Abused boy ate feces, drank urine to survive
In case you feel like being really weirded out on this fine Monday morning, we bring you this tale from Chino Valley, Arizona. That's where a man came home to find his 6-month-old collie missing from his fenced-in yard...
So he searched the neighborhood looking for the young lass, to no avail. When he arrived back home, he found his neighbor -- 38-year-old Gary Riley -- raping the animal.
But it seems Riley wasn't ready to give up his newfound sexual treasure. He put up a struggle before the neighbor punched him in the face to ensure the dog's release. By the time police arrived, Riley was hiding under a bed.
He claimed he was just returning the dog to its rightful owner. But police found scratches and claw marks all over his body -- including his pelvic area, which presumably would have been covered in any decent I'm Just Returning Your Dog case.
A medical exam also indicated the dog had been raped. Riley is now being held for bestiality, assault and theft.







HOOLY SHIT THIS IS HILARIOUS
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:44:05 AMNo its disgusting. Wish the nice doggie had turned around and bit his johnson off.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 12:23:26 PMHope they check the poor pooch for STD's that might have been transmitted to it by this creep. Can't imagine he used a condom.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 12:46:46 PMOk, that's just disgusting! I literally wanted to throw up in my mouth a little. This guy is a sicko. If he would rape a dog, what's to stop him from doing it to a woman or child? Sick bastard.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 02:40:08 PMTalk about doing it "doggie style"!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 02:51:23 PMIf you need me, I'll be in my lab.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 02:57:06 PMOK Pete Smith, that's too funny. Good one.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:00:31 PM"Hope they check the poor pooch for STD's that might have been transmitted to it by this creep. Can't imagine he used a condom."
LOL Jon. I think you need a few lectures in biology if you think the majority of STDs are human and K9 interchangeable.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:19:42 PMThis is how new diseases are started...People are just so nasty sometimes.I mean women are constantly treated like dogs.Its ok if u "hit and leave"...We're used to men like that.You dont have to go out and have sex with dog...This guy is so disgusting!!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:21:48 PM"If he would rape a dog, what's to stop him from doing it to a woman or child?" What a stupidly pointless thing to say, assuming Chino Valley, Arizona actually does count women and children among its citizens and it's not like the dog was the only hole going. Seems he made a point of avoiding humans, which is good.
If you were "a woman or child" (or even a childish woman), you should be glad that he's (actually) screwing the pooch because at least that way, he's not doing YOU. This is actually a very socially responsible form of perverty inasmuch as no humans were harmed during the act. Except for him. But that goes with the territory.
What's the dog going to do? Undergo counselling on the taxpayer's dime? Have to spend a night in the hospital getting swabbed with a rape kit? Spend weeks avoiding her husband? Have ugly flashbacks every time it watches that Kelly McGillis/ Jodie Foster movie?
No. So get over it. The guy wants to screw a dog, let him screw a dog. It's not really up my street but still, IT'S A DOG. It's not like he did Mary Poppins from behind in his neighbor's yard.
And look- notice who's hiding under the bed? Riley! Not the dog. The dog was probably out somewhere having a post-coital lump of shit to eat or perhaps smelling some other dog's urine. It may even have been lying around somewhere licking itself, just because it can. Adorable creatures, dogs.
A little twisted? Yes. Not for everyone? Of course not. But harmful to humans? Errrr...nope.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:23:43 PMYes,
Maybe the punch in the face at the owner was just misunderstood chivalry, not wanting his date to go home with another man.
Just a note when your daughters start dating, make sure they ask if the guy's ever had sex with an animal.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:42:31 PMsicko.need's to be dead.if i was the owner and he was in my house he would be.grow some balls people. this keep's happen'ing and no one does 1 thing about it.rapeing animals'' children'' or girls.they should get put to death.but what do they get 1-3 years in jail then out to do the same thing over and over again.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:43:20 PMSeth,
My point is that most sicko's start out with animals. If he is that sick to be raping a dog, what's to stop him from doing the exact same thing to a woman or child? I mean he has proven that he is a disgusting douche bag, why wouldn't he? And as far as your whole "he did it to a dog, not a person, so why should we care" mentality. Most people, including myself, treat and think of their animals as family. Attack me if you feel the need, but that's how I feel. Animals, children, and the elderly are some of the most defenseless creatures on this earth and its our job to protect them. I have 3 dogs and a 4 year old daughter, and I'm glad this freak isn't anywhere near me!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 03:56:52 PMWow this is absolutely sad and discusting, and Seth, so are you. You obviously dont have pets (thank god) b/c if you did you would understand how devastating that would be. For us, and them. Doesnt need therapy? How do you know everytime that puppy sees a man he wont attack him now? Dont pretend you know that a dog doesnt have feelings and can't get hurt. If they can love and be loyal they can have pain.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:02:44 PM"Woof" means "Yes".
If dogs were meant to be defenseless, they would've have pointy teeth and claws. Unlike children and the elderly.
Maybe pit bulls really are lovable creatures but all that face-ripping and throat-tearing is just because of some "really heavy emotional baggage" they've been carrying around from their pasts.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:21:07 PMSeriously Seth? You are quite an idiot. You wouldn't have a problem if everyone went around raping animals left and right? Doesn't seem like it would be a problem to me! Oh wait, it would be.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:34:43 PMWell Seth, I hope you dont have animals if you can't understand that animals can feel things too. No one ever said anything about years of emotional baggage, even though yes, beating a dog for years can weigh the dog down with emotional baggage, just like any other animal. So how do you know this attack on this puppy won't hurt him, or he won't remember it or have ugly flashbacks? Are you a dog?
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:40:05 PMAnd yes, this is harmful for the dogs owner (aka HUMANS). That kind of thing, especially to see it, would be devastating.
And I do understand your point about "you should be glad that he's (actually) screwing the pooch because at least that way, he's not doing YOU", except hurting animals is one of the signs of a "serial killer/rapist" and it could be only a matter of time for that to get old and he'll graduate to hurting people.
Those dogs deserve as much protection as anyone. They are trusting creatures. More importantly, he will eventually turn to helpless humans. Where do seriel killers start, animals. If you think the dog wasn't harmed try sticking something three times your thumb length up your anus.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:46:49 PMHiding under the bed due to the shame of having tried to return the lost dog to its rightful owner? He is a creep. I hope the animal shelters never let him adopt a pet when he gets out of jail.
Even women who make use of trained Dobermans know to muzzle it before they position themselves receptively.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 04:57:24 PMFoolsGold,
Posted 01/25/2010 at 05:13:10 PMI now have an image inside of my head that it's going to take numerous drinks to erase. Yuck.
