oh jeez, let them tear him up in prison. it's not like a 14 year old doesn't know right from wrong that he should be coddled after a double homicide. gimme a break.

Kills his parents over chores? There's gotta be more to this story....perhaps a histoty of mental problems or something? I think I'll wait for more information before I pass judgement on this kid.

DEFINATELY toss that little shit in adult prison for the rest of his life! Who cares what happens to him once he's in there, that's the whole point of prison, it isn't supposed to be fun or nice, it's punishment! I say put him in prison until he's 18 then put his evil little ass to death. He knew what he was doing, he knew what he was going to do when his stepdad came home and he sat and waited like a predator. Go easy on this little douche and he'll do it again! Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent!

I guess a time out is out of the question.

This kid is obviously a psychopath, so he should definitely never be allowed to go free ever again.

he's obviously not well and doesn't belong in prison. He needs mental therapy ASAP!

I dont feel sorry for the parents. It was the fathers fault for not adequately hiding his pistol or other weapons. It is this lack of gun control that has the country in this situation. The father should have been responsible.

@Diana Garcia. There is no mental therapy for double homicide. Not every "mental illness" is curable. He belongs locked away for good.

Hahahaha, lack of gun control? Are you serious!? "I want to kill someone but since there's no access to guns I guess I'll just change my mind." Give me a break.

They should not only keep him in prison, but amputate both his hands. He can serve the rest of his life as a chicken bobbing on other dudes genitals. Good riddance.

Excellent troll johnson j, had me going for a second!

Lock him up until he goes to trial, but before the trial give the kid a complete psych evaluation. Then decide if he spends his whole life in a prison or in a psych ward.

Unless he blames it on video games, then just give him the death penalty.

I'm with Cheryl. There HAS to be more to this story. Its shocking and horrible. If he played the rest of the day, he probably had some tremendous emotional separation from what he had just done. Sounds like he needs to be in an institution of some sort because he sounds very dangerous.

As for the earlier poster, Ryan: using language you used betrays the fact that you have some anger issues that need addressing. What happened was a horrible tragedy for everyone including the boy. It needs to be treated with some amount of respect and solemnity.

Lock him up for the rest of his life. A 14 year old DOES know right from wrong and mental therapy isn't going to be enough. Keep him off the streets and prevent him from having his own messed up kids. The parents obviously should have kept better control over their firearms (locks and safes aren't hard to buy...) and should have also done a better job of parenting. This whole story is just sad

Johnson J's comment is ridicicolous. It his parents fault for not hiding the gun well enough? Give me a break. Most kids are not going to grab a gun and shoot their two parents. He even used tactics and planning to kill his stepfather.

If the father locked up his gun and made it impossible for his kid to grab it then maybe they wouldn't have been shot. It still wouldn't have changed the fact that this kid thinks he can get away with anything and it would have only been a matter of time before he decided to shoot someone else (maybe a classmate, a teacher, bully at school, etc...).

Cherlly's comment is also ridicilous. Waiting to hear about mental problems before you pass judgement? Are you serious? Of course he has mental issues, he shot both his parents! That is not something a normal, healthy, kid does. Anyone who kills another human being obviously has mental issues. People with mental issues that drive them to kill, do not deserve to live a life with the rest of society. It's a bummer that their brain is that way I guess but we can't just let people get away with killing someone because "there was something wrong with him".

@johnson j, Don't blame this on the gun control. This kids a fucking psychopath, I know men, kids, teenagers who have been shooting sense they were born.

The way you keep your children from shooting and killing people is by showing them how DANGEROUS a gun is, and that it can KILL people.

But this kid obviously KNEW that it can KILL seeing as he WANTED to KILL his parents. This kids a fucking psychopath when i was 14 I was smoking dope jesus christ i wasn't shooting my parents.

If he didn't have a gun the kid would have used a kitchen knife. And you would be blaming the fucking dad for not putting it in a safe place for his FUCKING 14 YEAR OLD.

This kid should be put in jail until he is 18 years old, and than executed.

"Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent" Best quote I have ever seen, as for the rest of you @Delilah said: "This kid is obviously a psychopath" That is right on and no about of mental health treatment will help the kid. No matter what this kid should never be back in society he is a danger anyone he comes in contact with.
@johnson j you are clearly smoking something, the kid kills his mom and step-dad and you blame it on no gun control laws. I someone beats the crap out of you for being stupid will you blame it on not having fist control laws?

I say you bury that kid alive with his dead parents. That will teach to take out the garbage.....Execute that stupid kid

@AC by blaming johnson j for smoking something is being a hypocrite. Just because I smoke drugs doesn't mean im a low life like that guy

@Jaw. If you are smoking meth or crack...yes that makes you a low life.

Wow, hope you guys never get called for jury duty. You don't have all the facts yet and you've already got this guys going to the Big House.

John,
To your posting addressing me, "using language you used betrays the fact that you have some anger issues that need addressing", #1 you don't know me so do NOT try to phsyco analyze me. #2 If "shit" and "douche" offend you, TOUGH, no one was born with the right not to be offended. Plain and simple, this little SHIT is in fact a DOUCHE! Do you really truly believe this was a tragety for the boy?! Yeah BIG tragety (that was sarcasm) the kid, watched TV and happily went to school the next day after murdering his parents, classic signs of a sociopath. John, for your comments you have just earned the title "Tool" and "Douche of the Day" along with that other douche that is blaming this on gun control. What happens when someone kills someone while driving their car? Balme it on the car?! GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!
MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT!

@Jaw
Sorry I didn't mean to throw any nice partakers in with morons like johnson j. Dang it I did it again sorry morons!
AC

Once the counter goes to 0, Mommy and Daddy will respawn back at base.

they watch them on tv-the kids. i am not surprised at all and the guns are easy to come by. great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only in the great united states of assholes

If the facts are correct, this kid needs to be put in prison. Most people who turn into killers start with the Macdonald Triad at a young age but this kid skipped right into double homicide. With the fact he showed no remorse and killed his own parents, I don't think he can be rehabilitated mostly because of his young age. If you are that young, can do that much damage, and feel nothing, of course he's very capable and willing to do it again.

I take back my last statement, "Frederick" just earned the titles "Tool" and "Douchbag of the day"

You're all nuts.

Execute kids!
- Go join Al Qaeda, you'll among friends.

Keep him in mental institution!
- To discover what we already know.

All 14 year olds know right from wrong!
- Some only know the difference between gonna get in trouble and not gonna get in trouble.

Gun controlls!
- You've never used anything sharper than a spork have you?

Clearly THIS kid does not know right from wrong. If he did he would feel the full weight of it. This kid only knows he's going to get in trouble.

The smartest ones (conniving little demon) are not necessarily wise or even morally developed.

Is he an evil little s**t? Premediation and planning,absolutely. Is he morally cognitive? Hardly.

Haha, drove his stepdad's truck to school, awesome!

Obviously a nut case but I don't know about prison, certainly some kind of institute for a very long time. Prison isn't meant to be a punishment (even though it is often used as one). It's mean to be about rehabilitation and it would definitely do this kid way more harm than good.

This means that the terrorists have won.

I'll wait for the ABC Friday Night Movie version before deciding just how insane this uber-brat is.

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Haha, drove his stepdad's truck to school, awesome![/quote]

Obvious 10 year old is obvious.

Jenn M,
How the F*** does a 14 year old kid murdering his parent mean that the terrorists have won?! You have just earned a place next to Frederick and John as a Tool and Douche of the day.

