Meghan Landowski Murder: Robert Barnes, 17, Convicted of Raping, Stabbing His Classmate 40 Times

• I have read many different types about this crime...what was his motive?

• Yes black people do stand behind other blacks it's necessary! Racism exists so YES it could be factor in any situation. FYI we care about our community and culture, as a whole blacks are not a culture of all thugs and criminals! Thugs and criminals contain all races ( including whites if you haven't noticed) and gender

• They should lock him in a giant microwave and cook him from the inside out.

• http://youtu.be/qfo_bDs0gQk Interesting stuff. Everyone needs to check this out!

• Look, it's not about color. I'm black. That mutha fucka is a serial rapist/ killer in the making. Had it not been her it would have been someone else's daughter,even mines. With that being said,that cocksucker should of never had a trial. Somebody should've jammed that fucking violin up his talented BLACK ASS... And I'm a fuckin black man... Fuck that shit!!!

• I'm black and i've seen this episode quite a few time,and I have a 10 month old daughter. Had I commit a crime like this,I expect death 40 fuckin times...

• burn in hell Robert Barnes....burn in hell

• Sharonda-And the race card just had to come out! Of course he's not in prison because he's worse than an animal and committed a horrible crime. No, it's only because he's black. YOU are the racist here. Blacks commit the most crime but I'm sure that's whitey's fault too. You people make me sick calling everything racist.

• Family or friend coming here to defend the worthless piece of shit criminal. If there was DNA, yeah, I would believe he was guilty. He should be strung from a tree. Your name and ghetto speak tells me your black and will defend what he did because he's the same color.

• Blacks will ALWAYS stand behind their own. Doesn't matter how atrocious the crime was. They will especially stand behind someone if the crime was against a white since they see it as racism. Perhaps if they stood against theses thugs, there maybe wouldn't be so much crime in their culture.

• Care to write that in English? We don't all read illiterate ghetto speak. Law student? You must be joking!! There was plenty of evidence. DNA can't be argued against. He took a plea deal. That's why he only got 42 years. Perhaps you should find another career.

• If races were reversed Al & Jesse would be raising hell. It would also be on the news 24 hrs. But since the races are black on white, you won't hear much about it.

• Not true!! Check out Dept. of Justice site. Blacks attack whites at a much higher rate. Heard of Wisconsin fair? Denver, Oakland, etc..,? Packs of blacks attacking mostly whites. The rest are other races. It's not racist to state FACTS. Calling someone a racist has lost it's luster. Gets used too much. Now, go read the statistics and deal w/the truth.

• Don't you know you can't state facts because it's racist? If you look at DOJ site, you'll see blacks do commit the most crimes. They also commit more crimes against whites rather than white on black. Just look at any country that has blacks and you will find it's the same all over. Why hasn't the media taken notice on the fact that packs of blacks are attacking whites and other races? Read up on Christian Channing & Christopher Newsome. Imagine if the races had been reversed? I forgot, only whites can be racist. If you think they are like the blacks you see on TV, you're wrong! When you hear/read aboutta crime, you can already guess what race is behind it. Read the comments on black sites and you'll see what they really think of whites. When they get together violence ALWAYS breaks out. Their culture is upholding violence. Be smart, don't fall for that PC crap that we are all the same and that you should feel bad for being white. Look how much has been spent on them and they only devolve. No, I'm not white, I'm a minority who pays attention to the truth.

• Once u muphuckas started makin it about race....then of course it becomes about race....what do u expect?......as long as u keep it about the case then there will be no war of words......Plain & Simple!!!

• @Lild.....fuckin CRACKER!!!

• White on white and Black on black crime exist greater than black on white or white on black....RACIST IDIOT!!!.....check the facts asswipe!!!!!!!

• check the facts.....you married to one...on benefits.....atleast we can say no when they want charity for africa..when a black dies thats one less potential murderer,rapist,thief.so when they shake the tin say NO.

• yes they're white,but there are 1000's of black killers you muppet.once gein,manson,berkowitz and gacy were taken out of society,society became safer.we'd have to send millions of blacks back to africa to make the country safer.....understand percentages..

• you piece of shit,he broke in and was waiting for her,were as an ugly piece like you would have to break into a buys house and wait for him.....

• vredmond dont try and make out you're any different,you look at the typical black and he is what you get...so stop trying to lessen the guilt by association...blacks are pack animals,only hes higher up the heirachy than you.

• they  did mention good behavior-learn to read before you call someone a dumb ass-

• ummmm serioualy you are seeriously asking that?? and where do u live so i wont move there....lol

• no, he needs prison. obviously somebody who murders somebody isn't mentally right, but he deserves prison!

• Ptaylorcat, you're the dummy because you don't know the difference between your and you're!

• @Msesay91 Your the dummy he was saying half time due to good behavior which makes the years served 21yrs and 21 plus the 17 equals 38!! Now whose the dummy. You need to get educated yourself before you start being critical of others FOOL!!

• only 42 years?  he should have received the death penalty

• Judging, People are people. We  judge. Thats what we do. And  with judging , we kill. Not actually, because we  know, we can  think  about how wrong that would be. So  we  don't kill  ,  instead we  wish a persons death. What is the  difference?