.WHAT FLAMMIN A PHSYCO. huh
Posted 01/25/2010 at 05:27:42 PMIt is sick....but to those asking "what would keep him from doing this to a woman or child" I'd assume the fact the dog can't speak makes this seem more acceptable to him since he'd think he could get away with it.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 06:06:40 PMHey give the guy a break, the dog was always coming on to him! Bitch deserved it!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 06:28:49 PM(for the slow witted that fly off the handle easily: the preceding was satire.)
Why did the a-hole do a dog?
ahhh, cause Lassie couldn't talk + tell.
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If my pet were raped I'd be doing everything legal in my power to shame and reciprocate against the rapist.
Think about it: The animal can be horribly physically harmed.
Would YOU want to be on the receiving end of this guy's perversion? SPEAK SETH SPEAK!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 06:38:55 PMConverting dog to human years the dog is 5.25 years old, so this is actually child rape.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 07:42:29 PMbiologist Marc Bekoff, of the University of Colorado, who has compiled
animals share some of the same feelings as man – actually experiencing pain, grief, and joy The temperament correct
The statement about pitbulls is incorrect depending on how they are trained and raised these animals can make wonderful pets. A little info. on the breed
Pit Bull….
Posted 01/25/2010 at 07:53:54 PM….towards people: Is a friendly, happy, outgoing dog, never shy or fearful.demonstrates mental soundness(no growling, snapping, biting, aggressing, or fearful
behavior, etc.) even under stressful circumstances,while under veterinary examination, when injured, during visits to new locations/ while meeting new and different types of people/ Is accepting of and friendly towards all
adults and children inside and outside the home. Greets new people as if they were long lost friends.
….Is easy to handle, allows and even enjoys extensive touch and examination; is biddable and deferential,and submissive; seeks out human attention, and presents good eye contact with a soft gaze. Is willing to connect with people during points of high arousal/stress (never redirecting aggression towards people….Is never wary of strangers; never snaps or growls at adults or children, does not demonstrate predatory behavior such as stalking, staring down, or aggressive chasing of people.
I've said it once -- and I'll say it again: Texas, Florida and Arizona should secede from the Union. They shouldn't even have a choice in the matter. It has been proven that those three states have the highest percentages of dolts, dimwits, dumb-asses, cretins, morons, racists, sexists, fascists, fundamentalists, retards and shit-for-brains in the entire world. We would be better off without the lot of 'em.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 09:37:26 PMHey Marie, while i do agree this guy is wrong and has issues, not all deviants are the same. To be smarmy, his love of pooch is keeping him from doing this to women and children. That and probably a lack of interest in children, and a general sense of morals. keep in mind, it's rather common for people to view animals as things without feelings or rights. I'm not saying i agree with that, but that's just how i've seen things. Not the nicest place :\
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:22:47 PMIn regards to the STD comment, I'm pretty sure human STD's (now refered to as STI's) are not transferable to dogs. Despite the popular idea that AID's originated from a man having sex with a monkey, it mutated through monkeys to humans, and it is speculated that it was from monkey meat being consumed that had a similar form of the aids virus. But I digress.
Monkeys share 98% of their DNA with us, Dogs on the other hand, not so much. I'm sure the puppy will not have any stds.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:26:24 PMhey jon you dumbass, animal std's cannot be transfered to humans and vise versa, Idiot
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:34:21 PMHe is a sick and should himself be severly dealt with.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:36:56 PMThis guy may be seriously disturbed, but you guys are taking this way too seriously.
Dogs are the same as any other animal but if you want to call having sex with it rape and putting it along the same lines as raping a child or a girl then I believe you're mistaken. While its seriously gross, how is it any more vile or immoral than eating an animal? Or putting animals in cages. With the same logic of likening the rape of a dog to a human, then the majority of the human race are cannibals. Then in that case we're all going to hell. This man likely has severe psychological issues which stem probably from a messed up childhood so you cannot directly blame this man; he probably has some serious issues.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:43:22 PMDogs forget traumatic events like that much more easily than us, and yes if it's with a dog and not with another person, it's the much lesser of the two in terms of severity. He should have at least bought a dog himself for some loving.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 10:51:01 PMActually Richard, this is quite close to raping a person. The bottom line here is not hell, but the matter of consent. The difference between sex and rape is consent, just as a child is not capable of giving consent neither can an animal.
I definitely agree with you that this man has deep issues and which he should be treated for, but saying that it is due to his childhood is irrelevant. Everyone had a messed up childhood, whether you were pampered or beaten.
This guy needs help to learn to control his behavior, and to learn that all fantasies are not to be acted upon. I may want to have sex with every other girl I come across, but I do not jump her. I realize that having sex with some random girl is only a fantasy, which can only be acted upon only with the proper consent.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:03:53 PMI wonder if the dog has a sister who's not seeing anyone?
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:05:03 PMRichard are you kidding us?
Don't blame the guy because he probably had a horrible childhood?
And it isn't really "rape". Really? The dog most likely is torn up from the assault on the inside after being humped by a human and you believe it shouldn't matter it has been hurt? Reality is that raping an animal is no different than beating it.
Yes and this is why society today is in the toilet and sinking to new LOWER levels every year. Pass the buck society - don't blame someone just claim it isn't their fault "because". Why force someone to TAKE responsibility for one's actions. We teach this slop to our children. Oh don't blame this person for their actions it's because they were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth, they had a hard life, or (insert ANY sob story) so it is impossible to blame them - blame someone else or something else just don't blame the person who took the wrong action.
It's easy to teach this stuff when the quack medical profession of pyscho-babble serves this "blame-free" dumbing down mentality to society and in essence nobody is ever responsible for their actions if they can point the finger somewhere else.
When a human must sexually gratify themselves with a helpless creature it isn't about being "gross" it is mentally unstable individual.
If a human has sunk so low in their character that they use their power to sexually gratify themselves on another living being then what's their NEXT STEP? A child, and elderly or disabled person?
Sadly many human beings are simply ignorant as Seth has demonstrated with his inept reasoning. Seth can you explain why so many animals are sitting in shelters tonight because they were abused? Do you understand that their "teeth" didn't serve them well because most animals won't attack their abusive owners out of FEAR you idiot or else people wouldn't be abusing animals.
Abuse like blame is downgraded today which is why society is raising more violent and emotionally detached people everyday.
When an animal is really "nothing" as many have asserted in their opinions it becomes easier to detach from people too.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:18:18 PMThat poor dog only 6 months old. The guy should be taken behind a shed and have a bullet put in his head along with all rapists.
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:19:36 PMJail is nothing compared to what his sheep will do when she finds out!
Posted 01/25/2010 at 11:56:46 PMAnyone remember Dark Knight when Batman had to save either Harvey Dent or Rachael Dawes? Well how about we put a puppy and a little girl in a similar situation except Batman must save them from "rape" by a weirdo. Who would you save from rape: a little girl or a dog? Why?
