Phoebe Prince Suicide: Nine Teens Charged with Bullying 15-Year-Old to Death

Although it won't bring her back, I'm soooo happy these little shits won't completely get away with it!

Good! Now maybe these twerps can go on and learn the golden rule!Seems to me they were all insecure wonder how well they could have handled this merciless taunting?

Scheibel has also not allowed the release of an autopsy report until a toxiclogy report has been done (I'm guessing the public will probably never see this toxicology report.)

I am so sad for that little girl-I hope those little pukes are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Statutory rape charges? How come there's no mention of such goings on? No doubt these were a bunch of lowlifes to have pushed her to suicide, but were their claims that she was a slut justified?

Lets hope they can make the charges stick, and get guilty verdicts from the jury.

I agree, while it won't bring her back, its great to see that those who, for lack of better words, caused her death are being punished. There needs to be tougher laws on these kinds of things.

I feel so sorry for her family. They came here to give their children the American life, and this is what they got. RIP Phoebe.

Well I hope the rot in jail for a good long time, that is all I have to say about that.

Two statutory rape charges do not justify anyone calling her a slut. I am glad these teens are going to held accountable for there actions. Hopefully they'll take good long looks at the people they have choosen to be and redirect themselves

She was a pretty girl. The other girls were so ugly. So they killed her out of jealousy. The rapists should be castrated. The girls should not be allowed to reproduce. And the teachers and school board members should be fired amd charged as accomplices.

We knew about the sick harassment Phoebe went through day after day, but two statutory rape charges? That sweet little girl was living with that horror all that time in agony. We all love you little sweet Phoebe God bless you, you beautiful Angle

I want blood. I'm a busy man but if I can get around to it in my lifetime these little b . i \ t ! c @ h - e *s and young men will physically suffer for the rest of their lives. They'll get legal justice free of charge but when I serve them they'll know it and they will never forget it.

omg she cute.....when she turned 18 i would of married her and had kids with her 8)

@Russell are you some kind of MORON? what are you talking about? How does them terrorizing her have anything to do with her 'being a slut' ?
and wHY would it matter? Even if she was a slut- whose and slept with a few guys-or if she slept with only her boyfriend or with no one- that is HER business. Still doesn't excuse merciless taunting, harrassment and rape.
Get real. You sound like a ignorant judgemental freak who condones harrassment (or rape?) in 'mitigating circumstances ( if a girls wears a mini skir?) There is NO excuse to taunting and harrassing someone- Only ugly hearted, small minded people do that kind of thing.
Mpre than likely she got harrassed because she was new and different being from Ireland. Boys were interested, Girls were jealous and She was trying to fit in.

@Russell are you some kind of MORON? what are you talking about? How does them terrorizing her have anything to do with her 'being a slut' ?
and wHY would it matter? Even if she was a slut- whose and slept with a few guys-or if she slept with only her boyfriend or with no one- that is HER business. Still doesn't excuse merciless taunting, harrassment and rape.
Get real. You sound like a ignorant judgemental freak who condones harrassment (or rape?) in 'mitigating circumstances ( if a girls wears a mini skir?) There is NO excuse to taunting and harrassing someone- Only ugly hearted, small minded people do that kind of thing.
Mpre than likely she got harrassed because she was new and different being from Ireland. Boys were interested, Girls were jealous and She was trying to fit in.

burtle....you must be a brain dead moron to post something like that. you make up stories in your little pea brain that make no sense whatsoever. have we read about you lately having your way with animals? those stories sound like it could be you.

Pictures of the bullies are here...http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1243175
Unbelievable what they did to that poor girl. Karma's a bitch. Not the brightest or best looking bunch of bullies.

Russell -- I find your comment sexist and disgusting! re - did she deserve to be called a slut for sleeping with 2 guys. How come you aren't saying those guys deserved to be called sluts? You are of the same type as these abusers for saying such a shameful and sexist comment! I cannot believe people still think like you do.

IMO 2 guys does not make a slut...who knows if those stories are even true. guess we will have to wait and see what defence will be used for the 2 guys...I wonder if they can add more charges against them if they say they lied about having sex with her. they sure wouldn't be the first to try and make themselves look like bigger men through false boasting...who knows...*shrugs*

Yeah what's up w/the rape charges? If she had consenting sex then I disagree w/those charges. If she had intercourse w/two of her boyfriends that does not make her a slut and
is a completely irrelevant opinion. You sound as bad as her
tormentors making such an assanine remark. Justiced is being served, I am sure they don't find it quite so humorous
now.

