Morgan Dana Harrington: Missing Virginia Tech Student's Body Found on Farm

Sad ending to a sad story to say the least

God bless...

I would suspect someone was waiting at the bridge for "stray lambs" from the concert.

You talk to Bass and you talk to his friends and you'll find out who did it. Read the whole article from WSLS, paying special attention to the third paragraph from the bottom and tell me I'm wrong. Find him (or them) and string them up.

http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/article/property_owner_describes_finding_what_is_believed_to_be_morgan_harringtons_/77204/

The property owner who found the remains believed to be that of Morgan Harrington said no attempt was made to either bury or cover the body.

David Bass, owner of Anchorage Farm, just off Route 29 South in Albemarle County, said he was on his tractor this morning checking fences in a remote area of his 700 acre property.

He said he had not been to that part of the property since after the big snow storm in December.

Bass said what appeared to be a deer carcass caught his eye.

Only he said after getting closer he realized it was not a deer.

Bass said he did notice some black clothing on the body.

He said he could not tell if it was that of a man or woman due to the decomposition of the remains.

Bass said he last cut the grass on that part of the property in August.

He said it was only accessible by driving up his private driveway then taking several unpaved paths.

In Bass’s opinion, he could only be accessed using four wheel drive.

He said state police investigators couldn’t even get there in their vehicles, instead having to walk.

Bass said, since several friends participated in volunteer searches for Morgan Harrington, his first thought was that it might be her.

The farm is about six miles away from the campus of the University of Virginia, which is near where Harrington was last seen.

Bass said investigators were “baffled” as to how Harrington’s remains might have got there.

So sad, its just unthinkable. I am glad they found her body so that her parents can try and get some closure. My prayers and sympothy go to her family and friends. I hope they catch whomever did it. Its just really sad.

RIP TO YOU OF ALL THE METALLICA FRIENDS

Virginia Tech is a dangerous place.

So sorry for your loss. You are all in my prayers. Luv to you all. RIP, Jayne xx (WEST AUST.)

PANTERAAA!!!!!!
(she was laughing at this)

Saddest of all is that Metallica really sucks and that was the last thing she heard. I wouldn't be surprised if it was suicide influenced by the disillusionment she faced when confronting how terrible Metallica is at performing music.

It's both sad and tragic how society preys upon those who let their guard down, even if momentarily.

Our morals are questionable. Must the fear of police, justice and prosecution forever drive us to remain sane?

Why, at the slightest hint of complete anonymity are atrocities committed?

More policing on the streets is not an option. Self realization and coming a full circle with one's karmic chakra is!

Very sad story, hopefully her killer or killers are brought to justice. The place she was found does sound suspicious...but it's only speculation to say the farmer or his friends know anything more. I say let the authorities do their job.

You people with the "God Bless!" and other crap really need to STFU. Blabbering your Religion isn't helping the family of this murdered girl (yes, you know full well she was raped then killed....)

Religion=waste of time, effort, and money. Go do something constructive.

young woman, probably very naive... met someone on the net and was told to meet them/or him on the bridge, she's picked up..end of story

To 'The One and Only' .. I'm pretty sure your negative and thoughtless remarks aren't helping either. Your heartless ramblings are far from constructive.

I would like to forward my condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of this young girl. I don't know her but I have been following this story since it broke last year and I'm very saddened to hear of this ending. My thoughts and prayers are with you all. (Qld, Australia)

The One and Only.... you forgot to put prick on the end of that! Have your opinion and belief but don't comment on those of others!
What was the constructive thing you were talking about? Possibly ripping the piss out of people whose beliefs you don't understand on a comments page about a murdered girl! Very constructive!!! I take my hat off to you! You are an inspiration to us all.... I'm gonna trowl some more websites about people who met unfortunate ends and ignorantly abuse people who are trying to show empahty and support... man, my life is gonna be so great!!
(Just incase you small mind can't grasp the concept - that was sarcasm! Enjoy!)
Here endeth the lesson!

@earlybroncogirl: that's a bunch of wild speculation on your part, and it plays into the stereotypical over hyped, unfounded fear of internet predators. You watch too much TV.

Just a question for Rich. Why is Virginia Tech a dangerous place when this happened at UVA...

She goes to find a bathroom, and SECURITY WON'T LET HER BACK INTO THE CONCERT?

What utter douchebaggery, Metallica. Good job, mall cops. I hope you get sued for this one.

Take note: next time you go see this band, pee right on the floor.

Hi, I met morgan a couple years ago. She was an old roommates friend. Such a sweet sweet girl she was. Who would ever want to do such a thing to her I can't understand. Who would ever want to do such a thing to anyone in general I do not understand. Morgan the good lord was ready for you to become and angel!! Unfortuneitly it was the wrong place and wrong time for you to be on that awful bridge. I hope u were protected by God so you didn't suffer too much.. I know your in heaven watching over your strong strong amazing family. Bless them while you are up there. One day you will all be reunited. God bless Morgan and her family.

@The One And Only
I am not religious, however I do like to stick up for people that are in a low position or being mistreated.
So, how about you stop being a Tyrant forcing your intolerance on people? Do you like having a society that isn't relatively free?

its sad to know that none of this would have happened if the Yankees lost the World Series

@ Rich: This happened in Charlottesville, dipshit, not Blacksburg - several hours away from Virginia Tech.

Although this is a very sad story im sure for the most part parents had already accepted her fate and are probably getting more closure knowing for sure that shes in heaven and they can have an actual memorial/homegoing service to say there final goodbyes. I will keep the harringtons in my prayers!

Use your brain! The location of the body precludes there was a murder. Who could carry a body that far without leaving some evidence? A car or off road vehicle would have left a trail. Remember it had rained leaving non-compacted earth soft.

She had to walk into the field and die of exposure, probably the same night she disappeared. The site is only a few miles from the concert location.

There is a simple problem capable of causing a mental break that would lead to this behavior. Others have been found like this. There was a student found on a Boy Scout camp ground in Oklahoma.

The autopsy shold show 'no cause of death' to confirm this.

Student disappearances have happened like this for many years. Visit the Missing Students page at my site.

@L K Tucker

The location of the body in no way precludes this as a murder case, in fact I can think of severa lways she could have made it from the bridge where she was last seen to the field.

Let's forget the part from bridge to farm area. Fro mthere she could have

a) Gone willingly with people she met under thr use of party/bonfire into the field under her own power.

b) She could have been carried by one or more assailants/kidnappers

c) A vehicle could have been used such as an ATV/4 wheeler

d) A simple litter could have been used to drag her body

e) She could have been forced to walk to her own death and final resting place at gunpoint.

All of the above are possible so your point is baseless.

Check the security officers that won't let her back in.

I cannot for the life of me understand some of the idiots who comment on the girls death! Now i am a parent of 2 and when my kids grow up, imagine how i would react to finding out one of them had said " this would not have happened if the yankees had one the world series " Your mum and dad must be very proud to have brought such a total dipshit into this world! As for some of the other clowns comments.... need i go on,, Grow up you twats!!! Metallica fans in scotland share their support for the family at this hard time.

Ok, the part of the story about not being able to get back in makes little sense to me. I haven't been to this particular arena, but of all the other places that I have seen performances, I have never seen the restrooms outside of the arena where the event is taking place. In other words, I have never seen a place where you would need you ticket to get back in after using the restroom. That would mean that the guards would be busy all night letting the beer drinkers visit the bathrooms often. I maybe could buy this story if she actually left the area to go smoke or something else, but just for the restroom? Doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

If this is what to expect from living life to its fullest, its no wonder a lot of people are shut ins now.

As for piecing this together, the facts have been misleading if not contradicting to others statements (her friends), hopefully the coroners can identify the cause of death and from there carry out the necessary actions. As for now, speculating on whether or not it was murder is a little too macabre, how about just being thankful that her physical body was found and that she will have a proper burial...unlike a lot of missing teens in the U.S of A.

If I were that security guard who didn't let her back in, I would feel a bit responsible for her death due to the fact she would still be alive if he had kept her safe inside the venue.

Jeff, If you leave any venue without a ticket, it is standard protocol to not be let back in. Besides, we have no proof that she even tried to go back inside. All we have are her "friends" word and that is questionable at best. As far as the security guards, they may feel guilty, as many people tend to blame themselves for someone's death, but they weren't at fault simply because they were doing their job.

My heart goes out to her parents. This had to be a miserable 3 and a half months, and the misery has just begun. I pray that what happened to this beautiful young lady will come out and whatever monster did this is brought to justice. The world we live in has so many evils in it, and I am so sorry that one has done this to their family.

It isn't securities fault for not allowing her back in the concert - thats standard protocal, I know. But a new system has to be developed to keep this from happening again. I'm not sure what, or how, but pleanty of people cannot get back in to concerts because of those who try to sneak in or beat the systems by giving away ticket stubs- maybe we need to get rid of paper tickets all together. I just wish she would have stayed by the gate and waited for her friends. =(

Sorry but if it were me that was the security guard I would feel responsible.

Jeff, if it is true that they didn't let her back inside, then I'm sure they do feel some kind of responsibility. It really isn't uncommon to feel guilt for someone's untimely death.

I still wonder what drew her outside the arena without a friend by her side. It is rare that a girl this age goes to the bathroom alone, much less to the parking lot to smoke or whatever. In general, something seems fishy about the whole thing and her friends haven't provided much detail either. I sure hope the family gets some closure and the LE can get some leads.

The security at these venues is not Metallica's security, at least the guards at the doors aren't. And why would she go outside to use the bathroom anyway. I've been to many concerts and sporting events and NONE of them let you back in without a ticket. So stop blaming Metallica and their security. Also, to the asshole that posted a comment as "Jesus"... show a little respect and class and keep your opinion of Metallica to yourself. You have some nerve making a "joke" about her commiting suicide. She loved the band and they have done nothing but support her and her family through this. Besides, she left before they even hit the stage. Giant Bag of Douche.

I'm not blaming anyone I'm saying if I were the security guard I would feel responsible. I meaning ME, myself, you know I.

Hey ben you faggot, NEWS FLASH, metallica does suck horribly! And fuck the guards for not letting her back in, if they would have then she wouldn't be dead right now.

Also not only does their music suck ass, but they were the first ones trying to sue their fans over downloading their songs. They, more than anyone should be happy people even want to listen to their shitty music bad enough to go through the trouble of downloading it.

So pull your head out of your ass next time before responding, DOUCHEBAG.

The One And Only
how about you stop being a Tyrant forcing your intolerance on people? Do you like having a society that isn't relatively free?

Liberals crack me up with their double standards! Every word you write is Tyrannical and Intolerant! SOOO....STFU!

Tony...you obviously don't watch TV...flaming not necessary...hoping you don't hide behind your puter if my theory does happen to be what occurred and you are able to say..."sorry for bein an A-HOLE" to a complete stranger

"One life...Live it"

EBG

Poor sweet girl... May she rest in peace. At least her parents and friends now have closure. I have an 18 year old daughter, and the idea of her falling victim like this alone and scared just breaks my heart.

i guess she forgot to pay the toll to the troll

the police need to investigate the two shifflett brothers from crozet Harlen and carl known as buster who did 16 years in prison on a murder charge also corey moon should be checked out in the mean time i'll pray for morgans family and hope an arrest is made soon

Stop being negative and making assumptions in your head. Let this girl rest in peace.

PS It was Larz Ulrich who was being a total whining baby about downloading there music. Metallica was best with Cliff, they're not the same band anymore but they still deserve respect.

Today on CNN with Jane Velez-Mitchell has this story on right now as I am typing. Her Dad believes that Morgan was dead before the concert was over. Her bodies remains were exposed from the elements for months. He said, "because of the conditions of her remains she had been their for months and months." Law enforcement has no leads. Metallica put up $100.??? for any information leading to the arrest of the person/person's who murdered Morgan.

This is so sad. I understand the policy of no reentry - but really ... It's an arena for VT ...and she was a girl by herself. Come on!! It had to be obvious she didn't know! Someone was being a jackass jerk (especially if she showed a tix!) - the worst case would be she was lying and 1 girl sneaks into a concert. Whoopee do. I hope it haunts that person forever. And how irresponsible of them to have no cameras and no guards at the door WARNING of no re-entry. What kind of school is that! I will absoultely NOT be considering that school for my kids - EVER !! Yikes!

My heart just breaks for Morgan and her family. Such a tragic and senseless act. People are not 'there' for the taking. Yes, she should have been allowed back in the venue. Yes, she should not have gone anywhere without a friend. In an instant, many lives have been changed and rearranged forever. My firstborn daughter, Heather Danyelle Teague, has been missing since August 26, 1995. www.WhereIsHeatherTeague.com
Heather was seen thru a telescope from across the river in Indiana being dragged into the woods in broad daylight by a wealthy businessman who has changed his story since her 'abduction'. Heather was just lying in the sun in a public place. It is the not knowing that is unmerciful. What has happened to Morgan Dana Harrington is a shame and a disgrace. I am so thankful she has been found, although I was sure hoping and praying for a different outcome. May God comfort this family at this time.

Rich said:

Virginia Tech is a dangerous place.
Posted 01/27/2010 at 11:07:29 PM
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She did not go missing at or near Virginia Tech.

vtec just kicked in yo

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RIP Morgan Dana Harrington. My condolences to your friends and family. If this was a murder, what was the point? What is the killer getting out of this? NOTHING! Also, it is kind of sad that this article is about someone being dead, and anti Metallica fans still need to make their post about how much "Metallica sucks". Napster was ten years ago, get over it. You want to state your opinion on Metallica sucking, then do it on a Metallica sucks page.

Id say someone was quite familiar with the area, maybe check some neighbors or locals out backround checks etc..wow im good!

Finding the body in remote location tells me one thing a hired ranch hand is the murder. I would also take background check on farm owner himself .Check farm owner if he hired any farm hands these are hide outs for sex offenders. This will be solved case.

Finding the body in remote location tells me one thing a hired ranch hand is the murder. I would also take background check on farm owner himself .Check farm owner if he hired any farm hands these are hide outs for sex offenders. This will be solved case.

May God give peace and justice to Missy's family. Such a beautiful girl with so much ahead of her.

They're pretty f.u.cked up in Virginia don't they?I've seen at least 3 notes about psychos killing people in Va on the last couple of weeks..

It's kinda screwed up that people are pointing fingers at the shifflet brothers from Crozet. he done is crime and his time leave that mans life alone. GET TO KNOW THEM BEFORE YOU JUDGE THEM..... REAMAMBER THAT GODS THE ONLY ONE THAT AND JUDGE US..

It's kinda screwed up that people are pointing fingers and blameing the shifflet brothers from Crozet. for something that no one know if they did it... Yes everyone makes mistakes in their life .. and yes Buster made a mistake when he was younger. and he paied for it... he spent half his life in perison. so dont judge them . for what they done. ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE THEM... so think before you speek or type. what u say can get someone else hurt... that dont need to be hurt . remeber they have family that love them... GOD BLESS HE HARRINGTON FAMILY FOR THEIR LOSS... N GOD BLESS THE SHIFFLET FAMILY FOR SOMETHING IF THEY DIDNT DO IT... yes i know Buster and Harlen shifflet and i dont think they would do it . they got Familys too.........

~RED~

God bless, Morgan. What a horrible story. I have two daughters of my own and am scared every day. I hope they find the killer(s) and throw him into a Brazen Bull. Bastard.

I AGREE WITH VERY SAD I HAVE A DAUGHTER TOO I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY DO FIND THE KILLER OR KILLERS AND MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY DONE TO MORGAN AND HER FAMILY.... BUT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT POINT FINGERS OR BELAME PEOPLE FOR THINGS THEY DONT KNOW FORSURE LIKE BUSTER AND HARLEN SHIFFLET... ONLY GOD AND MORGAN AND WHOEVER DID DO IT REALY KNOWS WHAT HAPPEN TO THAT GIRL THAT NIGHT. ALL I ASK IS FOR GOD TO BLESS MORGAN AND HERE FAMLIY. AND FOR WHOEVER DID THIS TO MORGAN AND HERE FAMLIY COME FORWORD AND TELL THE TRUE GOD KNOWS WHO THEY ARE AGAIN GOD BLESS MORGAN AND HER FAMLIY

Bigger bladder, you are an idiot. If you think the band made a decision not to let her back in, you are a fool. The security work for the venue. Yes, the band have their own security, but not to work the doors! Stupid comments like that don't help. Keep quiet.