• he is commenting on the "good behavior" system some prison terms have, where you get one day off your sentence for each "good" day you serve, ie, no disciplinary actions. and you know, even at 59 he can start a family.   this whole story is a tragic affair, and this child should be serving the rest of his life AND be chemically castrated.

• Well......Not my Jesus or my God!  You, my friend, will get yours!

• @Billl....SICK AHOLE!!!!!! That's what you wanted us to say thought, right!!  I hope you die in HELL!

• Well Duh to you Msesay!!  38 or 59....She 's dead!!!! Geeez!

• @noneofyourbusiness. Get your facts straight, this guy plead guilty to Megan's murder in exchange for the trial. Nobody else was involved. You have been watching too many movies. There was no conspiracy only a very sick POS that should have went off to Juilliard for college instead of spending the next 42 years of his life in a penitentiary. He is a very sick and dangerous criminal and I hope he is having fun with his "Boyfriends" in prison. @purrrettty4ever rape is not about whether someone is pretty or not. It's about control. Although there was nothing wrong with how Megan looked. She was pretty. Rapists can also sense a girl who has been victimized in the past. He may have also known from either her or the media about the Navy guy who attempted to assault her. The Navy guy just "got lucky" because he couldn't be tried for Megan. He however did get arrested on child pornography charges. When a woman or girl is sexually abused it is not uncommon for her to be abused again or to grow up and marry/date an abuser. The distance with Megan was that she did fight back against the Navy guy who abused her by going forward and prosecuting him. She was strong. That is probably why she was actually killed because he knew she was going to call the police on him.

• If he is put to death that is call the easy way out. Meaning he will not suffer for what he did. Think about it.

• This kid grew up in a nice home, nice neighborhood and great school. He still turned out this way. He had every priveledge afforded him. There was something seriously wrong with him. He even tried to con the police by pretending to give them his gum he was chewing for DNA testing. Instead he gave them someone else's. It's a scary thought that he was smart enough to attemp to fool a DNA test and would have gotten away with her murder if he had given them gum with male DNA on it instead of female. This makes me extremely fearful that when he gets out of prison he won't make that mistake a second time. He is the most dangerous killer out there.

• & i think he only got 42 years because they didn't know his motive... i think if they had evidence proving he was murdering her for a reason he's be on a death sentence .. idk

• you're a dumbass ... 17 +42  is not 38!!! it's 59, 

•  I agree.  Why do people say she was beautiful??  Because she is white?  Point blank, she may have  a beautiful personality  but that's all.  Let's not exaggerate!  She looks like someone who is looking for attention.  Very bazaar this happened just B4 she got a chance to testify against the Marine.  Maybe fate caught up with her and she played that "trap game" on someone who couldn' t  handle it.  I don' t know if  the boy is guilty or not but I still  can't understand what she was doing to get all these men to risk their freedom for her!  Please sell that to someone else.  Too many drop dead pretty girls out there!

•  Something rubs me wrong about this whole story.  I mean I'm sorry for what happened to her but it seems odd to me because she is not that attractive but  everyone is trying to "get" with her.  Some girls like to come  on and lure men and then cry rape  for attention.  Like with the marine.  Why was she alone  with her father' s friend.  Something is just not right.  Why did she tell her  friend this boy liked her.  Maybe she seduced him and then told him she was going to report him for rape as well and he lost it.  He had a lot to lose as well. 

• This setup is so obvious, i cant believe that everyone involved in solving this murder is so dumb and stupid. This young man  lost his life because he was a victim of circumstance.  His story is very believable because the marine needed a way out of this situation, and that was to set up the murder just the way Robert explained it happened.  The reason the masked man didnt shoot Robert is because then , there would be another person the police would have to look for, but if they kept him alive then the case would appear to be solved once they found out who the DNA belonged to.  Did anyone even think about who had the greater motive for wanting this young girl dead, if you think that this young man had a greater motive than the marine then you are all gullable.  Think about it, this was a pure setup.  to post this i have to leave my email address, i hope i dont get killed next for shining some real light on this case.

•  you should be ashamed of yourself for asking that question.

• That's what happens when whites hang around blacks. As much as everyone wants to say it is not about race, it most certainly was. All one has to do is look at the Department of Justice statistics on interracial crime and they will see that blacks are committing genocide against white people. I served in the Navy in the Virginia Beach-Norfolk area, and I can personally attest to that fact that most of the violent crime was blacks against whites. It is an undeniable fact. The best advice I can give to other white people is to avoid blacks as much as possible. Just by doing this you will greatly increase your life expectancy.

• bitch you should never kill a girl and she did not do nothing to you and you should die bitch die bitch and why did you kill her for and she was one of my friends and stay in jail bitch and never get out and you should die in helll ass hole and I love the family and meghan and

• HE SHOULD PUT TO DEATH AND SHE WAS A GOOD PERSON AND WHO IN THE FUCK WOULD DO THAT TO A NICE AND PRETTY GIRL AND I WAS FRIENDS WITH HER AND TALK TO HER AND JUST DIE JUST DIE BITCH AND GO TO FUCKING HELL DO YOU UNDER STAND ME BITCH STAY IN FUCKING JAIL OK AND YOU SHOULD BE DIE ASS HOLE AND YOU KILLED MY FRIEND WHO NEVER DID NOT DO NOTHING TO YOU FOR YOU TO KILL HER AND SHE IS A SMART GIRL AND I AM SORRY TO THE FAMILY FOR WHAT HAVING TO GO THROUGH WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH. I LOVE THE FAMILY AND MEGAN AND NEVER FORGET YOU MEGAN AND THE FAMILY AND I KNOW ITS HARD AND LOVE YALL.

