A bumbling revenge plot turns sour
| Jose Montano is among those charged with kicking, robbing and gang raping the girl |
Rodriguez says he was skateboarding at suburban Richmond High School when he saw a crowd gathering in a sparely lit area of the campus. He went over to see what was happening. That's when he saw the brutal attack. "They were kicking her in her head and they were beating her up, robbing her and ripping her clothes off; it's something you can't get out your mind," he told KGO-TV...
| Elvis Torrentes: Police say more than a dozen witnesses took cell phone pictures and cheered the rapists on |
Rodriquez is a former roommate of Manuel Ortega, 19, one of the six boys charged so far. He says he tried to halt the attack and keep people from taking cell phone pictures. "I just see like everybody going crazy and messing with her and I was like, 'Hey man, calm down, leave her alone, that's a little girl,' you don't do nothing like that,' cuz I got two 15-year-old sisters myself," Rodriquez says.
A one point, he gave the girl his shirt and tried to protect her, he claims. "She was by herself, she was naked and I tried to help her and I reached for her and she started screaming and I said, 'Hey, I don't want to hurt you, I just want to help, that's all I want to do is just help you,'" Rodriguez said. "So she stopped screaming, it's as if she knew, you know, I wasn't trying to do nothing and then I grabbed my t-shirt and covered her up with it."
KGO found another witness, a 16-year-old who said he was summoned by others to the rape. "She was pretty quiet," he says of the victim. "I thought she was like dead for a minute but
then I saw her moving around."
The boy says he didn't call police because he didn't have a phone. He was also scared of the repercussions. "I feel like I could have done something but I don't feel like I have any responsibility for anything that happened... I really wanted to help her but I don't know, I just didn't."
| Manuel Ortega: The girl was punched and raped with a foreign object. |
Rodriguez says much the same thing: "People say, 'Why didn't I call the cops,' but at
the same time, I live in Richmond, a neighborhood like this, snitching
is something you don't do, you know, I mean I have to walk down the
streets now in fear of my life."
But if you read between the lines, it doesn't seem like police are completely buying his story. They say he may be arrested again if DNA from the victim matches his. And if he truly helped the girl at some point, why did the gang rape last more than two hours before someone notified the cops?
Due to a quirk in California law, none of the witnesses can be charged with not reporting the crime because the girl was over age 14. But the six boys charged so far are eligible for life if convicted. They are Cody Smith, 15; Ari Morales, 16; Marcelles Peter, 17; Manuel Ortega, 19, Jose Montano, 18, and Elvis Torrentes, 21.Also see our previous story: A Dozen Watch as a Girl is Gang Raped Outside a Richmond High School Homecoming Dance, where the discussion now includes nearly 100 comments from readers.







How many of these creeps watching took pics on their cell phones? Have they been arrested for possession of child pornography or dissemination of child pornography. This is at least a good carrot to use if the DA needs their testimony against the other perps. Does CA have an Inciting law? That's what the crowd was doing. It was not just watching or they would not have attracted more attention.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 08:05:53 PMI think the people that knew something was going on but did not help this child are cowards. People that help others being victimized are brave heroic individuals, not snitches.
Some time ago, laws were put into place that prevented parents from spanking their children. They now say that spanking is considered child abuse. Personally, I was spanked up until I was 16 years old. I can tell you that when I got spanked for something, I didn't do it again. Now that parents are banned from spanking their kids, their kids are running amok. This is what happens to our youth when they are allowed to do what they please without the fear of discipline. It's been getting worse every year since Columbine. And it is going to continue to get worse until parents are once again given the right to spank their kids when it is needed. I doubt that any of these offenders had their butts beat when they messed up as kids! And perhaps if Dylan and Eric would have been spanked once in a while, Columbine may never have happened. If my daughter screws up, she will be spanked in my house and if I go to jail as a result, so what? It is my child and it is my choice how I decide to discipline her. She is a good kid and continues to be a good kid because she knows what will happen if she isn't! I am angry at these rapists but I am even more angry at the lazy parents who let them run wild without penalty! Get a clue and beat their asses!
Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:27:46 PMYou know why physical punishment is looked down upon in this day and age, Rob? Because people finally started realizing that children are like sponges. They soak up everything from their immediate environment. If you make a habit of smacking your kid around when they've misbehaved, they'll sometimes assume that it's okay to physically assault someone else as a form of behavior modification (your case is an obvious example). Physical punishment is sadistic: it allows the punisher to take their own frustration out on the victim. Sugarcoat it all you want; that's the truth of the matter. You're not spanking your kid as a form of punishment, you're spanking your kid as a form of misplaced anger management.
