Carina Schlesinger, Ex-Model, Shot Boyfriend Daniel Cresci, Then Herself

• curiosity killed the cat. Stop being curious. This was someones life not a question of 'why' or 'how?'.

• hi i knew her too. i don't think there was anything on line but i do the crescis did have one. That one you have probably seen already

• actually you are wrong. Also, didn't anyone tell you not to be guessing up anyones opinions?

• shut up. You don't know what the hell happened here. So shut up. None of you know the truth and there is obviously a reason why. Yes she did kill someone so she is a murderer.

• I know this comment is from a year ago but seriously? This is peoples lives you are talking about. It isn't just some story you can always be 'updated' on, especially if you were never involved. This was obviously a case where so many people were emotionally scared. How could you even say that?

• hey stop talking about about ur lives.. i mean people were hurt here! what happened to respet the dead...she was obviously emotionlyhurt so its not her fault... respect the dead guys

• EVERYONE SHUT UP! whoever hurt her emotionly destroyed her!!! do all u people know how ccold hearted you are? she was destroyed and this affected everyone around her! god this article has un real stuf in it and it was so hard for the people who loved them both... SO HAVE SOME SIMPATHY AND SHUT UP AND LEAVE IT ALONE

• We took in a little rescue back in 2009; we already had a Lab and a little 10-pound Poodle (Lab wanabe). Like many rescues, our little guy had lots of issues and demons; one of them was aggression toward the Lab. This 15-pound tough as nails street pup from Newark was attacking our 110-pound Lab. The Poodle (Lab wanabe) is the sole female in this pack and had no problem putting our rescue in his place when he attacked our Lab. The problem was that our Lab would not put our rescue in his place. He is a typical goofy, fun loving, playful loving dog. The problem was getting worse and he was drawing blood. We were preparing to leave for Florida and knew two things-1) We did not want to give up on the little guy who had already suffered abuse and 2) We could not let this behavior continue. My girlfriend found Carina's dog training school and off we went for our interview and evaluation with Carina. We signed up with her and felt very confident that she could help us. We knew of her former career as a model and the attempted rape. Thanks to the internet, we all have the ability to "check out" whom we hire. I liked her from day one, she was tough and firm yet her love for all the dogs was evident. Dan was genuinely charming, no airs about him. He was sweet and kind. For the next six weeks, we trotted our two guys off to "Miss Carina's" for a day of learning. They both looked forward to going there every day. We became friendly with Carina and Dan. She admired the leash I made for my Lab so I made her one and some others. Carina trained us as well; she went beyond our expectations as a trainer. As the days turned in to weeks we saw vast improvement in our little rescue's behavior not just the respect he learned to give our Lab but he had a newfound pride in himself, he developed self-assuredness. He began to hold his head high. It was a day of mixed emotions on our graduation day; we would be off for Florida with our happy pack but we were also not going to see Carina and Dan each day. We had all looked forward to going there every day. After several months of settling in and unpacking, I sent Carina an email with some photos of our dogs playing together in our new backyard. We did not hear back and we just chalked it up to her busy workload. They both put in such long days and had to be physically exhausted at the end of each day. I just returned to New Jersey Monday for a brief visit. Yesterday I decided to pop in on Carina and Dan to say hi. When I pulled in, I got an eerie feeling. The building was gone; all I saw were wood chips where it once stood. I could see straight through to the field and pens where our dogs would train and play with Carina. I searched the internet hoping that they relocated but my worst fears were realized when I saw all of the headlines. This is just an unimaginable shock. I have learned in my life that many people will come in and out of my world and some will leave a mark that will stay with me forever. Although not close friends of these two extraordinary people, they touched my life and that mark will always be there. Whatever happened to Carina in the events leading up to this tragedy we may never know and it is NOT FOR ANYONE to judge. It is tragic that these two beautiful people are dead but the mark they left and the memories I have of both of them will never die. I am grateful to have known them. To the families of Carina and Dan I offer my deepest condolences for your loss. May they rest in peace. Colleen

• Thanks EFox, I would definitely be there for any services. Please let me know. I can leave my email if that would help. I did know her during her "glamour" days but I don't think that was ever the real her. She did it because she was a tall blond beauty and everyone said "You should be a model!" But she never really liked being stared at and photographed and never pushed it as hard as she could have. I think the Carina in muddy sweat pants who loved to play with her dogs was closer to the real her. I wish I got to know and spend time with that Carina. We became friends, of course I wanted it to be more than that. She never discouraged me, but I had my own problems in those days and I didn't press it as hard as I could have, one of my biggest regrets. I kind of thought she was out of my league anyway. When I heard she was marrying a rich guy, I figured I had lost and let it go. Then the years went by. I missed her but I was OK thinking she was happy, living her life. Then I heard the horrible news. It still seems like a nightmare. I wish I had kept track of her. In 2008 as the marriage was breaking up and she was moving back to Jersey, I imagine finding her, saying "Hey, remember me?" I keep thinking I could have done or said something to help her, to prevent what happened, and I will always feel guilty about that.

