People in this world has the most DISGUSTING fetish there is. This guy needs to be butt raped by a horse. Wait, he might like it! UGH ... my tummy just turned .... NASTY ASS!

A horse is a horse of course of course, and no one can talk to a horse of course, that is of course unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed!

this guy is one sick cookie i thought i herd it all last year a guy in wisconsin was arrested for for screwing a dead dear carcas on the side of a highway in broad daylight. at least the dear was dead but man a live stallion what do tey call this guy (HORSE FUCKER)

This piece of sheiste need to have a horse's &*&^%^** shoved up his bum!!!!!!

Hey, people! Seth just says these ignorant things to get a rise out of you. He has nothing better to do than sit at his pc all day and get people riled up. By continuing to reply to his comments, you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. These are not his true views. He does this to get the negative attention that he so obviously craves. Ignore his comments and he'll get tired of being ignored and move on to another site with stupid idiots who will not immediately see right through him. I just bet he's an EXPERT at prank phone calls! And giving wedgies. And all of the things any group of 10 to 12 year old boys would be interested in.

"Those who can do!"

There was just some breaking news released.
Seth and Justin-inner were identified as the two ring- leaders of this case. This case has been broken wide open these activities has been going on all over the nation.

wait a minute...

"Police say he had sex at least a dozen times with various fillies. "

once wasnt enough proof???...

boomer63

It's DEER not DEAR.

Not to beat a dead horse, but does it even hurt a 1,500 lb animal if a 120 lb teenager rapes it? Is it even anatomically possibly to endanger an racing horse in such a fashion? Don't get me wrong -- I'm sure the horse was pissed; but all in all, I'd rather him pick a horse than a toddler which is sadly more often what you read about, and much less amusing.

Gives new meaning to the term "a horse's ass".

Uh, how about:

"Cocksure"?

when did having sex with horses become wrong?

He looks like that Jacob kid in Twilight
I am switching to team Edward

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww! This soo makes me waaana puke!

I agree with Evan Carroll. The horses probably felt like someone was checking their temperature with a rectal thermometer... maybe not even that, since usually thermometers are cold... :-)

If raping horses is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Nice one Jim, I loved that show.

clearly you people have never seen scat porn.

Not that I am for raping of any kind, even the horse kind, but how is having sex with a horse worse than Michael Vick's dog shenanigans?

Personally I would much rather be raped than be strung up and beaten or have my teeth ripped out. I guess that's just me. Besides, rape is just surprise sex.

That's some fine police work, Lou.

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Ok in no way would this hurt a horse at all, The horse probably wouldn't notice it. It is weird, but it doesn't do any harm to the horse. Female Horses have Massive Vagina's, Think about how big a Stallions cock is... I doubt this guy even compares.

I am laughing at all the STUPID PRUDES in these comments. What's the wrong in doing what you love? He didn't harm anyone.

Let the kid have his fun, God knows how you get your rocks off... (please don't tell me either)

The horse was probably asking for it... being all muscular and studly like that. Some people have to pay for this sort of thing and the horse gets its glue churned for free!

Besides, do you really think they mean "whisper" in the term "horse whisperer"? Horses only respond to one thing... and it ain't whispering.

ROFL @ Paul and Sean

Horses make good lovers!

I can actually step in the shoes of the young man. I know first hand what that is is like to be intimate with equines. Zoophilia isn't as rare as you folks may care to believe. After all, I am sure there is someone here reading this post that has played the ole peanut butter trick before... As of last count beastforum.com had 68,6845 registered active members, just saying.

Do you really think he's mentally all there? I say NAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

Wholly cow (or horse). This is one sick puppy.

FURRY PRIDE WORLD WIDE!

I have to agree that the horse probably didn't notice, but I know michael vicks dogs noticed. I don't see how in any way it compares... beastiality have been accepted and practiced for thousands of years, humans have always had facinations with crossbreeds... where do you think the idea of harpies, mermaids, and centaurs came from? Seriously. Unless he was making it scream in pain, BFD. Get over it.

The quote "This guy makes Michael Vick look like a charter member of PETA," couldnt be more wrong.