• sorry but android is right these people need to be blocked they r being extremely disrespectful and offensive. screw free speech they r out of line!

• um hello? shut up! it doesnt matter he brutally murdered someone! she did not deserve to go that way... there was no excuse for what he did and he deserves alot worse than what he got.

• @ Wendy Very nicely said..completely agree

• Haha, I am 35 years old priscilla, I've been friends with people of Every color Ive managed to make it this far without being raped and murdered, actually Lucian Staniak, a serial rapist and Murderer was.... White, a russian, John Douglas, Also white, also a rapist/murder, BTK another sexual sadist,I could go on and on..... Damn when will these white girls start profiling violent sociopaths. I've got a better question for you Mrs Pricilla, when will ignorant rednecks pull their heads out of their arses

• This is what happens when you befriend black trash. Raped and murdered. When will white girls learn?

• I just watched this story on ID, me, I am not one to jump to conclusions either, but his story, and interview assured his guilt to me, not to mention the DNA evidence, I think all the people screaming for him to be tormented and raped are thinking wrong, his mental condition is such that he has no more grasp or control over his actions then a rabid dog does, but I do believe he should die, personality disorders such as the one this guy obviously has have a poor history of being treatable, you do not lock a rabid dog up no cure for it, you take it out and shoot it, bury it and be done, this guy can not be allowed to roam and victimize another. As for the person who asks if my kid did such a thing If I would ask that they be put down, yes, if I knew my kid did such a thing I would ask for the same result, I know it would hurt, and I would forever analyze my actions as to what brought my child to this point, but I can not risk other peoples children for the sake of my own

• He should have received the death penalty.

• He should have received the death penalty.

• Also @ Tommy Knockers. 'quiet professionals'. Practice being quiet if you are smart. From ODA 115.

• Tommy Knockers is retarded. Please refrain from comparing your Iraq tour to this situation. I have also been there and encountered the same scenario. Night and day. 4 times actually :) You sound like one of those people who claim to have killed innocent kids just to impress people back home to generate false sympathy or worse.... A medical retirement based on some over exaggerated PTSD claim. This guy deserves to be raped and beaten daily. He has robbed this girls parents of their lives as well. Kudos to the guy from Norfolk who will be waiting on him should he be released alive. This girl should be alive right now...but that's just my opinion.

• @john.........then what do you have to say about the ones who do NOT lie? it is NOT bred into them. . and do believe in the words and work ethics of folks like MLK, Booker T. Washington, Dr Margaret Walker. . do I really need to go on. . . . @big d...........I do believe that there is a pew open for you at the World Church of the Creator for you. that and or one at WBC. as well as any other slime ball churches that believe in racial seperation.

• due to his race and connected attorneys, he didn't get the death penalty. He'll be out in 20, doing more of the same--book it.

• God's Daughter When she was and infant, she rarely cried She couldn't speak, but she often tried She had a smile that resembled her mother's, Intelligent eye like her father's, who loved her. Her angelic hair, warm like a sunset, Was ritually brushed when she quietly slept. In her ears, which were pierced, were Amethyst stones, For the month she was born; they glimmered when shone. The birthmark on her chin was small and unique. Delightful dimples decorated her cheeks. Three faded freckles peppered her nose. "This little piggy," would wriggle her toes. She was a gift from the heavens that be, An answered prayer, from bended knees Her parents, devoted to raising her right, Were driven by love and God's guiding light. Every day was a gift; every moment a dream, The time that they shared; a pleasant routine. With nourishing meals and warm baby baths. Ticklish smiles that went from giggles to laughs. The tantrums she threw, when in a bad mood, Faces she made when she tasted new food. These are the memories worth more than gold, Like her first awkward step at two years old. And nights when her father would fall asleep with her, "You are my darling," is what he would whisper. These precious nights he held her so close, Squeezing so tight that they both made on pulse. On her first day of school, she cried in his arms He made a promise to keep her from harm. So on that same day he did not go home, But stayed there all day, so she wasn't alone. She could open his heart with just one glance, Later that night he taught her to dance. In junior high, she complained of her weight, He'd brush back her hair; and say she looked great. No longer a child she was making new friends, Finding new interests; following new trends Then the time that they shared, slowly decreased, It upset his soul, but he kept his peace. His daughter was changing, this he did know, From a young girl; to a woman she'd grow. He loved her so; she gave his life meaning, Giving him faith, hope joy and reason. One summer night she did not come home, And he could not be reached on her cellular phone. A knocked at the door, came with bad news, A body was found, lifeless and bruised. She was the victim of a violent assault. He fell to his knees hurt and distraught. After her funeral he no longer prayed, He was angry with God, he felt betrayed. The flame of his faith was slowly dying. He spent most of his time thinking and crying. An angel appeared in his thoughts while he slept, As they embraced, The both of them wept. The angel spoke softly, without moving her mouth, He heard in his heart, the words that came out "Sometimes The Lord, must sacrifice, One of his children to save many lives. And when this happens, there will be tears, There will be question, resulting from fear. When innocent blood is carelessly spilled, The world becomes safer, because evil's revealed. I was sent by The Lord, so I can explain, That he knows you hurt, he feels your pain. God too had a child, persecuted by evil, Who died on the cross, for the sins of all people. Your child is beside Him, in the heavens above Guarded by peace and eternal love." Dedicated to Meghan Landowski September 26, 1991-April 10, 2008