*parents

"Pete said:
Hahahaha, lack of gun control? Are you serious!? "I want to kill someone but since there's no access to guns I guess I'll just change my mind." Give me a break."

No, it is us that deserve a break from moronic "logic" like this. Here are a couple things for you to chew on, take small bites. The main plan for Columbine was to use explosives. They wanted to blow everyone up. This was their primary plan. Now, explosives are very difficult to get a hold of and in many cases illegal. Guns are pretty simple too get a hold of. How many kids and teachers died from their primary plan of using explosives and how many died from their secondary, plan B? How many would have died if they couldn't get a hold of any guns? Go slowly, we'll wait.

A second example is the guy who went on a rampage through a Walgreens with a knife. He killed a baby and wounded about a half dozen people before being subdued. How many would he have killed had he had a firearm?

It is beyond moronic to argue that a knife and a firearm is equivalent. You degrade your position and make the pro-gun crowd look like loons and morons when you throw this out. When someone breaks into your house, you really don't care if they bring a baseball bat or a gun? Really? Simply put, had this father properly stored his firearms, there is a pretty good chance 2 people would not be dead. Not 100%, not by any measure, But reasonably... come on. Have a grown up debate or don't debate at all.

ya, kid is acting like an animal as it were. need to put him in a cage i guess, until he figures his shit out. and/or dose him with 10 hits (1000 micro-grams) of LSD every month for a year or three years.

off with his head (full stop)

Ah, the reaping has begun. The flood gates are opening. Another horror tale brought to you by ritilin, prozac & the like. Melissa Huckaby, Andrew Conley, Alyssa Bustamante, Christopher Speight, now this kid. Some financed by medicaid (which you pay for) I'm going to buy stock in public bonds that finance prison construction. Eventually, there will be 2 kinds of people left, those addicted to anti-depressants and the police.

Ghost,
The only argument you gun control nuts can come up with is always "Colombine" is that all you have to fall back on?! I know you've heard this time and time again, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Why don't you ever state the facts of how many lives guns have saved? How many murderers, robbers, car jackers, rapists were stopped because someone with a gun (and a permit of course) was there to stop them. I know this isn't a gun control debate but it looks as though it's turning into one. Yes the stepdad should have had his firearm locked away. But who knows, maybe the kid had the combo, we don't know.
And to touch on your comment "When someone breaks into your house, you really don't care if they bring a baseball bat or a gun? Really?" do you REALLY think that having tougher gun laws is going to prevent a CRIMINAL from having one?! All the law abiding citizens would turn their guns in and all the criminals would have easy pickins! You are a fucking idiot with your way of thinking. How about YOU give up YOUR right to bear arms, and let your neighbor put a sign in front of their house that reads "My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns, their house is not armed, to respect their opinion I promise not to use my guns to help protect them" now THAT sounds fair to me! If you want to continue on your gun control debate I'm all for it, I have PLENTY of facts and references for you.
TOOL!

@Pete and all others saying Johnson J is "smoking something" for blaming gun control. Proper gun control would have stopped this. While this child has mental issues, it is much easier to shoot someone and walk away than stab someone with a kitchen knife. From looking at the boy, his mother could easily have wrestled the knife away from him. The boy did not use 'tactics' to kill anyone, he pulled a small piece of metal. The boy did not have to think, he just had to be angry.
Gun control would have stopped this boy from so easily murdering his mother and stepfather. If you think otherwise, then I am sorry you do not have the capacity to see the that simply locking your gun up is no different than locking your door, it's a safety precaution to prevent things like this from happening.

Randall,
You are falling in line with all the other tools before you. GUN CONTROL LAWS DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS CRIME, the fact that the father did not lock his own gun up may have but that is yet to be determined. This has nothing to do with GUN CONTROL LAWS. You are trying to blame the gun for the actions of the evil person using the gun! IT'S THE PERSON NOT THE OBJECT!

The issue here isn't whether or not the kid should be locked up. Of course he should be locked up if not just for the sake of preventing him from harming others. It's a question of where he should be locked up. This is only something psychologists and a properly informed jury can determine. If he's clinically insane, then he should probably in a high security mental institution. If he's not insane and fully aware of his actions, then prison may be the place. Or maybe 4 years institution, then prison when he hits 18. I don't know.

These people shouldn't have had a gun in the house where this kid could have access to it. That's just plain common sense, so these dead people were apparently not intelligent enough to own a gun. This wasn't caused by lack of gun control, because the kid didn't go to the store and buy the gun. This was obviously caused by complete stupidity on the part of the parents.

Christ’s Coming and Its Consequences
(12:49-53)
I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

i bet his mom was a particularly nagging bitch that drove him fucking insane

no way.i think he should get to go to disney world.not jail.he's just 14.awwww.not that's why we have these crime's happen hell you cant even slap ur kid anymore.yes he should go to jail then to prison then he should be put to death.but no that's no the american way.so we still have these crimes going on.and as for mental home some of you people are unreal.if he were mental why would he hide and then shoot his stepdad then go to school then go on a joyride.now i hope he go's on an electric ride.the end

I wonder if he told his X-Box Live buddies what he just did.

I too am going to reserve judgment until I see how this plays out. I think the child has knowledge that what he did was wrong, but I think there is major emotional separation from what he did. He went and played games and then went to the school like nothing happened? That's not normal. He needs to be evaluated by a psych. I am not saying in the least that he should be unleashed on the world at large; but, it should be decided if prison or a psych hospital is the best.

There's def got to be something behind this..mental illness or abusive parents perhaps...

to bad noah it was'ent you.what a stupid post.

Why are we arguing about a mental hospital vs prison? The important part is that he's locked away for life. With that being the case, who cares about his mental state? As a contributing member of society, he's finished. Why would we spend any time, effort or money trying to figure out the source of his problems and how to correct them? For whatever reason whether he's insane, evil, stupid, crazy or bored, he murdered two people over chores. He's going to get locked up for life. He's proven himself to be too dangerous to be free in society. The rest is inconsequential.

ohhh lucy.sure it's the parent's the music''the game's he played''and any other bs.some of u retards come up with the most insane shit.i think john wayne gacy's parent's just were mean to him to.ted bundy got his ps3 taken from him.the thing is all of you need to know is some people are just f---ing nut's and need to die.13 14 15 16.adult hell yes.law's need to be changed this country is going to hell.we let every teen by with whatever they do.so they think now they will get out of whatever they do when there 21.so it's ok to kill 5-10 people.he need's life at the very least.but should get death.

John Caudle is not a monster. The John I know is a sweet, shy, funny kid who likes to read. John grew up with a single mom who had a lot of problems. John spend his entire life the victim of abuse and neglect. Does that make what happened right? No. Did John kill his mom and step-dad because he's a spoiled kid and didn't want to do his chores. HELL NO! And now the DA of Alamosa county wants to be the big-shot and slam dunk this confused kid into life in prison. Nice. This child is not a threat to society. I've spent a lot of time with John. He's never shown any signs of being disturbed. Something happened out there at that house. And to treat him like a Jeffery Dahmer or Charles Manson is shameful.

leigh anne,
Seriously, if you can say, was he on ritilin and other psyche meds? If he was a victim of abuse (I guess by his real father) and had "problems" from this, the first thing social services does is get them medicated in order to make them complacent. They can't refuse or give informed consent b/c they are children and have no rights.

guns are to blame in this situation. it doesnt get any easier than pulling the trigger for someone as unstable as that.