Hey, I was punished corporally when I was a kid too. It didn't enforce any kind of positive thought in me. In fact, it made me think that it was okay to treat others in the same manner. I didn't bother to think differently until I was out of high school. So instead of beating your daughter, why don't you try talking to her instead? If you can't find more effective ways to punish your child than assault, you're a lazy parent. It's as simple as that.
Remember that child labor was still utilized in this country up until about 40 years ago. Rob's little tirade is proof that we've still got a long way to go before we can form a truly enlightened society.
Posted 11/11/2009 at 11:06:18 PMWhat a load, THEY LIE mexicans LIE. Look at this whole bunch and think if we would have said no or stopped the so called parents from entering the usa (who wants to bet parents are mostly illegal and or have done time). They are taking pride in going to jail. again white man pays. What will it take for white people to say this must stop we are letting 1000s of further robbers killers rapist come into the usa every day. They are at very best simple minded illiterate dregs. And at worst well we have all seen them at there worst every day we get to see more and more of how this "only here for a better life" race really acts.
Did this so call stand up guy give names and description? why would he be afraid to walk the streets is he also saying his people are lawless savages? DEPORT THE ALL THE RAPISTS FAMILY!
Posted 11/11/2009 at 11:41:26 PMI think all of the people who watched this brutal senseless crime should be punished right along with the people who actually physically did it. What kind of heartless cowards stand by and watch someone get brutalized and do nothing?I hope they all get what is coming to them..
Posted 11/12/2009 at 06:54:08 AMWhen I was a kid there were consequences for bad behavior. At a young age we learned that if we misbehaved or disrespected others or property, we would get SPANKED. (NOT BEATEN, like some abusive parents do now) My parents didn't spank when angry, because the anticipation, of what might be coming, was as much a deterrent, to future repeat behavior, as the eventual spanking. This gave them time, to not spank out of anger, and possibly cross the line.
Posted 11/12/2009 at 09:59:01 AMParents, Grandparents, Teachers, basically anyone that had authority over a child at the time, was given permission by the parents to spank, because parents wanted their children to grow up to live respectful & lawful lives in society. (If the spanker abused their authority, they were publicly rebuked)
It worked when spanking was applied. What a lot of people that disagree with spanking endured were beatings. If beatings are applied or spanking is used, for ANY little infraction, then they have an opposite effect.
Jacob L , you were probably spanked or beaten injudiciously, and that is why you took it out on others.
It doesn't hurt much to be spanked and the sting doesn't last long... just long enough to make you think twice before you reoffend. It's the hot stove theory. If you touch a hot stove, it burns. If you get burnt once you don't want to repeat that behavior because you know you will get burnt again and it hurts. Psychologically, you want to reach out and touch it again but you want to avoid being hurt more than your urge to reach out.
If a parent talks to a child and says no-no honey, you can't do that, the child interprets that as a game to do exactly what they were told not to. This follows into the teen years, when a youth naturally pulls away from a parents authority and asserts independence. If you have not established boundaries and discipline by this point, good luck, your child is lost to you, and their peers are in control.
Parents and extended families use to support one another; the community also helped raise the children. If a family was needy, those that had would help out. It takes a whole community to raise good citizens. People can't be afraid to speak up. If a child is doing something wrong, anyone should be able to tell them, that is not acceptable. The parent should not threaten or berate that adult. They should admonish their child for behavior that is unacceptable in society. Laws also must be just, fair, and enforced. Wrong doers must be held accountable, even if they are young. Kids now live with self-indulgent, over-worked, sometimes single parent or deviant family members. Laws now actually prevent teachers and extended family members from taking charge when the parents refuse or are neglectful.
Is it any wonder this is where our society has ended up.
Spanking is not a problem! Peers becoming a stronger influence than family member authority is. (By the way, peers have authority, because they will beat you down both physically and psychologically...)
YOU ARE A BIG FAT COUVERED.......LIAR...YOU WATCH AND TOOK PART LIKE EVERYONE ELSE....YOU MIGHT GET BY......WATCH...YOUR FUTURE YOU WILL NEVER GET AWAY,,,WHAT YOU DID TO THIS GIRL...I KNOW THE STREETS AND LIFE WAY TOO MUCH IN THE CUTS....TO BELIVE YOUR BOWLCRAP.......YOU JUST WANT TO BE ON T.V......L I A R......ALL LIARS HAVE A HELL CREATED AND IT IS WAITING FOR YOU A L L...WHO STOOD BY AND WATCH THIS....ALL YOU ALL HAD CELL-PHONES COULD HAVE CALLED 911,,,,DID YOU DO IT NO..........GO BACK WHERE YOU COME FROM AND YOU STILL GOT IT COMING...NO HEART...NO PASSION...IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR MOM, SISTER GRAND MOTHER BE TREATED........LIARS....
Posted 11/12/2009 at 11:29:43 AM