Alex
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:02:45 AMI don't think what this man did was right, by any means. But I also agree that many of you are blowing this way out of proportion.
The least the guy could have done was gotten his own dog, and not screwed his neighbors pet - that's pretty messed up. I agree that dogs have emotions and are completely capable of being traumatized by such an incident. But I also know that dogs are animals (as are humans, but dogs are more pure). Sex is a very primal and animalistic thing. I don't think the dog would be traumatized by this any more than she would have if some random dog came up and started humping her. Like I said, he should have gotten his own dog if he wanted to do this sort of thing with it. He could actually build a relationship with the animal and the animal could in fact enjoy it. Well, enjoy may be a stretch (er... bad choice of words) since humans and dolphins are among the only animals that have sex for pleasure. What I mean is that the dog could come to see the act as a way of showing affection, and therefore like and even [i]want[/i] that sort of attention.
This sort of thing isn't for most people, and definitely not for me... But I just figured this information should be put out there so people can be enlightened. What he did was wrong, but there are other ways to look at this - in a more open minded and less judgmental way.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:10:44 AMsick bastard!
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:31:12 AMThe dog is fine. Worry about the creep who stole her.
BTW people who "rape" animals usually dont go around raping humans. Obviously, their choice of animals is safer and easier for them to pull off.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:45:20 AMMan's best friend, Why choose? Save the child first and go back for the dog. The dog may have been already raped by the abuser; But once the dog is rescued and the abuser is turned into the police for animal cruelty both child and dog are saved. The child is safe, the dog will never be abused again, Abuser goes to jail.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 01:10:54 AMI hope that all of these idiots that are trying to vindicate the rape of an animal end up having retarded children that are then raped by the local meth-head. After all, if they are retarded then it's okay to rape them because they aren't as smart as the rest of the human race, and we as humans are entitled to do whatever we want to anything on this planet since we own it and everything on it, right?
Posted 01/26/2010 at 01:14:12 AMThese douchebags are surely cut from the same cloth as Gary Riley; they obviously share the exact same mentality as him. "It's only a dog".
If someone had sex with my dog I'd be mad as hell but at the end of the day a pet is a glorified possession with minimal rights. Anyone of you retards trying to equate them to the level of humans are a bit insane yourself. What's next - charging Old Yeller's owner with murder?
Posted 01/26/2010 at 02:00:36 AMOk, so some of you have not thought this out thoroughly... all that realy needs to be said, judge included, is "WTF, dude. Really?". Seriously. Wh@t Th3 Fu{k? I mean, c'mon. A dog? Don't screw the p00ch. Wow, man. WOW! Seriously twisted.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 02:27:10 AMHe just couldn't pass up a nice piece of lass.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 03:19:37 AMwould you rather me rape your dog or kid? hmm whats worse? im pretty sure most would choose to save the kid first. and all you fucking idiots who think pets are the same as children are pathetic a dog is a fucking dog.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 03:51:54 AMWe are pathetic because we love our animals? Because we treat them with love and respect the same as if we would our children? If my house was on fire, I would make sure my daughter was safe, then get my animals. I'm not saying I treat them the same as my daughter, but pretty close. I make sure they are fed and watered every day, just like my daughter. I make sure they have somewhere warm to sleep every night, just like my daughter. I get onto them if they have done something bad, just like my daughter. I give them love and attention, just like my daughter. They only difference between my animals and my daughter is I don't dress my cats or dogs, that's about it.
What you people don't seem to be gettin is, he raped a dog! He RAPED a DOG! How freakin sick do you have to be to rape a dog?!?! I mean come on. Did you think that you would wake up this morning, read a story like this, and say "you know, it was only a dog, what's the big deal?" Put aside the fact that its against the law, its just straight up nasty! And whose to say that he hasn't raped/molested before this and just never got caught? Or whose to say he might not rape/molest after this? Most mass murderers start out with animals, what's to say sickos like this won't move up? You people sittin there sayin "oh, would you rather him rape your child or your dog?" or "its just a dog, it doesn't matter" really need to get your head examined if you think this is ok, for whatever reason. I don't care if he raped a dog or a horse. He is sick and he needs to get his head examined as well. I don't care if he had the worst childhood ever. A lot of people have had horrible childhoods and they don't go around raping anything! They have gone on to become productive, law abiding citizens.
Just me but this is just straight up nasty. There is no excuse for why he did this other than he is a very disturbed, very sick sob. Sit there and attack me all you want for thinking that, I really don't care. But anyone who thinks this is not so bad or ok, is just as bad as this guy.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 04:23:43 AMWell I guess I am and some of the other guests are fucking idiots and pathetic, because we love our pets. Some of you that said what this guy did is not rape And there just dogs? According to these Doctors and the laws that protect animals you are wrong.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 04:33:19 AMMasters (1962) uses the term "bestialist" specifically in his discussion of zoosadism, which refers to deriving sexual pleasure from cruelty to animals. Stephanie LaFarge, an assistant professor of psychiatry at the New Jersey Medical School, and Director of Counseling at the ASPCA, writes that two groups can be distinguished: bestialists, who rape or abuse animals, and zoophiles
Hey Seth. Maybe this creep should join YOU in the sack the next time. And after he's through, you could lie in the post coital wet spot whining like the bitch (female dog) that you are.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 04:48:50 AMTo be fair the dog *was* running around nude outdoors and on all fours... it was pretty much asking for it amiright? :D
Posted 01/26/2010 at 05:21:00 AMHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH
I know if I was caught raping a dog, I'd go straight under the bed.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 05:46:28 AMHAD TO BE A WHITE GUY--------
Posted 01/26/2010 at 06:28:31 AMBoris said, Now that's funny.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 07:04:54 AMIf I saw this guy raping my dog, he wouldn't have made it to under the bed. I would have killed him.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 09:16:16 AMI agree with David here. Death Penalty would result in a lot more truly thinking about the deviation here! Not that it is funny in a sick way! I think rapists should be raped in return, then actually killed. Can't fix them~so really mess them up and get rid of the left overs. Want to treat others as they would be treated. Eye for an eye, rape and death just like rape actually effects a human being. They die inside, it makes a human being feel worthless. Look into what truly happens to a child of less than eight years old, when they are raped! That child will never get over it, nor will a grown human being! This world is just getting more use to it! They don't end it, our system just keeps itself needed! Wake-up America, don't learn to deal!
