James Swan Chokes Mom, Smashes Head Through Wall, in Argument Over World of Warcraft

It was his SON that he threw, not his little brother!!

I only saw one source saying it was his son and it's the Herald-Tribune, which has a tendency to beef up their stories. What are the odds a 27-year-old gamer who lives with his mom has ever gotten laid?

@ Mcr, are you really that idiotic? Maybe it wasn't it son, but just because your a gamer who lives with your mom doesn't mean you haven't been laid lol... I mean come on, he is a super badass who pwns Warcraft, and beats his mom... Who wouldn't have sex with him? That's what girls look for these days remember.

I'm guessing you and him are rather similar and that's why you're:

A) Using the term "pwned"
B) Defending his actions
C) Have the word "stoned" in your name

I smoke pot, too, but there comes a time when you grow up and stop glorifying it and making it you're entire persona.

And you're right, he probably has been laid by nerdy little high school chicks who will look back in a few years and wonder why the hell they let that guy stick his penis in them.

Not at all buddy. The nickname has been with me for about 8 years now. Either way, I was just saying, he has probably been laid. You don't need to get all Mr. A,B,C on me now do ya? And I don't smoke pot anymore, soo... Not really sure how to make you feel better on that one. Also, look how stupid these little kids are now adays, its sad, but they probably were "In Love" with him when he was 23 and they were 14.

No one knows the regrets of a 14-year-old girl like myself. Been there, done that...except I didn't fuck gamers or fatties. I just lied about my age to stupid 20-year-old boys.

Ouch. It would be hard to accomplish that today, pretty much every boy over the age or 8 is a gamer. At any rate, its pretty fu**ed up that one would do something like that to his mother, Brother (Or son), and grandfather.. I mean cm'on... You cant make this kind of stuff up..

well, we cant really assume anything, he probably got laid, he probably didnt.
we dont know. however, mcr that first comment was pretty hilarious.
i totally think its appropriate to poke fun and tease a jerk like this guy (no pun intended)

Pete Kotz said:

Can someone please explain to me my what the word "pwned" means? Sorry, I'm very uncool and need remedial linguistics lessons.

I'll give you the definition from urbandictionary.com:

A corruption of the word "Owned." This originated in an online game called Warcraft, where a map designer misspelled "owned." When the computer beat a player, it was supposed to say, so-and-so "has been owned."

Instead, it said, so-and-so "has been pwned."

It basically means "to own" or to be dominated by an opponent or situation, especially by some god-like or computer-like force.
"Man, I rock at my job, but I still got a bad evaluation. I was pwned."

OR

"That team totally pwned us."

Oh, and the fact that you didn't know what it meant actually means you're super cool! ;)

Pete Kotz said:

Thanks, MCR. I kind of figured that it meant the same thing; my vast and stretching uncoolness led me to believe it was a typo when I've seen it before.

mcr, what the hell is your issue with gamers? I've been a gamer (not a world of warcraft player, mind you) for almost 12 years and I turn 20 in two months, yet I have gotten laid plenty of times and still do. Not all gamers are like this guy. In fact, we of the gamer community have a name for guys like him; we call them WoW Junkies. Not all WoW players are like him either; in fact, stories like this are actually very rare. But, since you don't see stories about the people who have succeeded and done good in people's lives and them having once been, or still are, gamers... you seem to think we all are like this guy here. Good to know you smoke pot, because that's SO much more mature than playing video games.

The first three sentences of this article told me all I need to know. Actually, the two sentences, but the fact that mom told him to quit, added to it. :-)

I wonder if he yelled out "Leeeeroy Jenkinsssss" as he did it.
Seriously though- what a douchebag. Why don't parents kick loser kids out?

Um, what does smoking pot have to do with maturity? It's not like that's all I do. Just on occasion.

And only a lame ass gamer would get so offended by a joke. I wouldn't doubt you've been laid. The stupid people breed a lot faster than the rest of us.

This is what happens when you name your kid Swan, wtf.

Whoops missread that, hes just a douchebag then.

lol mcr the dudes being sarcastic in his first comment, cmon...

Shame that there are going to be people who use this extreme incident as reflective of the behaviors of the other 12 million+ people who play WoW.

And mcr; going on a tirade against people who have interests that differ from your own isn't proving anything. Certainly not how mature you think you are.

oh...my...god...

If one more asshole gamer takes what I said seriously, I will go to the nearest Gamestop and break all the video game consoles.

MAybe I am just getting old or what I don't know, but I think alot of these games really do desensetize kids from an early age on that and the blatant violence we hear more and more about out here in the real world. It just is sad to see how many whack's there are in the world!

what logan said

I believe that the whole he did it over WoW thing to be a load of bullocks. The guy is drunk and being loud as drunks are, mum asks him to be quiet and then he attacks, he just so happens to be playing a game when the incident occurs and the media tries to blame it on the game.

@AnonymousBlond you are getting old, there has been and will always be random acts of violence

@AnonymousBlond - I just watched an episode of Penn & Teller's Bulls@#! the other night that was about the supposed links to violence and gaming. The result? There was no correlation. As a matter of fact, non-gamers tended as a group to be more violent than gamers. I guess gamers just get a chance to work it out of their systems.

Did'nt mean to leave my post incomplete, I did'nt mean I thought games made kids violent, just desensetized to violence.

I think some of you may be missing the point,
For whatever reason he is at home, drinking and playing WOW. I expect he's not putting his share into the house and ALL of those kids, maybe if one or more are his.
Things that are confirmed: He is a rude sh*thead who needs to wake up and get out of the house occasionally instead of sitting there drunk and playing games, loudly late into the night. He wants to kill the people that provide him with a roof over his head and an internet connection because he got interupted while being a selfish prat.
It's a shame he just got a slight wound, a bit to the right would have solved the problem permanantly but I am happy he got arrested and I will be happier when I see this guy get his day in court for being a prick.

I don't think that media of any type is desensitizing the kids of the world. I think it all boils down to parents haven't been able to discipline children like they used to over 30 years ago. Back in the early 70's teachers could use corporal punishment, now parents can't even use it. Neighbors used to manhandle bad kids and take them to their parents for punishment. Kids now days are not learning respect, because parents have become whoosies, not allowing others to touch their kids. That and it's against the law to even yell at a kid anymore.

And this mother letting a 27 year old punk living in her house is just wrong. Any kid beyond college age at a parent's house needs a boot out the door. Punks like that need to learn from the school of hard knocks.

The Harvard Medical School Center for Mental Health and British Medical Journal have found no correlation between exposure to video game violence and aggression.

Violent crimes in the US have been decreasing drastically since the 1990's, despite the explosion of the genre.

As for commenters, if you're only here to spread your personal biases, please don't waste anyone's time.

@mcr- Your sooo cool. Hilarious comments.

@ Monarch , "not allowing other's to touch there kids?" WTF in short your saying kids need more beatings by people other than there parents?

this individual was obviously mentally unbalanced already. I'm sure if it wasn't a video game it would have been taking out the trash, or something else. I hate when the media specifically tries to paint it as the fault of the video game industry...

This is where I put the smart comments, right?

Weird. I was 99% positive that anyone that played WoW couldn't beat up anyone.. other than maybe a bigger WoW nerd.

Edward what smart comments? lol joking :)

This guy does not represent us.

@AnonymousBlond
I don't blame you for thinking this, it's what a lot of the media has tried to blame violence on, and the media has a very large impact on how people perceive things. However, I think in most cases, you're wrong on this issue. I've played violent games since I was a kid, and it's not that I get any kicks from it being bloody or brutal, I just enjoy having a competitor in a game with human intelligence, rather than just shooting deer in a hunting game, etc. But I can tell you for a fact that none of the bloody games I've played have impacted my sensitivity to real-life violence. Most people have seen a couple videos from Columbine, either from the news or the movie "Bowling for Columbine", but I once came across a video (on Google) that had every little detail from those shootings. I saw everything. Even when the boys killed themselves. You can hear the victims screaming, and what the boys were saying to some of them. After I watched it, I started to shake and cry, and I couldn't sleep for hours afterward. I will never forget it. I assure you, the violence in video games does not affect people like real violence does. Only when you've played these games and seen real-life murder can you understand the difference. Just something to think about, there are tons of actors, directors and authors that create murder scenes in their heads and in real life, and maybe one in a million of them actually ever commits murder. Just because it's something fake that you see doesn't make you want to do it in real life.

Okay, this guy has problems. Contrary to what seems to be popular belief amongst readers, playing video games will NOT make you automatically go on a rampage and try to murder your family.

He took it way further than defending his gaming. If it was just about his gaming he would've stopped once he knew he could get back to it.

Jeremy -- Better watch out. If you make a joke about gamers, a little alarm goes off on their computer screens and they all come here to bitch about it.

@ Jami, I think some of what I have said has been misunderstood or I did'nt elaborate. Just yesturday I shot zombies on my tv on a wii killing game.I grew up playing mario and killing with fire power objects on a screen, and duck hunt for pete's sake!But I am also a mother and because of internet and more and more media outlets my kid can see way more violent things than I could at her age, its just a change of the times is all. and it is SO much of it in this world the generation is becoming more and more immune to the effects of things like empathy and the shock value violence should hold in the real world.

Better watch out, if you make a joke about anything, a little alarm goes off and a computer screen and mcr comes here to bitch about it.

"a little alarm goes off and a computer screen"

oooooh...nice try but you fucked that one up. Better luck next time!

I lol'd at these comments

MCR, you are fucking awesome.
That 'stupid people breed faster' thing is like the 11th Commandment. I laughed so hard, I looked down and my ass was gone =O

Have I said anything that bad tonight? I tried to leave a comment on another story and its said it been held, I don't even think it had any cuss words or anything derogatory, Have I been censored?

mcr, did a nintendo kill your family or something?

One day, eugenics will be a sad reality somewhere...

I lol'd.

I will say this some of you guys should defend the importance of others life the way you defend damn computer games ffs!

...again.

@AnonymousBlond have you ever heard of the console wars?

Yes, Toby...it was HORRIBLE!! I woke up one night to my mother screaming, and when I ran into her room, there was a Nintendo (original, not Super) wrapping the cord around my mother's neck. I tried to save her, but my efforts were futile. By the time I thought to check on the rest of the family, they were all dead. I vowed revenge on Nintendo, and I won't stop until I get it!

In all seriousness, though, the only video game console I currently own in a Super Nintendo. I had a PS2 at one point, but I let my ex take it in exchange for the Super Nintendo. I still have a bunch of PS2 games lying around, though.

You people need to learn how to take a joke. I don't care if people play video games. However, I do think it's pretty lame when someone is a total loser and still does nothing but play video games, but that goes for all losers who do nothing productive and is not specific to gamers. Everyone simmer down.

Poor mcr bless your heart how horrofic that must of been, you should of stuck with Atari they had a cute little joystick you could move around :)

The 27 year old is just a shameful, lifeless jerk who pretends to 'live' in World of Warcraft.

Oh, ES Girlie...you have no idea. The only thing that stopped it was the light gun used for Duck Hunt. When I lay down to go to sleep at night, I can't help but wonder, could I have been next? WOULD I have been next? I can still hear the screams...

:P

I hate when I make typos ment to put horrific not horrofic. And I understand u must be scarred for life poor dear, There may be a group therapy for that sort of thing, but it is'nt obviously composed by any of the gamer's on this site huh? LOL

haha...digg...

Also Pwned is older than the internet.

First known use was on a BBS in 1983 to signified "elite" or "leet" status. Amateurs...if I need to explain BBS you really know nothing...

Oh no, I had a typo, but that's okay, you caught my mistake!

I didn't know you could own video game consoles in a a Super Nintendo...

You are so smart mcr, I love you.

Non productive people are losers? Ah man.. I get it now.. Thank you so much for explaining everything to me.

I digress..

The man obviously had some mental issues, playing WoW or not. Something along the line would have been the last straw.

@MCR I think it might be more the continued and uneccesary gamer bashing and stereotyping that has followed the original comment that people are getting touchy about. Your comments really do show a lack of maturity, whether being read by a gamer or not.

And @AnonymousBlond I've grown up playing games like Duke Nukem 3d and GTA and countless numbers of other bloody and gorey games from a very young age. I've seen the same videos your daughter has been bought up with, I've watched the same TV and movies, and I am in no way desensitised by violence. Media doesn't seem to be the big cause in desensitisation, its more the crap kids see in real, every day life. Like the kid that got stabbed and killed in school the other day (not a common thing in Aus) at the age of 11, by a fellow student. Or the way kids beat each other up with parents videoing and encouraging them. The real violience not only does the physical damage, but the mental damage to everybody exposed to it.