They had better hand down the maximum sentence to these pieces of shit. Let them experience an 8x10 cell that contain some folks that will gleefully let them experience what living in constant fear is like.

Hell I got bullied in school until I beat the ever-loving shit out of my bully (a fond childhood memory) but these days bullies are even bigger pussies and gang up on one person from every angle.

A 15 year old is not leagally able to consent in most, if not all, states, hence the statutory rape charges. Both the 17 and 18 year old are considered legal adults, who allegedly had sex with a child, so yes, they deserve the charges.

As for being a slut, well, that's up to interpretation. But it is a moot point. She could have had sex with every boy in the school, and it does not give those little bitches the right to harass her the way they did.

I say kudos to the police who found a way to make those disgusting brats pay...let's hope the judge agrees and makes an example out of them.

I should'nt take your bait Judge. But I would like to point out something.
You are a waste of typing space.A afterthought. A bitter taste in someones mouth. The one people see coming and say "oh god it's _________fill in name here."

basterds dont worry people in about of a year . some nice big mofo in the joint. will show them a lilttle bullying send the to a usp and they will get what they have coming a good --- woopen and then you know whar comes next
from the D

they love jocks in prison ,send the too louisburg federal prison for the boys . i should say punks but they will be finding out real soon that there punks are the ladys for the big guy"s that like boys ( punks)

The Judge..Judge of what?? Hot dog eating contest?? Best pie at the county fair?? If you have a gavel you should keep it nice and safe...your anus...that's a good place.

Seems the bully's will haunt her in the grave. Judge's post is so inconsiderate. Really lame...

South Hadley is a town or two over from me so the progress of this is always showing up in the paper. I actually knew a girl that lives in South Hadley and goes to the same school so she probably knew some of the dick-heads that bullied Phoebe.

Apparently what happened is Phoebe hooked up with some older guys (statutory rape charges I presume). Some older girls (peers) were jealous/disapproved and bullied her constantly in school and online. Some bitch threw an energy drink from a car at her as she was walking home one day and she ended up hanging herself. Even after the fact people claimed to have known it (the bullying) was going on and none of the faculty (primarily the principle) did anything about it. That's where the new anti-bullying bill in MA comes from which attempts to require faculty to notify law enforcement of bullying. On top of the mean girls being a bunch of bitches, apparently they bragged about causing Phoebe to kill herself after the fact (Facebook, etc.). After one news station did an interview in the school with a student who called out one of Phoebe's tormentors by name, aforementioned tormentor slammed interviewees head into a locker. Real classy...

I have little confidence much will come from this. Considering that aside from these charges being brought up, only 3 of the students have been expelled. There has been tons of backlash against the school administration for letting this happen but the anti-bullying bill is already getting watered down. It didn't really help that when there was a community meeting shortly after Phoebe's death on the issue of bullying where there was supposed to be no mention of the events with Phoebe as her family was still grieving. On member of the community had to be reminded this fact when he mentioned her. Seriously though, the meeting was because of what pushed Phoebe to the edge! We'll just have to ignore the elephant in the room... On top of this Phoebe's parents said they don't want vigilante justice and with the kid's ages they'll either have a cleared adult record or have all but one of the misdemeanors thrown out of court on some kind of first time offender thing with the DA. The only one that could possibly cause any kind of complications for the bullies down the road is the two guys that got hit with statutory rape - welcome to the sex offender registry! I just really don't think much is going to happen to the bullies. They really out to be strung out to dry for this though.

I don't remember hearing about her getting raped, but statutory for 3 years age difference? then the charge is bullshit

(As I understand the sex was consensual) To the people who think this is statutory rape, what the fuck is wrong with you. 15 year olds and 18 year olds date all the fucking time. Charging an 18 year old for having sex with his girlfriend, and putting him on a sex offender registry is fucked up. Have some common sense.

Welcome to the internet, kids! You may "get away with it", but your names and pictures are on the internet permanently. When you apply for a job, get married, or apply for college, this will will haunt you. And it will never EVER go away.. . . . . .