Posted 01/26/2010 at 09:46:55 AMTypical cracker behavior
Posted 01/26/2010 at 10:27:47 AMI am sickened by some of these comments. What is happening to people - how can anything so sick be amusing? What kind of monster rapes a defenseless animal, child, woman? We need to change laws on how this is handled - it is so out of control - and it is far from HILARIOUS - how hilarious would it be if it happened to the person who makes such a sick comment? Principles and morals are far gone from our society - maybe it comes from all the sex and violence we allow on the TV, radio and in computer games. It needs to stop - people and animals are now safe in this world.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 11:41:58 AMClassic cracker love story. Boy meets dog.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:02:05 PMS in Chicago: I seriously doubt that "sex and violence we allow on the TV, radio and in computer games" has anything to do with an individual's care for doing what is right. People do bad things whether they watch TV or not. People every day do good things inspite of violence on TV. A bad person is just a bad person and to use TV, radio, and video games as an excuse is a copout.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:03:10 PMNo body should have been raped you all act like "its cool as long as i don't get raped'
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:40:10 PMthis reminds me of this awesome torrent I just finished
Posted 01/26/2010 at 12:59:20 PMhttps://www.zetatracker.net/index.php?page=details&id=85dac9c4b5c65f06c5f34b6050d499e56845f841
Women should be glad he's fucking dogs and that is supposed to make them feel safer? Wtf?
Posted 01/26/2010 at 01:19:23 PM"all the sex and violence we allow on the TV, radio and in computer games"... Is that the best you could do? Let's blame something other than ourselves for how fucked up we are. It's a shame when people come to this ridiculous conclusion. Not everyone is as weak-minded as you that they can be influenced on a deep psychological and moral level by everything around them.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 01:47:31 PMTo Seth:
Posted 01/26/2010 at 02:06:21 PMI agree in the sense that at least this weirdo is not raping a person, but I would like to point out the fact that mutilating animals is almost always the m.o. for future serial killers.
Bet you dollars to doughnuts he was on meth!!!
Posted 01/26/2010 at 02:26:51 PMThe pup was probably wearing a micro skirt and a halter top. Totally asking for it.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 02:29:18 PMI wonder if it was as good for the dog as it was for him??
Posted 01/26/2010 at 04:13:41 PMI wonder if he came before he got punched in the face.Just saying..........
Posted 01/26/2010 at 04:50:13 PMDara,
Posted 01/26/2010 at 05:24:07 PMThat's a great idea in theory but as of yet, we don't have the technology to transform human beings into dogs (this technology only exists in cartoons) and it will probably take more than 20 years to achieve in real life. It would be impossible to rape him as a dog so he knows what it feels like. Can you suggest anything more concrete?
quixquote,
Your comment seems a bit controversial. You are saying that if collie rape is not the same as human rape then mentally retarded people are not human? I don't see the connection between the 2 opinions.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 05:30:26 PMEeeeeeewwww! This guy needs to be locked up in a padded cell.
Posted 01/26/2010 at 05:35:46 PMObviously there's something very wrong with this rapist of a dog. In order for him to work in "normal" society "what is normal now a days?" he would probably need a shrink. And a lot of therapi or something, I mean after he raped the dog. He hid under the bed like a little child would do after having done something bad.
Read the comments, this place is total troll fodder. People are often very emotional when they read or experience crimes or heinous acts. Seth's just using you to turn the posts of topic, the angrier you all get the more fun it is for him... Quite a sad life where his favorite emotional response is hate. Quite sad that I actually had to write this shit xD
Posted 01/26/2010 at 07:53:25 PMThe best thing about screwing around with dogs is they can't get mad when you call them 'bitch'
Posted 01/27/2010 at 03:17:04 AMI just think he really had no choice but to go for dogs, it seems like all the children, grandmothers and horses are spoken for.
Posted 01/27/2010 at 07:21:16 AMwhen my brother was still alive, if you asked on a bad day how he was feeling, he would respond it's the life of a dog f*cker...now, i finally understand what he meant!
Posted 01/27/2010 at 07:31:27 AMGuys, hold up for a sec. Everyone keeps calling this rape. How do we know that it was not consensual?
Posted 01/27/2010 at 08:36:54 AMor3o said:
would you rather me rape your dog or kid? hmm whats worse? im pretty sure most would choose to save the kid first. and all you fucking idiots who think pets are the same as children are pathetic a dog is a fucking dog.
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and I'm sure you ARE OUT raping the neighbors kids which is WHY you hide behind a computer
rape my kid I would cut off your equipment your hands and your tongue YOU wouldn't ever rape another LIVING thing or talk trash about doing it ever again
Posted 01/27/2010 at 10:14:45 AMRenee said: "rape my kid I would cut off your equipment your hands and your tongue YOU wouldn't ever rape another LIVING thing or talk trash about doing it ever again"
I highly doubt this, because few people in this world have the guts to handle such a task. While most people could understand an emotional response (like that probably was), your vigilantism would hurt your children far more than if your child was sexually assulted. You would most definitely lose your children, freedom and sanity. You would be a sex offender for committing sexual assult on another person, exactly what you're railing against.
Again, I understand the emotional response, just keep your comments in line with reality.
Posted 01/27/2010 at 12:47:17 PMMan, are you joking? Animals can't give consent, come on. If the law allowed for it, every redneck with no morals against bestiality would be doing this openly.
Posted 01/27/2010 at 05:49:09 PMSeriously you guys....most of you are stupid, with the exception of Seth and a few others...just because the man wants to have sexual relations DOES NOT
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:09:06 AMmean that he is gonna rape a woman or a child...thats like comparing a woman and a child to an animal...it just isnt a comparison....and another thing....who says its rape? maybe the dog came onto him? maybe it was love? who the fuck are you to say that dogs cant give consent? Have you fuckers actually sat down and talked with your fucking pets....no thought not because you think they cant talk to you...but they can....they can talk to you like any other creature on this planet...you just have to listin
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:12:45 AMYou foolish people. A dog cannot legally give consent, bestiality will always be illegal. Get help if you think it is just "harmless fun" or "loving" or whatever.
Posted 01/28/2010 at 11:31:49 AMwhat I am most concerned about is what's going to happen next...what if the dog has a litter of puppies with this guy's head? will they be considered humans or dogs? what if they are dogs with a human's brain? what if some of the puppies in the litter act more like puppies and what if other ones act more like humans? i in NO WAY condone this type of behavior...but if someone is going to do something like that, we need to encourage them to pull out and spooge on the dog's back or face, so we're not faced with these types of issues....it's just not fair to the puppies OR the dog...OR the taxpayers of Arizona for that matter. I dont want to pay to send some hybrid dog-kids to school!
Posted 01/28/2010 at 05:56:43 PMI took the liberty of conducting some legal research on this matter and...get this....the dog, legally, has no rights in the state of arizona for the following reasons:
*The dog is NOT a U.S. Citizen
*The dog does not speak English
*The dog does not have a social security number or tax ID of any sort
*The dog does not pay taxes
*The dog is not a registered voter
If any of the above were true, the dog would actually have a case..but..since they are not..this guy will probably be able to go free and do this as much as he want...
Posted 01/28/2010 at 06:06:52 PMI agree with doggonnit, we need to get our priorities straight and make sure that all the ethnic groups that are already here are getting along before adding "dog-people" to the mix.