• If someone is innocent and on death row that means they WERE already proven guilty, by your logic you say they die too

• @ wtf. wheres justice when you need it. Catholic huh.? i guess you havent got to the part where god teaches forgiveness. and you wish for him to be raped then killed? i hope someone else is teaching your children the word of god and not you.

• @ john. black are bred to lie? so is bill clinton, jesse james hollywood, mel gibson and the billions of other white people half black? people lie. black, white, green, yellow, brown and clear PEOPLE lie !!

• its amazing to me that all you people that are soooo much against violence are wanting him to be raped murdered tortured and what ever else that has came out of your mouths. not once has anyone said i hope he gets the help he needs to re enter this world free from bars in 42 years so this dont happen again. all thats being said is ohh i hope he dont live near me. the fact is hes going to live near someone!! if you guys would stop worrying about killing this kid and focusing on the bigger problem which is his sickness maybe you guys would get somewhere. but no everyone wants to jump on the. "lets kill hiiim" bandwagon. if it was your son who killed someone because they werent mentally stable would your firat thought be to take him out in the back and shoot him stab him hang him w.e ? no it would be to get him the help he needs. i feel sorry for the girls family and what she had to go thew but she dont have to suffer anymore. whats done is done. shouldnt of happened but it did shes gone and killing him wont bring her back. time to grow up and and hope for this person to get better rather than kill someone! your not god. so dont judge him. its no ones place. but gods !!

• He should have received the death penalty.

• He should have gotten the death penalty. Hopefully he will die in prison. He came up with that stupid story about being forced to have sex with the girl. If that was true, why didn't he immediately call the police and report it. He didn't. Black will lie their ass off. They are bred to lie. It is in their blood, and they are violent. He should have gotten the death penalty. I am outraged that people who have posted here says he should have gotten life in prison. He should have been put to death immediately. He will come out of prison and commit more crimes as soon as he is released.

• The movie Green Mile comes to mind - barbeque, barbeque

• that dude finna get fucked everyday in there he probalby crying right now

• How in the hell does he only get 42 years for such a brutal violent crime? I sure hope robert gets on someone's bad side in prison and is dealt proper justice.

• I hung out with robert every monday for two hours. we were in the same orchestra. we ate dinner together and had inside jokes, everything. to make it worse, i had a crush on him. Now i see the truth and i'm angry, sad, and plain out confused. He's been proven guilty, but its so hard for me to believe, you know? And as much as i loved him, i believe he deserves justice: the death penalty. just saying this makes me cry! We must realize that both the victim's family AND the murderer's family need our support. I know that sounds horrible to some, "how can we support the parents of the murderer?!" Well, i'm sure as they held that little boy in their arms when he was a baby that they never planned this for his future. And meghan's family: i've lost my little sister, but not in this way. Its horrible! I'm so so so sorry.

• My condolences to the family of this beautiful young girl, and all her friends. I am sorry Robert Barnes is a psycho. Megan turned him down, repeatedly, he snapped and planned to attack her. He was vicious cause she was looking at him in amazement. My friend, my fiend. He should of got a life sentence, cause if he ever makes it out, he'll do it again. No remorse. No guilt.

• @ Tommyknockerz...If people admit to the crime or it is widely witnessed or the evidence is overtly unchallengeable then by your own reasoning the death penalty is both inarguable and just. I agree if there is ANY doubt it should not be applied. Moral reasoning for its exclusion is something of an absurdity given that morals are an invention of humanity. Even within myself (I frequently advocate for the timely death of those aberrant humans who choose to inflict pain, suffering and death on others for personal gain, sport, interest or financial gain)there is an aversion to capital punishment but I am able to admit this derives from social conditioning and romantic ideals...not natural impulse or pragmatic purpose. Imagine yourself having lost your family to murder, post rape and torture (REALLY imagine this) then having the opportunity to face those responsible...now imagine a loaded gun in your hands...be honest, they would die. Those innocents on death row you mention...look at their cases...for the vast majority the evidence is vague and/or political/personal agendas are at play...law and justice become intertwined and perverted. It is unwise to be broadly inclusive when individual instance is where justice (not law) prevails. Re comments by Bill Mancock; Eat shit you perverted little fuckhead...I agree with others that his abusive comment should be removed. It has most definitely crossed the line.

• i understand he became someones bitch 3 months after entering prison. he is no longer a man, he is now property of a cell boss. this bitch is pimped out 3 or 4 days a week. i wonder how he and his family like him being someones bitch and constantly being ass-raped? he is getting what he diserves, repeatedly!!! ha ha

• I live in Norfolk, VA & I'll be waiting for this dude when he gets out. Don't worry about it.