I don't know how parents of missing children function. They'd have to put me in a padded room.

I am very saddened to hear of the sad news. The person by the name of Jesus is a total creep. That is a really rude thing to say. I am sure she was in peace to hear Metallica play. Jesus, you should be ashamed of yourself.

And on another note, venues need to change their policy about re entry. That is a bunch of bs. Think about the safety of people having to stand outside when you refuse to let them back in, especially a young woman. VENUES, CHANGE YOUR POLICY~

Let's just call it. Darwin is disproved. Through social evolution, this rightfully shouldn't have happened. She shouldn't have gone to the bathroom alone, she shouldn't have gone outside, she shouldn't have walked by herself on the roadside. We hear it on T.V., we read it in the news, we are told it by our parents, our relatives and our friends. "Don't put yourself in that position." "Don't go there alone." "Don't do that." "Don't make yourself a victim."
And still, after thousands of years of 'civilization', women continue to blatantly ignore all warnings. They continue to be raped. They continue to be beat. They continue to be killed. They continue to ignore common sense for of their narrow-mindedness they are ruled.

Ok the concert was in charlottesville, va where UVA is NOT VT.
2. she left to go outside to have a cigarrette and then tried to get back in and they wouldnt let her bc its a commonly known rule that once you leave you cannot re-enter

I live in charlottesville and feel very sorry for morgan, her friends and her family. RIP MORGAN 241!

@woman will never learn. What a simple minded narrow veiw. So it is probably all this childs fault she was murdered is that your over all veiw? If she was, is that your opinion? According to you woman can't walk, use the bathroom , or basically breathe without willingly allowing herself to be killed and potentially raped and god knows what???WTF u say "woman keep getting raped" like you are saying woman keep chewing gum. As if these woman walk out to be accosted or hurt? HELLO?! I should be allowed to walk out the godamn road without some Psycho sociopathic ass hole thinking I am his for the picking!!!!And being cautious is not a preventitive for rape merely a tool used to function in the real world. u talk like woman should just never leave the house!Please!

I'm with ele on this, VENUES, CHANGE YOUR POLICY ~.

What happen to chivalry, what happen to looking out for a girl's safety? Regardless if a women can take care of herself, this girl couldn't so the Venue should have had some responsibility to look out for her due to the reason she was there because they were holding a concert, she wouldn't have been there otherwise. It's terrible that they can charge you so much money for a ticket, then get out of having to give you all of what you payed for because you left the building for a second.

TO THE PERSON OR PERSONS WHO DID THIS TO MORGAN.ENJOY THE REST OF YOU DAYS ON EARTH.HELL AWAITS FOR YOUR ARRIVAL..

I wonder how many of you are parents that have commented here. My heart goes out to the family. The loss of a child brings a lifetime of sadness. RIP sweet girl x x x
USMC - ppl like u should be permanently banned from internet....u say that purely for a reaction im sure....but what a sick puppy you are. My skin crawls at the thought of how you must get your kicks out of life.

To all the fools blaming Metallica and making anti-Metallica comments..get a life. This isn't the place for that. It's not their fault. I would blame the security guy who wouldn't let her back in. If u have ticket for an event, then u should be allowed back in..apparently she went out for a smoke. What do they want her to do..smoke in the bathroom? Anyhow..my condolences go out to her family and friends. And don't blame the victim either...blame the bastard who killed her. I usually don't pay attention to missing person's reports..but since I went to the Metallica show the night after this one, I feel like it hits me personally. People are sick in this world. RIP Morgan.

And to the liberals fools spouting their anti-religion crap..this isn't the place for it either. People r so stupid and rude. I hate when pple use message boards for going off topic and start argueing religion and politics over a girl's death. I can't stand that.

Rest in peace angel ...much love

R.I.P Morgan and her Family . how could someone do some sick shit to someone that just went to smoke or whatever she was doing.... who ever did this shyt will have to BIG price to pay later on in life carma is a B.I.T.C.H.. and thiers is comeing to them.... god bless the harrington family and Freinds....

....spongebob...

Nothing is conclusively know about Morgan's trip to the concert or the circumstances of her death. Why attack the Metallica, the security at the arena, her friends or the people of the area where she was found? It's all speculation at this point. As for references to God, people are free in this country to make any references we wish, thanks to this country being founded on Godly/Judeo-Christian principles, "In God We Trust." God Bless the Harrington Family, Friends and Community. My deepest condolences for your lost.

I can't believe the person "Women will never learn" a few posts above even said that! What if it were your daughter, sister, or mother? Would it be her fault for her lack of common sense, as you put it? What is wrong with you?

Please......let's not start sounding like the AOL message boards with everyone screaming profanities, spewing religion-all grammatically challenged. Can't we just have a respectful, interesting conversation? Obviously, this is a terrible tragedy, and I've expressed some suspicions that seemed odd/offensive,and I apologized in advance for the things that were bothering me about this case.
Sooo...does anyone else agree with me that this family is not exactly as portrayed? Alittle too perfect, in my opinion. Dan seemed controlling from the start-incredulous right after this happened that she might have a boyfriend. Her brother looks the polar opposite of Morgan (no offense!)
Morgan has been described as the all-American girl who loved rock bands: when you love Metallica, etc. you've got to have a bit of a let's say.."spirited wild streak." When her father is a psychiatrist and made it clear that he had access to her computer info-a 20 year old would be ok with that? Her mom seems softspoken, but vascillates between "sharing the air" with Morgan's friends to describing Morgan's beautiful bones to a morbid statement regarding her "empty orbital eyesockets." Where are these friends? Where are they and why aren't they sharing info re alcohol/Morgan's bleeding cut and aggressing behavior.?
I am NOT acusing the parents-what I AM doing is trying to start a nonconfrontational diaglogue. Does anyone at all agree with me that the Harrington's description of life at home might be abit too.....?

P.s.i. Profiling
Morgan Dana Harrington Case
Charlottesville V.A.
October 17th 2009
Jones Paul Arena:
Re: Abduction
Kevingmcneill@gmail.com
Kevin G. McNeill




I have a certain responsibility to come forward strongly concerning Morgan’s disappearance. Some of what I was seeing has turned out to be correct.

I have attempted to come forward to the F.B.I. The Virginia State Police, The Local Media, The Harrington Family, The National Media, Opra Winfrey, and Dr. Phil, Morgan’s brother, Mr. Harrington, everyone on planet earth besides me who could benefit from knowing these fact’s.

I have seen, as far back as December 1st 2009: That she had been drugged, abducted, repeatedly raped by several men and killed, by strangulation. Then dumped in a farmed field, on the edge of a wooded area. Near what I would consider a hilly flood plain or an area that would have been considered the edge of someone’s property.

“Without even an e-mail back from anyone, for month’s I have known were to look for Morgan. After attempting to come forward again and again and again and again and again”!

“Yet not one of you ever contacted me in any way too assist in her recovery!”

“I feel sickened! And saddened! That I have been sitting on, critical Information regarding her case, including her body’s location. Yet No One, reputable has contacted me at all. Except some detective looking for her necklace and not her! I was off on the area, but everything else I was seeing was dead on”.

I saw her somewhere near one of the perpetrators homes, or an area they had frequented or had once lived in. They had connections to the area through association. They may have grown up in the area. I am seeing that they may at one time have a connection to the farm where she was found, they may have swam their as children. They would have fished their somewhere in that area. I see that the area is no longer used for that purpose because of pollution. And may not be remembered as a spot to do this because of that reason.

I saw that she had been dumped in that area by three men. Using a truck, it may be a red truck. I do not know if it would even be their truck. I saw that they did this by some type of home. I felt that they chose the site because it was seldom frequented and they felt that decomposition would destroy any D.N.A evidences. They have done some type of travel in that area as children.

They may have a connection to this property they decided to leave it on the edge of familiar property. If ever found it could be dismissed as being found by accident, if ever it was found. I saw that it would be claimed that it was on the,”Edge” of an unfrequented area. I saw that if I just had been asked to find her in the area, that it would only take a police dog to track the horrible smell.

Morgan’s body was returned to her family around the date of her mother’s birthday! Investigators should be going nuts! Realizing the personal nature of this crime. Why would she be,”RETURNED” around her mother’s birth day, “By Accident”!

I saw that at least on the part of those that actually drove her away that evening that they were indeed traveling to the area that night specifically to be a part of the open air Drug market in the parking lot of the stadium.

I saw young Morgan lead outside by one familiar gentleman, under the guise of having a,”puff”. She was trying to quit, somehow the excitement of the concert lead her out for a smoke. Unfortunately, it would turn out to be a fatal addiction.

She knew this man she trusted him. She may have had several e-mail contacts with this man. He was popular somewhat, very humorous and attractive. He may have had connections in the arena and promised or alluded to her that they could regain entrance after leaving. She went outside where I see not just one man but up to five other men and two women engage her.

The storyline of it is that the one man who led her out had a drug connection. A younger girl much younger had apparently approached him earlier with an offer of drug sales over in the Rv Park.

When Morgan and this younger man went outside they ran into another group of young men, I am seeing three of them. This there were also interested in drugs. Along with this younger woman they approached the Rv Park.

There were two other men and an older lady in the same RV that the younger girl had just come out of. It would seem to me that the older pair was using the younger pair to contact individuals who were looking for drugs in the parking lot. I do not see the older pair ever leaving the RV at all or ever getting out of the car.

The older pair are just using the younger pair to corral others to the RV area for a quick drug sale. I see that the young men the group of three that approached Morgan were of malicious intent. The younger man she came out of the arena with didn’t seem to be aware of this at first. The three young men were the originators of what I would call the attack against Morgan, at least at the level of intention.

These three young boys that I am seeing one would be considered the Alpha male of the group. He is indeed attractive; a sport’s man and well to do. Not a lowlife or anything like that he seems studious so I would call him a student. Morgan seems to know him or know of him. I would consider him a protégé of the older man that I have not discussed who is not on the scene at the time of Morgan’s disappearance.

These younger boys seem to have a dark interest in Morgan herself for some time before these events. This is not a random attack; it may have been a random opportunity. I see that there had been some interest in capturing Morgan for some time. For over three years in my estimation a plan had been building against her.

I see that this older man who is not on the scene at all. Was the real originator of this plot? He would be seen to have been connected to or in association with Mr. Harrington himself at one time or another in the past. Sometime between the years of 1999- 2004, either through work business or some type of association that lead to a rift between the two men.

This man if investigated thoroughly would be found to be sexually perverse. He may made advances towards one of the younger men connected with these crimes as a youth. He has in his possession a large amount of pornography. Under closer examination he may be considered a pedophile. I saw that he had a deep and long standing hatred towards Mr. Harrington for some unknown reason.

That he would have some financial wealth. That he had a connection to breeding and farming. He may sport expensive things and have strange close relationships with those in his area whom I would consider much younger than himself. He has connections in the community. He would be considered well to do even though he had been having financial problems of late connected to his agricultural endeavors.

Apparently at least one of the three malicious boys was connected to this older man who was indeed targeting, Morgan. They contacted this older man to request instructions or permission to move forward against Morgan. This older mad gave them the green light. It is possible that there was some sort of initiation energy surrounding her capture.

It seems that these younger boys live their lives under a cloak of protection. They have around them the energy of, “We can do anything we want and get away with it as long as we have permission!” After receiving permission to move forward with their plot against, Morgan. The decision was made by the young boys to include the older male driver in the RV to inform him of their plot and possibly pay him for his assistance in it. They arranged to receive a purchase of drugs from the people in the car. At some point or in some way, these drugs or possibly the cigarette they intended to share with Morgan were laced with P.C.P.

The group of youngsters without the two adults seems to move off to an area where they could take the drugs without being noticed. Upon returning to the original area after they were done their seems to be multiple attempts to return to the concert by Morgan with no success. I believe the young group at least Morgan herself. Was very distraught about missing or not being able to return to the concert. This may have lead to her smoking, this may have lead to a second attempts to drug young Mrs. Harrington.

I see her being set up by at least four men. Who are accomplices by two women one younger and one older. I see that the young men had a car and the group in the RV had a car. For some reason they delayed outside the arena for some time. This is where Morgan at least unconsciously made several attempts to.

1. Get arrested.
2. Gain the attention of larger protective males to escape.
3. Possibly attempted to hitch her way to safety.
4. May have attempted to create a scene with the perpetrators.
5. Called her friends in an attempt to subliminally scare them off from considering her a target.

At some level she was acting unlike herself because at some level she was starting to perceive a threat. She had been severely drugged, but may not have really connected with the truth of its effects on her. She may have been totally unaware of what she had been drugged with. Having no previous experiences with the affects of P.C.P. Morgan made many uncharacteristic advances towards others in a subliminal call for help but because of the crowd mentality at public venues such as this. Morgan’s many calls for assistance went unanswered!

Although Morgan may have tried to flag a ride in an attempt to run for her life. I am not seeing this as the exit she took from the arena. Apparently this group she had been hanging with were the people she eventually gave into for a ride. It may have been as simple as appealing to her recently drugged ego. Telling her that they were just going on a run to the liquor store or a fast food joint too get her into the RV.

I am seeing the two cars leave separately with the intention of meeting up at some separate location. I am seeing that in fact they did go to a store in the area. I am seeing that Morgan herself may have not gotten out of the car at that time. They went gone through a drive thorough or someone just hopped out then came back in.

And thats just the beginning please someone who can do something about this please contact me a.s.a.p.

Someone connected to the case!

Very sad, such a tragjety noone should face this bullshit. Once again I say, there is some fucked up people in this world. Just too bad this happened during a metallica concert, thats not what the music is about.. RIP Morgan.

Kevin, nice how your psychic visions suddenly changed after Morgan was found. Does that mean you no longer think the Miller family took her to Texas? Please stop wasting our time and more importantly the investigators time. They could have this solved if people would stop sending in tips their dog gave them.

Morgans killer will be brought to justice. Love you Harringtons. RIP Morgan. 241

9th February, Tuesday 2010 7:30 PM
Morgan speaks out:
Concerning Justice,
Her Attackers and Her Case:

Morgan- There is allot of confusion on the human side of the veil of life and death concerning the application of divine justice. Kevin has asked me to today specifically address your concerns.

Morgan- Concerns regarding the predators in your midst, not only in the town of Charlottesville VA, but in your schools, your halls of justice, running your police departments and most of all your governmental leadership.

Morgan- Love is life’s lesson, unfortunately, not everyone learns at the same pace. There are those around you who deify the energies that exist in opposition to divine law. They are everywhere.

Morgan- You would be shocked into a paralyzed and dysfunctional state of you could directly perceive the ones around you who live in darkness.

Morgan- Darkness is a choice to live your life disconnected from the source of divine love.

Morgan- Before you can hear what I would say next, I have some questions for you?

Morgan- What would you do if I appeared to you asking for your help, from beyond?

1. What if I told exactly who was involved, what they looked like, what they did? Where would you go?
2. Would you go to the Law Enforcement team immediately? What would you do if they did not respond?
3. What if they investigated you instead?
4. What if they were not interested?
5. What if they did not believe you?
6. What is they were not interested in capturing certain parties for reasons you were not aware of?
7. What if they were involved in hushing up the issue, involved in shutting down an investigation for political reasons?
8. What if they were involved in hushing up the issue, involved in shutting down an investigation for financial reasons?
9. What if they were involved in hushing up the issue, involved in shutting down an investigation to remove a negative image being placed on the town or region?
10. What if they were involved in hushing up the issue, involved in shutting down an investigation to remove a negative media attention?
11. What if they were involved in hushing up the issue, involved in shutting down an investigation to remove the possibility of a member of the force being involved in this crime?
12. What if a secretive and powerful agenda was playing out behind my disappearance with hidden schemes and by getting involved directly you were risking your own life?