I am 50 years old and have a 12 year old son. When i was in a new middle school in PA I was bullyed so bad I went home crying every day. I never forgot what these girls did to me. Someone has to do something about this. I don't think bullys even know what they are doing

The irish folks have a strong belife that no unjustified act will go unpunnished in time all who were involved whith this poor girl they will pay oh how they will payin time their dues will come to them when everyone thinks everyone has forgotten ....then the fiddler will play his music for all to hear

It seems only fitting that these Heartless Youth bare some Karmic Consequence for their actions beyond the slap on the wrist the legal system will give them. I suggest that someone with the experience enter their names into the Google Word Search so they can quickly be retrieved when anyone decides to conduct a College or Employer reference search and it is my hope that they are barred from ever being allowed to hold a State Certification in the Fields of Health and Human Services, Education and Law Enforcement. And I do realize that this still leaves a host of other careers open to them namely Food Service, Politics and Investment but at least they will be with their own kind

Wow guys, the article doesn't say anything about her being raped. Most likely she had consensual sex with them (hence being called a slut) but they're being charged with statutory rape (having sex with a minor) because the law can't get them on anything else. I feel sorry for the girl too but none of these other kids will go to jail except for the 18 year old and that's IF they can prove the two indeed had sex.

As for the person who said they feel sorry for the "little girl" c'mon, she's 15 and has had sex with 2 guys already that they KNOW of, how little do you think she is? Just another teenager unable to deal with the consequences of their actions, whens the last time you committed suicide b/c someone called you a slut?

I am 50 years old..But will Never forget the bullying that I went through at a new school, being the new kid, It was relentless, the girls would steal my purse, ect.Every time it was my time to read out loud in class, I was taunted. If i saw these girls today, I would ask them WHY did you do this to me.

These people don't deserve to walk this Earth. Their scum. How could they be so heartless as to continue bashing on her even after they were the cause of her death? Monsters.

This was avoidable if school administrators, teacher and/or a couple of adults would have stepped in. The school staff needs to be held accountable for NOT stepping in. They need to use these kids as an example. These kids should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law of the law and more. Those kids should have to suffer and see how it feels. What HORRIBLE kids. The parents of these cruel kids need to be put on trial for raising such awful kids. What kind of community allows these cruel kids to run free?
I have such great sympathy for the Prince family. I cannot even imagine what the Prince family is going through. The suffering this poor girl must have went through in her finally days and no one would help this ONE girl.

Really guys - You just proved the whole point without even realising it, didn't you? How little girl was she?

Naive and immature enough to not see past the day, and actually kill herself due to these fugly morons. I have no sympathy for these fucks.

Kelly, Cindy,
I agree with the both of you. These 9 people that tormented Phoebe need to be sentenced to the maximum punishment aloud for their crime. I would also like to see the principle and the teachers be held responsible for having the knowledge of the harassment that Phoebe endured everyday at school and they did nothing about it. Who witnesses abuse to another person, a teacher and doesn't stop it?
Dude, You are really good, You said it best.

Eric, a 15 year old is a CHILD, so any 18 year old ADULT who wants to have sexual intercourse with a 15 year old CHILD, is a SEXUAL PREDATOR, REGARDLESS of consent. If my 9 year old consented to sex with a 50 year old man, would that make it okay? Hope these PREDATORS and RAPISTS spend the rest of their LIVES behind bars or being persecuted for being perverted criminals!

Everyone watch our for Eric, he wants to fornicate with your 15 year old! Sick fucker.

@ The Judge

By comparison how often were the other girls engaging in sex? More often? Do you even know quick draw?

What about date rape drugs. What about pressure. I'm sure a guy has never pressured a girl before or vice versa. Young people withstand presure so well, NOT. Dude you know nada!

@Tina
There is a difference between a 9 year old and a 15 year old. A nine year old is a child. A fifteen is an adolescent. It they are not, then the term has no meaning. The penalties should be different. Engaging in sex with a 15 year old old would still be statutory rape and with the consequent severe penalties. And trying to have sex with a 15 year old for most is PREDATORY. The 15 year old usually doesn't have the financial means (however small) of the creep and is unfortunately easily influence. Nor do they have the mental maturity in most cases. Many also don't have the physical maturity either. I agree mostly with you, but there is a difference.

Hey Russell, your pretty creepy and f'd up if you think
it is justifiable to call a 15 year old girl a slut.

I feel terrible for the parents and this poor girl

"Sharon Chanon Velazquez, 16, civil rights violations, stalking"

As a Hispanic American I am ELATED because I have seen disgusting racism against non Hispanics in Miami and find it unreal that for most part we get a free pass when it comes to civil rights violatins.
One law/standard for EVERYONE.