Sentence him to fifty years of hard chores.

this kid is so stupid. he really thought he could go to his uncles withought even..thinking his uncle would call his parents. yah right. i think he should get tried as an adult. i mean he had the ability to shot his parents and be happy as ever so apaently he had no feelings.. so he should do fine in jail/.!

Better watch it, Sam. He'll be coming for you next.

It wasn't just take out the trash or just clean his room, it was take out the trash AND clean his room. The mother just went too far. If she had told him to do the dishes as well, he would have been justified in eating her. Or something.

On the gun-control thing - I think this is a pretty clear situation where having stronger gun control laws that would prevent kids from having access to them would have stopped this from ever happening. At least from the way the article was written, I think it was obvious that this was not pre-meditated, so if he had no access, he probably wouldn't have done it. Besides, it takes a cold person to stab someone or something along those lines, so I doubt that he would have found an alternative method. It's just too easy to kill someone with a gun - just pull the trigger and it's done. Even if he did, what is the point of giving him such an easy option? To protect your stupid "right" (if you even count it as that, which I surely don't) to bear arms? What part of that says you have a right to leave loaded weapons in the open? If you're serious about not infringing the rights of others, why would you support the ability of someone to take the life of another human being? In my book, life trumps all of that other BS.

Well someone is using my name on here or there's just 2 Ryans (probably 2 Ryans) I didn't write "Better watch it, Sam. He'll be coming for you next" or "I like to touch myself"............even though I DO like to touch myself.

Tyler,
You are a fucking moron, go back under whatever rock you've been living under your whole life! You said "it takes a cold person to stab someone" You're telling me it doesn't take a cold person to shoot his mother, then hide and wait for his step father, and shoot and kill him?!!! WOW, you make it sound like killing someone with a gun is sooooo much easier that killing someone with any other objet. Question for you, have you ever killed anyone with a gun? If not, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MORONIC DOUCHE! Although I'm pretty sure this disturbed little bastard would have found an alternative method, his access to the gun was his stepfather's fault for not locking it up properly. Some of you people are fucking mental cases, looking to blame everyone/thing other than the guilty criminal!

Tyler Colwell,
I agree. I don't think they should get rid of all guns (b/c then only the criminals would have guns and they would know this and then we'd all be really screwed.) But what would be the harm in stricter laws? How many stories are there where people are on drugs/drunk, mentally ill or a kid has gotten a hold of a gun? They should just toughen up the laws to not only include convicted felons, but people convicted of drug possession, (if a misdemeanor) DUI's, drunk in public, mentally ill, on psych meds, (they won't let you in the military if you are on psych meds when you apply) and anyone with children in the household under 18, and you should have to pass a mental exam. Why should people like Christopher Speight have guns? What's the point in waiting until he killed all those people to do something?

All of you preaching your "gun control" nonsense, do us all a favor and wear a sign around your necks that states your stance on gun control, and wear it proudly, make sure to put on the card how your house is also gun free. We'll see how long you last, hopefully you'll see the error in your thinking. Either that or we'll have one less gun control nut to listen to.

I have to pass a test to get a driver's license, the only prerequisite to owning a gun is not being a convicted felon.

A mental exam?! Well that being said, people should DEFINATELY have to pass a mental exam in order to have the right to free speech! Some of the crap that comes out of peoples mouths can do a lot more damage than someone with a gun. Plain and simple there are FAR more law abiding citizens that own guns and save lives than do criminals or insane people.

The right to drive a car isn't in the constitution.

So what if he'll be torn apart in big boy prison. He should have thought about that before killing his mother, or in between killing her and his step father. It had to dawn on him that murder is punishable by prison. I say if you are brave enough to pull the trigger than you are old enough to go to prison.

Soon this will be blamed on a mental disorder and everyone will come out of the wood work to say how we should go easy on him and sympathise with this psycho. Lets face it, if kids are murdering they need to be punished. They're seeing all these other kids basically getting away with it, or atleast get lowered sentences and they think they'll get away with it too.

In order to carry a gun you have to go through a background check, and go through and pass a concieled weapons permit course. If you do not have a permit the weapon should not be leaving your house unless going hunting or for sport. The only people not abiding by that are who? Criminals, who wouldn't follow your stricter laws anyway.

The problem with society all of you who don't place the blame in the right place. You want to blame, the guns, you want to blame a "mental disorder" you want to blame TV, you want to blame video games, you want to blame everything and everyone except the person/people to blame.

Ryan,
That's fascinating. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the constitution was written in 1776 and cars weren't invented until the 1900's. Plus no one's bitching about not being able to drive b/c pretty much anyone can, it doesn't depend on race or sex, whoever's got the money to pay, and can pass the test (now that you don't have to take it in english anymore) can drive. So if most of the people who have guns are law-abiding citizens (& I agree) what would be the harm in stricter laws added to the already existing ones? But it doesn't matter anyhow. His fate is sealed. They won't blame guns or mental disorders b/c the pharmaceutical and healthcare industry owns the government, just like China.

Ok then it doesn't say anything in the constitution about having the right to transportation, is that better? If you want to keep putting more and more laws on guns, in the end we'll lose our right all together. Again this is NOT a fact of gun control, this is about a nut job kid who got a hold of his step dads gun, and the stepdad should have taken it upon himself to secure the weapon properly. That's it!

But the logical premise between driving and owning a gun is similar. I am being entrusted with an intrinsically dangerous object. If gun laws were just a little stricter, then they could be kept out of the hand of this kid and people like Speight and the TX military shooter. And I'm not saying this kid HAS a mental disorder, I'm saying he was probably GIVEN ONE if he was medicated. Just like a person who commits a crime while their high on meth or crack, of course that's wrong and that person should be held responsible b/c they chose to take it and then commit that crime. It's still drug-induced insanity. The illegal drugs are a choice (somewhat) but the drugging of kids is never a choice on their part, it's mandatory and they have no recourse against it. I just choose to not have guns in my house b/c I have a kid. If my husband wanted a gun and there were no kids in the house, that would be fine with me. It's common sense not have guns accessible to kids. These people don't appear to have enough common sense.

Ryan,
Well, I have to agree with that. If I did have a gun in my house and I let my kid have access to it, I would fully EXPECT them to shoot me if they became enraged. (Not b/c they are bad, but that's what I'm here for, to teach self-control and discipline to my kid in order to succeed in life, obviously we are not born with it!) These people were very foolish, just I would be if I went and walked around on I-95, so now their dead.

Did he have Social Emotional Agnosia as part of Aspergers? If so he could have been a happy enough kid, even liked his parents, but been utterly logical with no real idea why he should be upset at having 'solved' his problems.

Whats funny about all this is while you idiots are arguing about gun control, you are forgetting the fact that THE KID F--KING KILLED HIS PARENTS!!! How about we get back to the matter at hand now. It was his own stupid idea, he probably found out where his dad's gun was, and he had premedited his parents murder "one of these days, if they send me to do one more chore, i am going to clean their clocks" probably went through his mind. Anyways, he went along to do whatever he wanted to do then he tried going to his uncle's house the day after, he obviously had it planned and was going to go through with it. Something made his dumbass snap. What a fucking idiot.