Morgan- Maybe you would try my friends next?

1. If you saw my friends parting and living it up after my disappearance with seemingly no concern for my loss what would you think then?
2. What if you went on line and told my friends their?
3. What would you do if they kept attacking you?
4. What would you do if they didn’t believe you?
5. What would you do if they kept reporting you to the police as the perpetrator?
6. What would you do if they kept mocking and insulting you?
7. What would you do if my friends could not verify anything you said?
8. What would you do if you noticed people you saw as the perpetrator amongst my friends hiding under the guise of Morgan’s helpers?
9. What would you do if you were removed from the social media site by those same so call friends?
10. What would you do if you saw that these friends would not listen to you regarding my death, and found you distasteful, despicable or evil for shutting down hope?
11. What would you do if they treated you wrongly for attempting to share that I had contacted you?
12. What would you do if they accused you of attempting to profit from another sadness and pain?
13. What would you do what would you risk? What would you say? What would you do next, if still you meet with failure?

Morgan- Maybe at this point you would have summoned up the courage to tell my family?

1. Would you tell them on Christmas that their daughter was dead?
2. Would you tell them if you saw it that their daughter was murdered?
3. Would you tell them if you saw it that she lie like trash in a farmed field?
4. What if there were thousands of such fields around America? Where would you look?
5. What if my family refused to respond at all to your multiple addresses?
6. What would you do if your so called information was contrary to the wishes of my Family’s search to find me alive?
7. What would you do if you saw a cover up in the investigation how would you prove this to my family if they didn’t listen to you?
8. What if you saw the murders faces how would you identify them from millions of Americans without the help of an investigative team?
9. What would you do with your images of the body location if her friends and family were instant that I was still alive, and refused to, “Give up hope?”
10. What would you do if I told you that do to you getting involved the perpetrators were going to destroy the body?
11. What would you do if the perpetrators had powerful friends who could track your internet conversations?
12. What would you do if only the killers knew how close you were to them?
13. What would you do if they came after you?

Morgan- Maybe you would go to the Media as a last resort?

1. What if they did not respond?
2. What if you had no evidence only my word and your visions?
3. What if did not have the support of my family?
4. What if you did not have the assistance from investigators?
5. What if you did not have proof in your hand that was tangible, evident?
6. What would you say to the media if they refused to believe you?
7. What would you say to the media if they mocked your message?
8. What would you say when you found out from me the media was not really interested in justice of the police told them it was unnecessary?
9. What would you do if they told you to go to law enforcement where would you go having already gone there?
10. Where would you go next would you go to strangers and possibly destroy my investigation?
11. Would you post publicly bringing the killers to your door?
12. Would you post publicly making a mistrial or legal maneuvering possible in my case?
13. What if my family was falling rite into the trap set on them that killed me? Would you tell them that the people who killed me were, “helping” them achieve justice?

Morgan- What if the only party that was really concerned at all with what you were saying were the Perpetrators?

1. What if the killers started to notice you were catching on to them?
2. What would you do if they were powerful and influential people?
3. What would you do if they had friends in high places?
4. What if it only took a phone call from them to have you killed as well?
5. Would you run? What if they followed you?
6. Would you leave you family or tell your family? What if they didn’t believe you?
7. What would you do if you noticed people recognizing you knowing you but you never meet them?
8. What would you do if people were paid to stop you where would you run if law enforcement didn’t believe you?
9. Where would you go if only the killers knew how good your information was?
10. How far would you go to escape the killers after you?
11. Would you try to continue to come forward or would you run and hide?
12. Would you risk your life to save a dead person from what?
13. Would you risk your life to help those whom did not believe you anyway?
Morgan- What if all this X 100 happened to you? N

Morgan- Not day, not weeks but for month’s!

Morgan- Would you continue to transmit my,” Loving messages of hope and inspiration that did not gain you a reward or make you safe from the perpetrators who sought your own death?” Would you?

Morgan- Kevin was chosen to help me to bring Justice to this situation because he knows what justice requires. Justice requires someone impeccable, or a system willing to administer it? A person able to champion it’s cause. In this situation that would be, My Father, Dr. Harrington.

Morgan- So far in this situation, no credible source of justice has come forward to work with him! So he has kept this important information to himself!

Morgan- Justice requires one thing in my case more than anything else, the willingness of my family to allow for Kevin’s assistance! Relaying my wisdom regarding my disappearance to come forward directly to my family. So far this event has not happened it is likely it never will. So I ask again what you would do, if I came to you?

Morgan- If you were hearing me say that the investigation was being managed by the very same forces responsible for my disappearance? What would you do? Who would you go to with your visions without proof? How long would you last if the perpetrators targeted you? Where would you go if my family would not listen? At what point would you give up and walk away? One day, two days a week?

Morgan- Kevin was chosen because all of this and more would never stop him, because he loves me? And he is quite unstoppable in my regard! He would jump a million walls just to save the thought of me!

Morgan- Justice may never be served on earth to those who repeatedly raped tortured and murdered me. For those who kept me locked in their sick perverted games. Trapped and begging for my life, tormented daily, sexually abused and tortured for days on end. What would you do if you saw this happening to me for days on end? Would you have the courage to tell my story? What if that story ran in contrast to the police investigation?

Morgan- What if what I told you and want you saw were so horrible, that no one would believe you? What would you do? What could you do? Maybe you would just let it go? What would be the point of relaying the details of a crime to the people who initiated the crime themselves? Would that be considered a sane act? What would you do if this is what you saw?

Lots of damage and malacious finger pointing under the cover of doing good . The hack at B-O-C has her bunnies doing a smear job to those with certain last names ,a recently decesed sheriff,all of the girl's friends ,and some of her relatives . It is truly a moral crime the damage they are doing under the guise of self rightsness . Lots of crack pot theories and hundreds of suspects . An obsecure fire before Morgan was found still has their tongues wagging . There was a fire at McDonalds,route 29 they missed . You know Morgan's party maybe went to that McDonalds,Sheriff Morris also,the Shifle**s,students,and the BG . The french fry cook looked suspicious . He likely couldn't stand the heat in the kitchen so set fire as a cover to skip town . Not really too big of a Kroc for them to move their cheesburger .

P.S. Another suspect has also been strangely been missed by B-O-C . While including law enforcement officers and family names they have left out Rader . You know he has the same last name as the BTK Killer,is in law enforcement,has a perfect cover,yadda yadda ------oh wait now couldn't be him as he is still alive to defend himself ,and besides i need to suck up to him to get little tid bits to run my smear business .

First off the arena HAS outdoor smoking sections INSIDE the arena

Second the bathrooms are INSIDE the arena too

Third if she "phoned" her friends this would easily be confirmed YET it doesn't appear confirmed only as hearsay

Fourth a no-reentry policy is POSTED at this arena to claim she "somehow" ended up outside is bogus

Fifth a phone call from to her friends stating she is finding her own way home because she cannot re-enter and her "friends" just say cool see ya later???? nobody insisted on meeting her at one of the gates?

what kind of crap is this?

To claim there are lots of college students gone missing due to disorientation or "mental break" as one absurd poster suggested is bogus because our society has too many low-life's who PREY on people simply for the thrill.

I'm curious why her "friends" are not being investigated there are too many holes in their stories.

And I sincerely hope those who are investigating this MURDER find those who did it even with all of the diversions by those who KNEW HER.

I agree the friends I scanned were living it up! They knew what happened and were partying with absolute joy! Their is a severe corruption in that area.

A beheading.
A missing college couple.
A mass shooting.
A baby killed by her own umbilical cord.
A Cop killing himself just days before she was found.
A fire near the area she was found days after she disappeared.
Friends having a party living it up days after Morgan disappeared.

This is insane. How can some people be so cold about something like this. To all the people that are using this girls death to flame metallica, what the fuck is wrong you. Have you ever been to any concert ever. No matter what concert it is security is always gonna the exact same thing. It has nothing to do with metallica. And for whoever it was that flamed metallica sueing fans, what the fuck does that have this girls death. So what if lars or metallica did that. It plays no part in any of this you moronic fuck. And if people want to show condolences in there own religious ways what's it too you. The important thing is that they are showing love and support for the people affected by this tragedy. Get a life you fuck asses.

Dear Friends and Family of Morgan Dana Harrington:

Your public request for assistance in the desperate search for Morgan is the reason; I became involved in Morgan’s case. I have several other good reasons to be concerned or connected to what goes on in that area.

1. My Mother lives near the area.
2. My former girlfriend attended UVA.
3. I have just returned from Charlottesville myself in January of 2009.
4. Morgan was seen in Baltimore M.d. the town I was just residing in.
5. I have gifts that may or may not assist you in your search.

My many attempts to assist you in Morgan’s recovery and the quest for justice regarding her loss. Have been attacked or distorted or gone unanswered. The many people involved in Morgan’s recovery efforts have offered me, little assistance.

I have worked without ever asking for anything from any of you for over 2000 hrs on her case. I have catalogued information that could be vital to investigators. This information has been offered freely and without restriction to the few people who could use it best, the investigative team’s and Morgan’s family. As I am new and my gift stretches the boundaries of what you would call reality! I have made many missteps. I apologize if indeed anyone may have been harmed or feels unduly treated by my many attempts to discern the truth of Morgan’s whereabouts. My intentions have always been pure and my motive direct. My original goal was to find Morgan Harrington as quickly as possible. And if possible return Justice for any illegal actions that may have caused her to fall on that fateful evening of Oct 17th 2009.

Yes, I have made several errors. I doubt you could tell me with any degree of certainty what happened in your living rooms yesterday. Let alone use you mind to probe 9o days ago, in a town 3,600 miles away. Again and Again I have been correct, yet incorrect in the same moment. I am trying to assist you and anyone who cares about Morgan Dana Harrington. If any one finds my goal unethical or offensive, I do apologize. I seek only to serve her and anyone who loves her to the best of my abilities. If you don’t like me or do not agree with my assistance. Read someone else’s posts! Why attack someone helping, it is insane! The only valid reason to attack me is if you are indeed involved in this crime.

There are a growing number of people who love Morgan whom are beginning to see what I already know. That those who love Morgan Dana Harrington could use my help! As, I have been asked to help and offer my assistance concerning these events from the highest authority!

Thanks for your patience and assistance. Please contact me through my e-mail. Kevingmcneill@gmail.com.

@ Isiah and Kevin. I really have no clue what to make of you but THE MAIN REASON I think its all a bunch of either delusions or put on, is ..........your barking up the wrong tree. How many other sites have yoy posted these long winded theories, or visions? I think if you have important information you should take it to the authorities. Not keep posting it over and over on here. And furthermore if Morgan was a family member of mine I may feel a little uncomfortable with some of the stuff you've posted and wonder if its unhealthly obsession, or true vision.

Unfortunately, whenever you're involved in a story that gains national attention, all the creeps come out of the woodwork with their theories. I think the more respectful thing to do would be what a user named Toby did on another thread involving a missing family, and ask who wants to hear your "vision" and get their email address instead of posting it publicly. Often family members and friends of the victims written about on this site come here, and I would hate for you to cause the family even more pain by posting this.

If your intentions are true, Kevin, you'll do just that.

@ Kevin. Please follow mcr's advice. this is not the proper forum for what you are posting.

Not proper! An young lady was killed and you talking about whats proper. thats the problem with all of you if you do not conforont evil, it grows. You must face things or things will always get worse! Its cowardace to not see what happened to Morgan. It dishonors her loss! We must face it or it will happen again!

17 other people could die, if they are not stopped. Do you even think about the possibility that they may strike again and again and again. Should I stop trying to help just so you can get you panties out of a bunch?

The answer to that, Kevin, is YES. We already told you to stop. You're not helping us in any way. Be gone.

@ Kevin, Posting on here is not making you a hero! Again I say if you truly stand behing this stuff you ramble on and on and on about why have'nt you taken it to the authorities. Oh I forgot cause they are in on it or, oh you said they will suspect you ! Please!

K is just using creative thinking process to solve a riddle within a conundrum wrapped up in an egima. Think about all the openly thought out theories about who killed JFK . At first they were dismissed as kooky but many have gained traction via books ,movies etc over time . No one has been convicted of anything related to JFK's murder . The media wants to kill him all over again with a TV special before his 50th anniversary of coming to power .K says his intentions are honerable so leave him be or attack everyone else with a pointed finger . I personally think have some merit and feel he might be on the verge of something . BTW has anyone knowledge of any BTK Killer Rader connections ? Kevin , you got anything on that ??

Often serial rapists and murderers have a connection or are related . Hence the BTK Killer/Rader puzzle !! . There is currantly a case in Ontario of two clean cut close soul mates and college grads . They partied together in University and graduated together from a prestigeous university .One went into business the other became a high ranking military officer tapped to be one of the top four military leaders in Canada . The former is now doing life for serial rape and murder (no death penalty in Canada). The military guy impecable base commander was charged last week for serial rape and murder . Paul Bernardo and Col. Russell Williams are the culprits .

@ Frank! First of all this site is about posting your feelings, comments and theories I can understand that. He has that right. I never said he did'nt. BUT he keeps using these statements that he is trying to help screaming out for someone to ask for his help over and over on this site and that might not be the outlet that helps at all! Then he gets so rambling and elaborate that I put myself in the shoes of the victims family that if this man really did have visions his approach is to, mixed up and dramatic and rambling that I would not approach him.If he wanted to TRULY contact the family with these "stories" as he proclaims then why has'nt he? POsting this stuff here has NOT HELPED THE CASE! OR THE FAMILY!

ES Girlie--- If you are concerned about this case you probably are not helping by attacking fellow posters . Saying they have the right to expression and tearing into them for voicing their opinion with the same breath doesn't add up .

i thinK SHE GOT IN WITH SOMEONE SHE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE HER TO WHERE SHE WANTED TO GO BUT THEN AFTER AWHILE SHE FELT THAT SHE COULD BE IN DANGER AND ONCE THE CAR STOPED SHE GOT OUT AND STARTED TO RUN AND MAYBE THE PERPERTRDER GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND RAN AFTER HER AND KILLED HER. tHAT COULD BE ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY SHE WAS FOUND WHERE SHE WAS. mAYBE RAN TO THAT PLACE TO GET AWAT FROM THE KILLER.

i thinK SHE GOT IN WITH SOMEONE SHE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE HER TO WHERE SHE WANTED TO GO BUT THEN AFTER AWHILE SHE FELT THAT SHE COULD BE IN DANGER AND ONCE THE CAR STOPED SHE GOT OUT AND STARTED TO RUN AND MAYBE THE PERPERTRDER GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND RAN AFTER HER AND KILLED HER. tHAT COULD BE ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY SHE WAS FOUND WHERE SHE WAS. mAYBE RAN TO THAT PLACE TO GET AWAT FROM THE KILLER.

i thinK SHE GOT IN WITH SOMEONE SHE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE HER TO WHERE SHE WANTED TO GO BUT THEN AFTER AWHILE SHE FELT THAT SHE COULD BE IN DANGER AND ONCE THE CAR STOPED SHE GOT OUT AND STARTED TO RUN AND MAYBE THE PERPERTRaDER GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND RAN AFTER HER AND KILLED HER. tHAT COULD BE ONE EXPLANATION OF WHY SHE WAS FOUND WHERE SHE WAS. mAYBE RAN TO THAT PLACE TO GET AWAT FROM THE KILLER.