I hope these kids if found guilty ROT in prison and the parents sue the school because at MIN it seems some teachers looked the other way . I also hope the parents of these kids are sued for every penny they have .

Hey Russell......shut the fuck up! Not only are you extremely rude, but your also dumb, ignorant, and extremely fucked up. If you think that in any way, shape, or form that this girl is even possibly a slut, you are just as bad as the fuckheads who did this. Get off the internet and go back to preschool and learn some values, idiot! As for Phoebe, may she rest in peace, she is a beautiful girl who deserved the world, not to be taken from it. May those who are guilty of this rot in prison.

Disgusted by Russell,
You are not using your user name for obvious reasons. By the way I agree with what you said completely, Russell is a fool. I am going to try doing something like you have done with the name thing you've got going. I'm sick of 4 nuts on here attacking me. Thank you!

My heart goes go to the family and friends of this beautiful young girl.

A similar story can be seen regarding the rape and bullying of another 15 year old irish girl where her 3 attackers admitted to 1st degree rape and the Judge said it was her fault - the Judge accused her of being a slut!

Somehow this type of thing has to stop, may god forgive those kids and help the family.

Google: Judge Steven Salant
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Hm, I see a lot of Russel bashers. HOWEVER, I don't agree. I don't believe she's a slut, persay, however; she was NOT raped, and honestly, if she was raped and didn't report, she's stupid.

People are seeing charges of rape and assuming it literally means she was beaten and forced into sex. What you're not realizing is even if the sex was consensual both guys are too old to be having sex with a girl her age, so it's automatically rape in the justice system. How many of you dumbasses posting that it's rape and that those guys are "predators" were fucking at 15? Probably 80-90% of you, so shut the fuck up, we can only TRY to be worthy of your presence.

Also, all this bullshit about bullying driving people to commit suicide, and this and that; are you guys retarded? How many people on here have been bullied in school or in some way? How many of you are alive to be reading this? I was bullied in school; and I've had my fair share of flamewars online; didn't kill myself.

But this, and but that. No. If you're getting picked on while at Facebook, HOLYSHIT SET YOUR ACCOUNT TO PRIVATE AND DELETE THOSE PEOPLE FROM YOUR FRIENDS LIST. Or, god forbid, stop going to Facebook; cause we all know her school work depended on her going to facebook, didn't it? (No, it didn't).

I'm not trying to say she didn't take shit from other people, and I'm not saying she might not have been sad; but suicide is just fucking stupid, especially at that age. There's no reason for some kid to kill themselves, other than shitty parenting. Your kids getting picked on? Go down to the school and fix it, or move your kid's schools, or go talk to the lil bastards' parents.

There are too many options for anyone to "feel sorry" for this girl, and if you're a religous person (I'm not), you know where she is, don't ya?

Also to DLT, guys aren't called sluts, because guys don't care. Any guy who can claim to be a slut, is generally, a fucking happy guy. Apparently girls take being called a slut negatively; why? Dunno, you clearly chose a path in which you knew you'd be called it, so why not be proud of your monicker? A slut = good lay IMO, she's got experience, skill....and well maybe sometimes some "baggage", but god bless condoms.

(Now, then, go ahead and flame away for me posting my opinion, because your opinion's are far more important than my own)

@Tina
Are you insane?! Of course there's a much larger difference between a 50 year old and a 9 year old, you can't even compare them to a 15 and 18 year old. When I was 17, I dated a 15 year old, and then my birthday came, and oh wow! I was 18! Does that mean I was supposed to stop seeing her? Of course not, no one in their right mind would and this happens ALL THE TIME.
(And just because I was dating a 15 year old then, doesn't mean I would now, grow up, try and be an adult and have some legitimate opinions)