Sure what he did was sick, but whether you want to believe it or not, lots of people do it. He caused no harm to the horses at all.

Michael vick on the otherhand, willingly caused not only harm and death to MANY dogs, but intense suffering to others. Let us not forget he hammered out the teeth of some live dogs, in addition to whipping and hanging others.

This piece of sheiste need to have a horse's &*&^%^** shoved up his bum!!!!!!!

His father and mudder must be really proud.

odd how my first 4 clicks of the day lead me to equine love. oh well. next stop, fisting!

Ezekiel 23:19-20
(19)Yet she increased her whorings, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt (20)and lusted after her paramours there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose emission was like that of stallions.

So, we shouldn't have laws against bestiality as long as it's an animal big enough to not be bothered by a human penetrating it? Forget that it's an abomination, spreads disease and is a sign of civilization devolving to the level of monkeys, as long as you hillbillies are able to get your nut off. Yeehaw.

Oh, so now we need a law for everything we find unclean or spreads disease? So, public bathrooms, beaches, sewers, unprotected sex, slaughter houses... we are going to outlaw those too now, right? Not saying he doesn't need help, but he did not HARM the animal. Isn't what those laws are for? So people would not cause HARM to animals?

J,
I have to say I could not agree with you more on this one. Your right there are laws against bestiality and horses are included. Yes horses do feel the pain when they are getting their temperature taken. It is taken in the rectum. Those horses are someones pets, if this f..k came near my horse, I shot him.

It's just gross. No one needs to uphold something disgusting just because it supposedly doesn't traumatize the animal. I can only imagine that people who are taking this so lightheartedly are either just trying to shock people for the fun of it, or are some backwoods rednecks themselves who empathize with it because it is more common that we would like to imagine. I've even encountered a few individuals in my own life who I suspected had very creepy secrets about their pets and it nauseated me. Beyond that, how could you even want to swap body fluids with a germy, stinky animal? You'd have to be way off psychologically to hold an erection doing that rather than having an immediate gag reflex to it.

Pixie, what the heck are you trying to say? We shouldn't prosecute this unless we can prove the animal was hurt? You actually seem to believe this, that amazes me.

"Oh, so now we need a law for everything we find unclean or spreads disease?"

No, we need laws against having sex with any being that can't legitimately give consent. I've seen a horrifying interview with zoophiles on youtube and read some of their statements, and they actually believe they know the signs that the animal is giving consent, which is ridiculous. Even if they were a zoologist, that is total nonsense, and illegitimate. The poor animal doesn't know any better. Even if they don't have any reason to resist the physical contact, it doesn't make it OK for human beings who should have a conscience to take advantage of them. Aside from just being purely disgusting and depraved behavior.

Here are a few a decent analogies, Pixie...

1. Necrophilia
2. Comotose patients
3. Fondling an infant
4. Retarded adults

Can you defend any of these as willing sexual partners? It could be argued that none of them are inflicting "pain," per se, but they are all appalling to me. How about you?

Also, the laws against bestiality and animal cruelty are presumably very different. No one said Michael Vick shouldn't have gotten the book thrown at him. He got off way too easy, in my opinion.

j
I certainly would not want to offended you by miss spelling anything. NOT SHOT, SHOOT. Please forgive me. I know if I make that mistake again, you will point it out for me. I wish I smart like you. "Jeepers!"

But Miss Spelling is fun! I'm Miss Spelling and I love miss spell werds. I also like omit wurds let infer I mene from context. But then it hurts my fealings when some won point it out to and get defensive. I mene it rilly DOSE!

OK, I'm not saying it's right, but if you've never experienced the sensation of a horse's vag, don't judge. you know what they say...don't knock it unless you do it? I'm just sayin.

People have died from a horse having sex with THEM. Don't know of any horse who died from a person having sex with them.

I'm not advocating such behavior by man or beast. It would seem to be indicative of some sort of deep-rooted emotional problem requiring therapy not punishment.

