everything she had said. As far as you asking if I was slow, and calling white racist "pigs" shows you are just as judgmental . If anything I can see both point of views, that doesn't mean I am racist. I apologize for my comment to you, since your comment wasn't posted at that time. However, I do think people take things out of context and read too much into what people are trying to say. I am just sick of the back & forth bickering and the finger pointing. It's a shame that people are still ignorant.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 05:38:31 PMThis situation is not about the color of skin, this about a man who took his son's life. This defenseless child who pleaded for his life could have sought help if given the chance. As for this man not wanting his son known as a pedophile, is complete denial. I have a feeling this man has a past that no one is aware of right now.
@ Karen ... first thing Monday morning .. I will find your IP address and have you band from making comments. Sad the ignorance you have. Sounds like a very fat unattractive women. Far as Sharon I guess obama is the only educated black huh... this is not a race issue... so don't make it one. When you have many whites raping there own children. Sad there will always be racism .. no matter what the subject is. sharon take you racist remarks as well so some angry black women can hang u and we will discuss you on the board
Posted 11/20/2009 at 09:58:01 PMWould you people listen to yourselves?! Your all pretty much crazy! This had NOTHING to do with race. It had to do with a boy, who by the way might or might not have done anything to the little girl.
Now, call me racist all you want, but I have a few things to get of my chest.
For one, people like sharon and justin, you give all white people a bad name. Why do you insist on commenting if all it is do to is get a rise out of people on something as horrible as this.
For two, malik, you spouting off pretty much everything you say is just as racist as what justin,sharon, and others have said. You said that blairs students dislkied her because of what the color of her skin "repressent?!?!" Are you serious?!?! And you don't think that line of thinking is racists at all?!?! Black, white, pink, purple with yellow polka dots, whatever color you are, that's racist.
The students not liking her because her skin takes them back to slavery? Ok, I'm white. I know it was horrible. As far as I know, and we have done extensive study on our family background, none of my ancestors owned slaves. I am sorry that it happened. Can I change the fact that it happened? Not unless Doc Brown really invented a time machine. I really don't know what else anyone can do to try to make it better or right or whatever. So not to sound mean, racist, or whatever, isn't it time to stop using slavery as the reason why blacks are being held down? Maybe we should just move forward to equality and love for one another as human beings. Now there's a thought.
It seems to me that your just as racist callin white people pigs, whether you mean all white people or just some of us, it doesn't matter. Now, don't mistake what I'm sayin, which I'm sure some of you will and will eventually attack me and call me a racist. I do not agree with what some white people say about black people. I acutally like the black people I know. I have known one woman my whole life and many of my cousins and I think of her as our aunt. To be honest, I thought for the longest time she was my aunt, until an ignorant black man told me she wasn't related to a bunch of crackers like us. Talk about a heart break!
Kinda off base, but can someone please explain to me, in a way that makes sense, why it is ok for black people to call other black people the n word? Or why is it ok with some black people that some white people call them that? My husband, who is white for those of you who think only black people who are raised in ghettos, was raised in ghettos in california and tulsa and has many black friends. The first time I met some of them both my husband and his friends (who were black for those of you who have lost track) walked up to each other did the handshake/hug thing and said "what's up my n@*!#." Now me, being raised to never say that word, I was quite shocked! His friends didn't seem to mind it at all that he called them the n word!
Like I said, off the subject, but I'm confussed, a little puzzled, even why its ok sometimes. Call me ignorant, or even racist, but to me the n word can mean lots of things about lots of races. The words that come to mind are ignorant, worthless, losers. To me, in my personal opinion and line of thinking, justin is actually the n word too.
But back on the subject, this poor boy lost his life in a very senseless way. Race should have nothing to do with it, but unfortunately, morons have popped out of the wood work and made it about just that instead of what it should be about. Another baby losing his life way to early.
Also, and I'm sure I will get attacked because I have been verbally attacked once before as have many other people (black and white, which makes me wonder how a black person could be racist against another black person) president obama is not black. He is half white and half black.