• Maybe the family and the DA settled for just 42 years because they were concerned that black jurors would vote to acquit? There was community support for the killer.

• This is a sad case. I am so sorry to Meghans' family. I seen this episode on 48 hours on Discovery. Please try not to make this a race issue. This was a crazy person doing a crazy thing. I am black, and a nurse. I see crazy people of all races coming in to the ER because of doing crazy things all the time. Barnes does deserve death, but not due to his color. The police tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. They didnt think that he would switch the gum!!! Thats a psycho move, simple as that. This may not be the place for this, but we ALL have to come together as a nation to be able to move on as a nation. As a whole, we are divided. Even on something as horrible as this (which we all believe is horrible), we still must divide ourselves. Just so that the people on here know, only niggers care if you call them niggers. So to the majority of the educated, it means nothing. It only means that we continue to let other nations advance ahead of US. One thing that terrorist have is that they--NO MATTER WHAT-- stick together. Just saying.

• I've got dandy idea for those who rape and murder those young victims; 1rst offense- stick them in prison for maybe 5-10 years......2nd offense- take the guilty party and blow away the legs first, arms second then the privates third and then put a bullet in the head last. But only shoot one limb per day so the idiot will suffer the pain that the victim suffered! No appeals alowed after the second offense

• @Daveeta: there is dna. how about reading it before you think you know it all...Perspective law student doesnt mean shit

• Did you hear this guy's alibi? It was the most ridiculous thing I've EVER heard. He claimed a guy just came into the house with a gun, told him to beat Meghan up and rape her. Then the gunman stabbed her, gave him the knife and he left. Even Stevie Wonder could see through that BS!

• I know, right, Leah? Robert wasn't even a smart sociopath. He should have at least gotten a man to chew that gum first.

• This is not about black or white issue or about the age of either person involved but about a heinous killing of another person with forethought and malice. Crimes like this deserve public/televised hanging/firing squad to serve as ultimate punishment and as a serious deterrent of others who even think about killing.

• There should definitely be an option for report offensive posts. I am so disgusted at some of these comments that I stopped reading. How people can make such inappropriate comments about something like this is beyond awful.

• I have to ask what rape he got away with? Lets be honest he was pretty good at covering his tracks it took the police a while and without getting a few tips they may not have found him that is scary. So have they even looked into his previous activities to see if he has raped or murdered anyone else. He seemed to do a horrible crime and from the pictures he had to be covered head to toe in blood unless he cleaned up or worn protective clothing so what crimes has he done and got away with? As for the 42 years in prison maybe if their is justice he will not see very many years at all. I hate to say this but being raped in prison is still not as horrible as what he did to that girl, she was already getting ready to testify agaist a man for touching her then she had to suffer threw rape I pray that this boy never see freedom because if he does he will rape and kill again!!!!!!!!!! I have no question in my mind he committed this crime and he then went back to his life like it was nothing. Then when he feared he might get caught he comes off with a story that someone made him rape her and kill her instead of setting her free and them both attacking the so called mask man. So do they really think he will stop never .

• Tommy, punishment for the murderer is never about "bringing the victim back to life"...it's about protecting society.

• Well there is NO PAROLE in Virginia so he will do every single day. and there IS NOT any good time credit given. So, he better just order handsoap its going to be alot easier than picking up the dropped soap (lol and lmao)

• Fuck Robert Barnes for this murder.This was a very foolish and jealous attack.Nobody should be killed for not liking anybody.But this should teach everybody a lesson about trusting your "FRIENDS".Robert should have lethal injection for doing this to this very beautiful girl.

• to anyone who is saying that the death penalty is wrong..I'm not really sure if I agree or disagree, because there's a part of me that feels anyone who can do something so violent like that to someone entirely deserves to feel the same kind of pain...but then again I do think anyone who takes a life wether it be a a random citizen or a just the judge and jury who sentences a person to death is a murderer in thier own way as well. AND on top of that I also want to say I THINK ROBERT BARNES IS 100% a horrible person, and even if he did have some sort of emotional problem or concern, he still killed an innocent girl. I'm sure he still knew what right and wrong was...and he made the wrong choice.

• Tommy, Just wanted to say I did read your entire post(s) and am glad to see I'm not the only person who disagrees with the death penalty for that very reason. As for all of the derogatory remarks made about the boy who was convicted of this crime, you should be thinking and praying for his family at this time, along with her family. I am sure that they too are grieving for the loss of their son. They will also be able to read all of your posts, and even though he committed this crime, it is not necessary for you to write what you hope happens to him, or what you would like to do to him. Don't you all think that all the people involved in this tragedy have been hurt enough? What if it was your father, brother, son, cousin, uncle, etc. would you want people posting such filth about them?