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:18:25 PMHey, maybe it will help if we pretend bestiality is funny and normal!
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:22:56 PMIt's probably a healthy attraction after all. Take the dog away from the owner and give it to her true rapist love. They deserve to be together, since it's such a tender and caring relationship.
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:24:51 PMFor anyone who doubts having sex with animals is a psychological disorder, there is a reason the American Psychiatric Association includes zoophilia in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
Posted 01/28/2010 at 08:41:11 PMj,
Posted 01/28/2010 at 09:09:06 PMShouldn't that only apply if animals were his first choice? Was he just desperate or did he have a chronic pattern of having sex with dogs?
j,
Posted 01/28/2010 at 09:32:40 PMYou are so right! I copied some imformation on zoophilia here is some of the imformation on it. These people perfer animals over people to have sex with. They even fall in-love with the animal.
Masters (1962) uses the term "bestialist" specifically in his discussion of zoosadism, which refers to deriving sexual pleasure from cruelty to animals. Stephanie LaFarge, an assistant professor of psychiatry at the New Jersey Medical School, and Director of Counseling at the ASPCA, writes that two groups can be distinguished: bestialists, who rape or abuse animals, and zoophiles
Your points are all well taken. Granted, from an ethical standpoint, I will be the first to argue that it is not healthy for grown man to engage in intercourse with a collie, or an animal from any sort, whether it be vaginal or anal.
But, from my expertise in the law, and my research in Arizona law, this situation presents many shades of grey.
Quite specifically, what is considered consensual, loving activity between man and beast and what is considered rape?
*Man lies next to dog (kind)
*Man strokes dogs fir (kind)
*DOG licks man to show affection (kind/normal)
*Man strokes dogs teets... (it happens)
All, quite normal in the view of owner-beast domesticated relationships (again, per AZ law)...
Then...
*Man strokes dogs' teets (or cock) and teets (or cock) get hard! Or teets start to get milky! Is that not the dog communicating to man that he/she wants to pursue the intimacy further? (as cited above, the dog does NOT speak English).
*Dog's yoyo starts to get wet and drippy (again, since the dog CANNOT speak English...because we live in a RACIST country that will NOT send him or her to school...this is the only way he/she can communicate)....
Does the man NOT....now that the natural signals of intimacy have been established.....have the option...dare i say responsibility...to slide his penis into the dog's vagina or ass cavity (if male)?
Another consideration is the correlation between the size of a human male penis and the corresponding male breed of the dog who would normally insert his penis into the receiving female (vujayjay/anus) or male (anus only)....
*Asian male -- 4" to 7"
*Caucasian male - 5" to 9"
*African male - 7" to 12"
*Hispanic male - 6" to 12"
The point being -- from a sociobiological standpoint -- that if the breed of human male penis is less than or equal to the corresponding breed of male dog who would mount the receptive female or male...can one really argue that the human male would harm them?
Or, put in another way....if a doberman sports like 9" and a human male does...what is the difference?
I know this is a VERY uncomfortable topic for most people...but, in all reality...how do YOU think dog's got here? Why does Bob Barker insist of having a dogs balls clipped or (if female) her vujayjay scooped out with an ice cream scooper for $80 at the vet?
The bottom line is that dogs have rights too - and you shouldnt apply YOUR sexual values and repression to the needs of a beast...
Also, in case you didnt know, a dogs hard weewee is referred to as the 'knob'....
Posted 01/28/2010 at 10:15:47 PMdoggonnit,
Posted 01/28/2010 at 10:31:02 PMI certainly think you are right, but your description is way too detailed. It's quite disturbing. There appears to be something terribly wrong with Bob Barker.
"Yes, I see you make a good argument for zoophilia being a mental disorder. Now let me disgust you with graphic details of what it is like for us zoophiles when we get turned on by an animal. Let me justify it by showing you how compatible human and animal genitalia is."
The way you obsessively ramble about it, desperate to normalize it, and the content of what you write about reveals how depraved you are. You know that it inspires an innate gag reflex in normal people, yet you delight in trying to force your creepy behavior on other people. I really urge you to seek help. I can't say that enough.
Posted 01/29/2010 at 01:35:20 AMYes, I realize it's painful to be reminded that you have a problem, but that's why you have to hide your fetish and expend so much effort anonymously blabbing about it. If there wasn't anything wrong with it, you could tell everyone freely about it, including your family. I'm sure they would be so proud.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 01:44:21 AMDoggonit,
So because my dog has a "pinkie" when he scratches his ears, I should conclude that he is turned on and have him do me? Is that what your trying to say? Cause if it is, your just sick. About as sick as the guy from the story. There is nothing right about a person when they have sex with an animal. One, its against the law. Two, its nasty, disgusting, vile, crazy, horrible, and whatever other word you can think of. I agree with "your sick". You should probably seek help if this is how you feel.
P.S. I'm pretty sure that the point behind Bob Barker asking people to fix their pets is so there won't be thousands of strays and unwanted animals. I have gotten one of mine fixed and plan on gettin the rest of them fixed as soon as I have the money. And also, I'm pretty sure that females don't have their vajayjay's scooped out with an ice cream scopper. Its not all that different from how women get tubal ligations. Its not in the vajayjay, as you call it, where females are impregnanted. That's further up into the body!
Posted 01/30/2010 at 02:08:04 AMdoggonnit,
Posted 01/30/2010 at 09:24:33 AMWhy don't you just date Oxana Malaya? She was raised by dogs and acts like one but is human. That may be the solution to your problems.
This story makes me want to BARF! You should love your pets...not LOVE your pets... don't the 10 Commandments say something about how "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife"? Guess it doesn't apply to pets.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 09:47:49 AM"He wouldn't give up his new found treasures" not only did he rape the dog but then fought to keep it going. Then hid under a bed, yeah they will never find you there, no one looks under the bed....SICKO!
Posted 01/30/2010 at 03:53:44 PMdoggonnit, your ramblings betray your mental illness. You maintain that you aren't condoning bestiality, yet you DO condone it. You have promoted the idea of seeing it as healthy and normal, but the American Psychiatric Association disagrees. You evidently think the law should be reformed to allow for some form of consent. Yet, if any degree of such behavior was universally allowed, the judicial system would have to go animal by animal clarifying which ones were suppopedly "compatible" as you like to see it, because the depraved people who engage in that behavior could never be trusted to use any sound judgment, or they wouldn't be having sex with animals in the first place. Legalizing it and the process of clarifying all of this would be ridiculous, frivolous, and unethical, even if that could ever happen, which I am positive never will. The reason it would be unethical is that animals are have the mental capacity of infants, and therefore any supposed "consent" would be totally illegitimate in the first place. Hence the laws as they stand. The other reason it would be unethical is that bestiality promotes disease. There are just a little over a dozen states that need to catch up with the rest of civilization in this regard. So, whatever loser zoophiles you think you're defending, don't waste anyone's time with it.