Now, let the attacks begin...........
Posted 11/20/2009 at 11:29:50 PMOh, no, sick of the bickering! Don't ask them any more questions! They'll just KEEP TALKING!
Like "racism is the issue here" who appears to be decrying that form of bigotry while denigrating someone's words on the basis of the speaker being "probably fat". Good going!
Fat maybe the issue here. The dad may have hated his chrubic son for being fat. What an animal, that guy.
The real ignorance in the thread, at least the ignorance of actual relevance is in claiming that the dad probably eliminated a future child molestor.
Just today I read an interview with a former sex-crimes prosecutor named Robin Sax, who quoted an FBI statists indicating that the majority of offnders against children under age 6 are... juveniles UNDER 18. Do you know what this might mean? That as juveniles age into non-juveniles and older, their offenses against small children start to drop off slowly, which means that an offender like Pinkney Jr, probably DOES change out of thsi behavior. Of playing doctor or not managing his own new hormones well. As his experience grows and his maturity and interpersonal morality matures too.
How nice it would be for there to be a safe,accepting place for abusers and predators and wifebeaters and chilbeaters to go to GET HELP because They wanted to learn how to strggle wuth their bodies, with their urges, or the pressure thatget them angry and not end up doing stuff that hurts others or themself...
If theis boy were truly at risk, he deserved a better solution than a bullet in the brain from his beast of s sperm-donor.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 12:48:11 AMI should have added to the statement about my husband. My husband is half white, half mexican. Just a little tidbit before you start called me racist.
Qwerty,
Sorry! I know there will probably be more rants and senseless tirades. Heck, I'm sure mine will be considered one!
By the way, love your comments about the person would called one commentor "fat", that's showing them!
I also happen to believe that not every molester will never stop. There are some that can and do stop. We just never hear about them because, well let's face it, they don't make good news. I also believe that there should be some place that these types of people can go to get the treatment they so desperately need.
Remember people, the majority of the people who molest others, were also molested themselves. They may be perps now, but they too were once victims.
Once again, let the attacks begin............
Posted 11/21/2009 at 01:40:18 AMWhy is race brought into this? We should be discussing the crime and the individual people who are involved, not dragging in ethnicities. There's a story of a white girl who strangled and slit a 9 year old's throat, which is easily the worst crime being highlighted on this site right now; I don't see anyone trying to drag down the whole Caucasian race for what she did. Instead people are discussing HER.
Back on topic: I can understand the father's anger, but why STRIP HIM NAKED then kill him? Such a shame he had to go through the situation of his own son touching his daughter. This is so sad.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 02:48:48 AMFirst of all God Bless all the children that had and are suffering at the hands of abusers.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 05:21:36 AMSHARON, you are trying so hard to sound intellagent. We know that there are more black men in the legal system than white men.Studies show lack of education, along with other reasons, no fathers in the home, drugs, other reasons. I am white and all the reasons above, with the excepition of that my father lived in the home. ( I was raped by him ) have the most impact on the black population. I don't buy the frontal lobe crap. You sound like a very uneducated person,some where around the 8th grade. Our president is a great example of an intellegant man. If you want to talk about stubid and FRONTAL LOBE lets discuss Bush or Rush.
THIS IS SO SAD TO READ THESE RACES COMMENTS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE AND THE STORY IS ABOUT A KID. STICK TO THE TOPIC AND KEEPS YOUR VIEWS ABOUT PEOPLE TO YOUR SELF. FOR SHARON I HOPE YOU LEARN THE HARD WAY WHAT LIFE IS. YOU NEED MORE EDUCATION BECUASE YOUR STILL DUMB. MATTER OF FACT WHAT SCHOOL TO YOU GO TO SO I CAN COME TO CLASS WITH YOU TO HERE YOUR NOSENSE. LETS BE REAL ABOUT IT BUT WE KNOW YOU WON'T TELL ME PEOPLE LOVE TO TALK WITH OUT BEING SEEN ON THE INTERNET THEY HAVE NO BALLS!!!!! AND FOR THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE WITH THE NASTY COMMENTS WHEN YOU POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE YOU HAVE THREE POINTING BACK AT YOU PEICE OF TRASH. SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE THE TRASH OUT. GET AT SHARON BIG NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POST BACK I'LL KEEP CHECKING FOR YOU TO GIVE ME THE INFO SMART ASS!!!!!!!