I think its very appropriate for statutory rape charges to be filed if there was any type of sexual relation. It doesnt matter if it was consensual or not. There is a law in this Country where age prohibits certain types of activity.
Regardless if she agreed or not, I think it is HORRIBLE that someone would judge her based on the decisions she made or decisions people are assuming she made. How many mistakes have you made and regretted? The boys were old enough to know that it doesnt matter if it was consensual or not, its illegal.
Maybe she wanted to feel loved or accepted. People look for love and acceptance in different ways.
How many times when you were young, did you sit in your room and cry and "want to die" because you felt abandoned and alone and unloved and unwanted? Regardless of your family surroundings and family support, at that age when you dont feel like you have any friends, your world feels 'over'.
Not everyone is as strong mentally as you say you are. I'm not blasting you but certain people can handle only a certain amount of pressure before they snap. Assuming you are not yourself a teen, you know life isnt over when two or nine people dont like you but at that age, it can lead to severe depression and her world was probably caving in on her.
Men and woman are completely different. maybe she did agree to something with the boys because she liked them and the boys bragged and the girls got jealous and i'm sure she regretted it. Words can dig into a womans heart more than anything.
Especially being 15 years old...thats a hard age to get thru. Thats the age when you need your friends more than anything and she had no one she felt she could talk to.
I lived in 3 different states in my high school years so i know how hard it is to move and have to meet new friends. I was very lucky to have a strong group of friends and even having that, I still was depressed and felt alone and unloved and looking back i have no idea why i was so depressed. I couldnt imagine moving somewhere and being teased and ridiculed.
I was lucky. I gurantee if i didnt meet the people I became friends with and was bullyed and teased,like her, I could have ended up the same way. I wanted to die. but I got thru it. My best friends Mom commited suicide my senior year of high school. Suicide isnt just for teens and I agree it is stupid to kill youself, but you obviously have never been to the 'point of no return' when you feel like life is not worth living, when nothing is going right and you feel like you have made too many mistakes to take back.
Don't judge anyone until you know the facts and truth. Try putting youserlf in their shoes. imagine the pain and hurt they felt and things that when thru her mind that no one knew.
...the more judgemental you are, the more ignorant you look.

Im an Irish guy, who has been to the states on only a couple of occasions, which were pleasant enough, but I have to say I find some of the comments here truly disturbing. Phoebe RIP

I MUST SAY IT'S SOME SAD FOLKS ON HERE CAN WRITE THE SHIT THEY WRITE I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF SHE SUPPOSEDLY HAD SEX WITH THESE TWO GUYS, IT DOESN'T EXCUSE THESE LITTLE FUCKS TORMENTING THAT GIRL. THEY PLAYED ON THE EMOTION OF A YOUNG GIRL AND THEN FED HER TO THE DOGS AND NOW SHE IS DEAD, GET IT! ASSHOLES A LIFE IS GONE. ANOTHER POTENTIAL BRIGHT FUTURE SNATCHED. THE WORLD TODAY IS HEARTLESS AND CRUEL, WHAT IF THAT WAS YOUR CHILD THAT HUNG HERSELF YOU WOULDN'T SAY THOSE NASTY WORDS AND YOU WOULDN'T FEEL AS COLD. FOLKS GROW THE FUCK UP YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

It doesn't matter who she slept with, they had no right to label her. What makes you think the tormentors were virgins? They probably weren't. Who cares what the toxicology report says. IT isn't what drove her to suicide. She was a lonely, vulnerable 15 year old that was trying to fit in. This is no way for Americans to treat someone from another country. I hope the JUDGE throws the book at the 9 tormentors.

The statutory rape charges can be brought on anyone who has sex with a minor, including other minors. Because she wasn't legally old enough to consent. So she might have done so willingly, which all the other girls clearly saw as horrific, but legally she didn't. It's a brilliant charge to get these bad guys.

I hope the little skanks that did this get worn like old socks by some prison lesbians for the rest of their pathetic lives. Also, to the douchebags, lots of prison rape to you too! Here's to the rest of your lives being crap and hoping you die in a gutter. I hope your families get to read these comments so they know what a poor job they did in raising you. Hey, maybe your beloved family members can hang themselves over all of this and and then we can mock them on their tribute pages! You're all disgusting and I hope you burn in hell.

Irishguy-Please don't take what some of the "bullies" on this article have said, and they know who they are. The ones that are trying to justify what the 9 bullies have done. There is no justification for it. As a whole, the USA is a great place to visit and even live, but like all other countries, there are some bad apples in every group. You have to just ignore them.

What's really sad about this is that the little girl didn't think she had any other way out. That's a tragically sad commentary on her parents and the system. The school officials should be charged too as far as I'm concerned. What I wouldn't give to be in a room with them for about five minutes while above the law.

Where were here parents in all this? Going to mass? Telling her to pray? I don't want to judge because I don't know all the facts but if this were happening to my child, I would not stand idly by.

Poor baby girl. I hope those monsters rot for the rest of their lives. I hope this follows them around until they are dead. I hope they get a taste of their own medicine and their parents too.