• Theodore, I have known Carina for the last year. She was training our dog and we grown close to each other. I don`t remember her glamorous days but for me she was the beauty even in the muddy sweatpans she wore all the time... Me and my husband were seeing her often and even she was little wild and crazy in her behavior, she was totally sweet, funny person and we liked her so much. I have got a contact for the detective from Holmdel department who is dealing with the case and I will let you know if there is any memorial service, burial coming... She didn`t share any problems with me, even I was offering help to her and I SO wish she would that we could help her somehow...

• She was a beautiful woman. To me it sounds like the stress of everything that was going on just made her fall apart. She couldn't handle the change in her lifestyle.I imagine she killed him but didn't admit it to herself. She probably hid the body in her house,or just actually walked around it like it wasn't there. Maybe she just sat there and stared at it wondering where her life had gone so wrong. This seems like such a desperate act. Also, to respond to Al,age has nothing to do with this case. Age difference in a relationship doesnt matter if it is within a certain limit. I think if someone is 60 or 65 and with a 20 or 30 yr old,that is wrong. I am 31 and my husband is 47 and we have a 3 yr old son together. We are happy and our relationship works. He is not rich. He is handsome to me,but not a trophy husband. I do not consider myself his trophy wife either.

• I'm one of those people who knew Carina in the past who still cared about her. I knew her from 1997-2000 and lost touch with her about a year before she met Mr. Schlesinger. I knew nothing about what she's been going thru for the last few years. I have been absolutely sick reading these articles and finding out what happened to my old friend Carina, the accumulation of problems and disappointments, the descent into despair and depression, and everything that led to the horrible events of the last few days of her life. It seems to me that until Mr. Cresci was killed, there was nothing in her life that couldn't have been dealt with. She could have come out the other side of all of this. There were many people who would have been there for her - financially, emotionally, etc. - if she had only reached out and asked. I only wish to God that she had, then maybe none of these terrible events would have happened, and she would still be with us. One more thing. I've read a few comments about her looks from the photos in the articles. I never saw a picture of her that captured how beautiful she was in person. When she walked into a room and you saw that face and the sparkle in her eyes, it just took your breath away. And inside was this funny, bright, sweet, crazy, wonderful girl. That's the Carina I want to remember, that I will remember, for the rest of my life. I've been searching for an obituary that mentions any memorial services for her and haven't found anything. If anyone knows something, please post it here. Thanks.

• Um....not to be funny, but how is this not murder again?

• Her age is irrelevant here. As are some of the other side issues. Yes, she was emotionally troubled and obviously under intense pressure. My condolences to both families. This isn't "murder," its a tragedy. Many people she knew from the past still cared deeply for her. I wonder about motive and some of the reported facts. The divorce wasn't over. Suppose Daniel walked in on a creditor who then staged the end result. I hope the police conduct a thorough forensic investigation. From elsewhere: 1) When I first heard, I hoped it wasn't true. Then I read the description (Carina, Danish, 5'10', 36) and saw the pictures and knew it was. I spent hundreds of nights at (gogoclubs) with "Tyler" when she was dancing, and I guess like others, I fell in love with her too. She's been gone a long time, but I liked to think that she was out there somewhere, happy, living her life. I will always feel sad knowing what happened to her and wondering how did a girl with so much to offer – beauty, intelligence, charisma – end up in such a dark, unhappy place. Her story should not have turned out that way. 2) Tyler was arguably the most beautiful dancer to have ever worked at (gogoclubs). She was a very special person who apparently never found her path. We never forgot her. Ironic, all the time we thought she was out of the country she was nearby. She'll live on in our hearts forever.

• @ Sandy S. I am scary. NO YOU ARE!!! You did not know what NAMBLA is? And you vote? ABC, NBC & CBS never shows the NAMBLA people at a gay pride parade or people like them. they just show the tamed down stuff. They EDIT. They try to influence you by showing a half truth. They succeed so well. Norms matter. My spouse is not even Christian. so don't go saying I want to go back to the 50s & all that rotgut. I am sure that the NAMBLA people have norms. !!Norms matter!!

• sounds like she dug herself into a HUGE hole-too sad

• Thanks for the update, Pete.

• Trophy Wife. If it is true, I am not shocked. People are so disposable, especially women. She got old, got to trade her in. Just cuz some don't do this does not mean that it doesn't happen.

• Sandy S You said there is no norm. Obviously your norm is different than NAMBLA's norm. And obviously your norm is different in a good way. You weren't faking outrage were you? Norms do matter. There can be several different Norms such as Amish, Hindu, so called mainstream America. So I wouldn't say there is one right answer. But you said there was no norm, when obviously there is. I am so proud that the media censors news for you about parades & such so that you can be blissfully ignorant. Honest question. Are polygamy and gay marriage the same?

• Al, I re-read your post and dude, you are out to lunch. Your Scary (NAMBLA)"The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a New York City and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization in the United States that advocates the liberalization of laws against sexual relations between adult and minor males -" Does your wife know that you go around posting crap like this? What does this even have to do with the topic and what PERV.? ((((( Do not respond back to me!))))