@ Frank, maybe ur right but here is what does'nt add up. 1)In Kevins first post he claims to have tried to contact Morgans family along with authorities and a list of others. Since NO ONE got back to him (including Morgan's family) perhaps they were offended by this guy or offput. If in fact he did try to contact anyone other than these numerous post on TCR. 2).HIs visions always change when the facts are released to the media how coincidental? 3)His second post is rambling and claiming to be having Morgan speak through HIM.And it is erratic with these rapid fire questions that make NO sense and contradict each other. 4)Then he uses a biblical name as his post name and gets WAY confusing. I think he suffers severe delusions or something.At least thats what I would think If i was this childs mother and approached me. 5)He claims to having been asked from help from the Highest authority, a little boastal perhaps. He also said anyone who questions HIM must be involved in Morgans death. I can Question anything I want without being guilty of a crime especially this guys sanity!!!

ES --Why don't you talk about your theories instead of attacking someone who at least has some ??

We don't know what the police has so it is purly speculation . Their theory is that the killer went to the farm area at a time he was under stress . How did they know the killer was under stress ? Maybe he/they were all in a party mood . Places to party in a vehicle were likely sought out either by a local or someone slipping out of town looking for a convienent spot in the country . Anchorage Farm , the old pit area or green building up around back of AF . Apparently DNA is very advanced and there is a chance they can get readings ,plus perhaps some other evidence could have been obtained from her purse or the scene at the farm .If there were loose lips they would have been wagging long ago . Anyone who might be implicated or known to her and smeared surely have lawyers and will be reticent to speak . Looks like a defence lawyer's ideal case with all the amateur meddling and finger pointing in cyberspace .

Ok Frank My first impression is that Morgan did not know her attacker or attacker's. I think this is a crime of oppurtunity if it was'nt Morgan it could have been some other young female appearing vunerable.Regaurdless of why Morgan stepped out of that arena she did and in doing so became someones target. As far as the location of the body I do believe it was someone with prior knowledge of that particular area, be it by employment or as a party area or any number of reasons. I pray that whatever resources this family uses they do find justice for morgan.

Very little info let out . I sometimes think if more info was let out then more cases would be solved quickly . Police are reluctant to make decisions , they are often lazy ,waiting for someone to call them up telling them exactly what happened . If more info was given out and more cases solved then they would loose their mystyque ,superior air of know all and wouldn't be able to take taxpayers for the ride they do . They pretty well admitted they had no clue of any connections to the farm area ,now it is all farm .They must have had or have something they can put out to help further this along . There are suggestions though that it is pretty well a done deal and they are just waiting for all details to be completely addressed before laying charges . There is never any justice in these cases as what is taken can not be replaced . There can only be remouval from society and punishment .

Morgan died to bring all of our attention onto what killed her!

We had better fearlessly look at it dead on or she died for nothing!
I have done remote viewing work for over 7 years.
I am not an expert I work for free and only when asked!

Robert Kennedy died yet we did nothing.
Princess Diana died we did nothing.
Bobby Kennedy died we did nothing.
Natilie Holloway died we did nothing.
Chandra Levey died and we did nothing.

If we keep doing nothing, it will keep happening again and again and again.

Kevin you continue to impress as a very nice and sincere person . Here again you say you don't charge anymore than your work is worth .Nice to know there is at least one honest person around . What has to be done to stop all of this that you described anyway ??

What a hoot at B-O-C . She has a few of her puppets searching out if Lindsay Vonn is involved with this . One numbskull even seriously asks if she is on a tangent with that one while she is doing her detective work ROTFLMAO . Blank freely admits to be devoit of ethics as she smears hundreds with insunations and jeoperdises neighbourhoods and individual properties . She even started her pitchford treatment of Mr Bass . I spoke up in interests of fairness and decency ,she told me to leave the site . She/he says that the end justifies the means . Doesn't give a damm about the rights of the innocent and the damage being done . Many are taking her to task and she responds with a sly sleezy nonsensical unsencere jumble . They are freely parsing everyone's character as they were speaking behind close doors in a police setting . It is shameful that they continue doing this in public . IMO

It would help if we had some standardised way of utilizing remote viewing as some separate arm of law enforcement. The lockerby Scotland bombing was solved by remote viewers. In operation star gate remote viewing proved itself, then the project went black.

It took me 30 min to find morgan and 60 days to explain it, had I been contacted early she would still be alive! Thats what we need, an agency filled with people like me, trained from youth, like the x-men or the jedi.

Kevin - Where does one read up on these skills ? Do you yourself author papers ,story lines ,or books on the subject ? I hope you have a means of being compensated for your work in this area . Maybe there is a space for you or someone to do this service as a private contractor to government or the corporate world . Sounds like very high priced billing operation .

Kevin- I think your correct justice is not going to happen in this case, I see that two will be charged for your crime. The rest will get away with it. I don’t see who their after at this point. It could be one or two of the three who dumped your body.

Kevin- They may have photos of the dump site using the dear tracking photos. It may be a crappy shot, I am not sure but they may be after some hunters or someone who had access to the property.

Kevin- You’re friends and family are very hostile. They have some good points and reasons to be speculative concerning my involvement. I will say only this, this is my first case? I have never been under pressure like this. I have never attempted to help anyone in this way.

Kevin- The messages I have been receiving come in Images. I did not continually question Morgan about what happened, because graduating students don’t pick on kindergartners.

Kevin- That’s what these people are to Morgan, children. She has totally forgiven them. She can help me and encourage me to utilize my own gifts in the service of others! But Morgan has not really handed me them on a big plate.

Kevin- She has always relented that our love and her return to share more love and understanding is the main focus of her return.

Kevin- All humans want is your body!
And vengeance for what happened.
They all seem to doubt the miracle, of your continued life.
Her graduation from, Earth!
Morgan’s loving messages of forgiveness and transcendence seem to be lost to the
Masses.

Kevin- I see corruption in the investigation and a cover up! For many different reasons justice will not be done! Mainly it’s your Father that is being lead astray! From the same groups responsible for your disappearance. I have always seen a group of at least 400 strong that has known the truth the whole time! There has been up to 2000 in the surrounding areas that knew the truth, and still do.

Kevin- I think the purse was planted as well as the shirt to throw investigators off. I think the body was left their not as an act of stupidity or callousness, but as a way to cause rapid decomposition. To remove any evidences a smart move. Just like the cell phone move someone was thinking ahead when they took you. There is premeditation evident.

Kevin- I see that a cop is connected to your death somehow? I am not sure if it’s the cop who killed himself. You had mentioned in January 7th of someone who was thinking about killing themselves as a result of being involved in your assault!

Kevin- It would seem obvious that I would look into the fire rounding that area and see if this was the home of the four young men I keep seeing attack you. They may be connected to the farm somehow.

Kevin- The farm owners plan to return the body just before, “I think” your mother’s birthday. Is to me an obvious sign of guilt! It seems to me to be an act of compassion and not accidental at all because of the timing.

Kevin- If you checked him further you may find that he has several connections to subversive and hidden groups. So would many of the Kevin haters as they would already know what happened. Those who know what happened or the sold story of, “It was an accident?” would be the ones giving me hell on-line I am thinking.

Kevin- Obviously the perpetrator must have lived or now has family in the area. I would think it would be family seeing that they seemed to remember the area from childhood.

Kevin - The farm owner is indeed involved in some way. He feels protected by his hidden affiliation with powerful hidden groups. These boys also feel protected as well. They may find convenient fall guys for your death.

Kevin- Your father will buy any line that they sell him, disregarding any help from you or me. He might even sue me for getting involved, Whit no result.

Kevin- People not as connected to these events will be the ones who enjoy or even love our efforts.

Kevin- They will devour our love and our story. They will not be so clouded by false justice or pain from your loss.

Kevin- They will connect with the only part that really matters your return, your love and our story!

Kevin- I see a mastermind.X1
Two older men x2
Five to six younger men. X6
Three Women one younger one older who knew or saw. X3
I keep seeing the number X 12 connected
To the amount of responsible parties.
A large amount of people involved who will never get charged up to 70+
Who were indirectly involved and could have done something.
A large amount of people involved in a cover up between 400- 2500 people.

Kevin- I only see two getting caught and the whole thing gets hushed up?

Kevin – Mr. Harrington seems to be following a whole other story line being, “FED to HIM by Investigators”

Kevin- “Dr. Harrington, will do what he was told, as the people who started this will finish it, create the problem, enjoy the action, create and manage the solution!

Kevin – “A textbook example of this method of deviousness employed against the sheep quite blatantly”.

Kevin- I saw allot of proof of this. Did not copy it as I was removed from an area where I could copy it.

1. I saw Hidden symbols of group affiliation being flashed by your closest friends at their Halloween party. Only advanced members would even know of these signals.

2. I saw many of the social media so called friends joining in on masking these events by turning in false sightings of you. To throw off search.

3. That you were last seen “crossing over a bridge” is a huge sigh saying we know she is dead long before you were ever found.

4. The case is missing the main element the motive?

a. Revenge or Dr. Harrington. some Bas business?
b. Sexual predators.
c. Dark intentions you were involved in a “Ritual” of some dark kind!
d. Sex slave motive.
e. That’s why the death was, “Accidental” they would have kept if they could have!
f. Longstanding lusts toward you! For at least three years they pursued you.
g. This was not their first crime; I feel them connected to a disappearance in the area. Check any unsolved cases in the last 15 years, all the way out to Richmond V.A.
h. Your murderer may have been a cop or connected to the local police department, narcotics squad? He may have been working the concert that evening as a rent a cop.

5. The fire in the area may have been connected to the four young boys from U.V.A. It should be thoroughly investigated and the renters thoroughly probed.

6. Everyone will believe whatever the cops and the media tell them. They do not have gifts most of them or minds of their own. So my story will never be verified I will be vilified and attacked for even mentioning that the,”Cover story, is bogus”!

I say Morgan is smarter than all of us! And has been telling us the whole time!!!

2- started it.
4 joined in.
1- covered it up.

241=7...SEVEN
Should hang!

You poor, innocent girl. You deserved better, but mankind failed you. Your soul ascended to heaven. Rest in peace.

Kevin G McNeill,
I don't mean to be disrespectful but could you explain this to me in simple terms? Is Morgans father involved some how in her murder? Your claiming up to 2500 people? Bass and friends on the farm, why? People have been stalking Morgan for 3 years? Have you gone to the POLICE? I tried to follow what your saying but I got lost with some of it please help me understand, are there people like this out there in the world? I know of some real bad ass people but this stuff is far out there. I need some help understanding it.

NO NOT HER FATHER IN..... ANY WAY!!!

He is at the mercy of corrupt men..that is what I see.

E Mail me if you want to know more ?

Kevingmcneill@gmail.com

Kevin - I take your numbers of 400 and 2000 people *knowing* or *being involved* as representing the concert goers?

Some one involved in security that evening may not be too far fetched . There would be a significant percentage of these people in the area that night working in some aspect of security . The probability in the numbers alone are significant . The remouval of the cell battery tips one off on the awarness that a phone is a silent tracker . Who would be acutely aware of that but police/security or a hardened criminal ? This murderer was not unintelligent . Also as MH frantically tried to get back into the arena she would have been spilling the beans of her panicked situation to the keepers of the gates . Giving out way too much information . A person can only do that for so long and they break down , become disappointed and resigned to the failure of missing out on this long cherished goal of seeing the show . She would become quiet ,reflective,and vulnerable to an apparent sympathetic helpful figure who had just recently heard her rattle off lots and lots of information about her recent separation from party ,being away from home etc etc . He would say something like ,you are going to get ill out in this weather ,you are welcome to sit in my car while waiting for your friends to come back out . I am parked over by Lannigan field ,where staff park ok ? Great care and determination was made to get the body far away from his normal sphere . He may have just a vague knowledge of the countryside and went to a sparsely populated area to hide her . Many think the purse was left where it was to mislead . Perhaps the purse just happened to end up on the ground as she tried to exit the vehicle and was pulled back in ,but the body was taken way out in the country as the murderer has no connection to there and it's discovery would not tie him to the act by it's location.This fellow is very cunning . There is just too much heat for any conspiracy to hold . This is a lone wolf who may have unwittingly left his calling card where the remains were found .Went in the back way out in the country and gone back to his wife and family .He may not even be able to find the location again even if he wanted . He is likely just sitting back rolling the dice in his head of the chances of never being found out .

I guess Kevin can't take a hint.

Kevin- was the rent a cop part of The Bohemiangrove ? I met George W Bush in Alaska per chance during his so called " missing year ". It was in a camping setting , he was having car problems with his expensive car . His girl friend was very friendlt with me . He was very jealous . He had just finished his skull and cross bones thing at Yale . He would walk by me ,give me his little killer beady eyeball murderer's stare . I think he was a natural born killer and just loved approving executions in Texas , and killing as many Arabs as he could . He is now in withdrawl remission as he can't legally kill anymore . Just waiting for the right to take back over so he can officially get back in the Government killing game . IMO

We are dealing with evil men...
Anything is possible on hell o ween

The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is better than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it.

Kevin -- It sounds like you are ruling out The Pope here at this point ,or am i jumping at a conclusion too soon ?? How do you do this amazing work all on your own ??

Seriously...it looks like it takes a lot of effort to be clinically insane.

Mr harrington is a smart man..He has two of them mabye three.

I am moving on to other things....=)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=100000700370772

Yeah...anyone who has Jonbenet Ramsey as their Facebook picture nuts.

Who is Charlene Saplak and why that name , did she create the profile ??

P.S. Charlene Saplak is one of Kevin's friends on FB . Look at her picture !

Um, whoa...I am actually sick to my stomach. This guy is seriously freaking me out. That's Morgan Harrington in that picture, isn't it?

And I think your new FB picture is even more disturbing than the Jonbenet one, Kevin.

Who is Charline Saplak?

Finding lost people is what I do for free to help other's if I can...I will not apologize for it? I friend anyone unless they turn out to be a nut.

Jonbenet is a good friend of mine from the other side. I work with those who have crossed over all of the time. Sometimes they have unfinished business and come to me for help.

If it only took you 30 min to find out Morgan was dead and lying in a farmed field, would you not help as well?

If It took you some questions to find out Jonbenet was raped and killed by her own father would you ask them?

If princess Di told you her mother in law killed her would you listen?

If Chandra Levy was killed by her boss would you tell?

The truth is, you cant handle the truth!

You will be sold the it was an accident story and these young men are sorry, it was consensual!

That she died that night story and you will accept it. Because its what you want to hear

You probably believe Arab terrorists with box cutters slammed two planes into the twin towers and they fell down as well!

Was it possibly a controlled demolition utilizing thermite? Building 7 was never hit by a plane?

You all are just sheep you do what your told!

You would never accept it,the truth!

Wolves eat sheep and do so with regularity.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=df6wf5fg_327fj8m6bfw

Doubters beware! Found Chelsea King at 4 am they found her body in exact same spot at 4 pm: He tackled her just like i saw!

Kevin the only nut here is YOU. Scram already.

Kevin - When you Pass On Through (to the otherside) of The Doors , please say hello to Jim . Tell him we miss him and he can come back anytime and Light Our Fires !!

You guys might think I am nuts to, but from the very beginning of this story I thought that the father was molesting Jonbenet. The mother found out and killed the little girl out of a jealous rage. If people found out that would be the end to her perfect life. I'm sorry but the families story just never made sense and if it doesn't sense it's not true. "If It took you some questions to find out Jonbenet was raped and killed by her own father would you ask them?" Just my Opinion.

Well, when it comes to the Jonbenet Ramsey case, I think it's always been really obvious that the parents were involved. You know Natalee Holloway's mother and Jonbenet's father were shacking up for a while, right? They may still be, I don't know.

But that's not the point. The point is Kevin's been getting his crazy all over this thread and it's getting old. Kevin, you've left numerous ways to contact you if anyone wants to listen to your nonsense. That means you don't have to keep coming back.

Mcr, I didn't know that Ramsey was involved with Holloway. Was that during the marriage to Jonbenet's mother? If Kevin is for real why doesn't he get the proof from the child to close the case? Kevin ,Why don't you get the proof and give it to the authorities? If you have evidence, the police have to look at it if no one else knows about the evidence except for the murderer and the police. The Police would than take you seriously in-stand of thinking you are nuts.