This was about jealousy.

She was beautiful and unique with that lovely accent of hers, and the worthless whores in her class went batshit because the popular boys were quite taken with her.

The popular girls wanted her to die for it, and recruited their idiot knuckle-dragging shithead boyfriends in their noble cause of stalking and harassing.

Hope it was worth it, you sacks of shit.

I cant believe this happened!!!! To the kids that tormented this poor girl, YOU WILL LIVE WITH THIS FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!! KARMA IS SOMETIMES NOT A GOOD THING, I HOPE YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU DESERVE AND MORE!!!!

Were there NO grown ups working at that school?????

I hope the administration, teachers and coaches are being looked at as well.

According to the article below, she was raped!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/29/phoebe-prince-cyberbullie_n_517403.html

NORTHAMPTON, Mass. -- Nine teens have been charged in the "unrelenting" bullying of a teenage girl from Ireland who killed herself after being raped and enduring months of torment by classmates in person and online, a prosecutor said Monday.
Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel said 15-year-old Phoebe Prince of South Hadley was stalked and harassed nearly constantly from September until she killed herself Jan. 14. The freshman had recently moved to western Massachusetts from Ireland.
"The investigation revealed relentless activities directed toward Phoebe to make it impossible for her to stay at school. The bullying for her was intolerable," Scheibel said.
Six teens -- four girls and two boys -- face charges including statutory rape, assault, violation of civil rights resulting in injury, criminal harassment, disturbance of a school assembly and stalking. Three younger girls face delinquency charges.
Scheibel said the harassment began in September. She said school officials knew about the bullying, but none will face criminal charges.
"The actions of these students were primarily conducted on school grounds during school hours and while school was in session," the prosecutor said.
Scheibel refused to discuss the circumstances of the rape charges.

Sad, very sad. Poor girl came all the way from Ireland, ended up bullying to death by undisciplined American teenage sack of shi*t! I hope this poor girls parent sue the shi*t of out this school so every school in the USA learn the lesson.

oh my god are ye people actually reading what ye are writting example RUSSELL saying calling her a slut maybe justified this poor girl is dead, right dead in the cold earth because jealous cold hearted bitches were upset that oh my god a boy liked her, phoebe is not here to defend herself u should be ashamed of yourself and everone else who posts such stupid and cold hearted comments, nothing justifies the abuse that poor girl went though, hello in america people get arrested for doing less to an animal these animals need to be punished for the abuse that they put her though and the school needs to stand up and admit they failed phoebe.
ar dheis de go raibh a anam phoebe

First and for most I want to give my condolences to the family. I am so sorry for your loss. I know nothing will lesson the pain of loosing your little girl or bring her back but I am very happy that the bullies will not get away with the way they treated your daughter I hope this stays permanently on there record and they also need to know than thanks to them a brilliant young lady committed suicide. They are at fault. I really think you should sue the school and with the money you get open a foundation for bullied kids thinking of committing suicide. At least that way your daughters death may help someone change there minds of suicide. Again I am very sorry for your loss. God Bless you. And just keep in mind not all Americans are jerks

I agree with you Shelby...Why didn't the teachers or fellow students react? Why didn't anyone stand up for her? What is the matter with society - not only in the US but also over here in Europe! Seems we are afraid to interfere just bowing our heads in resignation. See no evil hear no evil....I feel so sorry for her family. Poor girl! How can the people who knew about the bullying but didn't do anything about live with themselves?

Regardless of the Statutory charges and the sex, there are some sick ass bastards on here. The fact is she was tormented and killed herself. All of you limp dick peckerwoods who can only get hard off of snuff films that are posting on here need to go kill yourselves, you stupid ass motherfuckers.

The problem with the school administration is that it is not a crime to stand by and do nothing when the children are being tormented by bullies BUT IT SHOULD BE!!!! They changed the laws to where, if you are watching a crime take place, you must either run from the scene or try to help. Well, these kids depend on the adults in the schools to help them when they are being harassed or stalked. And when someone throws water in a person's face, and a teacher sees this, the bully should be punished. These laws for teachers and school administrators need to be changed and they need to be held accountable when they fail a student like this and stand by and do nothing.