• So right I am watching this story right now on ID and wow I really feel for this family, I'm a girl and I think this guy got of easy and its to bad because he is going to be out and around other people. Robert Barnes may you burn in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• After reading some of these posts, this confirms my opinion that NO race has a monopoly on ignorance, stupidity, and racism. 1. White people using the "N" word because the perpetrator was black and the victim was white. 2. Black people trying to minimize the cowardly brutality of the crime and saying that he should receive mental counseling. 3. White people quoting crime statistics to demonize all black people as being violent. 4. White people saying that interracial dating justifies the death penalty. Do you people (white and black) actually realize how stupid and ignorant you sound by interjecting race into this horrible crime? You racists (white and black alike) sound like complete fools. Unfortunately, whites rape and kill other whites every day in this country and blacks do the same thing to one another. Leave race out of this issue!!! When will

• Brandie - I agree with you 100%. Race is of NO consequence regarding this cowardly and horrific act. Any man who attacks a woman is nothing but a COWARD - PERIOD!!! I would have given him the death penalty even if he was orange with pink and yellow pokadots. It's very sad that 17 year old kids today (who don't even know what life is) feel the need to rape and kill. Meghan was under NO obligation to date this monster and he should have respected her right to say "No". Many girls have said "No" to me and I never thought about harming them in any way - but then again, I don't have a animalistic mentality like this monster.

• This guy is a complete monster who needs to be executed - forget about the 42 years. It makes no difference what his motive was for taking her life because the crime was no less horrific regardless of his motive. Sounds like she was not interested in him as a boyfriend and he couldn't deal with rejection. My sympathy goes out to the victim's family.

• This post is for "JOHN" OK, this is going to be my LAST post. I'm sure anyone whose read this is probably thinking, "it's about damn time"...lol. I guess I was just bored this evening. JOHN, I don't normally get personal when I write these and I won't put you anywhere close to the same category as "Bill Mancock" or "Jesus Christ" but I would say that you're an idiot. Before I get into my main point, I'd like to address some other aspects of your posts. I saw at least 4 different comments you posted and you have a VERY hard time completing any sort of coherent sentence. It's obvious you are unable to grasp the English language or its' usage in any manner. I won't use all the examples that I could find in your ramblings because there are just too many and I won't take more space than I already have. I did notice one other thing. You said, in reference as to why Robert Barnes committed this horrific crime. You state it was because she turned him down and that wasn't a good reason. You stated, "I have been turned down almost 90% of the time." Out of all the things you've said here, THAT is probably the most accurate. Personally, I would guess that it's at least 95% of the time, but whatever. I would also guess that is because women.....that's assuming you are heterosexual, find you to be an idiot and rather strange. Like I said, I don't normally get personal in my comments, but then again, I don't appreciate people saying that if I don't agree with someone's dumb a$$ opinions that I should be killed with the murderers themselves. I guess I take things like that personally. You believe that anyone who doesn't agree with you should be put to death with the criminals?? Wow, you really are an idiot. Maybe people with an IQ as low as yours should be put to death too. Seriously, anyone who doesn't believe me, check out the comments that "JOHN" has left. As I said, he can't seem to put together even one coherent sentence. Reading his comments are like reading the practice sentences of a 1st grader. You can understand them but just barely. This is America and because of men and women like myself, we have the right to our opinions and we have the right to voice those opinions. We have freedom of speech. We have the freedom of expression. I fought for those rights and I even fought for YOUR rights. You have the right to voice your opinions and you have the right to feel the way you do about me. I respect that. I believe you have every right in the world to feel like I should be put to death for my opinions.....no matter how ignorant, unintelligent and WRONG those opinions are. You really are an idiot. I do find it funny though, how people believe that their opinions are the only correct opinions and how people believe that anyone that doesn't agree with them are, in some way, inferior to themselves. All this aside, I actually do agree with you on one aspect. I agree that the individuals using "Jesus Christ" and "Bill Mancock" are sorry a$$ mother f*****s. Other than that though, I think you're an idiot. As I said in one of my other comments, I spent 5 years in 82nd Airborne Division and the last 2 years attached to 7th Special Forces Group. I fought in Iraq and I believe in free speech. I believe that John has ever right to be an idiot and I'd even fight, kill and and/or die to ensure his right to be an idiot. Here in America we have Freedom of Speech as well as Freedom of Expression. You have the right to your feelings and you have the right to voice those opinions. It's funny though, I fought and was ready to die so you could keep those rights and yet, you'd like to line me up with criminals on death row because I don't agree with your feelings about the death penalty. Maybe you should read my second post about the death penalty. I can't imagine you will so I'll put one part here. There have been at least 125 people released from death row because they've been proven to be innocent. There have also been many people found innocent AFTER being killed on death row. It's my opinion that even ONE innocent person killed on death row is too many. If anyone other than people who are 110% guilty then they shouldn't be on death row. When I say "110% guilty" I mean either they admit it WITHOUT police coercion, in front of a judge, the media, God and everyone or they were caught red handed with the gun in their hand and his DNA all over the place or there were numerous eye witnesses of the SAME RACE as the perpetrator and things such as this. There can be NO WAY anyone else could have committed the crime for me to agree the death penalty should be used. Let's say, because you, "you" meaning "JOHN", did something stupid, you were arrested, put on trial for murder, found guilty and sentenced to death BUT you were actually innocent. Would you still believe in the death penalty? If you would give your life to keep the death penalty then I guess you can believe whatever you choose but if you're not willing to die for it, you shouldn't be a proponent of the death penalty. Like I said, one innocent person being put to death is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!! If you can't guarantee that not one innocent person will be put to death then there is no way I will ever be a proponent of the death penalty. OK, I'm finished babbling. I've written a full length novel here and I'm sure nobody is going to read it anyway, but I was bored. John, I agree with you about the sick a$$ idiots who posted here but that's the only thing here we agree on. You think people who aren't as stupid as you should be put to death. You think you're the only enlightened individual here and I think I've proven that NOT to be the case. Anyone who reads your comments, or TRIES to read that grammatical nightmare, will easily understand what I'm talking about. I KNOW that MOST of what I said will be VERY unpopular but people WILL agree with my opinions of your stupidity so you can say what you want about me, I've already proven my point. I also feel you have the right to hate me, to disagree with me, to argue with me and all WITHOUT being killed. Imagine that, disagreeing with someone and NOT being killed. Think about what you've said and maybe even read my comments. You might actually find something that makes sense to you.......or should I 'dumb it down' for you? Oh well, I have my opinions on this situation and unless someone comes to me with some intelligent argument I will continue to feel this way. If anyone has actually read through all of my inane babbling, I commend you and hope you found it worth the time it took to read it...lol.