This guy, he was just a dick, there's no scientific reasoning behind it, people have been lashing out at others like this since well before tv and video games were around to blame.

Digg +1

Have we actually degraded ourselves down this much? 27 and wrestling with mom, brother and grandpa just over a stupid video game?.....wow

LOL...I think I'm totally okay with not knowing what BBS was.

MCR, first of all, you are stupid as hell for having sex with 20 year olds when you were 14 years old. First of all those men could have had STDS seeing as they were pedophiles and second of all if they weren't and were good people who didn't know some little slutty girl was tricking them into thinking they were 17 or 18 and you both got caught, they would serve lots and lots of time in jail.

You see every comment you make of your maturity, the fact you don't have sex with fatties and gamers, (even though gamers are pretty much 99% of men 18-30 right now, not even to mention the kids playing) and the fact you throw someones comments out because of a simple typo or grammatical error, makes you look like an idiot.

You should get off the internet and go to some character building classes. And get yourself checked out for STDs, they dont always show up right away.

@ Babblez Is it just me or did you sorta echo what I had already said? More access to all the media outlets internet etc. pertaining to desensitivity?

I unfortunately can relate to this story, my brother has a similiar case of violence that has run through history of my life. As a gamer I don't particularly blame this fully on games the reason he became violent, however, it served as a catalyst, my brother has poor social skills and usually keeps to himself like he's in a protective shell. He rarely goes out in public, has no friends, and no job and he's around the same age as the person in the story.
The problem I believe can come down to is some people aren't able to balance their priorities in life and how they treat people around them. Making games a priority over your family shows a lack of responsibility in character
and virtues. What's bad is the media only recognizes mature and violent games as the problem in our society because of how successful the industry is. What it all boils down to is we need to take responsibility more for our actions and the ones around us and the generation that is yet to come or it will only grow and become worse as the years go by.

Awww, Twizzle is pissed off about stupid things I did 10 years ago when I was an attention seeking little bitch. Fuck, I'll be the first to admit it was stupid. You don't have to tell me. Kinda hard to hurt my feelings when I agree with you. And thanks for your concern, but I've never had an STD. I suppose you have more experience in that area. Tootles!

I get that we're in a recession, but someone is fueling the fire if they're allowing someone unemployed in his or her late 20's to reside in their home free of charge allowing this person to use his or her time to play video games instead of hunting for a job.

If he or she was crashing at my place, I'd make sure they'd get their ass of the couch and go look for a job to start their own life and quit mooching off of others.

I'll lend a helping hand out to my friends if they need it and are still trying to move forward, but if they're just doing nothing, it's time to gtfo.

But there are always exceptions to every rule, so you never know.

@ mcr
Tootles? Are you farting him off or something? I'm sure he's not pissed off because of your stupid actions. He's more irritated that you keep opening your cunt of a mouth and pissing your nonsense all over the internet.

What the fuck does it matter? It's not like anyone here knows who I am and I might as well be honest. That's what comes with the internet. It's not like I'm on here saying horrible things like other people who talk about how certain victims deserved to die because they worked at Hooters or calling every black perpetrator the n-word. Simmer down.

It doesn't matter really. People are just tired of specifically hearing/reading your blabbering of stupidity here and probably even real life.

That's cool, you can post your garbage onto one site for weeks.

That's a pretty good skill you have because no average person can just post on an open article! It takes a true genius to figure out how to do it!

Well done.

I know I'm a stupid cunt

MORE DOTS!!!!!
Epic Fail!
Minus 50kdps for him!!!

Yeah, and only a total tool would steal someone else's handle. Go fuck yourself.

lol sup CE

The comments are making James Swam look like a genius :)

It never fails to amaze me that as soon as somebody with obvious mental health issues does something like this, we line up to blame the game or the music or the television show or the whatever. The guy obviously had addictive tendencies given he as drinking heavily and playing WOW on what would appear to be a regular basis. If it hadn't been WOW, it would have been something else. What he did, there is absolutely no excuse for. None at all.

Having said that, I am either an extremely rare breed and I know extremely rare people or I'm more the rule and these morons are the exception. 52 million of us world wide play WOW on a regular basis and one to two idiots do stupid things. I've played for 4 1/2 years now, my husband has played since the game came out. Our family members are safe and sound. I have two degrees and hold down two jobs and yes, I'm a gamer geek. So is my husband. Obviously, our lives didn't go down the proverbial drain the minute we signed up for WOW accounts. My point is, there are shit tons of us and only a handful of people who make the rest look bad. We're not all maladjusted people who can't interact with real human beings much less for a coherent sentence.

Mcr was making jokes on this Topic, I hate it when people gang up on one person. Mcr is intelligent and witty with come backs. Could it be some of you get mad because she is female and gets the better of most of you. Therefore some of you get a little pissed off? Take a Chill Pill. This guy is ridiculous! He was playing his little game way to long, drunk and beating up family members.

Probably one of the funniest conversations I have ever read. Thank you everyone especially mcr. U are the fucking shit

Mcr,

You had me laughing the whole entire time I read these comments! Come on people! How lame are you that you take some stuff seriously! It was a joke! Have you never heard of sarcasm?!?! Probably not cause you have your heads up the games a$$! Don't take that personally! It was just another joke!

And mcr, I'm so sorry about your family. I never knew that. How horrible that must have been for you! I bet if mario was around he would have helped you! Thank goodness though that you had the gun from Duck Hunt! That probably saved your life!

Thank you, peeps. I'll be here all month. Don't forget to try the shrimp!

LOL! This shit is funny as hell.

That was some good smurfing mcr.

Cause when you talk shit about others from behind a computer screen you're just awesome!

I was joking. I wasn't calling people names like you. You're just plain rude.

This whole conversation is funny as hell.

mcr's crap cracks me up

Apparently, anyone that opposes her is a gamer.

I love how mcr is posting messages to herself using different names to give the appearance that she has support. Hilarious but sad. Someone sho look at the IPs for epic ownage.

Ahaha, calling people names and telling people they're lame asses or stupid have the same effect.

I don't recall calling someone a "Lame Ass", being classified as being polite.

bigdong, you couldn't be more wrong. Marie Heck and C.C. pretty much always agree with me because they're not morons and they've been here a lot longer than I have.

I haven't posted under anyone else's name except for the person who keeps stealing mine.

I agree with Bigdong, she is posting under multiple names to make it look like she has support. Pretty lame.

Mcr get off the internet please. We don't need your bull shit

mcr is such an insecure little girl. She really needs to grop up and stop being so sensitive whenever someone mocks her on her. Grow up and put some big girl panties on mcr. People in this world are going to disagree with you and you need to learn how to suck it up. What a childish little troll.

Actually, I'm not a troll. I've contributed a lot of serious replies to this site, make one joke on here, and all the little nerdy boys come out of the woodwork to go apeshit over it. And I'm the lame one? Okay...whatever you guys say. I couldn't care less.

And whoever keeps stealing my name and making fraudulent posts is the troll, not I.

Seriously mcr, stop posting for attention. No one cares and you are acting like a moron. Everyone is laughing at you now because you can't let this go. Have some dignity and just walk away. Oy vey!

I've seen WoW players who have lost it. They exhibit all the signs of a drug addict. I've seen hardcore gamers that put off eating (and demand that someone brings it to them), put off showering, have no social life, and never leave the house. When the power goes out, they lose it.

Take away their games and they will freak out. They will shout and get angry if their game gets disrupted. I am defiantly not saying that anywhere near close to a majority of gamers do this but that a small minority does. People with poor social skills and mental disorders (depression, anxiety, adhd, etc...) are more prone to addictions. Some use video games to mask their problems while others may use porn, television, shopping, alcohol, prescription drugs, illicit drugs, gambling, etc...

This guy is a horrible human-being and should be not be given any leniency for his actions.

People who follow me aren't morons, people who don't better watch out. Sieg Heil!

I don't think that are trying to make fraudulent posts mcr. I think they are just making a joke by continuing the "That was written by an impostor" quote.

They are however, trolling you which is why you need to just walk away. It appears as though you were stealing 6figs name, so now I am guessing they are doing it to you. Just walk away before you look any more foolish. Internet retards will argue with you until they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. That is exactly what they are doing. Have some dignity and ignore everyone here before you make yourself look as foolish as all the rest of the posters arguing with you. (this may be to late now.)

Someone, no doubt mcr, just spent five minutes typing "I have no dick" and explaining how a dick would be inverted under my name.

Now that's what I call a productive use of time!

Okay I tried to be nice about this. I'm not MCR, I'm C.C. From California I attend UCD. As far as Gamers. The only thing I know about it is that my little brother gets into trouble for being on those damn games so long. Anyone that would spend most of the day and night playing those stupid games is a moron. Maria Heck has been on this Website longer then I have. All three of us have been on here longer then all of you.
MCR, Keep up the good work!

I'm pretty sure I'm not mcr. I just happen to think most of what she says is true and, like the comments she posted on this story, are hilarious! Seriously, you little gamer dudes need to learn how to take a joke! Put down the controller, step away from the game, and learn about sarcasm! I know it might be a little strange and upsetting at first, but it will be ok. Just keep tellin yourself "it can be put on pause. It cane be put on pause. It can be put on pause." You know, kinda like how dorothy did in the wizard of oz? She got home and everything was ok, just like it will be if you step away from the game for a little while!

Keep it up, mcr! Your hilarious as sh$t! Don't let the gamer dweebs tell you any different! Most of us regulars on here know it, so who cares what they think!

You PEOPLE walk away, why should MCR? Who died and left you boss? Why don't all of you Just walk away? Besides you GAMERS CAN'T BE AWAY FROM YOUR GAMES TO LONG! Are you feeling a little sick, are your hands shacking, are you sweating? GO, GO, don't walk, RUN, RUN to your games.

Though I find it hard to disagree with an obviously brilliant renaissance man like "bigdong"... I think I want to marry you, mcr.

Well done. Keep up the good work. :)

Caps mean serious business, amiright?

People get killed for the change in their pockets. A video game rage doesn't surprise me, but is just that, rage. You see it in all walks of life and not related to any particular hobby, race, gender, or activity. Trying to tie rage to any particular example as the only cause is overlooking the overall problem for the glorified details of a particular situation. We(America) have a long history of violence that extends way before video games. All you have to do is open any city newspaper to the crime section to see numerous examples of rage spanning the gammet of activities and people. Unfortunatly, the only control you have over such things simply relates to your own behavior! Don't be "that guy"!

First of all, jesus christ C.C you need to calm down. You would sound much more intelligent if you took caps off and wrote normally like most of the people who have something say.

Second of all neither you or mcr should be insulting gamers, or anyone for that matter. You both have been sitting on this exact page for a couple hours now. The normal GAMER plays barley an hour or two a day. If even that, you both have been SITTING THERE FOR HOURS. Go get up and exercise, do some work, or read some books or some shit. I am really sad that i came back to this conversation.

You both sound stupid, you both are stupid, you all should stop feeding these two imbeciles fire so they shut up make a new handle and continue on with there LIVES.

pwnage pwnage pwnage pwnage pwnage. Do I make you all randy with my pwnage?

Your joking right, I have been on this topic for about 30 minutes. If anyone has been insulted it has been MCR by you GAMERS. If you don't like my CAPS to bad. No Gamers don't play for an hour or two your full of crap. Go back and read what Joe Schmo posted that is what your average gamer is.
Your an idiot you sound like a child that can't get his own way.
Now this is funny: "You both sound stupid, you both are stupid, you all should stop feeding these two imbeciles fire so they shut up make a new handle and continue on with there LIVES." LOL Go back to playing your GAMES

Twizzle.
Go ahead cry for me Cry Baby

C.C. posts.
"Posted 02/16/2010 at 01:38:22 AM""

"Posted 02/16/2010 at 03:11:07 AM""
You have been here for much longer than 30 minutes. You are closing in on two hours. I am a gamer and I played games for one hour and 45 minutes today. I waste a lot of time on the internet but I am man enough to admit it. You and mcr act like you are better than gamers but you are time wasters just like the rest of us. You just put it into bulletin board posts and probably face book. As far as time wasted though, we are no different. I just kill pixelated dragons while you waste your time reading blogs and arguing with people you don't agree with. Our time is equally wasted though.