How on earth could gun control have prevented the TX TERRORIST?! There are always going to be events here and there with someone that goes nuts and goes on a shooting spree, or a strangling spree, or a butchering spree, etc. If anyone want to get a gun they don't need to go to a store to get one. And no matter how many laws you put in place criminals will ALWAYS have guns and they will ALWAYS sell guns. Personally I think having children in the house is MORE of a reason to have a gun. If someone broke into MY house where MY family is supposed to be safe, I am going to protect them at ALL costs, and that means putting a bullet between the eyes of the criminal. At the same time, I am responsible enough to keep it locked away, and at the same time I can teach my kids about gun SAFETY and proper handling, so if they are ever at a friends house and they come across a gun they won't be facinated and pick it up, instead they'll know the dangers and stay away.

Oh, that is right, that TX guy was in the military anyway. But you do make a good point about teaching kids about gun safety.

When I was a kid, my dad showed me all his guns, I helped him clean them and he taught me about gun safety. Back then the 80's keeping your gun in a nifty little safe wasn't too common, and I knew exactly where my dad kept his, but I knew #1 how dangerous guns are, and #2 if I touched them I'd get an ass whoopin. So guess what, I DIDN'T GO NEAR THE GUNS. Even when I was pissed off because of chores, or when I would get grounded, even as a pissed off at the world teenager, I NEVER SHOT MY PARENTS. This kid was CLEARLY a sick twisted evil bastard that needs to fry........when he turns 18.

He would have to be a far more confused person to have social emotional agnosia. He wouldn't be able to decide how to react, certainly not retrieve a gun. If he was disabled, I'm sure the parents would have had more sense than to leave the gun lying around.

That kid should never see the light of day again.

Send him to pound-you-in-the-ass prison like any other murderer.

This kid sounds like he's got very serious mental problems, and emotional catatonia. He doesn't act like "normal" kids, he doesn't feel emotions like normal kids, and he's mentally detached from any of his actions. He's possibly mentally under-developed as well. Possibly he thought that if he killed his parents, they would "magically" reanimate, and nothing bad would come from his shooting them. At the very least he sounds like he's totally detached from normality.
The best place for him would be in a criminal psych ward for the rest of his life.
Definitely a psychopath-a bit young, but that's the breaks.

RYAN, WHO THE HELL MADE YOU THE FUCKIN ADMINISTRATOR/COMMENTATOR ON THIS SHIT! YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO ARGUE DOWN EVERYONE'S POINT!?!?!?! SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND CHILL... And pick up your own title as "Tool and Douche of the Day", while you're at it! First Of all, I am not a gun-control advocate or anything (I'm not for it, I'm not against it persay, it is what it is), but you would be stupid (which I'm guessing you are) not to see how if he didn't have such easy access to the gun, this might have not went down the way it did. If he did come at them with a knife, or a bat, there's a higher probability that a grown adult could overpower a skinny little 14 yr. old! Secondly, I do agree that there would probably be some background information and mental health problems (which that leigh-anne geist character did confirm) that would be variables that need to be considered, before come to such a quick harsh judgement in this case. When you're abused, messed up, and mentally disturbed, things like this do happen (and you can't use the whole "they would have given him drugs for that" excuse, cause u have no idea whether he didn't take them that day, or wtvr could be the case). However, I'm not naive enough to not see that this kid needs to take responsibility for his actions, that he's clearly some kind of evil and should receive punishment. But keep in mind, as uneffective as it may be, prison is meant for rehabilitation, not for throwing someone away and having them never see the light of day. I think this kid needs to be in a straight-jacket, in the back of some assylum or some craziness. (kay maybe that's harsh, but definitely not back in society, not in prison, and not in one of those lavish mental health rehabs where people are living like they're in a hotel or something).

OH MY GOD, RATHER THAN TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION CIRCUMSTANCES AND EVIDENCE AND SENTENCE-STRUCTURE, I AM JUST GONNA RANT ABOUT HOW THIS LITTLE FUCKER NEEDS TO GET ASSRAPED AND KILLED FOR HIS WRONGDOINGS, THAT'S RIGHT, ASS-RAPED AND KILLED. VOTEREPUBLICAN '12.

RYAN, you are a genius. im definitely on your side about gun-control. i mean, when im in an inner city, and some nigger gives me a bad look, well, that nigger needs to get shot. gun-control nutjobs wanna take the good things in life away from us: guns, warm-apple pie, a good love-making session with my fat wife, and cigarette smoke all in my face everywhere i go. fuck those libtards, and their fascist ways. EVERYONE LISTEN TO RYAN, THEN WATCH FOXNEWS!

Wow... I think it's official... He called someone else it earlier, but it appears that Ryan is the "Douch-of-the-day". Good job, Ryan. BTW, keep commenting on these forums. Everyone just loves hearing you rant.

well there are countrys in the world where civilians aren't allowed to have guns, and we're still happly living our lives without having the fear of some psyco like ryan shoot us because we forgot to buy sugar on the grocery store and went to the neighboor asking for some to bake our cake.

oh and the big bad criminals here have guns aswell

Ryan you'r clearly having sex with your gun.

ARE YOU KIDDING? Obviously this kid has some problems if he can kill his parents then play and drive around all happy. If he is not charged as an adult, who else will he kill? I'm not all for kids getting charged as adults, but in this case, this boy obviously has issues and needs to be put away and never let out.

Ryan, you need to take a fucking break from the internet with all of those posts...

Also killing someone does not mean you are crazy. Sure it's one of the more common reasons, but anyone can be in their right mind and kill a person, regardless of who it is. What if instead of "the kid watched movies and played games the rest of the day" turned out to be "police have found that evidence that his parents were murderers and would kill their son if he found out, so he took action first!"

Terrible thing... But why would a kid act like this? One, he probably has mental instability, as suggested by another poster..

Two, and this one probably has an enormous impact as well, the dead couple weren't good parents.. They probably ridiculed him, made him feel like crap, and argued against any sensible things he might say. In retrospect, we'd like to say 'the kid should suck it up', but haven't you ever been an extremely frustrated child? It's difficult dealing with parents that resist common sense and simply insult you and make commands because they feel they should have that power. Respect should be earned, and many parents treat their kids like property.

We've all been so angry at one time or another that we feel like we could just explode.. That probably happened to this boy... and depending on how far he was pushed, the rest of is decision was likely filled in by an under developed concept of life, violence, etc.. It could be that he had some mental illness.

Bad Parenting has to be part of this equation, no matter how I look at it.

@ Melody: The boy is a child. It's obvious he doesn't have a proper understanding of life. Instead of throwing him into jail until the day he dies, don't you think we should educate him on how to properly behave? Have some empathy. Yeh, put him in the Psych Ward, but if he develops into a decent person, maybe he can rejoin society again someday. It's not like they'd just let him loose all of a sudden. There would be strict reports concerning his mental state and ability to socialize along with continued surveillance.

Even criminals, especially children, deserve another chance.

Oh, and Ryan, that wasn't Ghost's weak argument that he had to fall back on. Columbine was a simple example of the obvious.. He continued to make his point very well.

You yourself said that if you got near your father's guns, you'd get an ass whooping. Clearly you're not a person defined by logic, but by fear and abuse.

Wow, this article has become a Ryan love fest.

maybe Ryan should start touching himself some more...

Damn, there are so many things wrong with this story. Maybe if parents were allowed to "discipline" their children without fear of having Social Services take them away things would be different. Maybe if the parents cared enough to discipline them, or if the schools were funded properly or video games weren't so violent, I'm guessing he wasn't playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure. There's just way too much wrong in this country.
And the 2nd Amendment is not a personal right, it's a right of each individual state to set gun laws and maintain a militia. Though I can still have a gun in my house, cause I'll flat out shoot your uninvited ass back out the door. Nonetheless, we're all screwed!