Posted 11/21/2009 at 05:33:40 AMThis is so tragic.
Gaggy, kudos to you. Thank you for posting that for the ignorant people.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 08:22:47 AMOnce again white people think they never do anything wrong. Black people why argue with them? Always remember they (meaning white people) think their crimes are different. Ex: when they steal from a company it's called embezzling but when other races steal it's called stealing. Please let white people have a planet to themselves so they can shut the F*#@ up. This little boy was accused of a horrible crime by his family member in which non us really know if it was true or not and all of sudden race played a part. NOW REMEMBER WHITE PEOPL ALWAYS MAKES THE COMMENT WE BRING UP RACE ALOT. GO BACK AND READ ALL THE COMMENTS AND SEE WHO BROUGHT IT UP FIRST.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 08:53:03 AMIf it was me I would have burn him alive and let him suffer.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 10:09:07 AMI am a father of a one year old baby girl. I have never been a violent man. But when it comes to my baby girl I am prepared to
kill and/or die for her!!!!
AS I SIT HERE AND READ ALL THESE THINGS PEOPLE WROTE IT IS HATEFUL VERY HATEFUL. THIS WAS A CHILD WHOS FATHER SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD OUT OF RAGE. IT DONT MATTER IF THE CHILD WAS BLACK OR WHITE HE COULD HAVE BEEN RED WHO REALLY CARES WHAT COLOR. THIS WAS A CHILD. I JUST CANT PLACE WHY PEOPLE ARE ON THIS FACT BECAUSE THE CHILD WAS BLACK. THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY BUT WE DONT GET TO READ THAT. IM A MOTHER OF 4 AND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FACTS BEFORE I STATED IT TO ANYONE. I WOULD GO BLOOD FOR BLOOD FOR MY CHILDREN BUT FACTS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THIS THINGS WITH BLACK AND WHITE WAS OVER MANY YEARS BEFORE I WAS ALIVE AND IT WONT EVER END BUT THAT THIS DONT MEAN TO BASH A CHILD BECAUSE OF HIS COLOR. FACTS ARE IMPORTANT AND THAT WHAT PPL SHOULD LOOK AT
Posted 11/21/2009 at 10:57:04 AMI would not wish such end resilt on a kid like that bur if he had grown up like this well needless to say he would be a serial molester rapist and who knows?Plus the broken home thing helps make one even more like this.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 02:26:13 PMHere are some REAL stats:
Posted 11/21/2009 at 07:02:23 PM* Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race.
* White inmates were nearly three times more likely to have victimized a child than black inmates.
* About one in every seven Hispanic convicts had been convicted for a crime against a child.
* Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.
* Child molesters and offenders were more likely to have grown up in a two parent home and were more likely to have been molested as a child.
Okay, Sharon,
Posted 11/21/2009 at 08:35:08 PMAgain here is a person that put out real numbers, what do you have to say now SHARON? Black, White, Brown, any race. If you hurt or kill another person like this BEAST did his punishment should fit the crime.
AS TO THE GRADE LEVEL OF THE PEOPLE COMMENTING ON BLACKS, WHAT IS IT,6 TH, 7 TH GRADE? GO TO SCHOOL!