"C.C. said:

Twizzle.
Go ahead cry for me Cry Baby"

Wow, this is how a contributing adult member of society acts? I'll stick with the gamers then. You attack Twizzle, who made a good argument and this is your rebuttal? Grow up man.

I am done trying to bring some civility and actual debate to this thread. It is nothing more than C.C. and mcr doing the proverbial "I know you are but what am I?" routine.

I am going to go play some Team Fortress 2. I imagine C.C. will still be here throwing out sophomoric insults when I get back. Later all.

Everyone who comments on this thread is a loser.

Whatever, peeps. I really don't care what anyone who has no idea who I am says about me. The fact is, I've been on my computer all night, yes, it's called homework and studying. I love this website, I won't lie. I love true crime stories and the #1 reason I decided to go to law school is because I want to prosecute the bastards who pull shit like this. That's why I don't care what you people think. No matter what I say on here, or what you people think of me, I'm doing better than 99% of people my age, and it's hard to forget that when you come from a town full of losers and fuck ups. So, carry on, people. It doesn't affect me in the long wrong. It's just a minor annoyance that you people show up and shit all over a website I happen to frequent.

And boondocksaint -- not that it matters, but 6Figs had stolen my name hours ago and posted me "admitting" that I'm a cunt. So don't tell me that I did it first, because that's absolutely not true. If all the little WoW fans didn't burst into tears every time someone makes a joke about their lifestyle, none of this would have happened. You people need to lighten up.

As for your "average gamer," I have never met anyone who just dabbles in WoW. My ex's 46-year-old uncle manages a Safeway and then goes home and sits on his computer at all hours playing WoW. What a shocker...never been in a relationship and has no kids. The fact is, if society hadn't rejected you in some way, you'd be out there with the rest of us instead of hiding inside your house playing a ridiculous game. I find it sad that your only joys in life seem to consist of video games and berating people on the internet for cracking about said video games. Get a life.

Long run*

It's been a long day.

C.C. -- Thanks for the support, but it's seriously not worth it. No matter what any of the rational people say, the cray gamers are going to keep at it. Remember, they have a lot more time on their hands.

Nighty night, douchebags.

boondocksaint,
You not only waste your time playing your little game, you can't add. 2:39-3:16 Okay lets add together 47 minutes. I'm sorry I was 17 minutes over what I said I was.
You and some of your little gamer buddies are the ones throwing "out sophomoric insults" Do you people have jobs, families, something besides playing games?

Your right MCR, I have class tonight. Talk to you later. Good night Marie.

Boondocksaint,

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure the time is right. The comment I posted above (it says I did it at 2:49) I did it about 10 minutes ago. I know that for a fact because I got a text right when I hit "post" from a friend sayin she hadn't had her baby yet. Then I just looked at my clock and its been 10 minutes since she sent me that text, which means it was 10 minutes ago that I posted my comment. Now, according to the time of your post, which was at 3:18, it says that my comment was posted about 30 minutes or so before yours. A little strange I think.

Like I said could be wrong, but I don't think I lost 20 minutes or so.

And its like the whole gamer "insult" from mcr, who cares! Maybe they are researching for a paper and came back to see what new comments had been put on here. Or maybe they are like me. I'm reading other stories and see at the bottom that there have been new comments, so I go check them out. Doesn't make me lame. I have been sick for 4 days so I have been trying to catch up on stories here. Plus I'm bored and can't sleep!

As far as all gamers being lame. I don't think that's what they are meaning. I think they are meaning the people like the douchebag this story is about. People who do NOTHING but play games. And yes, I'm sad to say, they are pretty lame. But so is someone who does nothing but drink or get high or gamble or anything else. If a stupid game interfers with a persons life, like it so obviously did this guy, then yes, it is sad and lame. My 5 year old nephew goes to school and the minute he gets home from school, he is on his stupid ninetendo ds til he goes to bed. Before, it wasn't so bad because my mother-in-law (who they lived with) would take it away from him. But now that my sister-in-law moved out, that's all that boy does. Now, to me a 5 year old has no business even having something that expensive and useless. But if his "mother" feels the need to occupy him with a video game so she doesn't have to entertain him, she could at least get him a leap frog or v-smile so he could play a game that was actually educational as well as fun. I allow my daughter only 30 minutes every other day to play on her v-smile, with the exception of road trips. I do not want her to have her nose stuck in a video game all day long. Why? Because there are more important things in life besides a video game.

Your right MCR, I have class tonight.Good night Marie

I am looking at C.C.s first post and it shows him postinh at 1:39am and his most recent post is now at 3:43am. In my post where I called him out on his time, I quoted this posting times.

This is a direct copy and paste of C.C's first post on this subject. """ C.C. said:

Mcr was making jokes on this Topic, I hate it when people gang up on one person. Mcr is intelligent and witty with come backs. Could it be some of you get mad because she is female and gets the better of most of you. Therefore some of you get a little pissed off? Take a Chill Pill. This guy is ridiculous! He was playing his little game way to long, drunk and beating up family members.
Posted 02/16/2010 at 01:38:22 AM"""

See where it says "1:38am?" and now his most recent post is
""" C.C. said:

Your right MCR, I have class tonight.Good night Marie
Posted 02/16/2010 at 03:43:50 AM"""""

How is that not over two hours.

Furthermore, you do C.C. and mcr insist that they are better than people that play games. You guys waste time, just like gamers and you say that gamers are insulting you, yet I have seen the two of you throw out just as many insults on here back at them. mcr you admit to stealing 6figs name to mock him because he did it to you first. How is that being mature and rising above the childish bullshit? All you are doing is lowering yourself to his level and being just as immature.

I know you guys want to defend each other, but by not rising above the faux gamers who are posting on here and calling you names and then slinging the shit back at them is making all of you look just as bad. If not worse because you are literally arguing and fighting with 12-20 year olds who have nothing better to do with their time than to argue with you. By insulting them back and saying things like "they started it" you sound just as childish.

I am trying to help you here. I am a gamer yet I have not name called or mocked. Yet you continue to insult me too. Why? Because some 12 year old "gamer" made fun of you earlier? Grow up and stop grouping everyone together. Not all gamers live with their parents and not all gamers are single and lonely. I play WoW with my wife and all of our married friends. We had a "couples" guild in WoW where we all spend time socializing and playing the game. On the weekends we get together and go out for some real life interaction. Not all gamers are as you stereotype them.

Boondocksaints,

You are right. Not all gamers are the same. I don't recall anyone saying they are. Its the ones like the guy from the story who I am talking about. The ones that do nothing but play games. And you, as a "gamer" have to admit that they aren't "passing time" as you say. They are way more than addicted to that lifestyle. It consumes their everyday. And I'm sorry, but when you have a story where a 27 year old "man", who still lives with his mom and shares a room with his younger siblings, lashes out against his family because he is drinking and being rowdy and playing a game and they want to sleep, that is a loser. I don't really know anyother word to describe it. I really don't. If he wanted to stay up all night and get drunk and play games, he should get his own house.

About C.C. How do you know that she spent that whole two hours or so on this story? Seems to me if she did, there would be a lot more comments from her. She could have left one, went on to a different story, or even a different website, and came back. I do that often myself.

I just think this is ridiculous. People gettin offened over a joke. Its not like she told a racist joke or anything. She made a funny comment about a gamer. That's it. And people are taking offense to it. Please. And while yes I do agree, boondocksaints, it may have gone on for too long, you also have to admit that the gamers are just being highly sensitive. They aren't making other gamers look better coming on here and being cry babies.

If you took offense to that joke, you really need to get out more. I'm naturally blonde but I don't get offended and act like a cry baby anytime someone makes a blonde joke, and there are TONS of those!

I agree with what mcr said earlier. If one more gamer gets his panties in a bunch over a freakin joke, I'm gonna go to gamestop and break all the games! Then, that way you will have something real to cry about!

I don't even know what "joke" mcr made. I am commenting on how both her and C.C. have lowered themselves to the level of the "gamers" on this site by fighting with them. Everyone of them looks childish and immature. mcr and C'C' aren't doing this site any favors by lowering themselves to that of the ones they claim acted immature.

As for the guy in the story, he is horrible but I would not call him a gamer. He is an addict. If he didn't have games he would find some other outlet to get addicted to. Scum is scum regardless of the flavor.

My whole point from the beginning since I started posting was that mcr simply needed to stop replying to the morons arguing with her because she is making herself look equally moronic by fighting with them. The name calling spewed from both sides is childish and nothing gets accomplished. No one gains anything and in the end her and C.C. look no better than the "gamers" crying over a "joke."

Also, if anyone thinks that "gamers" can't laugh at themselves, I suggest you do some google searches about wow jokes. Or check out the cracked.com article which jokingly explains the typical WoW gamer. It is nothing but insults but it was written by a gamer for gamers.

Every group has "fanboys" that will drink the kool aid and defend what they love no matter what. Though in this case I suspect a lot of the "gamers" posting are really just trolls trying to get under C.C. and mcr's skin and they did it efficiently. CC and mcr took the bait and got in an internet "fight" with trolls who have nothing better to do.

As I said from the beginning, you are getting trolled by 12 year olds with nothing better to do than make fun of you. Quit taking the bait and then throw insults at everyone else that simply responds on here that appears to side against you. We aren't all trolls but now you are the ones that look foolish by taking the troll bait.

hey hey hey, i agree boondocksaints, gamers really arent a violent bunch, i mean online they might act it but i doubt they would ever go as far as this idiot did, and yes it wow is evil, mostly because its crack for any type of gamer. blizzard should open up clinics for addicts, its very hard letting go of your virtual life, believe me i went through all of this and it was hard letting go, i still want to return and lose all human contact

wow. what a great read. i couldnt help but think whilst reading the comments on this that arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. even if you win you are still a retard.

South Park episode about WoW was one of the great shows.

"In all seriousness, though, the only video game console I currently own in a Super Nintendo. I had a PS2 at one point, but I let my ex take it in exchange for the Super Nintendo. I still have a bunch of PS2 games lying around, though."

AHHH that explains so much now.

You're a hipster douchebag.

GTFO my internet please.

still here refreshing the page every 2 mins ready to reply

nice life

@mcr's latest comment

lol at getting a life when you've been refreshing the page for far too long. :P

This is actually a quite serious story and it's sad that some people seem to have hijacked the discussion for the sake of their own pejudices and vanity. Mcr, you have a right to say whatever you want, but I'd ask you to employ some taste.

If I hadn't moved out of my parents' house by that age I probably would have somehow snapped too. I'm really thankful for finding a decent job, and that my efforts have earned it. People keep talking about "mental illness" or "violent influences" to blame things on, but the truth is normal people can crack under sucky circumstances when they feel no way out. Haven't you ever wondered where "bad people" come from?

Don't worry MCR,

Those of us who are semi-intelligent can tell immediately when someone has posted in your name.

I think MCR is going to go off like this fool in the article here shortly and beat up his mother and grandfather if you guys keep it up. Best fit of nerd rage i've seen in days.

I still think its funny how media outlets and even the brainwashed sheeple of the US still think people playing WoW are a bunch of losers sitting at home all day being violent and desensitized. To be honest most of the people I know that play are successful and have families, they just play as a way to relax on the weeknights or weekends. Most of them have gamed for ages and they just prefer playing an MMO. Lots of these people are doctors, lawyers, traveling business people and a whole range of professionals. I mean jesus... 12 million people play, of course you are going to get a few nut jobs.

The person to blame here is the mother herself. Why would you let your kid sit at home and mooch off of you while all they do is sit in their room and try not to do anything with their life. I blame the parenting here.

MCR is what we call a forum troll. Stop feeding him and he might get to go outside for the first time in two days.

They should have went and given out all his stuff on WoW while he was in jail.

Loxuti, I agree, the mother is clearly at fault here. She's raised a 27 year old CHILD! He is supposed to be a grown man by now, holding down a job, being the best he can be at a career, living on his own, or married with kids by now! Instead, he's a basement dweller in his mother's house and doesn't have the decency to keep down the noise in his rent free home so the working people can get up and go to work the next day.

She is about a decade behind in kicking his lazy ass to the curb.