TO THE THE JUDGE: YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE AND LIKE ENGLBERT SAID THE JUDGE OF WHAT STUPIDITY. YOU SELF CENTER ASSWIPE AND REALLYGUYS YOU ARE A JERK AS WELL THOSE SLUTS WERE JEALOUS OF THAT PRETTY GIRL FROM IRELAND. FOLKS ARE SCARED OF NEWNESS AND FOR THEM GIRLS TO HARASS HER TO THE POINT OF DEATH IS SICK. AND I WISH EVERYONE STOP YELLING SHE CONSENTED WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR 15 YEAR DAUGHTER WOULD U STILL YELL CONSENT. SHE WAS A MINOR AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE DID IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Just need to add another comment...I am stunned about the tone of language in a lot of the comments posted. Take a good look at yourselves and picture yourself as a teenager in a highschool...which side would you have been on? The lesson to be learned from this sad story is that we have to act and react when we observe people in trouble or being bullied whether it is in the public or in school or job. It is the responsibility of every single witness to act rather than just observe and do nothing.

Phoebie's mother was concerned and had contacted at least 2 teachers to find out what was going on to help her daughter. Unfortunately, it appears that those teachers didn't give a damn.

Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel, who announced the charges Monday, said the events before Phoebe’s death on Jan. 14 were “the culmination of a nearly three-month campaign of verbally assaultive behavior and threats of physical harm” widely known among the student body.
School officials won’t be charged, even though authorities say they knew about the bullying and that Phoebe’s mother brought her concerns to at least two of them.
For those of you who work in schools, why would administrators and teachers let this persecution go unchecked?

http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2010/03/29/was-irish-teen-driven-to-suicide-by-unchecked-bullying-in-her-new-american-school/?cxntfid=blogs_get_schooled_blog

I knew my post would bring out the lower intellects.
I never said that she WAS a slut. I brought up the point that we don't know all of the details of this case. And since they are mostly minors, I doubt anyone outside of the jury ever will. A lot of folks seem to be rushing to convict them without full knowledge of the case.
Without question there are some young lowlifes there, but lets face it, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem and for someone to even seriously consider that as an option indicates a disturbed personality.

JUDGE u evil sad little excuse for a human being, how bloody dare u post something like that. how the hell do u know what went on i hope to go u dont have a child, u disgust me. nothing excuses what them little shits did to her u obviously must be a parent of them little gobshits to post something so inhuman and coldhearted u evil prick.
ur a sorry excuse for a huamn being

cant read anymore of this utter rubbish, ye call yourselfs human beings just look at the vile and utter disgusting comments that ye are posting about a 15yr old girl who was bullied so badly and by reports looked for help but nothing was done. this poor girl felt she had no other option that is not a disturbed person russell its a child again a child that felt this was her only option to end the abuse that haunted her which is very sad that in this day thats what a child must do to stop the pain she felt.

The JUDGE: You are one sick, twisted individual and need help. The bible says that you don't have sex until you are married and how old were you when you lost your virginity? 12? The girls calling her names were NOT VIRGINS! Because of the males species and pressure put on females, the average age to lose your virginity is now 12. That is sad. For every female that is called SLUT, there is a male pressuring her to become one. The you want to find a "nice" girl to marry but lo and behold, there aren't any "nice" girls left that are virgins because of men like you. That is sad and pathetic. Even if she concented, they were too OLD to indulge, therefore, the statutory rape and I hope it STICKS!

A few things:

1) autopsy report - word is that it is circulating in SH. not sure that it should, given the age of the victim and not sure that it should due to it not being released officially. what do you suggest it contains, rocki?

2) the incident in the library was reported, just not until after she was already dead. had the staff intervened or comforted Phoebe, she might still be alive.

3) statutory rape charges - these would not be levied unless actual sexual activity took place. she was 14 at the time; age of consent in MA is 16 with no flexibility or excuses for "boyfriend/girlfriend." word is that there may be one or more coming against one or both of the males.

4) she's a slut because she had sex - we do not know if she "had sex." rape is not sex, and she unfortunately is not around to defend her name or honor on this issue. the two males will say she wanted it. but for all we know, they forced it upon her thereby leading to more stress because now they not only tore her down emotionally but also physically.

5) the judge is an idiot. 3 guys? I see only 2 names... unless "the judge" is yet another who raped the now-dead girl.

6) syn is correct about one thing: my opinion is more important than his. and my opinion makes more sense because it is based on FACTS instead of the misogynistic cultural values his parent taught him.

7) cowards and idiots beat up on dead kids who are no longer able to defend themselves.

Russell ya old phart - rape is a permanent and life-long problem for many who are raped but only a temporary get-off for those who are rapists.