I actualy don't believe you are an academic student of the law. I believe attorneys would not be able to pass the Bar exam and write that poorly. You are all over the place, bringing in odd biblical references and concepts like men owning their wives that are toally irrelevant, lead no where in your arguments, and reveal your twisted perspectives on life. Refering to the animal becoming pregnant by a human? Could anyone possibly be stupid enough not to realize this is genetically impossible? If anyone could, I would expect it to be someone like you.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 05:41:24 PMOk no offense doggonit, but your kinda gettin annoying! Your ramblings are making no sense. And you find "gettin a pinky" repulsive, but not any of what you are talkin about? That's just wrong!
Posted 01/30/2010 at 10:05:50 PMand boring. Loser with a capital L.
Posted 01/30/2010 at 10:29:43 PMdoggonnit,
Posted 01/31/2010 at 04:54:42 AMYou are so intensely full of shit. You realize that you have written a chronolgy of a term that can be disproved by opening up a "Mother Goose" book of nursery rhymes? (which dates back to the middle ages) Please keep deluding yourself that we are going to believe your cock/farmer story. The actual truth (that I'm sure everyone knows) is that the slang term "cock" would have come from the term "cock" b/c it was first used to refer to a male chicken (b/c of the sound it makes when it crows in the morning-"cock-a-doodle doo") In the animal world there is the strongest of all the males who goes around doing all the females (thus the term pecking order then you get pecker.) The word cock was not first used for penis and THEN given used for naming a chicken, give me a break. Obviously everyone knows about the dog/bitch connection. Are you saying that the human slang description "bitch" came first and then they used it as the classifying name for a female dog? So what animal is or will be a "fucker", "dork" "doofus", "shithead"?
doggonnit,
Posted 01/31/2010 at 05:02:17 AMAnd the origional "Glasscock" comes from "Glascote" a parish in England (most surnames come from towns, not sexual exploitations of animals) and then was translated "Glasscock" b/c it was taken by the scottish and is just ending in "cock" b/c of the different language.
doggonnit (seth, igger)
Posted 01/31/2010 at 05:19:19 AMYou already wrote that USMC impersonation. You might want to wait until the 18 drinks and all the pot wears off so you can read better.
You people say what ever you want, that's your business. I wish you people realized how revolting you sound to other people. You may or may not know? People that use knives and forks at meals, they wear shoes in the grocery store, they put their teeth in before they go to their kids open house for their school. Most important they don't abuse small animals and babies. Some of you should try it.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 05:29:56 AMGood to know that we have marines defending our country who are into jacking their dogs off. Awesome. The "big deal" is that first of all, it disgusts the rest of us who aren't abnormal, and secondly, it encompasses a lot more than masturbating an animal. The last thing is it's a good way to spread disease.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 11:10:29 AMWe have gone way too far from the morals this country was started on
Posted 01/31/2010 at 12:34:52 PMBestiality was very common in ancient Greece.
It amazes me that people can be arrested for having sex with an animal, which most of the time doesn't harm the animal, yet its okay to torture and slaughter animals in factory farms. Don't get me wrong, I think that having sex with an animal is really gross, but as long as it does not harm the animal, then the law should not be involved. Of course in this case the guy raped the dog and hurt it, so it is a little different.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 03:02:40 PMSubspace YOU amaze me, considering a.) we are obviously not in ancient Greece and B.) you can't go around raping people's dog's. If you can't go around kicking them or stealing them You certanily can't go around sticking your man part's in them by force!!!!
Posted 01/31/2010 at 03:39:45 PMESG, don't get the wrong idea, I would never want to have sex with an animal. To me that is just "disgusting", but if someone wants to have sex with an animal, and the animal doesn't seem to mind, it would not physically harm the animal, and the animal belongs to them. Then I say, to each his/her own. Also it is mainly just women that have sex with animals. I was just trying to make a point though. Its considered wrong to have sex with an animal, yet it is okay to experiment on them, torture them, and slaughter them. That is just so wrong. That's why I am a vegetarian.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 03:57:07 PMOkay, so this kind of makes me giggle.
I know..I know, I'm sick and it shouldn't be funny in the least, poor doggie..
BUT
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT YOU'D SAY?
Like, really... you go in your backyard and somebody has their pants down, raping your dog.
WTF?
Posted 01/31/2010 at 07:47:55 PMI'd be at a loss for words. seriously.
Most of the time when a story is about bestiality, it involves a dog or a horse, animals which are not livestock raised for food. Even though these tend to be among the smartest of animals, they still aren't operating at an adult human level intellectually. It's ridiculous to even split hairs about whether it harms the animal, whether they welcome or consent to it, etc. IT SPREADS DISEASE! IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. The law should absolutely get involved whether someone else's pet is being abused, or if it was someone's own pet. People should be restricted from sinking to this level of depravity, because there will always be people on the fringe wanting to push the limitations of the law and decency, the same as they do with age of consent, until you have psychopaths raping infants.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 10:28:29 PMRachel, most people would do exactly what this guy's neighbor did - attack them! Because the gut instinct reaction of a healthy person is to be horrified and irate that someone is humiliating and taking advantage of your pet.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 10:29:53 PMThis logic totally does not hold up: "I am against animall cruelty, but I make no disctinctions whatsoever about what form of bestiality should be illegal, other than to subjectively say "if it doesn't seem to harm the animal." So, you think the law should be written to only intervene if it is first proved the animal is being harmed AND didn't enjoy it, even though you would never be able to prove that the animal didn't feel any humiliation or fear of the attck. We have to wait until an animal is ripped apart by a man and ONLY THEN get the law involved? Be a vegetarian. Encourage others to stop eating meat. But let them do whatever they want to their own pets? I don't know where in the world you get this idea that most bestiality perpetrators are women, but I think you are patently wrong on that.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 10:35:07 PMSubspace,
"Also it is just mainly women who have sex with animals."
Are you refering to "acient greece" or now or what cause the story is about a guy who RAPED a dog. And there was also a story on this site a month or so ago about a guy doing a horse, so I'm gonna go with more guys do it than women. And how do you know that it doesn't hurt the animal? Do you speak animal? Cause when my parents dogs used to "go at it" our female would yelp the whole time. So I'm gonna assume that it hurt her and if a male dog could hurt her, what would a "male human" (and I use that term VERY loosely) be like?
You say that you think this is disgusting, yet you had the whole acient greece theory of why its not. You can't say you don't agree with something, then give examples of when/why it was/is ok. You might or might not be doggonit, but that just sounds like what he/she was doing. There is a reason its against the law in most states. Its disgusting, unnatural, spreads diseases, and its nasty. What person in their right mind thinks its ok to have sex with an animal? I mean, not to come across as hateful or whatever, but what happened to going out and gettin a hooker?!?! True, its against the law, its kinda nasty, and it can spread diseases, but its a little bit more understandable than doing an animal.