I really don't get why anyone thinks it has anything to do with whether the horse was hurt. It's like you're making excuses for the behavior, letting him "off the hook" about it. "Aww, it wasn't that bad." It doesn't matter because it's already a law on the books in almost every state, especially some place like New York. Laws against bestiality are designed to protect the fringes of society into slipping to the depths of subhuman filth. And no, I never "tried the old peanut butter trick" with any dog, ever, not as a kid, never. It saddens me as a dogowner to even imagine humiliating my buddy that way. It's depressing that it has become a cliche in our culture.

what in the name of god would a person want to screw an animal for is beyond sick and unreal boy the world we live in is just full of sickos thats for dam sure.

Miss Spelling & Burl Barer both of you are really bright people. One corrects grammar and the other can't figure out that it's wrong to have sex with horses?

I can't believe that the police chief actually said he did more harm than Michael Vick! Is he a victim of an untreated series of head injuries? I just don't see the crime in this. I think the worse crime is how embarrassing it is that he got caught and we had to hear about it. But, considering the way guys are, it in no way surprises me.

Jane, I guess the question then is whether you think the 40+ states that have laws against bestiality should repeal them, or should they just ammend them to say "if the animal is smaller than a human?" What woul be the purpose of being lenient on bestiality, because so many people understand teh innocent pleasures of it? Isn't it something worth trying to discourage?

I don't really care except that the reason it's probably a law is because it will spread diseases (isn't that how aids got started, from people having sex with monkeys?) As long as the guy just sticks to horses and doesn't spread it around to people, I just don't see the "crime" because I highly doubt that an animal as big as a horse can feel that too much or cares.

Regardless of whether the reason is the containment of diseases, doesn't it seem like a good idea to keep ALL bestiality in legal, just so we don't have to waste our legal system's resources splitting hairs about whether the animal would have found it unpleasurable? Suddenly, if this guy did it to a cat, you would care, but we need the law to be situational in case there are other animals where it is less unnatural? The disease prevention is a good enough reason for me, personally, but I would want it to be illegal across teh board. I'm sure this guy's only sexual interest isn't horses. He would probably prefer a human girl if they didn't find him so creepy, I'm sure. So the logic of him not spreading germs from animal to human is kind of weak. They would have to prove he never touched a human and then he would be off the hook in your perfect world?

The "crime" is because it is already ILLEGAL! When people comment in this kind of way about something which is already a crime, questioning was wrong with the alleged actions, they should probably apply that energy to changing the law, no? The opinion isn't going to influence the law or charges being applied to the arrest, but it's also technically wrong to question where the crime is, it's right there in the details!

"...illegal," the first sentence should have read.

Of course it would be terrible to do to a small animal because it would cause SERIOUS PAIN & BODILY INJURY (probably death) but then it would be animal abuse. But speeding and murder are both crimes. I agree with you, our legal system's resources should never be spent on this kind of stuff. But should people really actually go to jail for this? I think it should be just a fine and mandatory therapy. The dude's messed up!

Jane, Concerned Citizen,
I wish that people would blog opinions instead of their IQ's.

Any sentence I have ever heard of for similar offenses is minimal. I guess I would say someone should go to jail for it, though, yes. Otherwise, what is the deterrent for that kind of depravity? Knowing you were going to have a scary $200 fine? LE would be less likely to arrest anyone for it if it was going to amount to a ticket. I just don't think the size of the animal should be written into the law. Keep it simple, all bestiality = wrong, illegal. Doesn't matter if it hurts the animal or not. I am not sure any mandatory therapy has even been developed for this that would be effective, really.

Fuck all of you guys because he obviously was not sober at this time. I wuld know because he was my bestfriend. None of you know his state of mind at those moments. You guys dont know him.

Jasmine,
Dude, why would you want to be friends with this guy? When drunk or sober I would think that a human being is alot nicer then something with four legs. Unless that is all this guy could get.

Jasmine,

You know this guy? Right. Sure. And I was just at Coscto's with Barrack Obama and Michael Moore. We go shopping together every week.

j,
with everything else that goes on, I'm just not worried about an adequate deterrent for this type of crime. I fully believe that my husband does not have sex with animals and if he did, I have complete faith in myself to figure that out way before the cops. Every woman for herself on this one.