• OK, I've posted twice so far and I'm not done yet. I guess I should have just written a book....lol. I just feel strongly about this case and all of the cases like this against children. Not only do I disagree with the people here who believe he should be put to death, I don't believe this child should even be in prison for the rest of his life. Yea that's right, I said it. I realize that most everyone here is going to hate me for my opinion and I can just imagine what your comments will be. Let me explain. If a 50 year old man had committed the same crime and was sentenced to life, that would only be about 20 to 30 years. If a 15 year old is sentenced to life, then that's about 55 to 65 years. That's not fair. Sentencing a child to life is A LOT different than sentencing an adult to life. I just don't believe that we(society) should take a child's life away. We are literally, throwing our children away. We put them in prison for life and another life is gone. They may not be dead but they may as well be. A life in prison is a life thrown away. I realize that this child raped and killed another child and he DOES deserve to be punished for that but not with the rest of his life. I also understand that this young girl will never come home and that IS a tragedy but is putting another child in prison for the rest of his life going to fix that? Hell no. It just adds to the tragedy. I admit, if I were in the shoes of those parents, having my child murdered, I would want the little bastard dead. I admit that. I just think that's exactly why sentencing should be put in the hands of a neutral party, someone who isn't close to the case. Those parents are going to suffer whether the killer spends the rest of his life in prison or not. I just don't understand how we realize that a child is too immature to vote, to drink, to drive, to join the military, to work a full time job and MANY other things, but yet we hold them responsible for crimes as if they were adults. How the hell do we justify that? I just think that we are contradicting ourselves. How can a child be a child one day and tried as an adult the next day? I just can't wrap my mind around this whole philosophy. Either they are children or they're not. Let's say that the child won the case and was found "not guilty", does that mean he can leave the court room, go down town to a bar and order a shot of tequila? We just said he was an adult. The court said he was an adult. Society said he was an adult. The minute they tried that child as an adult, they acknowledged he was an adult so if he's going to have the responsibility of an adult then he should reap the benefits of an adult too, right?!?!?! I guess I just don't get how we can justify this. It's a serious contradiction and I don't agree with it. We are a civilized, intelligent society. If we can't think of a better way than to throw our young offenders in prison for the rest of their lives, we have some serious issues. If that's the case maybe we're not as "civilized" as we claim to be. If someone has any facts or intelligent arguments to my comments, I'd like to see them. I don't want to see a bunch of ignorant, rude or just 'arguing for the sake of arguing' comments. Like I said, if there are any intelligent arguments to my opinions, let me see 'em. I have no problem with healthy, intelligent debate and if it's a compelling argument, I may even be persuaded to change my opinions. I'm not hard headed or too stubborn to change my mind if I hear an intelligent argument. I've welcomed 'healthy' debate in my other posts, I have no problem with it.