Sorry, can't agree that CC or mcr are trolls, they are frequently at this site adding interesting and well thought out comments to stories here. It's the gamer-name-callers clearly at fault on this thread. The problem is, someone cracks a joke about the momma's-little-basement-dwellers and the trolls don't understand the humor in it...they take it as an assault. Hey, if the friggin shoe fits...

"The person to blame here is the mother herself. Why would you let your kid sit at home and mooch off of you while all they do is sit in their room and try not to do anything with their life. I blame the parenting here."

...It's a 27-year-old man. He is responsible for his own actions.
You gamers are so delusional and eager to defend each other it's sad.

MCR will you marry me?

No seriously, you're awesome.

1. People should just ignore mcr. The person seems to have more free time than the so called "Gamer" that tried to strangle his mom. We should beware of them.
2. Games have no actual proven link towards violence, but instead violence has a link to games. Gamers at an early age who are exposed to violence (being beaten, noticing a parent being beaten, or something similar) are likely to play video games that are violent. A psychologists will tell, a child kills animals because they have been previously violent and not the other way around. Actions don't cause impressions upon the mind; memories do.
3. James Swan seems to be a very troubled man and deserves a jail sentence and a lot of mental help. Attacking his mother and a young child that way, he should get the full extent of his sentence.

The man was just an angry drunk that happened to play some WoW. I wouldn't drop all the blame on parenting, but I wouldn't say it wasn't one of the factors.

I'm curious as to who paid his game bill each month, if this guy had a job, was going to school, or was even looking for a job.

mcr, the fact that you keep coming back to check if people shit talk you and trying to find a clever way to respond back just shows how little you value your time. you could of ended it like after the 20th comment knowing that the more you talk about stupid shit like that the more people will treat you like a stupid kid and respond to your comments with stupid shit. they enjoy rattling you because that IS the internet. so be the smart person and close this link forever, and do something useful with your time. i can also expect trolls after this comment but i wont even bother to check. :)

I think it's hilarious that mcr's supporters assume that each person to oppose her is a gamer.

"You disagree with me!? You're obviously a gamer! BOO!"

That pretty much sums it up right there.

You guys are all just butthurt gamers reeling at the pain inflicted by the light shed on your feeble little existence

Wow...I'm kind of shocked. I go to sleep, wake up, shower, get to school, set up in the library before it's class time and decide to see what stories Pete's got for us today. Yet, all I see are 50+ comments telling me to go away. I was away, morons.

Boondocksaint, that was some IDIOT who stole my name. How fucking stupid are you?

Dang. Anybody else get a mental image of three ladies in circled wagons surrounded by wow-elf-eared natives coming for scalps? Seriously. This is creepy. MCR, you are awesome, I don't even agree with you and I think you are great!

Wow, lots of hostility here. The guy is an obsessed idiot, but is an outlier. With however many thousand of people playing World of Warcraft we're not seeing mass episodes of this sort of conduct.

McR's first response was obviously an attempt at humor. However continuing to try to rationalize and then insult people is what pissed people off. I'm not going to get involved in the name calling or anything like that. Just get off the high horse and realize there are people who play video games that aren't like this guy and aren't like the people who just sit inside all day on their computers or consoles.

Trying to be rational,
-N

I don't believe the game is entirely to blame, the man is clearly unstable either way, but this man's strong attachment to it was clearly involved in the incident. 27 is far too old to be playing World of Warcraft.

The only exception to being too old is if you're approx >50..60 and retired. Then it's fine to be playing WoW all day.

There's no age at which one must "stop playing games". Specific games however do have an age range. You probably wont catch a 30 year old playing snakes and ladders, unless it's strip snakes and ladders, or playing it with a child.

I used to play MMORPGS from the age of 15. I'm 25 now. I still play games, even some online, however I refrain completely from playing MMORPGS and have done since just before I was 20. The reason why is very simple, unlike chess you can't have an isolated random game here or there. It is not a measure of skill either. These games measure one thing greatly over everything else, commitment. Specifically, commitment of your time. There's a small element of team work and skill, which is a secondary or tertiary element of success at most. What it all boils down to in the end is how long you put into training, harvesting and generally accumulating. While you mine for ore for your new sword, the game mines you for your time.

My recommendation, if you're 20+ and still playing WoW, then stop now. Try RTS or FPS instead. At least then you can have one game of skill for a few hours, and know that after a few hours that is it, it's all over, there's no land to guard, no character to keep developing, only your own skill to be honed. These games can still be addictive but easier to quit than MMORPGs where the attachment to the character you've developed is intense and where there is a demand to constantly play to keep up with your peers. MMORPGs are literally temporal/man-hour vampires.

Sorry to be slightly repetitive; it takes many blows to penetrate some thick skulls.

In all seriousness, though, the only video game console I currently own in a Super Nintendo. I had a PS2 at one point, but I let my ex take it in exchange for the Super Nintendo. I still have a bunch of PS2 games lying around, though.

You people need to learn how to take a joke. I don't care if people play video games. However, I do think it's pretty lame when someone is a total loser and still does nothing but play video games, but that goes for all losers who do nothing productive and is not specific to gamers. Everyone simmer down.

I posted that and it still pissed people off. There's no pleasing you. Oh well, can't please everybody. I'm done with this thread. And posts after this with my name on it are a fraud.

And Pete -- you should think about turning this into a site where you have to pick one screen name and stick with it and you can't steal other people's.

If you were away why didn't you just stay away? This news isn't new. Go look at some other story on this site.

On another note, I know a lot of gamers that end up becoming all sorts of engineers and scientists. Hell, even my friends from the army, navy, and marines play video games. I know teachers and professors play video games. My fire fighter friends also play video games.

All of these people are crucial in our society, and they are most defiantly not any type of loser. They're just people that want to occasionally want to just take some time in their life to kick back back and have some time to themselves.

I don't think people are getting "butthurt", rather than getting annoyed of being lumped into one category as someone else.

One or a few bad seeds doesn't mean the rest are bad.

Mcr, you are priceless baby... I'm laughing my ass off at your comments. You pissing them off, and I love it.

It's pretty cute how people who spend a lot of time posting on internet message boards are getting off on feeling superior to gamers. Sort of like when folks that watch 5 hours a day of TV in a row feel superior to you message board posters. It's all a waste of time in the long run. And don't insult my penis in retaliation. I don't have one.

Hehe, this has been an awesome read.
I'm a gamer (on WoW) and i work five days a week, i also have a bf (who i met thru WoW). mcr, loved the joke at the beginning, it made me lol. "gamers" who were arguing with her, omg, get a life. mcr, u shudda ignored them from the beginning, arguing was dumb, but i understand its hard not to sometimes :)
the real issue here, is the guy from the article, is a loser, there is no other way around it. his mother shudda kicked his ass to the curb years ago. definitely the fault of bad parenting with that one!

I really have nothing against mcr, except that she seems to think that she will get some type of literary accolade from having her nose stuck so far up Pete's ass she can't leave her computer, or is it that she can't fit out the front door? Seriously, all that's going to give you is a nice dark tan...but summer's coming.

@mcr !

Lol ! i love you mcr

@MCR: You rule. I love you. I LMFAO at every... let's just say, you have the midas touch.

Sounds like an internal gang fight. Grandpa living at home waiting for the first person to get out of line and bang I'll show you you little bastard. The whole thing sounds like a video game. If they where bong hitting instead of jug swigging maybe someone would've thought of the word chill. But noooo, we get to judge another dysfuntional family with good ole american values.

Poor 27 year old dude, he does not have a life. All internet adicts don't have a life. Purchase P90X loose your fat or gaing muscle and go outside and live life.

Maaan, he didn't even manage to kill her? What a pussy.

@washedout: thats a bad thing? lol (i am lol-ing assuming ur joking)

Good Morning Everyone,
Hi MCR, Marie,
Just a small note to you gamers. You want MCR to stay off this site because she keeps coming back to see what you intelligent gamers are saying about her? Why don't you do everyone a favor and you all stay off this topic and move on. That should settle everything. You people have made your comments about the stor. All your doing now is making this topic about MCR.Sad, Very Sad. It pretty much looks like you people have the problem, not us.

This is like the first time I've ever posted a comment to a blog.

I just have to say it's hilarious that MCR is sitting around calling people losers and being so judgmental when they've been sitting here responding to some random news story on this site for over 24 hours.

MCR probably justifies it to themselves by claiming they're trolling or whatever. We all know you're a pathetic loser though regardless of how you try to justify your loser existence to yourself.

If you really are female then I have a pretty good idea of who you are. You boost your ego with attention from the pathetic bottom of the barrel males who can't get anyone else to speak to them. This has convinced you that you're some ultra desirable woman who has no faults, blah, blah, blah.

Well, you're fucking lame.. you probably spend 90% of your waking life at a computer telling people how lame they are.

Just curious how spot on I am, let me know.. although I probably will never read this again.

IF MCR is a troll then they are the first one to entertain me (nearly every instance of trolls generally annoys me). Good show MCR. I'm a gamer myself, probably shouldn't be, but I am and even I was cracking up laughing at the jokes. I want to be like MCR when I grow up (forget toys-r-us). Keep up the good work! Cheers!

This guy simply has an addictive personality and someone tried to step between him and his addiction at the height of it. If someone was addicted to heroin and you told them "that's all, go to bed" and tried to grab their drugs from them you'd get a very similar reaction.

I've come to realize that most people who are addicted to anything just want to escape from their life. They would rather be dead than have to face life. So, they do drugs or they play games all day or they gamble or have sex or whatever. Anything to keep their minds off the fact that they hate themselves and their existence.

Until these people find a reason to want to live they'll always have problems with addiction. Take away a child's WoW subscription and they'll start smoking weed, take away weed and they watch TV all day, etc, etc.

Our society has a problem with focusing on the addiction as the problem and not the reason for the addiction in the first place.

mhmm, not sure who let this dumbass whore talk, but mcr get your dumb ass in the kitchen and make me a sandwich

Maybe he wouldn't have strangled the bitch if she was in the kitchen making him a sandwich like she was supposed to be. Also, why the fuck was grandpa living there? They didn't appear to be Mexicans, so what's with the whole nuclear family living together??? And the kid obviously didn't have a dad, because my dad would have beaten the ever living shit out of me if I was twenty-seven, living at home, drunk, yelling at my mother while playing World of Warcraft.

~If your over 23 playing games like this then you must not live life. I'm too busy partying and having a busy school agenda do have time to play a game like WoW. Soo many crazy people from this game it's ridiculous...time to walk outside and smell the fresh air guys. Grow up :)

Hey All!! Im a young gamer looking for conversation. Lol!! I saw this story and thought it wass funny! To bad he hert his mom though! I cant believe his grampa shot him! I guess hes the one who ends up pwned!!! Lol. Let me know what you think!

mcr,
I'm just curious about this comment: "No one knows the regrets of a 14-year-old girl like myself. Been there, done that...except I didn't fuck gamers or fatties. I just lied about my age to stupid 20-year-old boys." Are you trying to say that you normally had sex with 20 year olds when you were 14 (as long as they weren't fat), WOW. And now you spend a lot of time correcting others' grammar and spelling on internet blogs? Maybe a hard serious look at your mental health is in order.

This has absolutely nothing to do with WoW, they just throw it in there to spice the story and rile up opponents. They clearly say that he was intoxicated at the beginning of the report, but somehow put more emphasis on WoW being the culprit.

Alcohol made him act the way he did, not WoW. I am losing more and more respect for journalists every fucking day.

Successful troll is successful, for sure.

Forrest,

First of all, I didn't make that last comment about mcr. I won't address her again, she seems quite disturbed.

But obviously being interrupted from a video game doesn't cause someone to attack their entire family. Anyone who is focusing on the game is totally silly. They probably have acted like this in the past, just didn't get to this point.

Thanks for the entertainment! I'm bored in class and you're all crazy intense about this, but it gave me a solid hour of drowning my teacher out!

lol @ mcr.
aww the world doesn't hate you, its just the lame as gamers who spend their lives gaming but dont wanna admit it. lol. u see they are all so stressed about gettin to the next lvl that they cannot take jokes made at their expense lol.

Mom coulda dropped some nice epics... Doncha hate it when you get the boss down to like 5% of her life, and you wipe? :-/

Haha, smurf smurf!

Not sure how this conversation lead to some random guy having an "inverted" penis. What are you 12?

"This guy is mean to me, I'm going to immediately say something about his penis, waaaah waaah!"

Grow up.