What kind of kid would kill parents over chores? Maybe he had no love for them or something... or maybe he had mental problems...

Sorry morons but Ryan is completely correct. Driving a car isnt a right nor would it have been a right when the constitution was written. rocki's saying that shows that the dip shit doesnt know the first thing about it or the spirit in which it was written. I am sick and tired of you fuck tards spouting your anti American crap.

Owning a weapon is a RIGHT, not a privilege for any government agency to restrict. Look up the difference between a right and a privilege you fuckin retards. Stop striping us of our rights or this country, that many in my family have died for, will erupt in a civil war and you no gun having assholes will not win.

This country is a Republic NOT a Democracy, you have NO right to vote any ones right away. Fuckin asshole pansies..

@Bacon

The Bill of Rights was written for the people. Not part of it but all of it.

Anything NOT covered by the Bill of Rights or the Constitution falls to the state.

I'm not sure who's dumber...Ryan or all the people who are buying what he's selling and getting all bent out of shape about it. He's a troll, people! His only goal in life is to argue down everyone's point and piss people off. He's got nothing else! Don't you see?!?!?!

THE GAME

Maybe so mrc, but he is not the idiot who brought gun control into the argument. From my perspective, rocki is the troll. Not only is he a troll but he is an enemy of the Constitution as without guns we cannot have a Constitutional Republic. That is why the founding fathers felt it so important to include the RIGHT to bear arms. As Ben Franklin left the signing of the Constitution he is quoting as saying, in regards to the type of government, "A republic if you can keep it". Our founding fathers used very clear and concise language in the Constitution instead of the legal mumbo jumbo in all other legal documents so the common man could understand it. No one need read anything into it as it is all there.

I say execute him now. this kid will amount to nothing but a societal liability/burden, even with extensive behavioral/psychiatric rehabilitation and incarceration. this country is a steaming pile of shit and the stench will only get worse with time. there is no hope for the human race and the only solution is a global apocalypse. hooray armageddon!!!

time's cynicism showing up???

Chill fags, 2012 is near, stop worrying on these little issues and figure out what you should do when the world is at its end.

This murder case isn't as big as you think. 'tards

hahaha Ryan LOVES his guns and abusing people .. America f yeah! way to re-enforce the gun toting redneck stereotype :D Ryan you made me LOL

boobs....that is all...

"but if you take a gander at the kid's photo, this isn't a boy who'll survive an adult prison -- perhaps not even juvenile jail." But he can kill his parents and act like nothings wrong then escape? absolutely he can survive it, I don't care if he doesn't.

This is really sad....are you people even paying attention to what you are saying? This could happen to any of us....yes, thats right....your own child could kill you just for the hell of it.

Studies have shown that a persons brain is not fully developed until they are in their late teens/early 20's. Sure kids are taught right from wrong but they don't fully grasp the consequences of their actions. We've all been teens before so you know what its like....its all about "me," we live in the moment.

Television, movies, video games etc. subject young people to way too much crime and violence and often its glorified. What's rarely shown is the devastation thats left in its wake.

Wake up people.

Alrighty then.. im'a ready ta kill some parents...

I agree with Cheryl.

Okay. Gun control - SURE. The dad maybe should have locked up his guns. And like "Ryan" said, for all we know, he did have it locked up and the kid somehow knew the combination. I'm sorry guys, but I am with Ryan on this. Gun Control Laws did not contribute to this crime. Something is obviously not right in this kids head. Take it from me. When I was 12, i was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and sometimes when you get angry, you cant control it. I cant tell you how many times i banged my head against my TILE FLOOR, and made my own head bleed just to STAY HOME FROM SCHOOL. And honestly, I didnt feel any of the pain until the next day. I felt fine and dandy. So *something* is not right in this kids head. If a gun wasn't present, what is to stop the kid from grabbing a perfectly accessible kitchen knife and stabbing both of them. The parents weren't together at the time. He killed them separately. Even with a knife, they would have both been easy targets. There was obviously some planning put into this. Sure, columbine and that guy that killed the baby in walgreens is a good example of how gun laws can prevent a lot tragedies. But in this case, i think not. There was obviously a motive, and the act was driven out by anger and frustration. And sometimes, and i know from experience, anger can't be controlled.

You can all suck it.

What a little fuck he should be thrown in adult jail, why would anyone be on this little cunt's side? He is 14 not 4, he knew what and why he was doing it little fucker. Lock him up throw away the key!!!!

rocki eats poop,
I may eat poop but you use it for your temporal lobe stuffing. I am very well aware of the "spirit" in which the constitution was written. It was written by people who owned houses with no electricity, running water or plumbing, who were in constant danger from wild animals, indians and many european governments trying to take over. The only things they had were guns & horses and they had a vision of creating a new country where people could be free from persecution for their religious beliefs and exploitation from government taxes. It's looks like we're doing real well on the first point, but getting basically an F on the second. You can damn well believe that if cars, electricity, & toilets had been available back then, they would be in the constitution too. "with liberty & justice for ALL"..... "if there is no justice for one of us, there is no justice for any" I'm sure you have no idea what that famous statment means.

"you have NO right to vote anyone's right away" that is a huge hunk of delusional bull shit. The consitution has been ammended several times to do just that, TAKING AWAY the right to own slaves.

Go back to school hot shit shot.

Dustin,
I'm sorry about yur situation. I'm sorry that they made you believe you are something you are not. It's this very selfish attitude that children have the same coping mechanisms as adults and if they do not conform, they need to be diagnosed and medicated. It's normal for children to have temper tantrums and get angry. My kid does it all the time. Then I tell her what's going to happen if she doesn't gain control of herself and she calms down. Every day she gets better. I don't take her to a psychologist to label and medicinially control her for may own convenience b/c I want to go to the mall without listening to whining. I made a commitment to be there for her all her life when I had her and that's always going to be my job.

Rocki, that's a good point. And I can accept and agree with that. However, Bipolar disorder is a very real disorder, and tends to manifest itself in kids around that age. Like i said, sometimes its just not possible to control what might happen. If i was a normal kid back then, throwing a normal temper tantrum, i dont think i would have resorted to banging my head against the tile floor. And even if i had, i am sure i would have felt the pain much sooner. The fact of the matter is, when you get that angry, you get an adrenaline rush, and everything else just fades away except for the reason you're angry. And its just uncontrollable. Now I was never medicated. But i did go see a therapist. Nothing special. There was no psych testing, or medicating, or anything special. Just someone to talk to on a weekly basis, get things off my chest with that doctor-patient-confidentiality, and i havent had any problems since that age. I no longer see a therapist but the concept has stuck with me and i try to talk things out and get things off my chest whenever i can. This is just my point of view, this kid may or may not have something medically and mentally wrong with him. WE DONT KNOW.

My two cents worth.

I am against gun control. Yes accidents happen sometimes, but largely guns protect people. Not only that, but it is good for people to own guns because it discourages the government from becoming tyrannical.

But as for this kid. Something is definitely mentally wrong. Personally I think he should be locked up for a long time, but not in jail, but in a mental institution. I here a lot of you guys talking about how this kid needs to be put to death. I doubt very seriously that you guys that say this have much education in abnormal psychology. You guys need to get an education. All you have to do is a little bit of reading. As for the death penalty, well it is barbaric.