• Thanks Al, I feel much better that you explained life to me and what I was doing wrong. Next time I will run it by you first. Thanks buddy!

• There's Lies, Damn Lies .... and Statistics

• Sandy, Stats tell us about a group. I would bet on group statistics. I would not bet on an instance such as this marriage. It would be foolish. You seemed determined to get yourself wound up in a tizzy. There are always norms. There are many groups and many norms. There are cultural norms & subcultural norms. If there was one norm, then discussion of subcultures would be meaningless. Am I saying Lisa is wrong. I never did. My own marriage falls outside the "norm". But you are wrong, some norms do matter. If not why is there a perv watch on this website. QED. You are not a member of NAMBLA are you Sandie? http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/lifestyle/07/15/09/love-not-enough-last-marriage-study This is just to show you a very few of the guts of a study. I found it while looking for the above link., It was somewhat interesting. Be warned it talks about variables (OMG that is as bad a variance)& maybe interactions (too hard!). Let's just stick to tizzy talk. Stats are to be treated with awe, disdain & ignorance so the politicians & sales people can fool us again. www.virginia.edu/sociology/.../Wilcox%20Nock%20marriage.pdf

• Okay shannie, I will tell Lisa about your concerns for her and her husbands age difference. Here is the difinition(a variation that deviates from the standard or norm.)There is no norm in todays world and if there is would you explain it to all of us? It doesn't matter how old this woman was she is absolutely beautiful. Pete you will let us know why she killed herself and her B/F?

• My "guess" was that he was going to dump her because of here age. She couldn't deal with it so she killed him. The 3 & 9 years things was based on psychology studies. These studies will be done whether I like it or you like it. Just reporting. When you deal with studies, thing statistics like percentages, average & variance come up. It is way of making sense of the data. Your particular case, I wish you well. But why are so defensive? My wife is 5 years older. No problem there, but I do pay attention to these studies. As far as bringing up the age difference, I know how many guys are (not all).

• Her original story to the Cresci family was that Daniel Cresci had left the house temporarily to hock her things to raise cash. It sounds like she was in an extremely precarious financial state and that was affecting her state of mind. She probably thought that he was going to leave her. The family's remarks don't provide any sense of a lasting relationship. "Meanwhile, Cresci's father, Victor, told The New York Post that 36-year-old Schlesinger had been mentally unstable and despite the family's warnings, Cresci chose to pursue with the relation and was staying with her since he wanted to help her." http://www.entertainmentandshowbiz.com/carina-schlesinger-the-boyfriend-might-have-been-dead-for-days-authorities-suspect-2010030739865 "She was going through a divorce. She and her husband owned a home on Long Island, and the bank just foreclosed on it. Victor Cresci said she was on antidepressants and mood stabilizers. His son was paying Schlesinger's bills, representing her in a civil case against a competing dog school in Freehold. (Schlesigner operated a dog school from her home.)" http://www.app.com/article/20100306/NEWS05/3060316/1004/NEWS01&source=rss

• Uhm...I don't know what the conversation is about now, but I don't think it has anything to do with the story. Then again, what else is new. I still think there had to have been some kind of motive. Maybe one of them was having an affair. Or something was going on under the surface. I just don't feel like she did it for the hell of it.

• What the hell are Standard Deviations? I don't get it but for what it's worth, I don't think age differences matter in relationships. It's the compatibility and maturity level of the two people involved.

• Uh hello Sandy S? Standard Deviations! Your friends husband should have been wrote off by now!

• Al, you seem like a nice guy and did your math, but your totals don't add up. My husband is not jet rich and we are 19 years apart we have been together 15 years and are happy. My girlfriend is 11 years older than her husband and they have been together 22 years. Sometimes 2+2 doesn't always = 4.

• Thanks Al for clearing that up. So all you have to do is some math and crime solved, thanks,brilliant.

• So you're saying she just decided to kill him and herself for the hell of it? Call me crazy, but I find that a little hard to believe. I think there had to have been a motive. But what do I know?

• Whatever the reason let's just call it what it is she's a murderer. I notice with stories like these people like to find a "deeper meaning" as in her mental state etc. When other stories occur like this, it just is what it is people call it savage, sling stereotypes etc no one ever looks for the "deeper meaning".

• She was 7 years older. Most wives are 3 years younger. that is a 10 year swing. How many standard deviations is that for the norm? 2? 3? I it is 3 standard deviations, the odds are <3% that this relationship would survive? Just looking at it from a psychological /statistical view point. Think it doesn't matter? My spouse who is older, told me that they were my age. Wonder why? It even works for men, too. If I guy is more than 9 years older. It won't work most of the time. Unless they are like jet set rich.

• I'll update this as soon as I get anything, but I'm guessing she was just mentally unstable at the end.

• I am thinking she (Carina) took away any answers the families,or us (the public) Might have ever gotten.

• Agreed. I'd like to hear more details on this story. Keep us updated, Pete! Please and thank you.

• what a tragedy-curious to know the outcome, the "why" of it.

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