• I've already posted once and now I'm going to address the comments about the death penalty. Wow, I'm going to piss off EVERYBODY here....lol. I'm sorry. Let me explain why I feel the way I do. I will get into my reasons for believing the death penalty is wrong, but first I'll say this one thing. THERE HAS BEEN 125 PEOPLE RELEASED FROM DEATH ROW AFTER BEING PROVEN INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!! That being said, can you imagine how many INNOCENT people have been put to death????? That would make the United States government the most horrific and notorious serial killer in history. To me, that says that there are innocent people being put to death and that means IT'S WRONG. I don't care if even one innocent person is put to death, that's one too many. If there is ANY CHANCE of an innocent person being put to death, we MUST NOT do it. I'm sorry, but if you can't be certain that 100% of the people put to death are truly guilty then you have to abolish the death penalty. If you kill someone and later find they were innocent, there is no "I'm sorry" that is going to make up for that. What are we(society) going to say, "woopsy, I guess we screwed up"? That just ain't gonna cut it. Also, the people responsible for carrying out the death penalty will have to live with that for the rest of their lives. I spent 5 years in 82nd Airborne Division. I fought in Iraq and even that worries the hell out of me. When the day comes for me to stand before God and he asks me, "why did you kill one of my children?" and "what gave you the right to take away the most precious gift that I have to give?" What will I say? Will "it was my job" be enough to justify killing people? I just don't know. I'm not saying that killing in combat is wrong nor am I saying that killing convicted murderers is wrong. I'm just saying that I DON'T KNOW. One thing though, I believe that IF the death penalty isn't wrong then I believe that the only time it should be used is when there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT as to the individuals guilt. That being said, I DEFINITELY believe that killing a child is wrong and I believe that because of the same reasons as I stated for sentencing a child to prison for life is wrong. I just think that we can't hold a child to the same standards as we hold adults to. It's wrong. Children don't have the maturity to make the right choices all the time. Hell, their brains aren't even fully matured until they are in their early to mid 20's so aside from the moral reasons, there are actually biological reasons they can't be held to the same standards. Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that it should be the same as it used to be. I don't believe they should just be set free because they're children or even set free when they're 21. I believe that they should be given IN DEPTH psychiatric therapy and I believe they should be given lengthy sentences, just not life or death. I believe that a child should be given the opportunity to have at least some life before they die. I just believe that the killing of an individual is truly tragic but it just cannot be undone no matter how long the offender is imprisoned or even if the offender is put to death. I realize that I am probably in the minority here and maybe the only person that feels this way. Luckily we're in America and I have the right to my opinion and I even have the right to voice my opinion. I have these rights because of the men who fought for those rights. As I mentioned, I happen to be one of those men who fought for those rights. I know many of you aren't going to agree with me....in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if NONE of you agree with me...lol. Even though I may not agree with what you say, I will fight to the death for your right to say it. OK, now I'm getting off the subject so it's time to 'shut up'....lol. I just wanted to voice my opinion and I know it's going to be an unpopular one. If anyone has any intelligent, compelling and factual arguments, please let me see them. I'm not too hard headed or too stubborn to listen to intelligent arguments. In fact, I may even be persuaded to change my mind....probably not, but there's a chance. Seriously though, I may be persuaded to change my mind, if not on every aspect, possibly some of them. I respect the opinions of other people and I hope you respect mine. Like I said, I'd like to see intelligent arguments but any of the rude, vulgar or out and out stupid comments like those made by "Bill Mancock", "Jesus Christ", "ImHard" and "God" you can keep them to yourselves. In fact, the comments made by those worthless, sorry a$$, pieces of s**t are just sick, retarded, psychotic and these people are looking for attention and looking to piss people off. They are also, in my opinion, quite possibly only 1 or 2 different people using different names. Either way, regardless of the number of people they actually are, if you were to add their IQ's together, they would still be in the "mentally challenged" level.

• As for "Bill Mancock" and the a-hole using the name "Jesus" which is both disgusting and blasphemous, are worthless pieces of s**t. They are sorry a$$, 12yr old punks trying to piss people off. Personally, I would love to snatch hold of their throats and choke them within an inch of their lives, let them breathe and then do it again. I would like them to see what it's like to have your life flash before your eyes and then we'd see if they still think this is so damn funny. People like this make me sick. They are a couple of a-holes that think making stupid a$$ comments is funny or cool. They don't realize that karma is a b***h!!! If this happens in their family, they may not be so quick to make comments like this. At the very least their parents need to put them over their knee and paddle the hell out of 'em. Little punk a$$ a-holes.

• And to those of you who want to make excuses for this Robert Barnes, would you allow him around YOUR daughter, even if he had been "rehabilitated"?

• I've seen so many comments on here about race. Are you people retarded?! It doesn't matter what race either party was! Is she somehow LESS of a victim, because she's white and he's black? Come on people, this is how we perpetuate these ridiculous ideas in future generations. I have BOTH white and black family members, I see no difference in the importance of their lives. Color is not the issue. The problem here, is how our justice system rates the "severity" of a crime. 42 years?! So he can get his roof, clothes, showers, 3 squares and a cot? FOR FREE? Fuck that noise. I should get to vote where my tax dollars go, and not to support a class of individuals who have nothing of value to contribute to my world.

• Well Sangelia you certainly gave them an option. I wasn't feeding the troll, besides a troll would have just typed it out. I believe he or she ment what they said. I was merely giving them food for thought it could be said that race aside from the people I named "lust" and "revenge" even of their own delusions could be said to be the cause of their crimes.

• Wow, i came to this stream when i saw that comment. I was going to let her rip about racism, them i read most of the posts above. WOW can't believe what i was seeing. Blacks yelling racism. and whites yelling murder! I'm glad to see Illusions and Sangelia already commented. I'm not going to go there.

• iLLusionS......please dont feed the troll. . most likely he or she would have something to say that those you mentioned most likely fall under a certain set of laws.

• Oh wow Polly. So let me ask you this? What is at the core of well lets say,Ed Gein, Charles Manson,David Berkowitz, John Wayne Gacy, to name a few. Please enlighten me.

• I'm horrified at this evil human. I just watched an ID channel show about this piece of crap (and more important - the beautiful young victim). I'm not an easy crying guy, but this made me weep. I know she was a teenager, but I can only hope that prison justice comes back to that guy like what happens to child-killers. 16 is still a child, so much life she won't get to experience.

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