Rocki-
Obviously you have something against anti-depressants, hospitals and the like. I do not believe that medicating someone is the answer to all problems, but this is about murder --not antidepressants.

This child will spend the rest of his life locked up --for good reason --and it doesn't really matter where. And I do believe there is more to this than meets the eye.

However, being on anti-depressants and other prescribed medications does not MAKE you a murderer. Having a child who needs those meds does not make you a bad parent. (And no, my kids are not on any meds). I'm sure --even if this child does turn out to be on perscription medication --that it has nothing to do with this.

Prayers for the friends and family of the victims.

Dustin,
Thank you for sharing how mental problems SHOULD be handled and the positive outcome that ensues when they are handled correctly wiht children to develop positive coping skills. Everyone should be told THIS information BEFORE any talk about medications is done.

Kathy,
As for you, there are many instances where medication has made people murderers. If you think this story is about MURDER and not antidepressants, they are basically the same topic. If it turns out he was medicated, then that will be the reason he did this. This is extremely abnormal behavior for a child of that age and would likely be drug induced. If you think that medicating children is not the answer, you are in the minority. We don't know if he was on medications but given the history, there is a high level of probablity that he was. Until we know for sure if he was on meds or not, we cannot say this is his fault or not, we don't have the whole story. We probably won't be getting it.

Rocki -
I merely stated what my issue was, and how it was handled. I agree that some kids NEED certain medications. But i also agree that they should not be the first solution to a problem. My issue was primarily the fact that i was keeping my homosexuality a secret. And at such a young age, it was a hefty burden to carry. Once i got to talking, and came out of the closet, things started to get much better. I still have mood swings every once in a while but nothing serious. The point i was trying to make is that sometimes anger cant be controlled. Which is why i firmly believe this kid in this article had something mentally wrong with him. I could be wrong, and im willing to accept that possibility with open arms, this is just my opinion. And the point i tried to make in my first post is, if this kid has a mental problem, and was really angry enough about doing chores, he would have grabbed a knife had the gun not been accessible. I pretty much dont see this tragedy (and i do agree that its a tragedy) being prevented unless the parents just NEVER asked the kid to do chores.
I firmly believe that doing chores is a good way to discipline a kid, and teach them responsibility. My mom had me doing dishes when i was 10 years old, and the chores built up since then. And now I'm able to take care of myself and i have the responsibility and motivation to clean up for myself. This is why i believe there's something mentally and medically wrong with this kid. Because chores are nothing to get THAT angry about. But he just snapped.
Idk. I'm babbling now.

Did they try giving him candy?

Um, heck yes he should be tried as an adult, and put to death. The kid frikin ambushed his stepdad!!!! If that's not premeditation idk what is! This is the society and generation that parents are raising, kids get what they want and all hell breaks loose if they don't. Where's the frikin belt at? Where's parental guidance and right from wrong? And don't say I'm someold fashioned out of date old person, I'll be 21 next month, and I'd have never dreamed of raising a hand to my parents, much less shooting them with any of the guns we had in the house...which I started shooting at 9 years old.

There is probably a ton that hasn't gotten reported on in relation to this case. Sure, the kid obviously killed out of cold blood but what made a 14yr old snap like that? It wasn't the gun, it wasn't the video game, it had to be something. Maybe his brain isn't wired correctly, which seems so considering how he acted. What if there is more to this story though? You you feel the same if you found out he was sexually abused all his life? Probably not, you would be cheering him on for killing his molesters. How about if he was whipped and beat every night, forced to live in a closet and do work around the house? Maybe one too many beatings by his father made him snap?

Obviously there's a lot more going on here, though if I'm wrong and there isn't, it wouldn't be all that surprising either.

So what now? I vote death penalty, even if it was in retaliation. Why? Well if he was sexually abused and beat the first 14yrs of his life, after the murder of his family and his obviously mental issues, he should be put down. That kid ain't gonna be right no matter what, justified or not.

What's with you people saying he doesn't feel emotional? This all will probably hit him later on. Why? He did it because he was angry at his parents for making him do chores. He didn't feel any remorse because he thought his parents were torturing him.

I am not saying that he was right to kill his parents, in no means was that right. He just needs some guidance. He should still be punished for his actions though, but something intense such as a jail where he'll get punked by other kids would probably be worse. Send him to a psychologist and give him a few years of therapy. He needs to learn how to make judgements and think ahead.

First off, I'm glad I got so many peoples panties in a bundle, and so many people have taken the time to write about me. I'm flattered. Secondly, go fuck yourselves, I'll post what I want and how often I want, you don't like it, go somewhere else. Third, radneck?! Hahahaha that's a good one. It amazes me just how many Sally ass pansies this country has nowadays, no wonder our once great nation is turning into a big, whining, "I'm offended" throbbing pussy! More of your whining kind need to make yourselves more sociable, so when I come across you TOOLS and DOUCHES of the Day I can push you down and steal your lunch money. Hahahaha now go ahead and flatter me some more. Post your blogs (although I'm sure a ton of those posts was just 1 person using a different name, a lot of those sounded very similar).
If it wasn't for people like me, people like you would either be dead or not have the rights to spew the garbage you do. I fight for the weak and the ones who can't/won't fight for themselves.

And what the F*** is this "Troll" term you data dink cyber nerds keep using?!
"Ryan's a troll" wow mcr, that cut me deep, how could you. Damn right, I love to argue down other people's point, especially people who would help benefit society if they just ceased to exist. Isn't that the point of a blog site mcr? to give your opinion on things? Oh I'm sorry, are you offended?
Oh and Paul, I'd like to teach you about some fear and abuse you little girl! I seriously laughed out loud when I read your posting where you said "Clearly you're not a person defined by logic, but by fear and abuse". What the fuck does fear and abuse have to do with knowing I'd be in deep shit if I touched my dad's (or any guns) when I was a kid without an adult present? "Ass whoopin" to me is a saying, I mean yeah I probably would have caught a backhand to the face, and it would be well deserved! If I found out my kid was playing with GUNS you bet your ass he'd get the same damn thing! But I'm sure you are the type that doesn't believe in dicipline, you sit your kid down at eye level and ASK them to please don't do that again. Yeah we'll see how your kids will turn out.
Man this is great so many people commented to me I don't know who to respond to next!

Doesn't even matter what any of you say, I'm right, you're wrong. I win.
Ryan: 1
Cyber Liberals: 0

I know, I'm mature. Bite me.

Hey Pete, can you just open up a whole new discussion topic all about gun rights? where we can take this discussion? We've clearly gotten off the topc of this murderous little bastard.

Throw him in jail with the adults. He needs to be an example for all the other teenagers with his ideas.

While I do not agree with locking up a child and throwing away the key. I do not believe he should walk either or be out in society even at 21. Obvioiusly there is something not right with him, he is old enough to know what death means, "they are not coming back". To see the blood and gore from shooting his mother and then lie in wait to shoot his father, he definitely needs to suffer consequences for his actions. If this were any "other" kid we would not be having this discussion it would have simply been "lock him up and throw away the key".

A number of posters have stated that this crime wouldn't have happened if the guns had been stored in a secure place and for the most part I agree with that. You have to be cold to kill somebody with any weapon but how brave do you have to be to kill somebody 10 feet away with a gun versus right up next to them with a knife while they're fighting back and thrashing? It says the kid hid before killing his stepdad. Why? He had a gun didn't he? Unless his stepdad was a concealed permit holder he had no reason to be afraid since he was armed. Its clear to me this kid is a pansy and even with a knife I don't think he would have thought he could overpower them. Why do some people think they need to keep loaded guns lying in easy reach across their house just waiting for kids and random house guests to stumble upon them? It puts a home owner in more danger then a home invader. I'm not at all against the ownership of guns but there should be better laws on they're storage. You can own your huge AR-15 with extended mags and laser scope but LOCK IT UP.