No, Sandy...it was after she died and after Natalee went missing.

Kevin--- Why don't you tell the CIA where Osama Bin Laden is ? There is 50 million dollars in it for you . Also where is Naomi Campbell , the police can't find her and urgently need to talk to her about beating up her driver .

Building 7 was just a piece of chit , didn't have proper rebar etc . Built on the cheap by a bunch of crooks who stole from the project . Beside it two humongus towers crashed to the ground causing trauma as in an earthquake . Bldg 7 cracked ,became unstable and emploded from it's own weight that couldn't be sustained as it was a piece of crap . Similiar to Port Au Prince where most of the junk buildings collapsed . In Chile where there was a 500 times more strong quake the buildings were much more resiliant as they were better built .

Kevin --- You got competition with your system of after the fact remote viewing and 241 method of problem solving . Blink has been using these systems with great skill lately in explaning where MH remains were eventually found on lot 41a in the boondocks . No worries though as you are probably more on the cutting edge of crime solving , beyond crayons and colouring .

iam a57 year old grandmother.i try to instill in my grandsons as i did my children.when you go out together,you stay together,you go to the bathroom together.you return together.when at a party if you put your drink down,you don't drink out of that drink anymore.people believe that if they are in a good neighborhood nothing will happen to them.dangerous people are every where now.young people take heed.bad things are happening all over our country.don.t ever think it can,t happen to you.everyday people go missing and never found again.the laws must change.maybe if the punishment start fitting the crime it will slow down the crime.what ever they do to the victim do it to them.

THE GODAMN COPS HAVE THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED RAPIST AND MURDERER THAT KILLED MORGAN, YET THEY DO NOTHING. WHO WERE THE SECURITY GUARDS THAT WOULD NOT LET MORGAN BACK INTO THE BUILDING? OFF-DUTY DUNG-EATING PIGS I'LL BET. COPS ARE IMPOTENT, SPINELESS, CORRUPT, DO- NOTHINGS. MAYBE THIS FREAKS NEXT VICTIM WILL BE A COP...WE CAN ALWAYS HOPE.

i have always thought in the Ramsey case it was the brother ... and i still do.

Morgan Harrington was a skank. She partied hard and used poor judgement. Tired of hearing about what a poor victim she was. Yes, what happened to her is a very sad thing, but the world can be a rough place and she didn't use her head.

@ jason Hmmmmm pretty harsh words there touph guy? The world is a rouph place???? What is that ur motive for murder and excusing it?

Hello Kevin,i was reading your posts about the morgan harrington murder and i really respect what you try to do for the families of the victims and applaud you for taking all of the abuse from other peoples posts..I used to go to school with this girl i am about to ask you about,you can go to the website FINDTARA.COM and hopefully you can get in touch with a family member or a contact there if you can help.She has been missing since 2005,there was a special on ABC i believe about her dissapearance,those that knew her believed it to be her arrogant boyfriend,but naturally he denies it....If you decide to put your knowledge to the test i am sure her family and friends would appreciate it.She was a teacher in Ocilla,Ga. when this happened...Once again i appreciate what you do for people and only wish there were more people like you that cared..I will tell you now Tara's mother has since passed after her daughters dissapearance,but i believe there is a contact that you can reach on the site to ask for permission if needed...Thank You

God bless her soul

I am so saddened by this. My prayers go out to the family she will always be in our thoughts

does anyone else here see the Pattern with the Kevin Mcneill quack? I mean is it not blatantly Obvious he's literally carrying on conversations with himself through others? The frank speaker pseudonym? (too obvious) Funny really Kevin, to build a sympathetic character to (vicariously) defend you (and make the same mispellings as you) because you crave attention and stardom so bad that you will do nearly anything to obtain it? Guess what Sport...(the REAL ONES DON'T ADVERTISE) I would suggest some therapy and perhaps psychotropic medication for your apparent Dissociative Identity Disorder. (then the poor bastard accidentally wrote himself a letter allegedly from another individual and signed his own name..its truly laughable) You're not impressing anyone within the Circle, in fact you could say that you're starting to annoy certain individuals who try to maintain a certain...balance.

Saint . That is an amazing talent you have of diagnosing a disease and recommending apropriate medicatin without having seen the patient . Do you also use " Remote Viewing " in your medical practice ? Kevin is on the cutting edge of remote viewing though.There are many pretenders but there is only one Kevin G MacNeill .I believe he pioneered the technique and has it refined far beyond anyone else . He does a broad range of categories .If you just stick to your medical cyberpractice using remote viewing you may prosper in that niche as you develop into doing online remote viewing operations covered by medicare . Don't forget Kevin's work though as you prosper as it was his vanguard pioneering of Remote Viewing that made it all possible for you . Many people eat dust but the very few like Kevin make it !!!

actually mr speaker/mcneil remote viewing has been theorized about since further back than H.P. Blavatsky and the government experimented with it some as well. (and some say still do) Project Stargate. (catchy title eh?) I'm not a shrink
or a medical professional of any sort. Or a "remote viewer" as it happens. But I KNOW that mcneil is speculating on this and has changed his story several times. He's grasping at straws. The poor unfortunate girl could have just as easily overdosed on drugs and died before the concert was over, and the Party concerned got freaked out and stashed the body because they were afraid of getting in trouble. Or she could have simply walked off to where she was found, passed out and died of exposure. If they had to use dental records to identify the body, I doubt they will be able to determine whether or not there was sexual obstruction comitted upon the body. (unless there were ligature indicators or a broken hyoid etc) I'm not ruling OUT a group of crazed sex perverts, but it dosent seem likely. AND if mr mcneill/speaker was so cutting edge in his assessments I imagine he would be more sought out and wouldn't need to resort to Terrorizing families and harrassing people in the guise of offering his "free services". Cutting edge works on and around the EDGE. (not from the middle) I don't doubt that you have a certain level of intuitive abilities, but they were likely much stronger in your youth, and have since become corrupted by your need to be glorified and noticed. It should ALWAYS be about the Victims and helping them....(and every hero should be nameless).....good day Sir. (Jeremy.)

Jeremy ---- You say you are not a professional in the medical field but you made a medical diagnosis and prescribed treatment of a person but you call Kevin a Quack . It takes one to know one and you certainly have the nose/beak for sniffing out quacks .

LOL...why thank you Mr. Speaker, but considering the strong circumstances of Mr mcneill's ramblings I think making a Diagnosis would be pointless, I was stating what the general consensus would likely see as Obvious. When I mentioned seeking help it was more of a Personal suggestion however, which should have been obvious to You when reading my post. (the part where it says "suggest" )

As for your own personal observations of my Being a quack,..well...I remember reading a decent shrink who said that there truly is No sanity, but rather varying degrees of psychosis/ neurosis...(both in their worst states intolerable, or potentially dangerous.) It's how an individual deals with it that counts.

Worry not saint_dismas Anyone one with eyes can see Kevin is more harmful then good in ANYTHING pertaining to this case. His ramblings are exactly that ramblings. I am formally E.S. Girlie I went a few rounds with him and Mr. Speaker who seems to be always around somewhere no matter how new the post to defend Kevin. LOL

That should have said *formerly

Thank you Ms. E.S. Girlie, while I'm not a complete skeptic concerning the paranormal/e.s.p./remote-viewing etc., I do find it unlikely that someone who
happens to possess such gifts would come off as so Desperate to be Heard.

With this unfortunate case such an occurrence is truly more damning, and I would'nt be surprised if the family hasnt been contacted by many alleged
psychics offering their expertise. (not to mention the false leads the police have
to sift through on their Call-watches.)

On this One I'm simply going to remain hopeful that further analysis and testing of what evidence was there will lead to a SOUND conclusion. (whatever
the conclusion may be)

saint_dismas
I too believe in the potential in people having the actual gift itself I am not quite as close minded as it may seem. I do however see ALOT wrong with ALL of Kevin's posts. Especially the long drawn out one which is a rapid fire questionare to his own self, scary in and of itself. Plus as you pointed out the sheer desperation in which Kevin posts. It seems far more attention seeking then helping this family in ANY way find out what happened to thier child.

Yes ma'am you're absolutely right In my opinion,..and you're anything But close minded...Judging by your posts on this page and others I've recently encountered I would say you are Rational, and forethinking about things,...you dont jump to conclusions or rule anything out, which is good. Far too many cases have been Prolonged unecessarily due to individuals "jumping the gun" and not considering all of the Variables and specifics of the Case. It's GOOD to ask Well framed questions, and state possibilities....but ANYONE who speaks vicariously for the dead is tempting something I wouldn'nt care to face. Feel free to call me Jeremy ma'am...good day.

Well Thank you kindly Jeremy. I must admit I am guilty to falling into the trap of letting my blood boil when I read some of these comments and threads. But I enjoy seeing how the rest of the world feels about things and I truly enjoy your insight.

When your blood gets boiling do you want to kill or have someone killed ??

When you get caught up in your BS do you want to kill someone there Frankie Old Boy? Or is it Kevin? Or Isiah? I lost track?

Frank...sometimes when I see the very BAD cases where small defenseless children and women are targeted my blood boils and I get the Rage, I think many likely get that way...but You dont beat the monsters by becoming one yourself...its like the old Nietzsche cliche from Zarathustra. (When you look into an abyss the Abyss looks into YOU.)

I think for certain repeat offenders however,...the extremely heinous, non-reformable wastes who will Always be and do what they are, There should be a Euthanasia policy that painlessly ends their mental rabies for good.
(Not out of revenge but for the preservation of what little good remains in society) Social Landscaping...yeah there we go. Plucking out the Tares so that
Roses may bloom.

The scary part is if such a day would come who would make that decision? I had a similiar conversation with Y on another thread. It is hard to know where to stand at times. I believe in a legal system, but sometimes our legal system is a joke!
I want to show my daughter only the good in the world but that is out of my hands.
Mental illness is to blame for alot of these horrific crimes. But sometimes it just plain old cruelty. Less people look out for the other fellow anymore. You come to TCR and read some of the things posters post so mean spirited and lacking empathy you wonder if its some kid trolling or even worse someone who BELIEVES the hateful things they type.

I like that"Social Landscaping" it's good. Nice one Sir.

illusions -- you are always changing your name so you are not relevent . Claiming i am doing the same and making fun .Your joke is on yourself . I don't go by any other than as always Frank Speaker .

Jerry -- Boiling blood ,social landscaping,raging,euthanasia,we know what you are all about . I expect you live in a country that still has the barbarac practice of state sanctioned killings and you thurst for blood wanting to expand that program . Such programs grow to include various types and groups . Ethnic and political cleansing is probably your desired goal beyond just your cherished routine euthansia .

Good question Illusions,...I'd probably use a majority versus minority system of some sort. Hire a staff consisting of Forensic Psychiatrists (of no political affiliation) and maybe a Few Seasoned Profilers, and then Their Ultimate majority versus minority vote would determine if Euthanasia is warranted.

Theres a difference between Classic Vigilantism, and ORganized Vigilantism, the former could be considered whats mentioned above.

Mr. Speaker, in the end I suppose it dosent really matter what name you choose to use, so Long as your Heart and Intentions are in the right place, and attempting to serve A Greater Good that surpasses the usual Selfish Impulses of Many.

My apologies for being so critical and pseudo-analyzing.
As for Mr. Mcneill: Speak for yourself. (not the dead)

I live in ohio now Man. Ethnic cleansing is useless,..no one asks to be born.
Politics DO need cleansing/reform though,
and Euthanasia as punishment is focused on the maladaptive types who repeat an offense, and show no chance of reform. (as deemed by a qualified board)
Dont try pulling the race/culture card out of your sophistic bag of nom de plume
tricks please sir.

Oh...yeah its Jeremy by the way.

Jerry , Do you picture yourself as the decider in this euthanasia program you hanker for ?? I suppose you would carry out your duties as the second coming of Dr Mengle in your usual style without even seeing those that you deemed to be condemed for despatch ! I find it amazing that such freely admitted evil people as you come on here spouting off who and how they would like to kill but you feel superior to a good soul such as Kevin who is looking for positive solutions .

lol..its an idea Frankster,...a Theory.
I myself would'nt decide or execute anything.
It would be left up to aforementioned Qualified People.
My problem with Kevin is that he Feeds off the misery of
others in order to promote his own Psychic Agenda which
cannot be physically proven or retested by anyone but HIm.

With social occurrences, you can Measure the presence of repeat
offenses, and its pretty frickin obvious that some continue to do
what they do regardless of theraputic attempts. Those types are
Given the death penalty.

Society sees the necessity for the death penalty otherwise it wouldnt
exist.

Jerry--- Your essential evil is chilling . It is the system of murdering despots . You feel that your system of mass murder is novel but history is full of your type . Many have gotten so prolific at state murdering of their own citizens that they have eliminated tens of millions .

pol pot, hitler,stalin, to name a few. Your argument is futile really however because they didnt focus on Euthanizing repeat offenders in a painless manner,
they killed CITIZENS.

I wont bother trying to get into the nature of evil with you Spank,...but I will say that your hearts in the right place either way.

Jerry --- The "death penalty" as you call it does not exist in my society or many other modern progressive states .Your proposed system of euthanasia style mass murder goes beyond that barbaric practice . Sewing your evil ideas and theories makes you no better than those that you wish to carry them out . Speaking of nomes de plume . You have yours very screwed up Jerry . Kevin is the saint , you are satin .

Jerry --- Repeat offenders are still citizens . Some are even wrongfully convicted . Many societies pay those incarcerated old age pensions , they are permitted to vote and still have charter rights . Those societies seem to have a much lower level of violence than those that still murder their citizens .

satin?
nope...I'm snuggles the Bounty bear.. quite snuggly soft man.
Satan?
nope, dont believe in it, but I (as voltaire said) would fight to the death
for your right to!...(insert maniacal laughter for theatric effect here )

It's Jeremy, and YOU are the Kevin user most likely, youre just using two different email addresses. I dont care however, call me what you want..
(especially late for dinner!) If you're just going to play the part of self-rghteous reactionist trying to get a rise out of people I'm Not Playing anymore. (i've likely already mentally soiled myself keeping it up this long, and distracting away from good commentary on this case.)

Good day. Francis.

Repeat Violent Offenders are not often wrongfully convicted, and theres usually overwhelming evidence against them. (literally open and shut)
For some reason or another they're just often pushed back out into your so called Progressive society, because an overpaid handholder used their shitty
past to justify antisocial behaviors.

I dont know what Utopic Society you live in SPort, but here there is a melting pot of various types, who can't be labelled in such a good Non-violent light as those you glorify.

It's becoming a bitter garden out there.
(wake up and sniff the thorns)

Jerry---Convicted repeat offenders means two trials minimum. One could be an improper conviction . All trials are political in one form or another and those few Western democracies that practice state killings have put innocent to death in error. Your rhetoric about the undeseriable melting pot ,bitter garden you live in makes me suspicious again that you have a much broader agenda for your theories and ideas for state mass murder.

Frank, in spite of myself I like you ...on this matter I'll agree to disagree.

Theres (again) no agenda, I was responding to a question asked by another Poster, and explaining how (Hypothetically) I would go about making a determination on who gets the Needle. (repeatedly I've stated that it should be up to Qualified Individuals which I am not one of.)

Your agenda seems clear to me though, you're apparently just hankering for someone to argue with because the controversy of debate gets you through your otherwise monotonous days.

With that I'll take no part.

Jerry -- I think your ideas in one form or other are quite widespread and growing within western countries . It has a lot to do with culture clash . Long term religious war over oil .Attacks on European and North American soil by foreigners or those doing their bidding . Frustration created by the less sophisticated and crude .A severe backlash so to speak is growing .Loss of patience and quest for solutins leads to action . We might correctly forsee some of our democracies become dictatorships and implement justice from the barrel of a gun .

Yes FRANK, I realize that, but again In No form or Another does Organized
VIgilantism have anything to do with Killing for Profit, or ethnic/cultural
cleansing,...nor does it involve "cleaning up the west wyatt earp style with a six shooter."