Jane, not really sure how your husband came up. I hope you're right, that he doesn't have sex with animals. Glad you think that dealing with bestiality should be entrusted for families to handle. What in the world does this have to do with women and their spouses? Why don't you lobby your senators to take bestiality laws off the books, unless you have the good fortune to already live in one of the few backwards states that hasn't recognized this is the disgusting crime that it is.

I love the theory that it should be completely ignored "with everything else going on." That's from that same school of thought where you are only able to criticize America in better economic times, I take it? Ah, you must just be a bleeding heart, selectively conservative Libertarian. Or maybe you're just a proponent of "the peanut butter trick."

Based on the behaviors and attitudes of people, they're pretty much all backwards states. Pick one.

No,
I just think this is so rare and sending the person to jail to be with real criminals who might know what he did is cruel and unusual punishment. I don't think he'd be real popular in jail, except in one way. And that far outwieghs the actual "crime" that he did. Do you think the horse is standing around crying it's eyes out about how it was violated? This is an example of a person who is probably almost incompetent.

I think the major difference between us (no, it isn't magically revealed by our choices of who we voted for), is that I intuitively understand that what he did was ALREADY ILLEGAL IN NEW YORK, plus the fact that if I truly believed it was innocent, harmless fun worthy of a wrist-slapping, I would be lobbying my state to soften their laws against it, rather than defending some sick fuck on the internet. In short, I don't actually care if he spends 6 months being someone's prison bitch as a reminder to remain above heathens and that he doesn't have to indulge every depraved sexual urge he has. What makes someone a "real criminal" worthy of being sent to jail? When you say jail, that is probably more appropriate, because there is a big difference in county jail and state prison. He is unlikely to go to state prison for this. I can be caught with drug possession and go to prison for the same amount of time he is likely to get in jail.

I don't see any evidence that he is "probably incompetent," and I also don't see how an animals inability to vocalize trauma or even the slightest disgust or discomfort with being taken advantage of the way you nonsensically describe it has anything to do with the fact that this guy did something repeatedly that everyone should know is wrong and unnatural. Don't put a burden of proof that the sex was unwanted on the horse! It's about protecting animals who have no ability to consent. Why should humans be able to do whatever the hell they want to an animal, with no consequences? If it isn't right to do it to a cat, it isn't right to do it to a horse, period.

Jane, J,

Just my opinion. I have horses and I train them. In order for a human to have sex with a horse, the animal has to be cornered and tied. The horse more then likely will struggle and put up a fight. Depending on the horse. These horses are someone's pet. Do you want this guy having sex with you dog or cat? That is what it would be like to me if he had sex with my horses. Her in Califoria it is against the Law. Thank God

Forgot the E on here

Sandy,
Of course not. I just think it is so rare and pathetic that to jail someone for this is cruel and an unnecessary waste of tax dollars. A person who would do that is more disturbed then any one I have ever met and in desperate need of help.

Thank you Sandy. The only thing I would add to that is it's not OK to do it to your own pet either! No exceptions for any bestiality! Jane, your logic doesn't stand up. A crime being rare (if it even is, I can think of at least a few cases in the past year!) shouldn't have any impact on whether it is punishable by more than a fine. People are jailed for much reasons someone is going to disagree with all the time, i.e. drug possession. You want him to have help? A little time in jail is going to help him remember never to fuck another horse. Anyway, when that guy died a few years ago from making a horse fuck him, I read that Oregon, I believe it was, was one of about 10 states finally addressing the need for a bestiality taboo on the law books, as a result of that case. That's how it should be. You want to save tax dollars, don't try and complicate the issue by showing sympathy for someone who does it to one animal vs. another.

Jane,

1.Having sex with animals(bestiality)is not uncommon. This practice has been going on for centuries. It's not just horses. Cows, goats, pigs, donkeys, mules, dogs. Just about any type of animal you can think of. I can understand where you are coming from with the taxpayers. You have to remember all that the cruelty law will consist of. Fines, community service, schools to educated them.(they pay). The fines come close to having a DUI. Not to mention jail time. When they are convicted of cruelty to animals. Most of the time the judge will order NO MORE ANIMALS.