I'm not all liberal, in fact I am very conservative about economics. I believe in the free market. But yeah, when it comes to social values I am pretty liberal.

Ryan, what if you were to get some type of brain disease that caused you to commit violence. Should everyone all then say that you should be executed. And I am not saying that everyone that commits a crime can't help it either. I am sure that there are a lot of people that do things that they can help. But since we don't know what a persons life has been like, and since we don't know what is going on in a persons head we have no right to take a life. We also really hurt ourselves when we give in to feelings of revenge. Our main concern should be just to make sure that they never do it again, but without hurting them. Like I think that all murders, rapist, and people that sexually hurt children should go to jail for life, but I also feel that prisons should be made much more humane so that they will not be mistreated. And I personally feel that people should have to work in person to pay for their stay there. Everyone pays for what they do that they can control though. If you don't believe me then study about near death experiences. When everyone dies they have a life review, and when this happens you feel all the feelings that you caused other people to feel.

Is it too late to abort him?

They should lock him up in prison, that son of a bitch.

Commit a grown man's crime you do a grown man's time.

Subspace,
Here's part of the problem, the beaurocracy has annihilated the whole "do unto others" of our society b/c we hold certain people accountable and not others, they are too protected and that's what is force fed to the public. I actually read a report by a psychologist regarding person who was getting themselves into trouble. (this person is barely competent, legally competent but not really like you and me) The first paragraph was a list of over a dozen medications this person was receiving on a daily basis, more than 4 of them, psych meds. The last paragraph was a statement by the psychologist that this person should be held legally accountable for their behavior. I wonder how the psychologist would feel if we asked him to take that many drugs and then be held accountable. Do you think he would agree to that? I would say no.

No he should not be tried as an adult. Sure he commited a double homicide but a 14 year old doesn't have the mental capacity to think through the consequences of his actions. In males the Prefrontal cortex isn't anywhere near developed at 14.

I'm not a bleeding heart liberal I'm all for tough sentencing for ADULTS, not for kids.

Subspace,
What if I were to get some type of brain disease that caused me to commit violence?! Are you serious? Is there even a disease out there that causes someone to comit MURDER?! We can what if this all day long, but this kid is just an evil little bastard that, YES, needs to be executed when he turns 18 to prevent him from murdering the next person who tells him to do something he doesn't want to do, like his employer and work associates if he were to ever get out and get a job. You just don't get a "disease" out of the blue that causes you to murder your mother and stepfather. Even a skitso develops that disease over time. Yeah in a fantasy world where people get murderous evil diseases overnight that can be medically proven sure, put them in a looney bin, but this isn't imagination land this is real life and in real life whether you choose to believe it or not there are evil people out there. Sociopaths have no remorse, no consideration for human life whatsoever, for example a kid that murders his parents then plays, watches TV and goes to school the next day as if nothing happened, THAT kind of evil has no place in a productive society.

Pete Kotz said:

Ryan, I'll try to give you a gun forum next time I come across a story worthy of a good debate. On this one, it seems pretty much everyone agrees that the dad should have stored his weapons in a place where the kid couldn't get 'em.

This kid has a long road ahead no matter what society metes out, but I suggest they lock him in a mental institution. There was no consious remorse by this kid.

Guns: How do we know the father didn't have it locked up? The kid is 14, certainly he can figure out how to get to the weapon, he's not a two year old. Would that have really helped? The issue is not the gun. The issue is not what weapon was used to kill his mother and step father, the issue is he killed two family members who should be closer to him than anyone in the world. Without remorse.

Drugs: Rocki, while I understand that you do not like drugs administered for mental issues and depression, must you drag that into every thread of unexplained behavior and murder? It gets redundant and takes the importance away from what you're posting.

Pete,
Exactly, irresponsible dad + nut job kid = 2 dead parents.

put the fucker in jail comon any dumbass should know not to do that shit of chores o and get him a fucking mental doctor

People have to stop and think about the kid as well. what if the kid was abused to or something it does not make it right for the kid to kill the parents but there needs to be an investigation obviously!!!

put the freakin kid in jail for the rest of his life! he was old enough to know what he was doing! if ur that old ]you should know better!

Gun control is not the answer. This kid had just as easy access to a car which if I remember right kill a whole lot more undeserving people than guns do.

A gun just happened to be his weapon of choice. Don't give me that BS about guns make it too easy to make hasty decisions or guns just make it too easy to kill a person. Whether it be fire, guns, knives, poison or electrocution, if you want someone dead and have the balls to proceed, that person is going to be dead.

This kid is already fucked whether you send him to jail or a psych ward. How many child murders go on to lead normal lives? Why even risk giving him the chance to do it again. Would you welcome him into your house once he has gone through treatment?

Ok now this is just getting out of hand. Kids pickin up guns killing their parents or who ever is caring for them. This innocent lookin only kid, sat in wait went to school and planned on never returning to his home. What the justice system think that time will cure all. No he needs to see that he was wrong. just think what if he gets out by 21. Working and staying out of trouble and his boss ask him to take the trash out. Killing solved his first trash problem!!!!!!!

Gun control is not the issue here. A kid killed his parents. The weapon of choice means nothing. If he really wanted to kill his parents, he could have looked on the internet and found 100 or more ways to do it. None of us knows if the step-dad kept it locked up. But once again, if he truely wanted to kill his parents, he would have figured out how to get the gun. I mean, you people are pretty much sayin they got what they deserved because they had a gun in the house. Most people think, if they have a gun, they are gonna need it for protection or maybe even for hunting. Who would really think that their own child would ever use it against them? Yea. Maybe more so nowadays, but really? Would you think that? And over chores? Has any new things came out? Was what "leigh-anne" said true? And while on that, I'm sorry, but I find it very hard to believe when one person comes onto a site and says "this isn't true or that isn't true" but yet, they don't ever come back. It could have just been some troll or some other weirdo trying to stir the pot! We don't know! Just like we don't know if the gun was locked up or not and if the kid really has any mental disorders or was/is on any medications.

And to touch on that a little bit. I agree with jadensmokes. Rocki, no offense I usually agree and like what you have to say, but anytime something like this happens, you do the whole anti-drug thing. I agree, not all people need them. Dustin obviously didn't and I'm glad for him. I really am. Actually, I'm very jealous of him. But, some people do need them. I, being one of the thousands who suffer from bipolar and do need meds, say its up to the family, not people who don't know them. And before you say, "kids don't have a choice, they are force fed down their throats". That's not always the case. I made the decision to be on them after doing research and my mom said it was my decision. If I felt I needed them, then that was my choice. The only time they were ever "force fed" down my throat was after I had my daughter. Bipolar + postpartum depression isn't something to mess around with. And I actually made an agreement with my family that they would have my meds and make sure I took them on a daily basis since I didn't want to snap and harm myself or my daughter. Which, from Dustin's story, you can tell, medicated or not, can happen.