I get what you're saying though Sir, the greatest problem posed is that there
is really no way To avoid any such system becoming another tool that is inad-
vertently used by greedy bastards concerned with profit margins or REVENGE
instead of JUSTICE. (there is certainly a difference)

I'm beginning to appreciate your insights on this matter, and think that its a
necessary balancing stone in the further development of my Thoughts. You're
probably considerably older than myself (i've not yet reached 30) and I've noticed that you have a good knowledge of the Law/philosophy.

I don't see you as the enemy Frank, and If you see me as yours you should
consider that we learn from friends and foes alike. I will Honorably admit that
some of my Mindset is biased by my own past experiences with injustice at
the hands of Similar Offenders as those i've mentioned...so perhaps you have
alternative suggestions on how to handle such types that would be of good use.

I'd be thankful to you if you would quit calling me Jerry, My names Jeremy
(short for jeremiah) Hennessy. Good day.

Pete Kotz said:

Saint, I think you just broke the record for kindness and and chivalry with that post. Atta boy.

LoL thanks pete,...hardly a knight in shining armor though.
I think that old cliche should (if anything) indicate how spotless
(and therefore lazy) the knight is. The protectors of the weak and
innocent in todays society are bound to be Much dirtier From battling
the social Dragons.

I often marvel at how many sides of an argument some people can occupy at the same time . Cover all sides and the one that proves right by time gives them the prophetic bragging rights . Not really , just means they are confused and part of the problem discussed . If you are looking for solutions to these bad types perhaps simple ,cost effective ones would be a start . I believe you are talking about US problems . That country lost it's way when it strayed from the British Empire . It enshrined a violent society of citizens using each other for killing targets as it insists that each and every person has the right to be armed to the teeth with deadly firepower . Your country should beg on bended knee to be accepted back into the British system and begin to learn the nuances of civilized behaviour . Until then you will remain a pyryah on the world stage , your cities will have the prefix of murder this murder that ..

First of all your repeatedly calling him jerry did'nt quite get the rise you wanted did it? Perhaps because it seems to me Jeremy is part of the population we are lacking. Thoughtful, kind, and he gets his point across without losing his cool. That is to be admired.
Secondly I have only changed my name once and thats ONLY because rocki stole it to post antideppresant craziness!You know who I am now don't you?
By the way thurst is spelled THIRST and YOU are irrelevant. What are you Kevins right hand man? He is a saint? Please is that what you tell yourself in the mirror?SHOW ME,PROVE TO ME,ONE PERSON HE HAS HELPED WITH HIS RANDOM DELUSIONS????You can't can you? Thats because most people see him for what he is an oppurtunist and a fake!

Who asked you there Ms What's Her Name as again you prove you have nothing to add and only attack others on here . As usual nothing from you worth commenting on ....

P.S. Thankfully Jerry and his flow chart for state mass murder is part of a population a country can do without . You find the ideas he is advocating to be from a kind and thoughtful person .Maybe you could get yourself and your boiling blood on one of his fictional kind and thoughtful death boards or better still you could be the axewoman .

Attack YOU? How? Insulted a little but I don't even know you so I doubt your shallow enouph for it to hurt. I contributed by asking you a question. You claim Kevin is a saint. I asked you HOW do you come to that conclusion? what has he done that is so saintly? Can you not answer that? If you are so willing to ride someones coatails and sing thier praises at least tell me what Kevin has done that HELPED ANYONE with or without his 'gift'? Since YOU 'attack' people in his defense? Frank It is a cold hard world the thought of wiping out a few that CANNOT be rehabilatated, and DON'T say they all can,then it does not scare me as much as letting them walk the street. What exactly do you SUGGEST we do with the child rapists and murderers? There is this thing called prison overpopulation.Pleas Frank enlighten me?

i am not interested in your stupid rambling

Is that your way of saying you can't prove what you stand so strongly behind?

that is my way of saying you are just a dumb dog at a keyboard that can't follow a logical train of thought

Your right I will leave you alone Mr Speaker, since all that crap Kevin spewed was soooo logical.

Thank you for the kind words Miss (or respectively Mrs.) IllusionS...Apparently Mr.Speaker dosent Understand speaking from Hypotheticals. I didn't once claim ideas such as the ones I expressed were a "cure all" for this countries Repeat Violent offender problem. I stated a series of opinions, and Posted a hypothet-
ical System of Prevention/deterrence which I personally think would be a starting point.

I'm grateful that there are still some out there who know the difference between
ideas, and diehard convictions,...and I myself (much like you) admittedly dont know where to stand on Many of the issues I read about. I think what cooks Frankies goose the most is the simple fact we're Critical opposers of The apparent champion he sees in the Kevin Mcneil persona he uses....lol

Absolutley Jeremy. We all have to draw a line in the sand on where we stand and how we feel, in the world today that sand line can be washed away. I actually feel a little bad for arguing with Mr Speaker. He is in a different mind frame then say the other poster Nick who just flat out hates women. I hate losing my cool and resorting to name calling.
I was actually posting a partially serious question because did'nt know if Frank mayhave facts that would cause me to eat my words about Kevin.But somehow I aggrivate them just enouph to get called a dog behind a keyboard, so on and so forth. Then I fall into the name calling trap. Emotions run high when I think about the future of this world.
I knew that you did'nt mean line up people potentially innocent and all and put them in front of a firing squad. I knew what you ment and how you felt. At least you offered it to be painless which is more than half the posters out here would have.

Regardless of the Monsters some are, I look at it from the perspective of a few others I've read on here. "The rabid Dog analogy". Some simply suffer mental rabies and will (figuratively) Bite the hands of The innocent everytime without
change in behavior. While Death is never a pleasant thing, sometimes it seems
to be the only reasonable method of prevention. I've explored other potential ways and none so far have seemed to produce any results, so here I am..swimming in what ifs, and maybes!

I still have the ever-nagging suspicion that frank and Kevin are one and the same, I may be wrong , but it just seems highly coincidental that hes' always RIGHT there when kevin needs defended...and he literally popped out of nowhere at a time when Kevin needed a fellow to champion his deluded cause.

I know timing is always convient for him. Pete could tell us for sure, but as you say he could use different e-mails as well. IF they are one and the same he should certainly be able to tell me what Kevin the Saintly hero has done to utilize his gift for the positive.

time is convient huh ? lol thats what I get for bieng a smarty pants LOL

Jerry-- If you want murdering to decrease perhaps you are going at it the wrong way . You don't stop humans killing other humans by advocating humans killing other humans . Painless or otherwise . It is very basic . Look at countries that have abolished capital punishment , their murder rate tends to decrease . That decrease in murder rate estops any argument for the re-imposition of the death penalty . I totally agree that some by their actions have given up their right to ever be permitted to be in the general population . It is a huge logistic problem of what to do with them . I know you have your heart set on killing them but your method actually may be less of a deterrant than public stoning .I am not advocating public stoning but if you have capital punishment that system is more honest and victums get a chance to get actual revenge if they so choose . North America and Europe currently have a growing problem of drugs,guns and violent criminals . How about a system of Arctic Work Camps for these evil criminals running from Northern Alaska,Northern Canada,Greenland,Northern Norway,And Sweden . I am sure we could hook Russia into the system and they could give valuable insight in method of operation .

WOW! What's sad is that Kevin a.k.a. Frank Speaker got so much blog time and got everyone so off track. I liked something said much earlier in the year....what happened to chivalry? This unfortunate incident -- whether a murder or death by exposure (coupled with drugs or alchohol or poor choices??) -- may never be solved, but something positive can be gained by it. How about more conversations between parents and children/teenagers about what can go wrong? How about more common sense being used to avoid the possibility to placing yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time? How about more guys/adults stepping up to do the right thing and help a young girl/kid out when they have made poor decisions. Look out for them. Help them get home safe. Let her death stand for something.

First of all you are 100% right Elizabeth. I feel kinda bad for getting off topics on most threads and this one was'nt that far from me. I hope the family somehow someday gets the answers that are missing right now. If it was a crime I hope they seek and find justice. However that justice won't bring this child back. Are they still looking for answers to this I wonder? By they I mean Law Enforcement. I have'nt heard any recent updates.

It has officially been ruled a murder . Rumours are that she suffered massive blunt force trauma . I felt all along this was a stranger crime of opportunity .People with experience in these cases claim when the victum has suffered such up close attacks . Male on female that it is a sign of the killer being itimately involved with the victum . A controlling freak turned pshysco getting vengence for something for all that went against him in his twisted mind . Law enforcement has a budget and many issues to attend to . I am sure this case has received it's fair share of money spent and they have to have a proveable case before they make their move . The DNA would need time to process,and no doubt there are numerous individuals connected that have lawyered up .Given the number of people in motion that night there are lots of people in position to be involved with this crime ,however,the cast of characters that might be involved are quite publicly known even from the internet . It is reasonable to assume the LE has some hard evidence that points to the actual perps . They have their methods also ,informants,wiretaps,and cleaver stings etc. We don't know who with knowledge has already spilled their guts to LE either . Say what you like but an RCMP Sgt friend i was bivowacked with on a French immersion course told me that a grandmother will sell her grandson down the river if she knew he murdered . No one wants to be close to a murderer as they are afraid of becoming a target down the road . What happened on Oct 17 was the worst of hummanity . People always prove us wrong when all hope appears lost . They always come through in the end to do the right thing .

NO frank...my heart isnt set on killing them...Its always open to alternative possibilities, if such possibilities are effective. I Like your idea of a Work Camp
facility for certain types, It could work, and possibly increase the economy to boot in some way depending on What they're producing/working on.

If its officially been ruled a murder, I tend to agree its LIKELY a "psycho targets victim of opportunity" scenario. I understand the popularity of branding more Up close Attacks to be the work of one who intimately knew the victim, but its not always like that. ( even in cases with extreme overkill it dosent Always imply an intimate relationship,..it just means the offender/unsub was in a rage at the time)

I'm not familiar with the stats you mentioned above, but would be appreciative for any related links on the matter you might possess.
WHile it dosen't really perturb me all that much when you call me Jerry,
I think you have it in you to be a sport and Call me either dismas, or Jeremy.
(short for jeremiah) I take your opinions, and insight into matters just as
seriously as I do the thoughts of others...you're not particularly vulgar, or Overly Rude about it, so your own style of commentary is Valid in my view.

(My brother in law is from the U.K. by the way...Essex, used to work at the building that was east india trading company before the name change, so I have a SMALL knowledge of how they feel about gun control. I'm also quite a fan of the way scotland yard improvises with character analysis in their profiling models.)

Good day Mr. Speaker.

J -- It doesn't matter what the lifer covicts produce as long as they are remouved from society . The North needs workers , in the development of natural resources and just plain development . An international penal system of all northern countries would be a perfect fit . Solves the problem of repeat serious violent offenders . The countries don't have to kill their own citizens so respect for life is maintained ,dispicable that some are . Russia had a Northern penal system ,however,it was really designed to kill and was used mainly for despotic political reasons . Australia was settled by prisoners as was Miami ( forget the latter ) . Yes hand guns have one purpose only . Kill other humans . The U.S. is flodded with them and exporting them , mostly illegially ,but the supply comes from there .The citizenery has to come up with a program of disarmament and adapt less lethal but effective means of self defense . There is no alternative as random mass shooters individual shooters are dominating . They will flood your healthcare system as these actions ,wounded get priority . Often the wounded are bad people but they still go to the head of the line over well disciplined honest folks that are in need of urgent attention also .A responsible person can be in a medical facility struggling and really needing attention ,zoom in comes a couple people with drug overdoses and a couple of gangsters with bullet wounds . Guess who gets immediate attention,guess who doesn't ?? Citizens in such of a society become very brave . Their braveness makes them discount the need for a massive gun remouval ,and shut down of the supply of guns and ammunition .

J-- Sorry i missed your stats question . They can be gotten readily . Quickly i got up your neighbour to the North that abolished state killing 40 years ago . Their murder rate has since gone down by 40% and they have been able to release some wrongly convicted who otherwise would have been put to death . The murder rate in the U.S.A runs about 300 % higher than the country to it's North . State killings by the boiling blooded seems to make the problem worse . I will have a quick look at other Western democratic countries...

Thats very interesting Mr. Speaker. especially on the matter of Gun Control.
I've read arguments on Gun control that say without them, we would have an
increased risk of invasion by foreign hostiles, but They often state references
of an occurrence back during the WW2 period, so its far from inscrutible considering our modern Defenses.

I think there could be another set of potential dangers in trying to universally take all guns from american citizens. 1) many would rebel. 2) its likely all of the guns registered will be taken first, before the unregistered guns from your various criminals. (some consider that could increase risk for Citizens who have no sufficient means of defense, against the criminals who still have their guns.)

In short, I'm not really sure where I stand on gun control issues, at the moment I'm trying to acquire a familiarity with multiple perspectives. Many
of yours bear weight for consideration, and will hopefully increase my consciousness a bit.

J.

In short your assesment is i take it that it is hopeless to attempt any worwithile reduction in the rate of violence and i suspect you are still partial to your system of euthenasia . I agree with you then as you stated earlier that is a very unappealing framework to reside in .Too many thorns . Reduction in guns of course would be difficult in a paronoid gun worshiping culture . I am not sure what to say about your fear of invasion from other countries given all the countries that the USA has invaded . Offhand i can think of Cuba,Lebanon,Dominican Republic,Canada,Panama,Iraq,Afganistan,parts of Iran,Somalia,Laos,Vietnam,,Grenada ,parts of Pakistan....many others too numerous to mention .Difficult to make any logic of it all so your confusion is very understandable .

I wonder which of those would be the most likely candidate, and if they would have the sufficient means for an invasion? Its not really a fear of mine per se,
I'm either fortunate, or damned with ignorance in having a very small amount of Fear.

I'm not Partial to the Idea of Euthanasia Frank, I answered a hypothetical question, and then argued from the perspective of support for it, but that dosen't mean I think the otherside is hopeless. (just perhaps too optimistic considering America is much different from every other nation, in that it has
most factions of Other Nations within it. Melting Pot Chaos, one could say...
All have a right to It, yet many within it Feel that its their right exclusively.
Too many sheep, so few shepherds..(whatever analogy most suits)

I basically Want whatever is best for the Benefit of Mankind as a whole, regardless of culture/ethnicity/religion/race/color/etc...and If it could be obtained by peaceful means, or non fatal ones I would support it. If violent is neccessary I would use it Strictly in defense of Self and others.

Thank you Mr. Speaker.
Good day.

J.

So it was officially ruled a homicide? Wow One of the things I originally posted was I thought it was a crime of oppurtunity, someone who singled her out in her vunerability. Whether that was because she was intoxicated, probably a little shaken from not bieng able to get back in to the concert. I hope that WHOever and HOWever many are guilty here get brought to the light so another family does'nt have to NOT KNOW what happened to thier child! I hope that we hear more on this in the future..

I hadn't been following this case like i was after i heard about it on Nancy Grace . Blink on her site was hinting that there might be some action by LE on 5 and 6 April . At least that was my perception of what she was alluding to . I will check there later . Her bloggers seem frustrated by the slow pace but unless there is a clear cut confession what do they expect. Again the DNA results if there are any are a critical piece of the answer . Again also LE knows what they know and will not let info out until a prosecutable case is made .

J -- I find you bounce all around on all sides of an issue . One breath you say that citizens need their guns to prevent foreign occupation . Next breath you say that would not be a problem in relation to many of the various countries the US has attacked . Given that most probable stragetic enemies are an ocean apart i don't see myself what deterrant hand guns would be to them . From the overwhelming tragic evidence it appears that the hand guns are used to slaughter each other same citizens within the same country .Anyone who cannot ,therefore,see the need for arms reduction of it's citizens for their own good is a fool . Anyone not advocating and supporting a drastic reduction of citizen armaments is complicit in continued and perhaps esculating slaughter . Yes you voluntarily put out a system of euthanasia and strenously argued for it . Next breath you say you are not partial to euthanasia .Well Jeramy it's your idea ,your words . No one led you there ,no one put the words in your mouth or forcefully made you argue so strigently for the merits of the proposal you were selling . You ,therefore,own the proposal .