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE MINDS OF PEOPLE THESE DAYS...A CHILD WAS LOST,A MOTHER IS CHILDLESS TONIGHT AND CAN NEVER GET HM BACK...WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION SHARON AND THESE OTHERS WHO ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT BLACK CRIME RATE...GET OVER IT PEOPLE THERE ARE BAD BLACKS AND BAD WHITES AND BAD HISPANICS AND BAD JAPANESE AND THE LIST GOES ON...IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD IN ALL RACES...SERIAL KILLERS ARE NORMALLY WHITE MEN EXCEPT FOR THE D.C. SNIPER AND THAT WAS THE FIRST BLACK SERIAL KILLER EVER..SO DOES THAT MAKE IT ANY BETTER NO!!! THIS CHILD IS DEAD AND GOD HELP ANYONE WHO FEELS NO COMPASSION FOR THIS WHOLE FAMILY BLACK OR WHITE!!!WHO CARES ITS PEOPLE(HUMAN BEINGS)
Posted 11/21/2009 at 08:55:12 PMthis is so sad and to bring color into this matter is even sadder. my heart goes out to this family. and shame on the people who judge on color. you are just as sick as the father. step back and realize that this is person
Posted 11/21/2009 at 10:42:42 PMfirst thing first the young man came and confessed to his mom that he had done something wrong he confessed his sins before he died now the mother should of took controled of the sistuation and gotten the young man some help instead of sending death at him .she knew how her ex would react she is just as much to blame as her ex is.
Posted 11/21/2009 at 11:12:02 PMThe thing I wonder is how can this father kill this poor child and not even ask any questions first to actually see what happened. He killed him as if this was a stranger and let alone THIS IS HIS OWN SON!!! comon... No one knows the truth behind this, the kid knew it was wrong thats why he told his mother. I hope this father burns in hell!!. AS FOR YOU BIGKEN... read the story moron its his own son and daughter... who would you kill??? let me guess save your lil girl? ha so you can have a piece of her.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 01:41:44 AMWow! This is certainly proof that the end of days are nearer and nearer. The devil has just creep into every household it seeems and in everyone's heart. Is there nothing that people will not do????
Posted 11/22/2009 at 01:59:51 AMDATS REALLY MESSED UP.THATS "DAD" HAD SUM SERIOUS ISSUES.ALL THEY COULD OF SUN WAS ASKE IF HE DID IT N GOT HIM HELP.I KNO THAT MOM FEELS SORRY 4 TELLIN HER X NOW.I FEEL SORRY 4 HER..MY HEART GOES OUT 2 HER..N THE LIL SIS THAT WONT HAVE A BIG BRO 2 GROW UP WITH.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 02:56:20 AMThis is so heart breaking, A dad killing his son who just made a mistake. This boy looks so innocent in his picture. I agree that maybe there is some kind of abuse that runs deeper than this story. I feel for this kid's mother and sister. This kid didn't deserve this.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 01:20:26 PMThe son admitted to wrong doing, which was said to have happened a few months ago. Since his "Dad" did this, now everyone knows. He could have sought counseling or various other resources to get this child the help he needed. Reasoning for his behavior may have came to light as he might of been victimize as well. One will never know now.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 03:15:00 PMThis is not about race or statics. It's about a boy who's life was taken in the hands of his own father. This was premeditated murder, he knew exactly what he planned on doing, especially he brought a gun. Any guy can be a "dad," but it takes a REAL MAN to be a Father, and Jamar Sr, is not that by any means. Did this man have a permit to carry or own a gun??? As much as I would like to see Jamar Sr stripped naked, down on his knees pleading for his life in front of his loved ones, I know that it wouldn't do any good. I would like all his rights from his daughter taken away and CPS take her away. It's obviously that she must not be getting the care she truly needs. Good luck to him in prison.......since that is where he belongs for the rest of his life.
All this hating, placing blame and pointing fingers has GOT to stop!
Pretty stupid father. He didn't even get to hear the son's side of the argument, but just blows him away.
Now, the dad is going to lose this own life, and being with his wife and daughter. What a nut job. I can see someone being angered, but you don't shoot the kid.