Addict! Loser! Grandpa should have shot him!

So, one day I decided to read about a fucked up situation. It involved an addicted gamer, his inability to feel accomplished in anything in life but WOW, and his desperate calls for intervention. I like to make sure that I don't have a one sided view of things, so I always check comments on articles. Let me just say that that I was in complete shock to find that most of these comments had nothing to do with the article. Instead of adding some intellectual stimulus to the conversation, most of you have devoted your time to bashing MCR. Who is MCR? How can we get back at MCR? Who cares? She is opinionated. If you aren't pissing people off with your views, you're doing something wrong. Challenge her views, not her. Most of you clearly don't understand the fundamentals of an argument. Please quit wasting everyone's time.

Thanks.

@Nyd: Yea no kidding, is the biggest pain in the neck!!

Well, seeing how emotional people are getting towards this topic, I'll probably get bashed. :D

I didn't think what MCR said was really that out of line though admittedly, I didn't scroll down to read the entire thing. I think it was just for the LOLs. :) Even if she was offensive to some, it doesn't call for such negative criticism and especially not cursing. I don't think people should forget manners just because it's over the internet and there aren't many repercussions for being unnecessarily rude.

On a lighter note, according to text books, correlation isn't causation but there is a correlation between young children's preference in violent video games and their tendency for violent behaviors. It does NOT mean that playing violent video games makes you a desensitized person who is violent but it's a possibility. Another possibility is that perhaps being that since you have violent tendencies, you prefer violent video games because they catch your interest better. Either way, this is something difficult to study so until they create a better way to experiment this, we won't ever really know.

So! My breakdown of this conversation so far.

"GAMERS R DUmB"
"No, actually gaming and violence have literally no correlation, and the assumption that it does, is simply wrong"
"NU UH! SHUT UP G4MER YOUR A LOSER"
(It's You're by the way, C.C. MCR, etc.)
"Mcr, you're being a tad over the top, try and walk away with your dignity, sarcasm is lost over the internet, of course people won't get it's a joke, don't expect your words to transfer inflection."
"GOD YUR SO STUPID! YOU WASTE YOUR LIFE AN PUT OTHERS DOWN LALALALAL"

(Ensue large orgy of failure.)

Let me reiterate for everyone. Gaming has no correlation with violence, the average gamer is just that. Average, they don't stay on games for hours on end, and they don't neglect basic social needs in order to satisfy their need to game. That's what you call a hardcore gamer. I know that is arguing semantics, but I thought it was necessary.

"Who-who we fightin? Da, DA Gramma police?" -My brother.

While I feel a little silly to be correcting grammar, there is a very large amount of it to be corrected. IT just gets to me, if you expect to be taken seriously or gain any leeway with people, then at least try to formulate your arguments, and take the extra ten seconds to type out exactly what you want to say, and say it correctly.

Sure people can develop an addiction to games, it is entirely possible. Ask yourself this though, what would these peoples addictions be on otherwise? Someone with an addictive behavior will always have that, I think we're lucky that at least it is being put somewhere that stimulates jobs, and provides income for thousands of workers. Blizzard is no doubt, very rich at this point, with a large amount of employees.

Almost done here, I'm just hoping to put this all to rest with this post.

The very argument that games desensitize teens and children to violence, is flat out. Absurd.

The world is violent, our lives are violent, each and every day something hurts or helps us. Do you suggest we censor the gaming industry like commercial media is censored? Bias is a big issue in the media, no doubt. It is also present in games.

I find, (As well as many others) That a great game, with a compelling story, and an inventive mechanic, is as or more edifying than a work f great literature. From my own experience, gamers are more sensitive, and intelligent people. I cannot however say that, since each and every stereotype or grouping has it's exceptions. There are violent gamers, there are "loser" gamers, there are stupid gamers. Don't get me wrong, I'll admit these things exist, but not because of games, rather, independent of games. Can you not also admit that there is the stupid dancer? Or the violent rock collector? OR the "loser" artist? Yeah, these things exist within, and without any specific hobby. Because that is what gaming is, a hobby. Sometimes one that gets out of control, sure, a hobby nonetheless.

What else have ya got for me? Ask an avid gamer anything about the industry, my aspirations, my past. You name it, I can give you some interesting perspective on this subject, let me know if you'll open your eyes with me, and see things as they are, not as you've been told they are.

@so and so: no most of the comments aren't about the article but thats because this ridiculus arguement going on between mcr and the rest of these people is really quite funny :)

Reading what this mcr chick is writing, she seems like a total bitch. I'm sure there are more people other than this 6Figs guy smurfing under your name, lol.

Also, mcr, cc, marie, or whatever, do you not have anything else to do than type about inverted dicks?

This shit is funny as hell!

All you guys wasting your time arguing about pointless details need to just stop and realize the fact that this is in fact a sad fucking story. I'm not going to sit here and make up some dumb excuses as to why he did this or debate about the fact that he's been laid or not. Fact of the matter is, He's a 27 year old MAN, playing WORLD OF WARCRAFT in his mothers house. Most likely jobless, and mooching off his mother. "Wrath of the Leech king" is more like it.

I used to be a die-hard WoW player, and story's like this make me glad I quit when I did; before it took over my life. I'm as much as a gamer as anyone else don't get me wrong. But I know where to draw the line as to realize that beating the SHIT out of my family, over a GAME; is going a little too far.

Point being, take the story for what it is; and don't have an effing political debate over it.

What Elijah said.

Elijah: apart from the fact that you seem slightly biased at first (when listing the general thread of comments, the gamers were being equally as stupid in their comments) i have to say i agree with the rest of what you said, very insightful. :)

"Sure people can develop an addiction to games, it is entirely possible. Ask yourself this though, what would these peoples addictions be on otherwise? Someone with an addictive behavior will always have that,"

You are absolutely correct. My aunt and cousin are addicted to bingo. Seriously, they go 7 days a week. They gamble at casinos regularly as well. If something happens and they aren't able to go, they are miserable people to be around. They don't resort to violence, but they are nasty. If it wasn't bingo, it could be WOW or soap operas or booze. They have addictive personalities.

Someone upthread, forgive me for forgetting who, made a point about "normal" people sometimes snapping due to circumstances. That point got lost in the pissing match and it's a shame. I think the poster was somewhat correct. I'm not going to say the guy in the article was a normal person because I don't know him. But, I think we've all seen people who appear to have it at least partially together just snap under the weight of huge amounts of stress. Sometimes, the first coping mechanism we reach for is the bottle. I really believe that with things going the way they are right now and otherwise good people feeling that they are being kicked when they are down, we're seeing more violent responses. That's just my opinion and as far as I am aware not backed up by scientific research, so take it for what it is.

Cygnus, you're only adding to the ridiculous argument. You're also ignoring a masive amount of points made here, it wasn't because of the game he flipped, he flipped because he was unstable, asking him to get off his game, (Which he was enjoying, which likely made him more stable) So in forcing him off, he snapped. The game was just the catalyst. A drug could have been the catalyst, it could have been dinner, a song, one word, essentially anything.

Loz, you're correct, I have am. You're right, there were a lot of stupid comments from gamers, I simply took all the comments, and weeded out the worst of them. Since the gaming side of the debate had two or three very literate and intelligent people, I used those examples. I also used the best examples from the other side. (However I did "Dumb them down" A bit XD)

Excuse me, Elijah, but it's "massive," not "masive." If you're gonna call people out, expect it back.

6figs, (NOt sure if you're legit or serious) If you are serious though, All I can say is laugh, as you've clearly missed the point of my argument. A typo is vastly different from a grammatical error. Just sayin.

6Figs: thats spelling not grammar :P

Elijah, thank you for clearly depicting your views. I can't say I agree with you on all fronts, but now I can form a less biased opinion.

-May Darwin be with you.

I was reading Digg again, and I found this place again, just to see how things were going.

Someone has been having fun posting about having an inverted penis again! No doubt it's mcr or one of her other multiple identities. Apparently they have some sort of fascination with having an inverted penis, and they try to do it vicariously using a fake handle!

This whole article gives me a good laugh!

Oh, and Elijah makes a good point. +1

Next time he'll remember to take care of the adds before he takes on the boss....

LOL! I think mcr is smurfing under my name and now arguing with other people about it.

If it isn't opposing mcr, it's probably mcr using my handle.

This girl needs a life.

So and So.I accept that, it is after all, the nature of argument. I don't expect you to agree with me, and I'm glad that you recognize and accept my views, and honestly disagree without questioning my character or being.

i guess i proved someones point wrong considering im a massive gamer and have been laid many times. some gamers just need to learn to get out for even 1 hour lol. been with my gal now for 8 months.

Elijah:

Just out of curiosity, is there any backing to the assertion that people addicted to one thing are just people susceptible to addictions in general? Correct me if I'm wrong but that was part of what I gleaned from your post.

I agree that gaming doesn't make people violent because I have quite a few very nice gamer friends. I'm sure a kid seeing violence in real life creates a much more serious effect than gaming could. For example: bobo doll experiment :)

Wow, its good to see people can still disagree on the internet yet stay civilised and refrain from name calling and other childish behaviours.
i'll admit tho, i do get some enjoyment outta a good name calling match heh, its good for the soul to act a bit childish every now and then lol.

Pete Kotz said:

I have to agree with the gamers on this one. Anybody who chokes their mother is a jerk-off, and regular readers know that jerk-offs come in all stripes, regardless of their hobbies. Besides, video games are probably more intellectually stimulating than, say, television, and since half the U.S. male population under age 35 plays them, it's pretty normal behavior.

I also think they're pretty educational. I buy my son the Madden and baseball games. Try explaining the nuances of things like the cover 2 defense or the infield fly rule to a little kid. But he learns them by playing video games.

This is fucking retarded. I've been in class for the last two hours, idiots. I wasn't "smurfing" or "trolling" anyone. And while I do like My Chemical Romance, mcr are my initials, douchenuts. What the hell is the matter with you people??

Mcr, I think we, as the internet, has moved on past you. Thank you very much.

Tenshi, to be honest, I don't have evidence to backup that claim, I say that from personal experience. Addictive behaviors attack to something, and I may be wrong to say that all people addicted to games, would be addicted to something else, but there is a number of people who hold that to truth.

The real beauty of a game is in it's interactive storytelling. Being able to control and influence the outcome of the game, and the fate of the fanciful universe is a powerful storytelling tool.

Thanks for that magnificent contribution MCR.

In terms of behavior, attention seeking, literacy, and priorities, I fail to see any qualitative difference between so-called "gamers" and forum trolls.

P.S. Somehow in the last 13 years I spent 6 years in the Navy, got a BS in computer science, inseminated entire villages of hot chicks, won praise and accolades from the most popular people in every town I've lived in, got married, and managed to play several telnet games, Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of Warcraft ;)

Its been a good laugh reading through all the comments.. And I must agree that games don't alter your mental thinking in any way. I've been gaming for about 16 years now and there is nothing wrong with me.. (at least I don't think so :)lol ) anyway as for the article it is pretty funny.. The kinda stuff you laugh about and forget about.. Still the guy is a nutbag

And then there was none.

Elijah -- if they've moved past me, why is my name being brought up in almost every comment? I WANT you guys to move past me. For the love of God...you people are all morons.

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

if you want the people to move past you, then stop posting.

Hillarious! I've had the worst couple of days ever and have been totally cheered up by this.The story started me off with a chuckle and by the time i was halfway through the comments well...quality!STANDING OVATION MCR.I'm female but i also would like to marry you.

lol, what JoAnne said

I appreciate all the marriage proposals, but I didn't post anything for 11 hours and STILL everyone is making comment about/towards me.

I'm torn, do I call mcr out? Let her know that until she said something, we weren't talking about her, or should I ignore her and hope she goes away?

Addressing someone and commenting on things they've said are different Mcr, you really don't have to reply you know.

When you're attacking my character based on a silly thread of comments, I believe I do.

Elijah: somehow i dont think she actually read the first couple sentences of your last post lol

I read it, but anyone who scrolls up can see he's full of shit.

From comments to flame wars, it's the way of the internet

i'm not gonna get into an arguement with you, you're entitled to your opinion, as is he, i happen to think he's right, and thats my opinion, theres no need for bad language or such strong reactions.

You should tell that to every single person who jumped up my ass for making a JOKE.

have u read all my comments?

You win some, and you lose some. I'd suggest not responding to MCR anymore, the ends don't justify the means.