There isn't enough from this story for people to make the judgement that the step-father didn't have the gun locked up or that he was on meds. There isn't enough to prove it either way. But, regardless if the gun was locked up or not, its pretty safe to say, he wanted them dead and would have done anything to make that possible. I mean, he hid and waited for the step-dad. What does that tell you? Then he sat around, went to school in his step-dads truck where "he was the happiest he has been", then tried to drive to his uncles? Sounds like he had it pretty thought out. Sounds like he is a sociopath. He showed no remorse for what he had done. The complete opposite really. Only when he is caught is he sorry and remorseful.

I don't know what the right answer is. Jail or institution. Its hard to say right now knowing only he killed two people who probably loved him unconditionally over chores. This is like what, the second story in less than a month like this? Well, that one kid hired someone to kill his mom, but still. If they keep lettin people off or blaming what they did on something other than their actions, why would anyone ever learn? Why not just give molesters a slap on the wrist cause they might or might not have been molested themselves? Its blaming it on something/someone else, so what's the difference really?

I have to agree with Cheryl, this kid's reactions upon killing his parents are way, way off base with a normal individual. I think we have a pretty clear case of severe mental imbalance here and we definitely don't have the full story.

It's too early to pass arbitrary judgement, so please wipe the foam from your mouths and try to behave like adults for once, hmm?

One other small comment. Since very few people here seem to be capable of being rational and polite and maybe, just maybe, able to keep their own god-damned politics from being brought up in light of a tragedy.

Take the gun control debate elsewhere, please. This is not the time, this is not the place.

You wouldn't go to the Caudles' funeral and have a shouting match about gun control. Don't do it here either. There are appropriate places for you to yell at each other all that you want about this issue, and the strongest statement that you can make is not to argue at all, because it is very, very, very, VERY obvious that arguing about this is pointless. You're never going to change anyone's mind by arguing over the internet which removes the whole point.

If you feel strongly, write your congressman or senator or whoever Americans write when they feel strongly about something... and then do all of us a favour and shut up about it. The only thing I despise more than a zealot is watching zealots on opposite sides argue pointlessly, especially in public, over a tragedy, about their own personal politics, which is the height of rudeness in my humble opinion.

Again, can we please, please try to act like adults? Or at least how adults SHOULD be acting.

Don,
We aren't AT the Caudles funeral, and this is just a website meant for blogging and saying what's on your mind about the subject at hand, so I'd say this is most definately an appropriate place to discuss a gun control debate, whether or not the kid is a little douche, if it's the parents fault, or whatever else anyones opinion is. Maybe if this was a website set up specifically for the families of the victims , then it wouldn't be the right time or place to discuss something like that. So either suck it up because no one is worried about being labeled as rude by you. Or go to a different website where you don't have to read these postings, no one forced you here pal.

All you fucking yanks are FUCKED IN THE HEAD

he may be a psycho- &/or sociopath, but he is still 14. sure, he knows it's "wrong" to kill his parents. most of us probably wished ours were dead at least once when we were 14. but he did it. should he be tried as an adult, though? no, because he is not one. doesn't everyone know by now that your brain doesn't reach an adult level of maturity until you're (at least) in you're about 19-22? i agree, he more than likely needs to be locked up for the rest of his life, but not in an adult prison. the kid is obviously insane in some way & needs to be in a psychiatric facility with maximum security.

Another reason not to have kids. Those recessive evil genes...

"Prosecutors are currently wrestling with whether to charge the kid as an adult" are you kidding me? This little fucker should be marched right out the back of the court house and shot execution style in the back of the head.

I knew this kid, i went to school with him, and i don't think killing someone to show him that killing is wrong would be very good, its to quick and easy for him, he's being sentanced as an adult, take him to juvi till hes 18 then take him to federal prison for life.

Homicidal Crazy can't be cured by Modern Psychology, but it can be by Smith & Wesson. Spend a dollar and save the taxpayers hundreds of thousands.

FIRST OF ALL YOU BUNCH OF NARDS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL DUH JUST THROW THAT LITTLE FAG FUCK IN PRISON I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT WILL GIVE IT TO HIM REAL NICE AND HARD ALLHE NEEDED WAS SOME MALE DISIPLINE

wow this is sad, how can kids revenge on there parents over chores. this really worries me about what is having to our young generation. if kids are killing parents over the stupidest things ever. i wonder whats next?? you can't look at him? can't talk to him?

The people that say that gun control is the only answer have it half right.
Gun control...It wasn't but 40 or so years ago when people could take guns to school and the to there friends house to hunt after class. So gun control in that fashion, yes, teach him how to control the weapon. But you must see that it was the LACK of teaching that got this kid in the bucket of trouble he is in. Seems to me that no-one cared for this kid. Probly abused yes he needs locked up now in a mental institution for many years, many many years.
I have 2 kids who know how to shoot, when to shoot, where to shoot and most of all why to shoot. They know what to do when they see a gun under any circumstance. They know that they are only to point a gun at what they want to kill. Be a paper target or a squirrle for supper. They know that guns are there for one thing to kill. But like any other no moving object it can not operate without an opeerator.
So Hell yess by all means lets us have GUN CONTROL, let us all teach our kids, TEACH our kids everything from math and history to respect for all life and gun control.

something isnt right here. something really had to be wrong with the kid. mentally i mean. maybe something happened to him that made him this way.

i think you really just have to look through the problem. A kid killed his parents, and is going to jail until hes 18 then executed. thats it. instead of arguing and bad mouthing each other, just sit quietly to yourself and read the article, instead of calling someone an idiot. i'm only 12, so please don't suddenly call me a tool or anything.

Why are all these babies on this Websites were in the hell are their parents? You mister Seamus, go to bed and get off mommy and daddy's computer! This Website is for big boys and girls. Go on, go brush your teeth and off to bed you go.

Also, i just happened to read all those hateful comments (to each other and the 14yr) because my friends told me some kid killed his parents, and i looked it up. Im sad. i though adults were kind people who don't bicker and say cruel things. But its all right, that was crushed when i first saw the news at 5yrs. never thought people killed and commit such terrible lives. Im glad my life is okay so far. hope i just turn into one of you people.

Sandy, shut up. my dad died when i was 3. and i have my own lap top. its spring break anyway.

THERES SOMETHING BEHIND THIS SUCH AS ABUSE AND MENTAL PROBLEMS A LIL BOY DOESNT GO AND OFF BOTH OF HIS PARENTS JUST LIKE THAT. THIS LIL BOY NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AND SENT TO A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY

seamus,
I'm sorry about your dad, but you are only 12 years old you should not talk like that and no it is not spring break yet.
Break doesn't start until Easter. You are just a little boy and to young to be on here.

Did anyone of you know that in early times a 7 year old could be put to death for cursing his/her parents. Whether we lock him up in a mental institution or prison does not matter the fact of the matter is this he took the lives of two innocent people and did not seem to have a care in the world about it. I have read many of the comments posted. and if mental problems is an issue which i am not sure it is then he needs to be in a mental hospital for the rest of his life. His actions does not seem to be that of a person with a mental disability maybe one with anger problems or issues. Either way this kid should never be aloud to be free.

Wow gun control omg..
Hell if he didnt have a gun he stiull wanted to kill his mom. The gun just made it easier for him to to do. So i feel sory for the family and the victims R.I.P Tracy and Joanne Rinebarger

Andres Pereyda said:
"ya, kid is acting like an animal as it were. need to put him in a cage i guess, until he figures his shit out. and/or dose him with 10 hits (1000 micro-grams) of LSD every month for a year or three years."

@Andres Pereyda, you obviously have no idea what the side effects of LSD are.