Frank, you're not misreading the parts where I say "hypothetically",
and "not a fear of mine per se" are you? hypotheticals, or alternative arguments
that I've read are not particularly things I embrace, they're things I bring up
within a frame of reference to the related topic to see where others stand on them.

It's not really agenda surfing (as some political philosophers might mock) because IM not searching for any cause to buy into, that satisfies my deep
seated need to feel like a Good human Being. (or powerful in some way)

Observe everything, and fall for Nothing? ...Possibly, I think its important to
expand your consciousness towards various alternatives, in order to see hidden solutions which may be present in the Social stream.

IN this instance there are too many potential negatives and positives to consider, and people could attempt to morally weight out all implications until they were blue in the face, but in the end Righteousness
towards the matter gets boiled down to the same Majority v.s. minority consensus. (and ultimately bitched about in the Underground)

Found Chelsea King in 30 min..They found her in the same spot I told them they would find her. 6 hs later..All documented live.

I am here to save children's lives not banter with fools!

Save one!

Guess I missed all that live documentation there Kevin. So are you claiming credit for finding Chelsea King? single handed using your gift? I would eat every word here I typed if that was even close to the truth!
And even if you'll be mad at me Frank thanks for the information, I had'nt been able to locate anything new on Morgan.

Kevin...you're full of more crap than a Christmas goose. For starters, you're not saving childrens lives, you're trying to get attention by playing the Psychic Ruse.
If you had any valuable information leading to Miss king then you would Have Went There and found her yourself. No..the efforts of finding miss
king are owed to the (over 6,000) volunteers who searched day after day for her.
(as far as being "right where you said" its crap,...Gardner told them details of the crime and they felt it would be Most Plausible to search the waterfronts and shorelines near the area of commission.) TOO bad your psychic visions are apparently unknown and unheard of until a body is found huh Kev? Then whenever theres resolution you magically pop on here waving your delusional little victory flag, claiming that you alone brought light to a case that went on For months. (while thousands of volunteers lacking "psychic abilities" searched day in and day out while you hid behind your screen typing bullshit to people) I went to the liberty of contacting some "people" from other cases you were alleged to have been involved with, and they've either never heard of you, or think you're full of shit. Many were very enraged when they read the Posts on here of YOU typing Vicariously for Morgan....you should be glad I hold them back...really. You're not a bad guy, and relatively harmless...but still.. harmless rumors often lead to Harmful end results, when speaking ILL of The dead.

James Randi has offered up a $1 million USD reward to anyone who can prove a psychic, paranormal, or supernatural event.

So, Kevin, just follow the provided link and apply to the Challenge, and scoop up your cool million.

Imagine how many kids you can help with that!

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

To date no one has been able to prove their powers for the award. Weird, considering how much "proof" there is. You can see the list of applicants, too, some of their claims are pretty hilarious.

Ahhh Jeremy u are a refreshing sip of ice water on a simmering summer day! :) LOL All jokes aside when it comes to old Kevin I don't know if his delusions are real or just convienent, in other words I don't know whether to be utterly disgusted by him, or pity him but it is usually the first choice.
Moet I can't speak for everyone but I think we have all had those moments when we knew things ahead of time, moments we thought of someone we had'nt seen in a while then, boom, we run into them at the grocery store this has happened to me several times over the years. Or we knew someone may call out of the blue, and they did.So I have always kept the hope alive that someone somewhere can maybe tap further into this intuition thing. I wish for the sake of once having a childs heart someone COULD collect that million.

I believe you, iLLusionS, and those 'moments' that happen would be impossible to prove for pre-arranged observation like in the test. James Randi is a well-known skeptic, but he doesn't think these things don't exist.

I KIND of want someone to collect the money, but in a way, I kind of don't because I don't want the mystique spoiled :)

I believe YOU, iLL, but obviously I don't believe a word Kevin says, lol

thank you illusionS... if you havent already read anything on the matter, I think you would Find Carl Jungs ideas on Synchronicity worth looking into...its similar to what you mentioned in your last post. Quite interesting. (in his first work about synchronicity he also references The Famed J.b. Rhine experiments which dealt in exploring the possibility of psychic phenomenon...Rhine later went on to help found the parapsychology movement.)

Moet...good idea also man, but the problem with that is Mr. Randi limits the scope of his paranormal challenge now, to disclude those who are potentially mentally ill, he mostly seeks out those with a pre-existing public profile like sylvia brown. (who accepted the challenge but hasnt yet taken IT)

Sylvia Brown... blech, don't get me started on THAT con-artist...

Since no one has even passed the preliminary screening to be a claimant since the Challenge started in 1964, I'm guessing it's really tough to meet the criteria.

I wasn't really serious about it though, saint, I was just poking a bit of fun at Kevin.

I'm a girl, by the way, hehe.

oops, my apologies for the genderal miscalculation Moet. I agree Brown is just another hack (like the rest of them) who feeds off the misery and Hopes of
those grieving. I like Mr. Randi, especially for exposing Uri Gellar for the Spoon Bending Fraud that he is. (and continues to be) There were many in the magic world who thought at one time Mr. Randi was the "masked magician" who did all those specials on TV explaining how to perform Illusions,..but it likely wasnt him. (though its interesting he toured for nearly a Year with Alice Cooper on stage) Much of Kevins "philosophy" (for lack of a better word) seems to be a loose derivation of H.P. Blavatskys ideas she wrote about in The Secret Doctrine.
I think such individuals (who speak in the name of the Dead) should be charged with Defamation of character by the families of THEIR Victims. (and they are victims.)

Moet do you have information about Sylvia Brown? If you do would you share it with us. I always wanted to know if she was the real deal.

Do I ever, Sandy! Robert Lancaster put together a very awesome site full of impartial (and partial) info about Sylvia. Unfortunately he suffered from a massive stroke so he hasn't updated it in a year or so, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to read.

Just check it out and decide for yourself. ^_^

http://stopsylvia.com/home/

Sorry, should have posted this, too. This is Mr. Lancaster's "mission statement" and I can say he has always stayed true to it.

Over the years, Sylvia Browne has been the focus of a number of skeptical pages on the web, but I don't think that there has ever before been one site which focused solely on her. The goal of this site is to fill that void by providing a central place where she, her track record and all of her claims are examined and analyzed.

Although I will be approaching the subject from a skeptical viewpoint (the name of the site should show that), I will try to do so in as fair and factual a manner as possible.

Where I state a fact, I will try to back it up with references. Where I state an opinion, I will try to clearly label it as such.

Is she a well-intentioned spiritual leader, with actual psychic powers? Is she a fraud, making money by callously manipulating and using the bereaved? Or is she something else entirely?

This site will attempt to answer these questions.

Moet, sorry I wanted to tell you Thank You earlier for getting the information you did; But I could not stop reading about Sylvia Browne. It's not right when people make money off of others misery. Moet, what do you think of this Kevin, dude? What is up with him he said that he tried to tell the authorities where Morgan was and they would not listen to him? If he has a website, I would like to check that out. Thank you again.

I didnt see any websites on him really Sandy...just your usual Facebook and twitter things and most of that consists exclusively of This (morgan harrington) case.
And I found one interesting POST that he made in december of 2009 on a site involving remote viewing. Where he states hes "recently received a calling to
get into this profession" and has information he feels should be heard...but hes NEW at it. So basically this was his first Case according to That site.

No, sorry Sandy, I don't know who Kevin McNeil is. Sounds like saint dug up all the info there is. Glad you liked the Sylvia page, though!

AAAAH I wish I had'nt missed this Sylvia Browne topic. My mom bought alot of her books and video thanks to montel williams introducing her to the world. I have to say I never really knew what to make of her. I will have to check the site out.
I also was in no way claiming to speak to the dead in my earlier postings. (I am sure most of you realize that just want to clarify.) But the intuition thing has happened to me alot! In fact the whole way I find this site TCR was typing in the name Jeffrey Plishka, a guy arrested in my home town who I had this feeling about from day one. Partly because he wore that just(not right vibe) or whatever, also I had a dream about him chasing me into the woods and burning it down around me. Like a few months later he was arrested for a 20 year old rape and murder of a young lady. Its on this site. It is just different instances in our lives when we are highly intune with things we might not otherwise notice. So in believing in that I have to believe maybe there is more there that the average man/woman can't tap into it.But maybe someone can.
Mentalist and illusionists (sp?) are kinda intresting too. There is alot of things I don't know about that I have always been curious. BTW my handle comes from Guns n Roses Use your Illusions! Nothing to do with the topic ;)

cool IllusionS, nothing wrong with that either. What you describe is a form of Synchronicity, and MANY people have spoken of similar accounts so much that there has to be something to it I Think.

You would probably like searching up something on Paralinguistics..
it covers a fairly wide range of things from kinesics (reading body/facial expressions) to Reverse speech interpretation, and Unconscious Speech interpretation etc et al. (ohhh also Apophenia, and Paredolia (sp?) are interesting
phenomenon)

pareidolia.

Well Jeremy I am not exactly seeing faces in the clouds LOLOLOLOL!!!!! :) But I get what you mean. ;) I say this jokingly because that is how wikapedia describes pareidolia. I have heard of the synchronicity thing before. My mom was into reading like Edgar cayce when I was a kid and I ching, and she also I think puts some credit to our birth signs ,I am a scorpio, so quick to lash out senselessly. LOL "Watch out for that tail of yours", she'd say, (My Big mouth) her reference. So many things that average people don't know that our possibilities are utterly limitless. Food for thought kids :)

I haven't forgot about this case for 1 day since it happened. I am constantly reviewing and studying as much information as i can in order to help the investigation if possible.

I want to keep Morgan alive in everyones memory and for her parents I want justice. We will find him. No matter what it takes.

Finding Chelsea King Live on facebook

http://docs.google.com/View?id=df6wf5fg_327fj8m6bfw

Charlottesville is only two hours from where I live.

Such a tragedy, and she was so young.

Kevin McNeill Lucy Lucke April 28 at 5:37pm Hey,I 1st saw you on katie McCarthys page & where you predicted she would be home in 48 hrs. You were right, I think that is amazing. When I was younger I too could tap into peoples energies (sometimes I still can) but it scared me & I stopped..I've never told anyone that. I know alot of people don't believe you...but I do. I would love to know more about your gift... Love always, Lucy

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I have followed Morgan's disappearance since that October night.
Since I'm a retired teacher I watch Nancy Grace and have time to
worry about all the missing people that she keeps in front of her
viewers. My heart is broken for all of you since she was found in
that field. I am the mother of a 40 year old son and if he were
murdered, I would stop at nothing til I put the person away for life.
Thirty-eight year old Kristi Cornwell went missing in GA in Aug 09
while talking to her boyfriend as she took her nightly walk. Few clues
and her mother is a retired teacher who is absolutely devastated.
I feel that when cases are not getting leads it hurts nothing to think
out of the box. I messaged Kevin McNeil on FB and he knew
nothing about Kristi, but said he would use his training to find her.
He did respond to my request with what is a possible solution,
one not arrived at from LE. And one with possible leads to
research to see if true. Some LE uses psychics, etc,, but if my
son were missing, I would ask everybody for help. Kevin has
made some small mistakes in telling some things and received
criticism, but I looked over that and glad I did. Perhaps Kristi's
killer will be finally found. I would encourage you to seek Kevin's
gift, even if you don't believe or like what he tells you. Some of it
could be true and hasn't been thought of yet by LE. I pray every
day for justice and peace for the deceased ones and their
families and friends. I did leave you my idea about what
happened and I hope you read it. I have no special gifts other
than wisdom from being 63 and a mom. I pray Morgan's
deviant killer is caught and removed from our society so SHE
can't do it again, and if I'm wrong, HE or they can't kill again.
Morgan and her family were and are blessed to be so kind to each
other. You were exceptional parents for giving her freedom to
live and experience life. I'm sure Alex enjoys having trusting
parents.
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William ACrissey Kevin,you are proof that good people still exist in America ,and care about our well being ! Thanks for your concerns and work.Chief Crissey
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Sr.Sp.Agent William A. Crissey U.S.A.,D.O.D., Pentagon ret.
Yesterday at 3:07pm via Email Reply ·

Carol Hartman At least one sensible person is behind you. His credentials tell he has lots of criminology under his belt. I love what he told you! I knew it would happen!! Congrats!!!
Yesterday at 3:20pm via Facebook Mobile ·

William ACrissey Kevin,I wish I was still in Law Enforcement,I would help you all I could.Keep doing a great job Son,God is with you ! Bill
Yesterday at 3:56pm ·

An organized group of satanists took Morgan Dana Harrington...They had been hunting her for years. they are all over that area. They have infiltrated the police the media and our leadership. You will never get justice from the very same people who did it, thats just the sad reality I am seeing.

They took he and as a unified unit..threw up enough flack as to confuse you all. And then offered their help to the Harrington to insure the truth was never known. That part of the year is a Satanic holiday and I would expect the same thing next year in that area and ever year as it has been a pattern in that area for over 400 years.

No one "Good" wants to know this.
No one "Bad" will admit this.

I walk the middle path...So.. I see everything.

I understand all of your confusion and pain. Most of you are very limited and i applaud your courage for remaining so. I on the other hand could never tolerate the limited worlds that seem to interest you all so much.

As far as my connection with Morgan Harrington, most of you even the dimmest of you have heard of the term Soul mates and have a limited understanding of such terminology.

Morgan is actually my Twin Flame...a rare partnership between souls that is seldom understood and rare indeed.

In your limited context you have attempted to understand the vastness of an unlimited viewpoint. My own... For that attempt I applaud you all. For how can the blind ever understand those whom have sight, its like a def person trying to understand Mozart..it is quite difficult.

I will continue on to other places where I may be of service until the time where the Humans get it that their is a world where their are no secrets and the truth is know by all.

And people think I'm mentally unstable...

Fool's seldom recognize Genius!

Kevin McNeil Yes and they broke her spine and ribs from the rear and above. Most other damage was done post modem to confuse the investigation. They may have even run a car over the body...and head.
32 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil From my point of view they had been hitting her allot to scare her into submission...their would have been multiple strike wounds if ind-deed that could be detected at this point. Toxicological reports should show that she had been drinking as they had been forcing her to drink. And if they are not involved in the cover up they will detect the presence of PCP in her system.

Why they never say anything about the glaringly obvious Tire tracks found from the truck on the scene of the crime. or the fact that she was found less then 300 yards from someones door step..Is more proof of a cover up.
28 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil I would also say that her undergarment were never found.
26 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil The owner of the farm Returned her she was not found...Returned on or near her mothers birthday. And on the 101st day = lol to them.
24 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil I have looked into about 70 cases now and some people from all over the country and the world. In law enforcement the military, the media and politics are behind me more and more everyday.
21 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil So keep on attacking me Libby it just shows the world what you are..damaged goods a victim of ha-nous acts.

I say forgive the perpetrator who ruined your young adult life and move on. After all your still alive. Thank god =).
18 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil From what I am seeing she may have drowned in her own blood as her rib cage ripped into her lungs. She would also have suffered multiple strikes to the head and torso. Some of the damage to her skeleton was post morderm and many of the fractures were created to confuse investigators. I am not sure what they had done to her hands but I see something strange their. Is is obvious but I will reiterate that she was repeatedly raped by multiple perpetrators.

How bout them apples an all from 3,600 hundred miles away.
9 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil The idioms including her purse and cell phone were all planted post morderm. She actually survived for over Seven days longer than they are saying she died around 4am on the 25th.
7 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil Their are three men who are primarily responsible two of whom go to UVA. One of the men involved worked at the concert hall. One of the young men had dated Morgan before her death and may have befriended her through social media.
4 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil One of the perpetrators possibly the Murderer may have recently committed suicide.
3 minutes ago ·

Kevin McNeil Authorities in that area are corrupt you will never have justice. Some patsy may be blamed. as they intend to do the same thing next Halloween..their are a large group of satanists in that area. They practice ritual abuse in that area and have for the last 400 years as their is a vortex in Charlottesville Va.
about a minute ago ·

debunk that!