Posted 01/31/2010 at 10:39:41 PMFirst of all I am not doggonit. In fact when I did my first post on this thread I didn't even know about the stuff that he had said.
Second of all research does show that more women engage in bestiality than men because more women tend to see animals as people emotionally.
Third I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of modern society. Its okay for people to eat pigs and other animals that have been tortured their whole lives through factory farming. Yet somebody just happens to stick their penis in a dog or horse and they go to jail. If you eat meat you are worse than someone that has sex with animals. Have you ever been to a factory farm, or a laboratory where they experiment on animals. If ever you do it will make you sick. If it were up to me all killing of animals would be brought to an end.
Make no mistake, I see it as disgusting, but I am not going to condemn someone for having sex with an animal when the whole of human society engages in mass animal slaughter and torture of animals. Also make no mistake there is nothing unnatural about it. For example, if a female who is on her period swims with a dolphin it will try to have sex with her. And if you take a male chimpanzee who has been raised in captivity he will masturbate to the picture of a naked human female. We are animals too, just like every other animal on the planet. The only difference is that we are smarter and curler than any other animal.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 05:26:41 AMAlso in ancient Greece it was mainly women that engaged in having sex with animals.
Also to you said that no one in their right mind would have sex with an animal, which is probably true. That is why I don't judge the person because they probably have serious social and mental problems.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 05:44:30 AMIt comes down to this.
Don't condemn someone for having sex with an animal, if you eat meat. Because if you do eat meat you support animal cruelty.
Also, dogs have sex all the time, I don't think that they are going to make that much distinction between a person and a dog. In fact when a dog lives with a person the dog typically sees its owner as the dominate dog. Therefore in its mind it sees its owner as having the right to have sex with it.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 06:04:21 AMSubspace,
I am so tired of people using the whole "if you eat meat your no better than this guy" crap that is being force-fed down our throats everytime there is a case of animal abuse or beastality. I was raised around farms and not ALL places abuse or torture animals. Just like not all people who were abused as children abuse their own children. Or people who had adicts for parents grow up to be adicts. I was abused my biological father and both my step-dad and biological father are adicts (although my step-dad, or dad as I call him, has been in recovery for over 3 years now) and I do not abuse my daughter nor have I ever done drugs. You can't lump everything together. There is a difference between animal abuse and raising animals for food. For thousands of years that is how people survived. They raised animals for food, not pets. Or they went out and hunted for their meat. Things are no different now than they were then. Well, with the exception that you can walk into any grocery store and buy meat. There are some places that abuse and/or torture animals and those places should be shut down. But what exactly is your definition of abuse and torture? They are feed and watered. They have the shelter needed. I mean, those animals are treated better than some peoples pets. I guess if you thought it was abuse and torture to be raised for food, than yea I might see your point.
I'm sorry, but I was raised to eat meat. I saw and heard about animals gettin butchered for our food. I will never buy into the whole its abuse or whatever that people like you try to feed me. As a farm girl I see nothing wrong with having a cow, chicken, pig, or whatever else for food.
My husband and mom work for the same feed company (he a driver, she a dispatcher) and my dad works for a different one. And I'm sorry, but if comes down to their job and not eating meat, I'm gonna go with my family keeps their jobs. All you people who want us to stop eating meat because you don't like it need to remember the thousands of people who are involved in that industry. Does that mean the bad places need to stay in business? No. But what about the good ones? The ones that don't abuse or torture the animals before they are slaughtered? What about those places? And not everyplace uses inhumane ways of killing the animals. Actually some places have very humane ways of killing them. And I don't know what farms or feedlots you have been to, but all the ones I have been to have more rules regarding the safety of the livestock than they do the workers. My husband worked for the local meat packing plant bringing in cows and often went on pig runs. They couldn't kick, hit, or harm the animals in any way. Even if they were charging. And the pigs? We took a load from texas to nebraska and had to stop every 2 hours to spray them with water and had to lay down hay for them so they wouldn't get worked up.
And the labs? Yea they are horrible, I will give you that. I make sure things I buy say they weren't tested on animals. I actually think we should be using people, you know the scum of the earth (like molesters, murderers, those kinds) since they are "people" and that way they could pay back society, but that's only a dream.
Funny, though, that you give those two examples, but not wearing fur. I mean, to me that's worse than killing animals for food. That's just killing them so some madison avenue witch can look and/or seem cool, no other reason.
I guess if your raised around farms/livestock, you think differently. There are animals for food and then animals for pets. I'm a proud meat eater and animal lover. I will never stop eating meat unless its outlawed by the goverment, and even then I would probably find meat and eat it.
Also, where exactly did you do your research for the whole "more women are into beastality than men" crap? Its cause we think of animals more emotionally? Are you serious? Where did you find that crap? Its not just women who think of their pets as people. I actually learned that from my dad, not my mom. She likes animals, but not as much as my dad and I do.
This guy raped a dog. There is nothing right about him. He is a complete sicko who needs a very extensive pshyc evaluation.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 06:42:04 AMAnimals that are killed for food should have the same rights as animals that are kept as pets.
People in the past did not have a choice about eatting meat or not, that was their only source of protin, but now we have choice.
I am against killing animals for furs too.
I read about women liking animals sexually more than men in a book on sexuality which I got from a professor that taught a class on human sexuality at a university.
People that work in the meat industry need to get new jobs. In fact in another 15 years are so the livestock industry will be no more. Scientist are now learning ways to grow meat in the laboratory. Meat completely by itself without being connected to a brain or nervous system, or any other organs for that matter. I would eat that kind of meat because no suffering was involved.
You can say what you want too, but animals suffer in those places.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 07:34:05 AMI don't eat mammals, and for years I didn't even eat poultry, but I think it's a silly and illogical comparison. It takes real effort to get the amount of protein you need out of nuts and beans and vegetables. Animals don't need to be raised inhumanely. The slaughtering is sad, but it isn't the same as exploiting an animal for your sexual gratification. A dog's body is not compatible with a man's. I am certain it would inflict pain, but it's disgusting to even imagine. HOw you could not have a gag reflex to it and just intrinsically know it is wrong is beyond me.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 05:37:06 PMAlso, I read about that synthetic or petrie dish raised meat and I find it disgusting. I would never touch it, the same way I wouldn't drink milk form a cloned cow. I exclusively buy from dairies that don't use cloned cow milk. It's an awful idea. I'm also way not into dictating how other people should regulate their diet. I am against factory farming, but just as much for environmental reasons. The way our great grandparents would get their meat from a local farm seems much closer to nature to me.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 05:41:29 PMDon't criticize me J, I unlike most people have a gag reflex to the death penalty and abortion, and intrinsically know that they are wrong. What this story makes me feel is pity for that poor man. If it were proven to me that a man having sex with a dog causes it pain then I would be very against it, but given that a dogs penis is longer usually than a mans I just don't believe that it causes a female dog pain. Plus I think that if the dog were in a lot of pain it would try to bit the person. Yes I find people having sex with animals to be disgusting, but that does not mean that I think that it is wrong. I find the thought of my parents having sex to be disgusting, but I don't think that them having sex is wrong.