Elijah Loz JoAnne, if you don't like what MCR is posting go somewhere else. This is public site. MCR has the right to her opinion. That's to bad you don't like what she has to say. Read below this maybe your problem?

The culprit isn’t alcohol or drugs. It’s video games, which for certain people can be as powerfully addictive as heroin, some doctors contend.

A leading council of the nation’s largest doctors’ group wants to have this behavior officially classified as a psychiatric disorder, to raise awareness and enable sufferers to get insurance coverage for treatment

Again, try and read my first comment please, i wasn't (as she so eloquently put it) "jumping up her ass"

Mcr, I understand your frustration at the sheer amount of bullshit coming your way, but you are bringing it on yourself.

C.C. YOu have very apparently not read 90% of the posts in this thread, however, if you are still subject to the opinion that it was the gaming that did it to him, I suppose I can't sway you.

Also, "A leading council of the nation’s largest doctors’ group wants to have this behavior officially classified as a psychiatric disorder, to raise awareness and enable sufferers to get insurance coverage for treatment"

Source please, because I don't believe this somehow.

If I included you and should not have sorry. To many people are accussing her of what they are doing. It's stupid. These people are making themselves look stupid

If you read mine and Elijah's comments (cant remember what JoAnne actually said, sorry) it had nothing to do with mcr, just to let you know :)

Well, my first did a bit, but i wasn't having a go :)

WOW mcr...one to talk about gamers not having lives and such and their inability to get laid when you are posting arguments on a website for....well i stopped reading after about 10 of your comments and failed attempts at wit. kudos. Hopefully you haven't gotten too pissed to the point of storming out of your computer room to beat ya mum once you've been bested in the game of linguistics.

ps I'm 20 if you wanna lie about your age a little =)

Well I didn't make it up. As to the topic. This asshole was drunk and beat up his family. So I would say it was Him first of all and the Alcohol together.

heh, thats what we've been trying to say, that it had nothing to do with WoW, which i play btw and work five days a week, and make time for my bf and friends, and was all to do with him and the drink :D

[quote] [b] mcr said:

I just lied about my age to stupid 20-year-old boys. [/b][/quote]

L-O-F'n-L!!! Are you really that stupid? I know you were only 14, but believe me... you were the naive one! Those guys knew exactly what they were doing!

Yes, I believe I did. And I see that you're not one of the jerk-offs who were saying mean things, and I assume you aren't one of the people to "smurf" my name, but still. I'm over it. Wish everyone else would be, too. It's so unimportant.

MCR, i herd u liek mudkips? confirm or deny

/b/ reporting in, should we start it up?

err, mcr, who was that last comment to?

Sorry, amazed...I don't associate myself with little boys.

HI I'M MCR AND I LIKE TO SMURF OTHER PEEPLES NAMES AND TALK ABOUT INVERTED PENISES BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL SMAERT WHILE ALL OF MY STUPID LITTLE INTERNET FRIENDS STICK UP FOR ME BECAUSE I AM SO TUFF AND AWESOME. I ALSO LIKE TO BRAG ABOUT TRICKING 20 YEARS OLDS INTO HAVING SEX WITH MY SKANKY ASS WHEN I WAS 14. I AM SO COOOOOL! LOLOLOLOLOL ARENT I CLEVER? WOW AM I AWESOME. I ALSO MAKE SURE THAT I AM THE CENTER OF ATTENTION BY SAYING THAT I DONT WANT TO BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION AND THEN YELL AT EVERYONE TO STOP TALKING ABOUT ME EVEN WHEN THEY WERENT TALKING ABOUT ME IN THE FIRST PLACE. I AM AMAZINGLY SMAERT LIKE THAT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHA I RULE!

PLEASE, EVERYONE LOVE ME SO I FEEL A SENSE OF SELF IMPORTANCE WITH MY GO-NO-WHERE LIFE. I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN SIT HERE AND READ A THREAD ABOUT GAMERS. I WISH I HAD A LIFE..... SOMEONE PLEASE TALK ABOUT ME AGAIN.. PLEASE?

omg, whoever just smurfed mcr, give it a rest, we're well past it by now, seriously! i cant say i agree with everything shes said but i mean cmon, enough is enough, grow up.

Loz -- "Yes, I believe I did. And I see that you're not one of the jerk-offs who were saying mean things, and I assume you aren't one of the people to "smurf" my name, but still. I'm over it. Wish everyone else would be, too. It's so unimportant."

That was to you, sorry...I started to write it and then had to do something and just picked up where I left off. I thought all this shit was done, but I guess not. If I could go back and delete all my comments, trust me, I would. I'll never make a joke again.

Hehe, yes it would seem that making jokes about gamers is an extremely risky business lol. so many of them, i would say us but i can take it, can't take a good joke. especially when its stereotyping lol. if i'd seen this article straight away and been one of the first to comment, i honestly probably would have made a similar joke and it would be me not you who was getting all this shit flung at them lol. ah well, brush it off, these people dont matter, in fact i dont matter to you either, we're just random strangers lol.

I know, but this is where I come to escape (as crazy as that sounds). Despite what anyone here has assumed, I work my ass off on nearly a daily basis. None of this matters, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't put a damper on my day. Oh well, tomorrow's another day. Hopefully by then, everyone will have moved on.

I apologize to anyone who took me seriously. And about half of the comments made under my name weren't me...so sorry if anyone took offense to those, as well.

Ah, theres no harm in using the internet to escape, i do with WoW, although actually most of my evening has been spent on this today, i work bloody hard too so i know how you feel.
And you shouldn't be apologising for making a joke, anyone who couldn't see it was a joke (e.g the idiot who made the first reply) must have a severly low IQ. its not ur fault the layabout gamers cant help hearing the truth about themselves, lol. (in case anyone cant tell, that was a joke....partly) hehe.
have a god evening anyway and try to shake it off :D

have a good* evening

He may be addicted to video games but that is already classified as a disorder, just like gambling addiction. Just b/c someone's an addict doesn't mean it makes them violent or is a reason behind violent behavior. There are a billion alcoholics in the world and they don't beat the hell out of their mothers if someone won't drive them to the liquor store. That's a whole different issue called dysfunctional trash redneck family. Why would we want to pay for insurance for this guy? I'm sure at least one member of that household, if not all are raking in a disability check. Therapy will never help this guy, try a GED and a job.

""People with poor social skills and mental disorders (depression, anxiety, adhd, etc...) are more prone to addictions. Some use video games to mask their problems while others may use porn, television, shopping, alcohol, prescription drugs, illicit drugs, gambling, etc...""

Oh damn! What if you do ALL of these things? I mean, I don't have a problem or anything, right? Right.....? Guys?

I'm a huge douche.
Goodnight Ladies and Gentlemen.

I couldn't agree more.

Wow...even after I apologize, you guys just keep it going. Yep...and I'm the douche. Right, ok. Losers. Especially you, anastasia. Shut your cunt mouth and go somewhere else. This is my domain.

you guys are so cool!

Cmon, whoever did it, you might think ur cool or something but guess what, ur not, get over urself, leave her alone, give it a rest and go climb back into the hole you crawled out of to begin with!
Whoever you are, yes you are a douche, at least the real mcr was mature enough to try and apologise for something she shouldn't have been apologising for in the first place. you may not know this, seeing as i expect you have been living under a rock ur entire life but it is not a crime to make a joke!

I like peanut butter and raisins. Milk makes me happy. I once skied down a mountain while balancing a jar full of tadpoles on my head.

OH SO COOL [= Lemme keep going on this website and take time into posting cool stuff to people who I don't know and shouldn't give a fuck about! oh yippie! cool! bye bye!

Well, matthew...who's lamer? The person defending herself and making a comment here and there, or the person who has been on here since 9am making about 100 posts in my name? hmmmmmm...that must be a tough one. Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard.

Lol at mcr. you tell him!

Listen, morons. I can solve this for ALL of you with one mighty swipe of my magical knowledge wand.
You people are NOT gamers. You think touching a ps3 and using the word 'pwned' makes you a hardcore gamer? You aren't. You, like myself, are normal people who just happen to play occasionally. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT GAMER MEANS.

mcr's hilarious comments are directed at the following:
Gamers are the people that work/school, and after getting home, they don't leave the Xbox until 'bedtime' besides eating and crapping. Don't be offended. The only people who should be offended are the ones that will never hear the joke.

You are not gamers. If you continue to refer to yourselves as such, you are posers. And yes, I just said 'posers'. And what, bitches?

hehe, i only recently started playing WoW so forgive me for not knowing all the super-important lingo lol. (i referenced myself as a "gamer" earlier) however i do usually spend alot of time on it after work and on my days off (excepting today, was feeling realy bored with it) heh, tho i will say i never called myself a "hardcore" gamer.

So it's admitted that he was drinking, and the fact that he was being loud seems to say that he was drunk, but because he was playing video games it's automatically played off as being a video game related attack?

Yes, thats how the media has tried to make it sound, but if you read thru the comments, u'll find most of us agree that it had nothing to do with the game, and everything to do with him as a person and the fact that he was obviously drunk. :)

Yeah...I played a lot of GTA in high school and I can honestly say I've never taken a bat to a car or a pedestrian. People always want to place the blame on something or someone other than the person responsible. There is no way my mom would allow me to live in her house at 27 unless I really needed to, in which case she would definitely not tolerate me playing video games into the night.

And how weird must it be for the siblings to have to share a room with their 27-year-old brother?

OK.. MCR... you need to know that people who get their games at Gamestop... or play Console games...are not Gamers...
Those are the people like this guy the story is about.... little fukin losers that live with their parents and are a waste of flesh.
If your over 21 and living with your parents...well.... i will give you a gun with one bullet, please put it to good use.

Also... MCR.... Get a fukin life...jebus the comment "this is my domain" tells me you have no other place to go where people will listen to you....poor girl.

Oh and please don't respond to me as I will not be coming back to check... I found this story while checking the news on jimmyr.... In conclusion, YOUR A FORKING LOSER !!
GET A LIFE !!

yea, no way my mum would have allowed that either, again unless it was neccessary, but i'd still be paying rent heh.
i always feel quite chilled after playing WoW, its relaxing taking out ur frustrations on monsters and losing urself in the game for a few hours.
and yea, that would be so odd and so many kids in one room too.

I agree with everything mcr has said.
That is all.

Okay, the Leeeeeeroy Jenkins comment had me CRACKING up! I wonder if he will smash his head through the cement walls of his jail cell when he misses his daily guild raid? Or even his weekly? What a d-bag. Seriously, if you wanna game whatever. IT'S a game! Nothing to choke anyone over! I wonder if he seen his relatives as horde or alliance?

I disagree with everything mcr has said.
That is all.

mcr: Wild thing, I think I love you. But I wanna know for sure....

omg hah aha hahahahah hahahahaah!

MCR seems like a nasty person in real life. Not because of her joke but based on her replies. I get the feeling that she is a fat angry woman who hates everything that doesn't agree with her. How awful it must be to know you in real life mcr.

I like James Swan. He is a cool guy who plays World of Warcraft and don't afraid of anything.

Hey, I read about half of this thread, just too damn long and its late... but I am 17, Ive had a few girlfriends and Ive gotten laid (jsuk) and I enjoy spending hours and hours playing xbox360, the halo franchise being my favs. and I feel that all of those who support mcr and her tirade, along with mcr should just chill for a minute. I agree that video games can be bad, I myself was addictedd. I was consumed my Runescape, and when my brother destroyed our account and I broke down, I realized what was going on. This was four years ago. I have grown up a lot since then and I now can go weeks with out playing video games. I would also like to point out that a few of you called these gamers "guys/dudes" when in fact I think about 3 people said they were women with kids and jobs. That's stereotyping and that's wrong.

To finish, i just want to say that MODERATION IS KEY.
That is all
Thank you for your time

Darrell, if I didn't just get back from a first date where I was repeatedly told how awesome I am, I might take offense to that. Nothing can bring me down right now. :)

And kinda hard to be fat when you ride a bike everywhere.

AnonymousBlond- Violent people are often violent people. Video games will often have little to do with this. Al Capone didn't grow up playing Grand Theft Auto as a kid, did he?