Fools are seldom humble?

Has anyone heard anything lately about this case? Last I heard, it was reported that there was serious damage to her bones. Some were speculating hit and run? Any new info on this?

I haven't heard anything new other than the damage to her bones. It could very well be a hit and run.

Ugh, I wish I knew more.

They ran their truck over her to confuse investigators. Duh!

You consider yourself to be her twin flame, and you sit here talking about this case as if you actually know what's going on, so I'm starting to wonder if you shouldn't be suspect. You definitely have the mentality for it anyway.

Oh sorry Kev, I meant from a media source. Thanks, Deborah Jean.

Deborah grow up please. I was in a secure building Monitored by the state police hundreds of miles away on the night of her October 17th.

How can you ,"Sheep" help with the Wolves as they run that whole area and are in charge of the investigation itself. You will never get justice or understanding from the very same people who are responsible for covering the whole thing up!

You talk and speculate and talk and talk. Yet all you can do is go to them..but what if their already aware of what happened and do not care. Because they do it every year rt before Halloween like clockwork for the last 400 years.

Grow up? I've never seen anyone type up so much psychobabble as I have you. I'm not sure how many are actually listening to what you have to say, but I will tell you this-

If you want someone to really listen to you, if you want your voice to be heard, then I'm sure that the employees at Bellevue Hospital would be glad to hear what you have to say.

Thats why evil rules this planet because you all so dumb!

Schizophrenia is the 9th leading cause of disability worldwide. It affects about 1% of the population. I think you fall into that 1%. Might I suggest some Seroquel, Clozaril, or Navane?

*groan* Not this Kevin guy again...

Good call, Deborah Jean.

LOL Moet...I'm just getting started with this guy.

Delusions of grandeur, hallucinations, loose associations, perseveration, shall I go on Kevin?

The sad part about this, is not knowing whether all of your ideas come from that of your paranoid schizophrenia, or if you've been watching too many movies lately. Have you been watching Medium, Blair Witch, and anything of the sort?

White People..so limited. Sad really.

White people limited?

When I first came across this article, I expected many different responses, but none like the ones that you're posting. You have filled this page with a bunch of ramblings (ramblings which reflect that of a paranoid schizophrenic). If you don't have any real evidence or facts to offer regarding this case, then why do you insist on posting any further? Every single thing that you have posted here has done nothing to help in this case. It's all jibberish, which to me, is pointless and unnecessary.
You seem to be on some kind of crusade, quite determined to have your voice of ideas be heard by all of us, and I must admit, you're putting quite a bit of effort into it. However, might I suggest you discuss these ideas with the voices in your head because they seem to care a lot more than I do.
You can continue to sit here and post as one has the right to, but understand that I'm not buying into your insanity. So do carry on with your foolishness, I'm getting a laugh from it.

Your concern seems genuine, I know you just want to help. But if the cops in the area are satanists. And the town is full of satanists. Who practice ritual human sacrifice, rape and tourture in that area every year. Then who are you going to go to for justice?

And you attack the one person who knows what is going on...Sad.

Do you have proof? If so, go to the FBI with your concerns. Or do you think they're all satanic too?

Cops in the area are satanic, have been doing it for 400 years, this is all a conspiracy....

Just as I suspected-schizophrenia of the paranoid type.

Your faith in you leadership without question is quite sad.

Fools like you keep "The Matrix" intact and make liberation from slavery impossible...

So call me names or whatever...I am not really takining to the sheep like you. Only The Wolve's know how good.. I am And how close they are to my boot!

You say that while having a faith of your own that there are people(police even)who have been doing ritualistic cult killings against humans for over 400 years in this supposed area, and it happens every year before Halloween, I have but one last question for you...

Are they all wearing Michael Myer masks?

You should write horror scripts, you're really good at this.

Actually for over 10,000 years...but you have not even noticed!

They worship The Owl Moloch...The God Of Child Sacrifice.

Oh my, I guess you better warn every parent in VA then.

Every parent on PLANET EARTH. Wake up!

lmfao

I think you should contact Rob Zombie, he'd be good at putting this on screen.

I hope they catch whoever did this to her, even if they were wearing a Michael Myers mask when doing so. Poor girl. Such a shame, I mean look at her smile....

the insanity of it all.

I have been wondering if this young lady was taken by hot air balloon and deposited in the field on that farm. That area, between VT and UVA, has quite a few places to choose from for a hot air balloon ride! I think she was killed somewhere near UVA and taken up in a balloon in the early morning or early evening in order to throw her body, undetected, in this farmer's field of hay. The police and FBI should check out this type of lead. It would solve the mystery of how she got there, when getting there is virtually impossible without a four-wheeler, etc. It would also explain her multiple fractures. I also wonder if someone from security at UVA initially took her and brought her cell phone and purse back to the parking lot afterwards! They act as valets to people who need rides. These people need to be checked out too!

You are all hopeless...they used a truck. Not a jet a hot air balloon and they didn't fed ex her. A 4 wheeler duh!

Kevin: Were you there? Duh! Go back to your Ouigi board!!

Deb, you're too damn funny=)

When it comes to peoples lives... I don't joke.

Joke?

You sit here and claim that a satanic cult is responsible for this girl's death. I'm not saying that such cults don't exist, but the likelihood of this cult doing the same thing every year around Halloween for over 400 years is absurd.

Actually, I'm starting to wonder if you're not a fan of the movie series Urban Legend. I think you're ideas are leaning toward that.

Operation Smokescreen: The Cover-Up In the Morgan Dana Harrington Case!

Yes and they broke her spine and ribs from the rear and above. Most other damage was done post modem to confuse the investigation. They may have even run a car over the body...and head.

From my point of view they had been hitting her allot to scare her into submission...their would have been multiple strike wounds if ind-deed that could be detected at this point. Toxicological reports should show that she had been drinking as they had been forcing her to drink. And if they are not involved in the cover up they will detect the ... presence of PCP in her system.

Why they never say anything about the glaringly obvious Tire tracks found from the truck on the scene of the crime. or the fact that she was found less then 300 yards from someones door step..Is more proof of a cover up.

I would also say that her undergarment were never found.

The owner of the farm Returned her she was not found...Returned on or near her mothers birthday. And on the 101st day = lol to them.

I have looked into about 70 cases now and some people from all over the country and the world. In law enforcement the military, the media and politics are behind me more and more everyday.

So keep on attacking me Libby it just shows the world what you are..damaged goods a victim of ha-nous acts.

I say forgive the perpetrator who ruined your young adult life and move on. After all your still alive. Thank god =).

From what I am seeing she may have drowned in her own blood as her rib cage ripped into her lungs. She would also have suffered multiple strikes to the head and torso. Some of the damage to her skeleton was post morderm and many of the fractures were created to confuse investigators. I am not sure what they had done to her hands but I see something... See More strange their. Is is obvious but I will reiterate that she was repeatedly raped by multiple perpetrators.

How bout them apples an all from 3,600 hundred miles away.

The idioms including her purse and cell phone were all planted post morderm. She actually survived for over Seven days longer than they are saying she died around 4am on the 25th.

Their are three men who are primarily responsible two of whom go to UVA. One of the men involved worked at the concert hall. One of the young men had dated Morgan before her death and may have befriended her through social media.

One of the perpetrators possibly the Murderer may have recently committed suicide.

Authorities in that area are corrupt you will never have justice. Some patsy may be blamed. as they intend to do the same thing next Halloween..their are a large group of satanists in that area. They practice ritual abuse in that area and have for the last 400 years as their is a vortex in Charlottesville Va.

debunk that you meddling nut!

Or 101 airborne as an inside joke. As the perpetrators help runs as high as the military in that area.

They think its funny how stupid you all are to even consider that in Virginia blond's ...

Just fall from out of the sky! ... See More

And the Funniest thing of all to them is you keep attacking the one person besides them who seems to know what happened because he is gifted enough to see them...in Action.

So from my perspective you are either on their side or and idiot. A because I feel your distorted background I don't put it past you that you yourself are indeed...suspect...complicit...supportive. Of ,"The Smokescreen" I see hear and feel surrounding her death.

After all who wants to spoil next years fun.. rt! Sicko's!

Well you picked the wrong girl...And you woke up GODZILLA who happens to be attached to this wonderful young lady.

When I am done the whole area will be nothing but a warning, to satanists everywhere...As I have been hunting their kind for eons..

The Purse the cell phone and the T-ee shirt are not Bombshells...Just Flack to confuse the enemy. As Morgans killers had allot of help throwing up enough bs to confuse the public.

Cover Up-

1. Never do they track the cell phone...as it would be obvious that it had left the arena with Morgan and was returned later as a plant..But they never bring that up.

2. She was never on the bridge so who faked a K-9 getting a scent their?... See More

3. No one saw her that night as well as she was in a farmed flied fighting for her life.

4. No one ever talks about what phone calls were received by the Basses the night she disappeared. As that might be real evidence.

5. No one talks about the multiple sightings thrown up by known complicit members nationwide. Members of Operation: Morgan smokescreen.

6. No one Talks about the fact that someone could have just brought her ticket stub out to her rt...She had just gotten in with it..Why leave her stub yet take her purse and her cell phone to the bathroom? Why take everything to the bathroom but you ticket stub?

7. Blonds from the sky?

8. Found on Day lol.

9. Near Her mothers b-day?

10. And the Bs story about her being in "The middle of nowhere when she was less then 300 yards from someones back yard?

Go to the cops where who and why would they care...They would not even let the Media interview Mr. bass who I guess at this time is still Baffled that the young lady was on his lawn. Even though he could hardly remember her name on film. he seemed very aware of the search for her, and its long drawn out nature. But never mentions his concern for his own family. Strange considering the past of the area around his home? And the rt 29..Killer?

And If she took everything to the bathroom but her ticket stub...why not just call into the concert to get her stub...Would that not be the next move of a college aged student. Or would she forgo the WHOLE concert just so she would not trouble her friends to get off their asses?

Smells very fishy to me. Sorry Libby if the Attention I am bringing ... all positive and helpful to Morgans case seems to mess with your agenda? Did not another young woman get killed in that same area just the other day...Need i say More about the corruption and Evil nature of the Area in general. Or should I point out the be-headings, the couples disheartening in the area. or the Mass shootings, or the baby being killed even before their out of their mothers wombs..in that area.

I have never even heard of anything like that in Dc just a few miles away...An area that used to be. the Murder capitol of the World.
about a minute ago ·

So call me crazy for caring about what happens in the town where my Mother lives, My bad....

Maybe I should just forget about her to and write the whole area off.·

And thanks Frank who ever you are!

kevin you need to pick a personality and stick with it...really. Your story has went from rapist rednecks, and now to satanists who targeted this girl for years..i'm glad that youre not actively involved in any investigations and Have NO SAY. Otherwise the world would be much worse.

Rapist, rednecks, who are satanists, and have connections...its all the same to me...They are just the killes that what I call them. I dont care what flag they fly..Theirs a few diffrent groups connected to these individuals as their are multipule perpetrators.

That's why evil wins because good is dumb...So dumb indeed...that for thousands of years they have been getting away with murder..And all you do is...nothing.

dumb sheep..Blind Dumb sheep...Mabye I am on the wrong team.

Kevin...

Go.

Away.

my eyes are burning...

Actually (kevin/frank) seldomly does anything good occur in the world without at once producing a corresponding evil, or chain of evils. To make a statement like that indicates you're not on either side, and as you have posted previously you "walk the middle path" of apathy which places you somewhere in between. (depending on what day and personality you ask apparently.) As far as sheep?...mmm...lost sheep grazing in wolf infested pastures more likely, at least for most....unfortunately it just takes a different kind of wolf sometimes. One who knows the difference but can Make more of a difference by doing whats in its nature to serve the Greater Good. (thus effectively denying the more sinister aspects of itself) Since youre a fan of the metaphor i figured you may appreciate this one sport....take care.

It seems Kevin has found an even newer identity to agree with himself LOL. At least he has a "following" he follows himself. Still spouting the ridiculous and absued along with these conspiracy theories. WOW. He wakes up every morning on the wrong side of crazy!!

Sad ending. I hopr they catch the A-hole that did this.

To Kangaroo -

You clearly have never been on a farm or worked hay fields.

All that stuff that you think is "supsicious" is typical at every farm.

Fences on our hay fields were only checked about every 4-6 months.. At the end of the hay season (which would be about August for them in VA.. Which is why he hadn't cut the "grass" as you so eloquently put it).

Know what you're talking about before you start laying the blame on a man who was just doing his job.

Kevin is a paranoid schizophrenic who uses alter egos to communicate with himself to present himself as believable. He is all over facebook with tons of aliases and groups. Please don't give him any more attention. It feeds his obsessiveness. He is chemically imbalanced and can't control himself.

Kevin McNeil strikes me as a real looney. He'd fit right in with the other loonies on findmorgan.com who sit around reading t-leaves and tossing theories back and forth. The Harringtons chose to hire a publicist rather then a PI and this is the end result.

Additionally, although Morgan certainly didn't deserve the terrible fate that befell her, she was far from the Cindy Brady innocent victim/ Martyr that the Media and findmorgan.com members portray her as.

WOW. never read this story before. And the comments? WOW

Not sure what to make of the Kevin/Frank comments. If this(or these) person(s) really know something, i can't understanding the law wanted to know this information. A lot of police departments and agencies use phycis now a days. so just dont understand that. Can't commen on what has been said to "prove" this person's "visions". But to speak in the 3rd party is very scary. Either this person is real and has actual insight or he is a sick puppy! Can't believe his claim that he offered information and not one agency or group or her family took the information. If it was my child, i would have just to hear it. Even if i knew to keep myself protected from any scams. So that's all i can say about these "persons"

No one seems to say this child asked to be murdered. But i saw a lot of comments blaming HERSELF for this. And to tear the family apart like this is so sad.

I hope that the law will someday find out what really happened and bring the killer(s) to justice. Can't point fingers at names of people as i dont know this story or the situation. But it seems a few ppl on here are comfortable to do just that.

I agree with Moet and MCR, (and anyone else you said this) This is NOT the forwum for posting what these people have been posting.

My only other thought: If what this Kevin/Frank person(s) have said is anyway true, then wouldn't anyone think that maybe him/they had something to do with this murder and can prove he/they had prior knowledge, I would really look at him/them! Because as i see it: only the killer/killers and the vitim know exactly what happened that night. I wasn't there and i'm almost positive no one on here was there (i would hope not!)

It's true what is always said: nuts come out for attention when a horrible crime is committed.

Wow. RIP Morgan. Peace and love to your family and friends. Judgement will be handed down upon your killer(s) in due time. If not within the laws of man then when the angle of death makes his apperance to those who did wrong to you.

Jason ... you are obviously involved in this case in some way.
friend of rso? attacking findmorgan.com ... why?
i wonder why you are so adamant about discrediting Kevin and anyone who may have insight as to what happened. it really seems when someone hits very close to the mark, certain people get upset and say "looney" or "crazy" or anything but look at it objectively. you don't really seem to contribute anything other than whenever someone steps up with a theory or idea, you go defensive and imply Morgan murdered herself. hmmm ... i wonder what you are hiding? how do you know there is no PI?
how do you know the PI isn't investigating you?

She a beautiful girl and probably a good girl. Its a shame. Why do so many people kill people? This is a crazy, crazy world. God bless her family.

I want my name and comments pertaining to me removed from this blog. It mentions me in association with kevin g mcneil. That is unacceptable since ive done nothing am not dead or newsworthy and have never posted on your blog. You have no permission to have my name posted on your site.

hi Charlene ... how long have you and Kevin G McNeil been friends?