This father must have been a crazy person just waiting to go off.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 07:55:39 PMThis is a case in which everyone loses. The fact that a child had to watch as his own parent took his life, is a tragedy in itself. The mom acted as any mother would and should have. And the poor little baby sister who will one day learn of the reason she lost her brother. WOW.She is a baby, and any parent with children knows that sometimes babies say things that arent all the way true. And even if it were true, you get both kids help. Not take them out strip them naked and kill them. I pray for all parties involved. I do understand that Dad was angry but come on now. My Father in Heaven please help your children for we are lost confused and on a path of pure destruction. My heart goes out to the family.Please find the light on this dark path. Look to God. So many tears.
Posted 11/22/2009 at 08:05:47 PMSpeaking as a woman that has been molested by a family member and it was covered up by family, it led to nearly every female in our family being molested. I'm black and I apologize if I offend anyone but my personal opinion is I care about the three year old that has to live with something so horrific done to her. If my son whom I raised to be better than that who I've vividly informed about this type of thing was to do this to anyone, I love him with all my heart but I would not care what happens to him more than what the child has been through.
Posted 11/24/2009 at 03:34:34 AMSharon said:
Yes, the guys who killed at Columbine were white. They are not in the statistics I cited. 50% of the violent crimes in this country are committed by blacks, who are a mere 12% of the population. The guys at Columbine are not included in that statistic, because they were white. There's nothing you can say to undo the statistics on black crime. They're just numbers, but they speak volumes about blacks. Don't forget about South Africa, you can't blame their violent crime stats on the guys at Columbine. Yes, white men also kill people, but not at the rate black men do. It's also a fact that white men don't rape 100 black woman on average everyday. But the converse is true about black men. Suck it up.
Posted 11/20/2009 at 12:37:28 AM
****MY RESPONSE TO THIS IS;******
aaaah, people make the world a bad place Sharon....PEOPLE!
it matters not if a black person kills 1 person for 30 days of a month, and white person kills 30 people only ONCE a month, the point is that "WE" are our own worst enemies, and no crime really is more uglier than the other.
When you can catch THAT, then color, sex, country, religion, and percentages FALL AWAY.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 03:45:55 PMNo one knows what the truth is behind this story. So many people want to be so gun-ho about the situation instead of what really lies behind it all. It's so easy for people to say off the wall crap when it's not your kid. I blame parents, and the truth is, some people just don't deserve to have children.
Posted 11/25/2009 at 08:51:57 PMCMM, great point you made. It had never crossed my mind, but indeed a valid question to ponder. "What if the dad wanted to cover up possible abuse that his son had endured earlier in life by him."
Posted 11/25/2009 at 09:24:50 PMVery sad.
I am a cop in the ATL. Folks be real you are reading what the media has posted. You are assuming a lot. The only facts right now are that this young boy is dead. His Dad murdered him with a gun. It appears to be premeditated. The state of mind of the Dad at the time of murder impacted his actions no doubt. However his choice to kill his son, in his mind was the right one.
Bottom line..Stop throwing the race card, it doesn't matter! This is not a black thing or a white thing. I am white and based on facts and my experience, white people kill and molest within their familes far more than black. A young human life was ended in a a very violent manner. You all please stop assuming. No one except the accused and the victim knows what really happened. The young boy could have said nothing or done nothing to this toddler. Mom could of made up the whole story to get get former husband over to the house, especially during the holiday and it all backfired. Maybe it really happended the way it did and Dad is menatlly ill, maybe he was high.Maybe Mom shot him. Stop assuming and stop beleiving what you hear or read from the news or media. Let the law enforcemnent folks investigate and report. I bet we all will be shocked when we eventually know the truth. Stranger and unbelievable things have happended folks, believe me.
May this young man rest in peace.
Oh, before anyone ignorant folks attack my post, please believe me that I am for the death Penalty and despise beyond the norm of any person that preys upon the young, old or weak.