"Darrell, if I didn't just get back from a first date where I was repeatedly told how awesome I am, I might take offense to that. Nothing can bring me down right now. :)"

He is a guy, he wants in your pants. of course he would tell you how awesome you are. Most guys are so desperate for sex that they would try and sweet talk a rhino just to get some action. In short, don't flatter yourself, he only wants sex. Brb while I go get my groove on with this pillow I have been swooning all night.

what a loser, sucks because it paints a bad image for all the other gamers like me that are just normal people :/

While I'm sure I will get bashed and attacked since I seem to be classified as a mcr "groupie", why don't you people just stop? Its pretty obvious to the regulars when the real mcr makes a comment and when someone who is possing as mcr makes a comment. I mean seriously! How lame are some of you?! So what if she comes on here? Some people play games as a way for release. Some of us come on here as a way of release. What's the difference?

This is not about mcr or anyone elses comments. Its about a douchebag who was drunk, playing a video game, being too loud, and attacked his family. While yes I admit I went along with it at first, but could we please get back to discussing the story? About how horrible this guy is and not mcr? Move on people, seriously! Does this topic really require so many comments about another commenter? Just stick with the flipping story for cryin out loud!

What marie heck said.

We sould be discussing the story if it weren't for mcr's ignorant comments towards other commentors on this site. She called me a cunt b/c she didn't liek the fact that I caught that she admitted having sex with 20 year olds when she was 14. Just because you have been having sex for nine years & you're only 23 doesn't make you an authority on all subjects. Just penises, inverted or otherwise.

And...hahaha..LMFAO...Getting told your are "awesome" by a dude who wants to have sex with you is by no means an extraordinary feat. He doesn't even know or will remember what he is saying. OMG. Use your brain you think you have!

so this thread has been calming down but i think the main problem is that mcr started off overly sarcastic and a little too much on the offensive... basically she was being a little b*tchy, and no one has ever taught her how to have an argument without insulting people. most people dont know how to argue or even have a discussion without demeaning the other party. and a 14 year old having sex is disgusting, i may have done stupid stuff when i was that age but i grew up and im 20 and already realize how messed up that was. if you are going around telling people you were getting laid when you were 14 then please go see a therapist because that is something that is very private and something you should be ashamed of.... you were 14!! im 20 and im a computer science major and i am a GAMER its great! its a great way to relieve stress after a long nights work or a long day at school, i go out on the weekends and hang out with my friends and try and see my girlfriend almost everyday. im a normal person but i am also a hardcore gamer. my girlfiend doesnt play video games, she only uses computers to check her facebook and email, i have a couple friends who occasionally play mw2 but other than that no one else i know plays video games. with this article it makes it out to seem as if WoW caused the guy to lose it (PS i hate WoW more than anything and would love to blame it for everything including global warming, socialism, and death) but the truth is he was just unstable and had the "i want it my way and want it now" childish way of thought, thats it, he was unstable and he snapped because mommy wanted to take his toy away

Anyone who blames the game for this is an idiot. It is a game, a diversion like any other. I used to play and never went batshit crazy on anyone. I stopped when I didn't have time for it anymore and I didn't have withdrawal or psychotic episodes. The simple fact is that some people are unstable and some people have addictive personalities. Just because someone chooses WoW over crack doesn't mean the game itself is evil. I have many friends who still play who are all productive members of society, who have jobs, families, and are sane.

Sounds like a typical drunk guy to me. my brother did the same thing while playing some online pool game although a drunks attention span is limited.. stand in front of the tv with a drunk watching it, this will happen. hang up the phone with a drunk on it, it'll happen.. i could go on and on.

I don't play WoW but i do play games every now and then and the whole "gamers are crazy serial killers" just bothers me a lot. As if those people wouldn't be crazy psychos without games right? Whoever believes that needs to take a peek into human psychology, all it takes is something, anything to trigger them the right way and its obvious that whatever the trigger was isn't to blame, it was inevitable with those types of people its just a matter of when it will happen.

I am a female gamer - and this offends me. (Not these comments, this article.) This guy definitely gives gamers a bad name - and if he did something like this there was obviously something wrong with him *before* he started gaming. Yes, WOW is addictive. I played for a few years but I no longer don't. WOW never made me violent. Games do not make people violent - alcohol does, and I believe some people are forgetting that was a factor in this whole thing.

And for everyone out there who thinks video games desensitize us to violence, or at least lead us to violent acts - please find the episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit! where they discuss the matter. I think you'd find it rather eye opening. (I'm sure you can find it online some where quite easily).

IMHO - The news desensitizes us to violence, movies desensitize us to violence, so sure games probably do help with that matter - but video games are not something we can put the blame on, and neither is the news or movies. We don't know his home life, we don't know how his mother raised him or how he grew up, we don't know his mental condition. So please - before someone starts spouting accusations - find the back story.

PS. I also know all of these comments have probably already been made - however there *is* a lot of them to read and I'm simply posting because it's something I feel strongly about. :)

Observer -- WHO THE FUCK CARES?!?!?!? MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!!

And I was on the debate team in high school AND college and now I'm in law school. I can absolutely have a debate without insulting people. In fact, you'll notice that several of my comments did not contain insults. It's only when the whiney little fucks like you won't let it go that it pisses me off. Please go somewhere else.

Other people have the right to post their opinions here if you do. Oh and the majority of your posts use some immature insult.

Yep, they do. Because all the people attacking me are fucking morons. That includes you, darling.

I have a feeling mcr is about to be Pete's next story line.

"Girl goes crazy over article comments"

It makes me really sad that all of you people are so incredibly lame that you judge someone's entire character based off silly comments on a website. I feel sorry for all of you. Maybe you guys should get a hobby or an education or something. Just don't breed. For the love of god...don't breed.

mcr,
You misspelled "toodles." Therefore, according to your logic, everything you have said before has no significance. Please exit in an orderly fashion.

You don't correct the spelling of a non-existent word, tard.

mcr,
Is that how you intend to conduct yourself when are a big shot lawyer (like you think you are now.) "Get out of my office you tard, you can't pronunciate correctly and I'm better than you because I've been getting poked since I was 14!" You are the most abrasive, confrontational woman I have ever seen. Was your mother one of the original cast of "Survivor?"

Mcr,
I have been on this Website for a while now. I will not go into it much.7 students and I did a social paper for school and we used TCR for one of our topics. Our study involved arguing with other users on this Website and at times it was a mess. Mcr, these people on this TOPIC proves our study to be correct. One person here decided to take control of this group of people; That person consider himself strong, in control if you will. Right away he needed to find someone to pick on, therefore the rest of the group followed his lead. Everything that these nuts are accusing you of, is exactly what their guilty of.
"StonedOdie" got the ball rolling and the rest of the little people followed right off the edge of the cliff. The way the theory played out is that at the beginning of the Topic it was already made clear you were the more intelligent opponent by your first comment. “StonedOdie" was threatened so he/she replied back negatively. Mcr You are way to smart to waste you time on people that play video games all DAY!

Ugh. Will you all stop arguing? You're making yourselves look like idiotic tools. Just let it go.

Arguing with some prick over the internet because they're being a prick is only making you look like a prick.. Viscous circle.

WoW didn't cause his outburst.. But it sure didn't help. Video games like that + drinking = rage. I play an MMO, don't drink, and things piss me off bad enough sometimes.

That guy was completely disrespectful regardless of why he was there. The whole house was asleep, he was asked to be quiet, and then attacked. In my opinion, the guy himself probably had an anger management issue and the drinking as well contributed (being interrupted during an easily frustrating game) probably set him off.

If anything.. I feel bad for the kids. The adults at least had a say in keeping him there or not. :/

Also, just because something isn't proper English does not make it not a word. It's called "slang" and even slang has it's own specific definitions and spellings.. So yes, you can misspell "non-existenting" words.

What I want to know is what the mom plans to do now after all of that episode.

OMG, are you all STILL going at mcr. if you dont like what she says ignore her (this is not digging at you mcr) you dont have to reply to her comments, that just makes you as bad as you 'think' she is.
maybe actually try talking to her as a civilised human being instea of starting out by insulting her, ever thought that thats why you dont get a civil response?

Gentle,
Ha ha, they aren't making themselves look like anything, they ARE idiotic tools. I think the mom is going to get her dick-piercing removed and resume her job as a lubricant tester when she gets out of prison.

CC,
If you think mcr is smart, you need to stay in school 24 hours a day.

Loz, don't be a hypocrite. She's just as guilty.

They need to knock it off and she needs to knock it off. mcr is being just as immature and idiotic and if she's not going to let go, they won't either. :|

before any spelling police start on me, yes i realise i missed the 'd' on instead, sometimes that heppens when i type, get over it!

I'm not saying shes not, but have you noticed how many people are ganging up on her? i'm just saying, lots of people have told her to go elsewhere and stop posting here, have they maybe thought of doing the same? also i had a quick conversation with her last night, look thru it, u'll notice that she didn't insult me once, probably cos i wasn't insulting her.
and if anybody is wondering about how long i have spent on this and other pages on this website, i have been sat on my bum for two days doing sod all cos i work hard and it was my days off, yes i have done other things but have been returning to read the posts :)

She did it to herself. Obviously, she'd had no problems fighting back with them so I see why you are wanting to defend her. Obviously, she's a big girl and you should treat her as such. mcr originated the hostile responses and attacks. Or, the wording she chose did. Reading her comments I felt like she had an arrogant "holier than thou" attitude and it was quite annoying. The people insulting her were mainly insulting because she dislikes gamers. Granted, she's allowed to have any opinion she wants - but expressing a stereotype opinion on a group of people where they're likely to read it, isn't too smart. She should have assumed she'd get responses. Infact, she probably did it for responses. Look up trolling.

She's told others to post elsewhere as well. mcr is not a saint, stop defending her, let her take care of herself. And to you mcr - most of the time, mature people have this ability to "let things go". To overlook PETTY situations such as these and realize it's not a big deal and not worth your time. You come back here every hour or so just to respond to people.. So if it's not a big deal to you, I don't understand why you keep coming to respond. Because it makes you laugh? There's much better things to laugh at.. Like Potter Puppet Pals, or something. Coming back to "keep laughing" is an excuse to hide the fact that you still want to argue and fight.

I don't sympathize for people who bring issues down upon themselves.. Like, the mom for example did not need to allow her son to live there at the time. If he's had a habit of being angry, freeloading, mooching, and drinking.. She should never have put herself or her family's lives in danger.

"Obviously, she'd had no problems fighting back with them so I don't see why you are wanting to defend her" is what I meant to say. Left out the word "don't". Sorry.

First, i would like to say, that at no point did i say or insinuate that mcr is a saint.
the fact is tho, she started off my making a joke, it was quite obviously a joke and a very common one when it comes to the gamer stereotype (which the guy in the article does fit into i'd like to add), for some stupid reason someone decided to be offended by that, and started on her, so she fought back.
Also, not having a go, but if i want to defend her i will. however that wasn't really what i was doing, i simply stating my amazement that these people who are saying these things to mcr are pretty much doing the exact same thing as they accuse her of doing.

by* making a joke. like i said, it happens sometimes when i type hehe, in fact i think i even said 'heppens' as well so...well, hopefully u understand what i mean anyway. :)

Loz,
I am definitely not accusing you of calling mcr a saint. She called me a cunt and I certainly don't think that's a saintly behavior.

i never said you did, that was to gentle :)

I never accused you of calling her a saint. I said she is not one, meaning she is not innocent here. She contributed just as well to the arguement and fights on here. Don't try to read so far in between the lines.

I love how anastasia keeps coming here to prove what an instigator she really is. Keep it going. You're really making yourself look dumber with every word you type. If you think this is anything more than entertaining to me at this point, you're wrong.

And I called you a cunt because every comment you've left on here screams "I'M A GIANT CUNT!!!"

Don't want to be called a cunt? Quit acting like one.

Good night people! Its 2:55am (i'm in the UK) and i need to be up for 7:00am. prob wont carry this on tomoz as the posts will be far beyond this! catch you all some other time maybe.
Night night
:)

And Gentle, if you read the comments, you'd see that I apologized and that I said I have nothing against gamers, because I don't, dipshit.

Maybe read in between the lines a little better, douchenozzle.

Mcr,
I am not coming back to this Website Pete Kotz said “I have a history of arguing with people????” Know on here argues, it's me. I don't see Justin anymore and I'm not talking about Justin Igger!!!!! I new I was right about him, Pete knew to. Anyway MCR, Anastasia A.K.A ...JANE, ROCKY are the same PERSON.
GOOD LUCK!
DON"T FIGHT TO MUCH OR PETE WILL NOT LET YOUR COMMENTS GO

I pretty much figured at least one of these people was Rocki in disguise. I knew it was too good to be true for her to just disappear. Oh well. Sorry to see you go, C.C.