You are also right when you say that slaughtering animals is not the same thing as using them for sexual gratification. Slaughtering animals is much worse. Don't condemn this guy when you are supporting something much worse. That is the whole point I have been trying to make.
Also synthetic meat is the way of the future, how do you think that they are going to feed people during long space voyages in the future.
This is all I am going to say on the matter.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 07:39:10 PMSubspace your wrong men have more sex with animal than women.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 08:45:27 PMThe Kinsey reports controversially rated the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women. Marie is right
i hate to be wrong, but I went and checked out what you said. And you are right. More males do have sex with animals than females.
Sorry for the incorrect information.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 09:25:55 PMHell, it's okay I don't know why anyone would be attracked to a dog. Everyone has the right to their own opinions. My opinion is people that do this to animals really should get some help for themselves. If anyone touched my animals like he did and I caught him, I would flip out. I would call 911, animal rights, the neighbors, my priest.
Posted 02/01/2010 at 09:54:30 PMSo, was he like in the guys backyard or something? I mean, he didnt see him raping him before he left - or was the guy waiting for the guy to get home and leave so he can start? Or did the guy find the dog, and decide it was his treat for returning her? I dont know why that gets me, its just a bizzare event. Either way its beyond disgusting and perverse. I cant believe he didn't stop when the owner caught him, how sick can you be?
Posted 02/01/2010 at 10:10:21 PMSubspace, the point I am making is that animals being slaughtered to feed people is a necessity. I can relate to your perspective that there are other ways to get protein, but as I said, it is complicated to do and if you're poor, a hamburger is a much faster and cheaper way to get that protein than any other. Dairy is another way to get a much larger quantity of protein that you would have eat a ton of other stuff to get. When you think about the fact that a human male needs something like 55 grams a day, and peanut butter is what, like 4 per serving? So, until there is some space meat available to the masses, raising livestock for food is a "necessary evil." Fucking animals is not. Also, I have a 70 lb dog who is constantly getting aroused, as embarrassing as that is, so I'm unfortunately all too aware of how much smaller even a medium to large size dog's is. I don't think there's any comparison. But I've also stood behind the idea that even if the animal shows signs of getting pleasure out of it, that doesn't make it right. The fact that the majority of people do find it repulsive is a sign. The same way that you can think the idea of your parents having sex is gross but respect their obvious need to do it, whereas YOU having sex with them is not only disgusting, you wouldn't do it, and hopefully you would not uphold someone else's right to commit incest. I think you SHOULD find it wrong. What this guy did was clearly wrong. To act like he shouldn't be prosecuted for it would be very wrong.
Posted 02/02/2010 at 12:17:26 AMReminds me of a guy I knew who told me he'd sneak into a farm with some of his buds cause its cheaper than a hooker.
Posted 02/02/2010 at 12:23:40 AMHello J, sorry for the late reply.
I feel that as long as it is between two consenting adults that there is nothing wrong with incest either. I would never want to have sex with my mom, dad, brother, or sister, but I have a few male and female cousins I would love to get in bed with. It's never happened, and it's never going to happen, just because they would not be up for that, but a man can always dream. You know a lot of people see homosexuality as disgusting, but that does not make it wrong.
I still uphold that if the animal is the right size so that having sex with it would not harm it, it acts like it does not seem to mind, and the person wanting to have sex with it owns it, then there is nothing wrong with it. Its not for me, but I uphold someone else's right to engage in it.
We Libertarians believe in freedom. By the way.
Posted 02/03/2010 at 07:11:11 AMRepublicans have no heart.
Democrats have no brains.
But therein lies the problem I am referring to. Do you really want your tax dollars wasted defining each and every animal it is legal to fuck? Likewise, do you really want the burden on society of more children with birth defects whose parents can't even legally marry? That's the upshot of allowing incest between consenting adults. In reality, if it isn't rape, incest would go undetected for the most pat, but I contend that there are good reasons for both of those taboos in our society, and people ought to have the bare minimum of control over their impulses for us to progress as a civilized society.
Posted 02/03/2010 at 03:05:38 PMIf you want to get it on with your "kissing cousin," by all means, go for it. Totally legal. That's what I'm saying. The laws as they are aren't THAT difficult to abide by. Choose a new sexual partner if your preferred happens to be illegal or filthy.
Posted 02/03/2010 at 03:07:17 PMWow. Can you imagine the kind of treatment he's going to get from other inmates? No one is going to want to be his cell mate.
Posted 02/05/2010 at 08:18:54 PMThis is sick, the guy raped a dog, a 6 month old dog, which wouldn't be anywhere near sexual maturity, and probably did cause some internal harm to it, along with distressing the owner, violating laws (Bestiality is a felony in Arizona), there was possibly a public indecency charge as well, and people are like "It's better the dog than a person", here's the thing... he shouldn't be raping anything at all, human, dog, donkey, monkey, I don't freaking care, all pet owners will condemn him, and everyone who doesn't care, won't care, but for his violations, he'll do a hefty amount of time most likely, and get fined. Period. I personally think he deserves much worse than the amount of time he'll do, because unfortunately, Animal Cruelty and Public Indecency don't get you a hefty time, and while zoophilia is a felony, he'll probably be out in a year, two tops.
Posted 02/07/2010 at 01:27:41 AMFirst, to all you people who are claiming it didn't hurt the dog or how are we to know the dog felt pain since it can't talk...the article states he had scratches and claw marks all over his body including his pelvic area...that means the dog fought like hell...meaning it hurt the dog. If it hadn't hurt the dog, or the dog enjoyed it...the sicko wouldn't have claw and scratch marks all over his body.
Second, I just have to ask...why is this guy getting in trouble when there are porn movies out there of women and men having sex with animals? Why aren't the cops going after them and the people who made the films if it is so illegal? The people who make animal porn should face the same charges as this man. It's disgusting plain and simple...no matter if it is a single case (like this one) or a porn movie.
But then, in this messed-up world...I guess everyone sees a porn movie involving animal sex as ok, but having sex with your neighbor's dog is just disgusting and immoral. I don't see the difference, but of course I don't like any kind of porn so maybe I'm just being judgemental. (Note: For anyone who doesn't catch it...I am being sarcastic on that last sentence)
Posted 02/24/2010 at 12:24:48 AM