Your Welcome J, " Have a Happy New Year."

j,
The issue is already complicated, I didn't complicate it. There IS a HUGE difference between doing that do a small dog (which it would probably kill) and a horse, just like if a person rapes a grown woman as opposed to a small child. You don't think one is worse than the other? OMG, they are so much worse in the consequences for the victim. Seriously,
look at the below link on this site, this guy got 3 years

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/11/rodell_vereen_gets_3_years_for.php

That's cruel and unusual, this guy is pathetic and looks and sounds like he is almost mentally retarded. To put him in prison with real criminals is just wrong.

But Jane, your analogy here is perfect! It is equally wrong to rape and adult and a child. We just have an even stronger gag reflex to the child. But the fact that one is less physically painful is irrelevant to me, beyond one carrying a heavier sentence. Most of these cases I hear about, the perp gets a suspended jail sentence and a fine. I would be willing to bet he won't actually spend time in jail, which I'm sort of comfortable agreeing might not fit such a crime. It's just splitting hairs about whether it's worse to do it to one animal vs. another I can't agree with. Laws uphold democratically agreed-upon moral principles, and they shouldn't have a sliding scale based on the convenience to the entity being molested.

Also, I glanced at the other guy's picture, had recalled that story from the news. I haven't heard him speak, but I certainly can't deduce anything about his IQ from his photo. I don't think this kid is retarded. I think a lot of competent people have done similar acts. Anyway, 3 years might be excessive, sure. I would expect a few months in jail, though, and I would be hard-pressed to protest it if that was the case. I also think you have to consider that these guys have committed breaking and entering crimes, though.

Jane, J
We could debate this issue well into 2011. There is no right or wrong opinion here. The bottom line is that these laws protect animals. Jane, I do not understand where you can justify the size of an animal determines the penalty of the crime?

j,
I do agree with you on that, that some jail time is a deterrent, but prison, no, not with the real bad guys, doesn't deserve that.

Sandy,
It's just that done to a small animal, it would cause serious harm and very possibly death as opposed to a larger animal.

Jane,
I am looking at this more from a logical perspective. Regardless of the size, this is a crime. If it were up to me, I would not put these guys or girls in prison. No matter the size or species of the animal the crime should carry a huge fine. The money should be put back into protecting animals from animal cruelty.(SPCA) or some kind of oorganization that protects abused animals.

Jane I hope you do not take our debates the wrong way. I don't want to upset you. Some of the other bloggers take this stuff to heart. I have found that debating back and fourth a person can see both sides.

Sandy,
Not at all. I really think it opens people's minds a little. (Although I do admit I am a little rough sometimes because I have seen people very mis-treated and there are a lot of reasons that things occur, basically shit flows down hill, I think people are too quick to string someone up who we think is "evil") But your idea about giving huge fines and giving the money to the SPCA, now that's an idea that SOLVES problems, not makes them worse.

Maybe, except for the problem - in my opinion - of people not resisting their disgusting urges to fuck animals! That's not a strong enough deterrent. The slaps on the wrist are what makes people think...well, no one actually goes to prison for this, so what the hell.

J,
I thought you said putting these guys in prison would cost the taxpayers money. The fines would take it out of the animal abusers pocket and put money back into the system.

Actually, no, I am pretty sure that was someone else. It is not really my m.o. to complain about taxes in regards to prison. I see it as a necessary evil. One way or another, crime is costing us tons of money, no matter what the solutions are.

I guess it doesn't matter. If you make it a big giant fine instead of jail, the chances of getting money out of this guy or anyone like him are slim. Then his license would be suspended for the judgement for the fine, then he would get a driving on suspension, then he would have to file and sr-22 and so he would probably be driving around without insurance (assuming he's licensed and has a car) because he couldn't afford it, then the chances of getting money out of him become even slimmer and on and on. (This is the route they take with deadbeat dads and then wonder why they don't pay.)

this guy got some serious problem mess up in the head worse yet the horses is his baby momma lol the guy should be hang