Semper Fidelis
GunnyH
Posted 11/28/2009 at 08:41:06 AMIf you label this boy a child molestor than MOST OF YOU ARE as well.. you hypocrits.. how many of you "played doctor" looking and some innocent touching as a child with another sibling or relative? this was no aggressive sexual abuse or rape... The kid made an innapprpriate touch to his sister and needed at most a good strict talking to by the dad .. not DEATH..
Posted 11/28/2009 at 06:54:31 PMIf you guys had a dad like this kid most of you wouild be dead by now..
and btw karen youre a pink pastey waste of devil flesh,peckerbicth
UPDATE!!!!!!!!
Since the execution of this poor child, doctors have NOT found any sign of abuse on the young girl, after a very thorough medical investigation. It is believed that nothing happened to her, and that Jamar Jr. was killed for no reason.
Its suspected that the dad was increasingly disgruntled over his loss of authority over the child because of the divorce from his ex and resented it and sought to cut all ties with the ex ..
Posted 11/28/2009 at 08:32:01 PMSo before you fuktards cast aspersions on the victim and CHILD slaughted in such a vile manner.. check the facts and your own issues..
Sharon - you rock. you speak the truth and the idiots on here can't handle it. the stats speak for themselves.
Posted 12/02/2009 at 01:10:40 AMHoly cow some of these comments r so ignorant. From both sides. Does anyone realize that black and white r practically obsolete and that pure race is almost extinct except for inbreds? Get over it already. Turn to the person next to u and give him/her a hug, geez.
Posted 12/02/2009 at 11:19:10 AMAs for this poor child and his family, the mother was right, this is not something u sweep under the rug. And for the people who said that the father was predisposed to violence and it was as much the mothers fault for calling him, how do u know?? Did u know the man personally?? Because he didn't have a criminal background, this was the 1st time he'd ever been arrested and he even worked as a mail carrier for the post office, which brings up a very good arguement about him "going postal". How was she supposed to know he would react like that? My thought is I would have stood in front of my son before I let anybody put a bullet in him. Shoot me, I'd die before I let u hurt my son regardless of what he did. He humped his baby sister, the man might as well have shot the family dog. The fact that the boy felt remorseful enough to confess before he was even accused says something. This was not a pedophile. He was a curious kid. And he knew what he did was wrong and he was remorseful. How, after ur son confesses, u see the remorse, the sorrow, the guilt on his face, how after pistol whipping him and hearing his cries of pain and his pleas for mercy, how after stripping ur child down, dragging him into a field, having him kneel, look into his eyes and hearing ur child say "No, Daddy, no." How does a man just pull the trigger?? There was no love for that child in that mans heart. I hope he gets put down like the animal he is.
I'm sorry for the comments i made earlier. Statistics go both ways and they can be used to support or dispute any argument or statement. I was wrong... Dima and the other that agreed with my atrocious thoughts should be ashamed of themselves as am I.
Posted 12/02/2009 at 01:51:12 PMIm so hurt by this story and my heart goes out to the mother. She did what she thought was the right thing to do. If she had know he would have killed her son there is no way she would have told him. And for JUSTIN! Just so you know child molestation is done mostly by whites. You rarely hear about someone black molesting someone.I work in law enforcement and i see it everyday. Doesnt matter what race you are its still wrong! His dad need to be put to sleep as well as all of the other rapist and child molesters in the world. And JUSTIN if you disagree i think i speak for all of us when i say you can lie down beside them and take a dirt nap.
Posted 12/24/2009 at 10:00:46 AMThis was my God-Brother. I miss him dearly and I love him so much. He indeed did nothing to his little sister. All of this happened in front of his mom and auntie. His auntie tried to help but it made the situation worse. We are from Highland Park,Michigan. That is where this took place. This boy was not a bad boy. When I heard this story my mouth just dropped. I cried. He was an A-B student. Everybody knew and loved him. He was very popular.R.I.P Jamar. I love you Big Dawg!!
Posted 02/07/2010 at 05:39:20 PM