Why does any story relating to World of Warcraft always become so nasty. I play it, my husband plays it, we both have full time jobs and friends in the game and in real life. 3 of our 4 children are gamers, all 4 have finished school and have jobs. No, they are not dead-end jobs, I have sons that work as a forest ranger, and electrician and a combat engineer in the army, a daughter that is an electrical engineer. Playing a game does not make you an idiot. Blaming a game, or movie or anything for not being successful makes you an idiot.

Oh I did read your comments. I find it funny that you have to resort to direct namecalling to try to get your point across.. Which is none. ;) You're just trying to fight people. Tsk, tsk. For someone who claims to be in their twenties, you'd think that they'd have learned to grow up a bit.

Actually, no matter how many hours goes by that I don't get on here, there's always at least one comment on the front page in the recent comments section that I can see.

This is all the pot calling the kettle black. You people are far more immature than I am, especially at this point.

And oh yes, I'm a "big gay fag and i like cock in my ass." Good one!

yeah blaming playing wow is totally missing the point. this dude could have been playing any game.watching a movie, listening too music or any number of things and be told to shut up and go totally postal on his mum.. it just happened to be wow. what a loser.

mcr,
I looked through all my comments and I don't see any typed in "I'M A GIANT CUNT!!!" So yet again, your facts are incorrect. You may want to have those hallucinations checked out by a doctor. I hear they're not normal.

just checking in on my lunch break, can't believe this is still going on! hehe.
everyone is as bad as each other (yes including me) we've all made comments to and about each other, maybe its time to put it aside and either get back to commenting on the article or move on? (yes i know i shud too and i probably will)

There are those with experience and there are those with theories.

People have theories about people who play video games.
People have theories about why some degenerate into fits of violence.

But I'm not seeing a whole lot of experience here.

FOR THE HORDE!

Ok this is stupid. Its not wow that caused him to do this. I
M SICK AND TIRED OF THEM BLAMING COMPUTER GAMES. its goddamn mental problems that causes shit like this. get them to do a full psych assessment on him and it would prove its not the damn game that caused him to be like that. i'm so sick of people blaming games for people lashing out, killing people and the sort when its the person who freak'd out that needs the help not people bashing a goddamn game. I am a college student WITH A DEGREE in widlife and forestry conservation and i play wow for hours a day when i'm not busy. I love the game. and its sad that people resort to blaming it when things happen in a household.

Jeremy said:
Weird. I was 99% positive that anyone that played WoW couldn't beat up anyone.. other than maybe a bigger WoW nerd.

Posted 02/15/2010 at 10:46:09 PM

WOW, (as in the word not the game peoples :P) you must totally not be a gamer. I CUT DOWN TREES FOR A LIVING, i'm not some wimpy ass nerd who sits and plays wow all the time but you know what. i do play wow. everytime i have free time. I could easily beat the crap out of most of the people that i know AND I'M A WOMAN. you need to grow up and realize all n all that not only nerds play the game.. *sighs* people like you are such idoits

uh michelle, i think u'll find that was intended as a joke :)

The arguement that follows the situation is WAY MORE INTENSE than the situation itself. I LOVE the INTERWEB!!!!!

I read through, well most of these comments and had to laugh. I find it interesting that everyone glanced right over the drinking part of the story and went right to bashing video games.

Lets face, alcohol is a poison and a scourge. We accept a complete mind altering and potentially fatal liquid to be so commonplace that people dont even see this as the real issue. Ya, he is a 27 yr old loser living at home with mommy drinking and playing video games. But do you think every night is this way if he is sober? Might be a bit of a dick im sure when sober but alcohol just enhances stupidity and removes inhibitions. I laugh that people critisize pot smoking on this thread but I dont think I have ever heard of anyone getting so high that they strangled their mom.. lol. Maybe get mad at her for not getting the Funyuns but they wouldnt get off the couch to attack her over it.

Cheers...

I am a WoW player myself and sometimes my brother or mother piss me off aswell and i just think about it but i would never ever lay a hand on one of my own flesh and blood over a fucking video game,no matter how wasted/stoned i am.

Jeez,this guy really needs to visit a shrink or actually take another bullet which will just kill him. What a retard.

All of the retards say this is becouse fo WoW just STFU! This is the habit of DRUNK PPL! Not gamer. Idiots... Alcohol, thats all.

I don't like MCR she is so mean. C.C. as well. If this is how the readers of this blog treat newcomers, I won't be coming back. Such hostility to anyone that has a differing opinion. I think you need some counseling MCR. Same goes for you C.C.

Nice to see comments back to the story. Although I don't think Pete was meaning that the idiot playing WoW was the reason he snapped. Anyone with any sense would know that's not why. He snapped because he snapped. Some people don't have to have a reason, they just do it. But, yes I'm sure the alcohol was the majority of the reason why he did. The other part is probably cause he is a douchebag.

Pete,

Maybe I didn't see that part in the story, but did the mom live?

What a damn fucking geek retard!

Pete Kotz said:

Yeah, the mom lived in this case, Marie.

Ok...i have been gaming for abour 18 years...i am 24 so no not that old...and me being a gamer...found all of mcr stuff...offensive...just kidding of course...hate to bring up old news but uhh..yeah that crap was hilarious...why...becuase i live without a controller or keyboard and mouse in my hand and can take a joke.. and just because you all are simple minded and don't posses the mind power to comprehend a joke or sarcasm...doesn't mean you have to go into retard rage and let your fingers go nuts on the keyboard. and just so everyone is tracking since i am pretty sure someone in the worl of the internet is going to find this offensive...and try make cracks at it or say there piece...i don't care about grammar...i don't care about spelling...and i don't care about typos missed puncuation or anything else...its not a resume so i frankly...don't proof read nothing. and also...something someone may want to consider..i do kill people for a living its my job...and i am pretty sure someone...will say something at that as well...so mcr stay strong...and i look forward to hearing your wise cracks some more...they are hilarious...oh and lastly...i am not some fat gamer dude...i am not mcr posting in support of herself if you really must know what i look like to prove it www.myspace.com/dirtypinkflamingo...and to all those saying i grabbed a random myspace to say it was a message send me a message and i will respond with a wise crack or something...so to all you F**ks without a sense of humor ..l.. i give you the digital middle finger *bows* (and yes..i already know...i am imature...i don't need ya telling me thanks for the support and positive critism anyways)

oh i forgot to say...i played WoW for 5 years....just saying so feel free to leave little comments and wise cracks about that too i am allllll ears :D have fun being douche bags

you people get pissed over what someone is saying or joking over a guy getting drunk and playing a game? I thought it was funny that people are posting they are not coming back because other people are saying mean things. Get a life!

@MCR = you are a slut ? had sex at the age of 14. you said that was 10 years ago, so now you are 24?
I bet half my life time that you are barely 10 years old fantasizing about being a slut lol. daMn attention whores.

@people who agree with MCR= you are either MCR or one of the 30+ years old men who think this will give you a chance to get in her pants despite her unknown look. some are sick like that. but most certainly 50% or more are MCR herself

I only read first few comments, you sounds truly stupid. I am sorry to say this.

I also want to mention that unlike all those who disagree with you, i cant check again to see what you typed. cause simply i got better stuff to do lol.

oh and one more thing, so you think gamers are lame, but people who stay on this website refreshing the page 24 times a day to check for responses are cool?
If i come here again to check if there is any reply, then ill consider myself as lame as you.

but seriously, you sound like a kid, and you sound stupid too. do the internet world a favor and go get laid for real, or find a bf.

k back to searching more cool stories. lol

Thanks Pete. I just couldn't tell if she had died or not. Glad she is ok, or well as ok as can be. Any other new updates on this story?

Stories like this always make me laugh. This is not about the games themselves for me. This is about ridiculous people. And this guy was one of them.

now.... I usually like reading through to see how other people reacted. I find interest in both sides' viewpoints.

I was distracted by something during this. What sums it up for me is that instead of this being a place to leave responses about the ACTUAL topic someone went and turned this into a playground. And to top it off they actually said "You people are far more immature than I am, especially at this point."
I'm just gonna tell you right now.... even though I also agree some of the people on here were both Funny AND immature, I'd give you the Giant E-Peen award if I could. You spent the better part of 3 days involved in arguing with people over your comments and then insulting them lol?
Bro, at 27, the dad of two, AND a gamer with a balanced family, work and free-time lifestyle......I'm telling you to S.T.F.U. I don't care how old the other people here act like. You've beaten them all. Congratulations your a certified E-Thug. Go be that somewhere else.

You all are amusing... you're honestly arguing over the rumors that the kid was his, and if he got laid? Is that really the issue here? Lol, did this man, who tried to kill his mother, who is letting him live at home, hurt a child and then threatened to kill his grandfather... get laid?

Okay I'm not sure who Iam addressing this to the author of the story I guess. WTF after reading the comments and the comments on the front page who allows this stuff to continue back and forth? I read a person cc's comment not coming back because because she has a history of arguing? Some of you are easy going, but others must be relatives of the owner this stuff is down right sick.

LOL @ this loser. lol @ wow. lol @ mcr for getting under every1's skin, she/he/it prolly is loling right now at you all. lol @ grandpa-handgun so to review, 27, lives with parents, plays wow, attacks mom, gets shot by grandfather. priceless

FINALLY, someone got it right! Thank you jager05!
HE WAS DRUNK.
And an ass.
He was a DRUNKEN ASS.
Oh yeah, and a 27 year-old GROWN MAN who is living off not only his mommy, but his grandfather, too! THAT'S what makes him a loser.

i think all us fellow world of warcraft players understand

he was drunk due to drinking. . .clearly the games fault

Guys, if he was in ICC at 10% on Blood-Queen Lana'thel, then who wouldnt have done the same?

MCR...you're great! The only reason why I kept reading this thread was because of you! You're the best! ;)

I know this guy. He was a waiter for me at applebees for a whole summer. He does have a son that stays with him every two weeks. He just started playing WOW but he was always a drunk.

Wow. That is all I can say is wow. (Nothing to do with the game lol.) This doesn't surprise me though. Stupidty comes with drinking. Although I must say it is not fair to blame it on the game. I am a mother and I play WoW, never in my life have I ever seen anything like this.. My husband on New Years played WoW and had a bit to drink and got a little cocky (not towards me on the game) and decided to attack a WAYYY higher level player (like he was lvl 20 alliance and attacked a lvl 80 horde) and the horde character just killed him and laughed with "LOL" but you couldnt read it because each faction speaks a different language. So he signed off and came to bed and said, I obviously cant play WoW when I am drinking.. and told me. We both just laughed. But I can't believe someone actually attacked someone over WoW..

First off.. it's common courtesy to listen to your mom, especially if you are living with them.
Secondly... contsantly drinking while there are underage kids in the house.. and you are that irresponsible is stupid..
At last but not least, attacking someone over something so minuet and your son/brother IS JUST PLAIN WRONG!

If you are going to play a game like WoW .. and i will admit it is quite addicting.. you need to learn when to quit.. as a parent.. I do not let WoW interfere with my family life.. I play WoW for my ME time. and when I am needed by my husband or children.. i quit playing. no if's, and's, or but's about it. If there are things that need to be done.. I don't play..

REAL LIFE (responsibilites and family and such) come before your SECOND LIFE (like WoW)

end of story.

The world is going to hell in a handbasket! Where are people's priorities anymore?? and compassion??

This is so sad. I feel bad for the family for being related to such a stupid ass!

He gives all WoW players.. especially the WoW players that are parents a VERY BAD rep.

Has anyone heard if Blizzard is going to do anything??

Like ban him from Blizzard games or anything?

@WoWMama- I agree with you 100%

The majority of people who play video games and typically WOW are much more likely to commit these types of attacks.

peanut,
In keeping with your sentiment, do think it's possible that excessive playing of pacman has led to the obesity epidemic in the US?

@ mcr Obviously you don't understand sarcasm.

^ the above poster does not realize the thread is about 3-4 months old.

He probably plays a horde character.

mcr's comments were quite hilarious in the beginning!but studying law doesn't make you "better than 99% of the people" out there!!she's just being a bi*ch who bites anyone who comments on her