Which are you?

Seriously, don't you guys know a troll when you see it?
Stop feeding it already.

Hey, someone used my name and it wasn't me! However, I agree with the sentiment even though I don't agree with the spelling, punctuation, and capitalization! ;)

I hope they get raped and beaten to death in jail.

TO JUDGE AND RUSSELL

DO ME AND THE REST OF THE CONCERNED FOLKS WHO DO HAVE A HEART A FAVOR; GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY LITTLE PERVS YOURSELF. YOU GUYS ARE WASTE OF HUMAN BLOOD AND BONES AND ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT MAKES US HUMAN. WHERE IS YOUR HEART U POMPUS CUNTS. I HOPE U SHIT HEADS NEVER RUN INTO THIS SITUATION

NOW DO ME AND GOOD HEARTED FOLKS ON HERE A GO KILL YOURSELF.

Russell = idiot - she was a child

Misc self-righteous christians, get over yourselves!

My heart goes out to Phoebe and her family, I hope those little fuckers get back 10 fold what they dished out to Phoebe, may justice be served swiftly and brutally!

So many room temperature IQ's.
It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with people of such limited vocabulary and comprehension.
If you can't understand what someone says to you, it's better to keep quite and look stupid than it is to speak up and remove all doubts.

TO RUSSELL:

FIRST OFF, YOUR IGNORANT AND TINY CUBIC OF A MIND MADE A STATEMENT THAT WASN'T NICE. DON'T GET MAD A ME BECAUSE YOU WAS BORN WITH A SHITMOUTH , MAYBE NEXT TIME YOUR DESPERATE SEEKING ATTENTION POMPUS ASS WILL LEARN TO KEEP YOUR TRAP CLOSE.

THIS IS ABOUT PHOEBE AND MAY SHE REST IN PEACE.

i hope the 9 morons get all the punishment they deserve....

such a pretty girl....feel sorry...:(

for all concerned.
somewhere in these posts. someone said "so this is the welcome we gave them?"
wake up people. this is the America that we live in today. we live in a time when i am not responsible for my actions. i was, too fat! too thin! beaten as a child! picked on too much! was raised poor! raised rich! doesnt seem to matter anymore. no one seems responsible these days. we have to (and i dont care how many non believers there are out there) get back to god and church. start raising our children to be responsible, caring people. how can we do that when the parents of today overspend and get themselves so far into debt that the government has to bail them out. oh yes!! to all you responsible people out there,,,,,,, the government can do these things because their hand reaches into your pocket and mine. it starts at home and i do agree with the person who said to put their parents on trial. this is inexcusable and wont change until we wake up. i can promise you that she isnt the only child who has ever taken their own life because of bullies. she just got the publicity. with that said. my heart goes out to the Prince family. i will pray for them, and hope that one day they can see an America that they can be proud to be a oart of them. you couldnt blame them for going back to Ireland for good. ive thought of doing that myself.
teach your children. its nobodies fault but ours.

Throw the book at those lil fuckers,, hopefully it knocks em out and they wake up in a pool of their own blood,, bastards..

HAHAHA....Russell

What an idiot! You left a comment to call your detractors stupid and misspelled a word.....it's QUIET, smartass!!!!

Guess your IQ isn't as impressive as you think......but thanks for "speaking up and removing all doubts" for us!!

Too bad they can't get the administration/teachers on some charge. Aren't they tied by law to report when a child is in trouble of some kind? I suppose not or they would have found a way to charge them too.

Sauerkraut, great post with your 7 saged points!

Rocki, are you hoping to tie this girl's demise to her being prescribed antidepressants? They aren't illegal, you know? I doubt they will do a toxicology on a girl that chose to hang herself to end her life. Once again, you try to position your personal hatred of antidepressants into a story where it does not belong. Perhaps another venue would be better suited to having your voice heard on this subject.

I'm Irish, female, and a teacher. Reading some of the comments on here has made me never ever ever want to return to America. Some of you have disgusted me beyond belief.

I feel incredibly sorry for this girl. I feel even worse for her family who are left struggling and grieving, trying to figure out why this happened to their daughter and why no one helped her.

This will be even harder for them to understand coming from an Irish background because here teachers will step in to prevent bullying. I know this, because I am a teacher.

RE the stat rape charges:
A) she's underage - illegal. If you can't do the time...
B) she was going through an awful time and so was clearly influenced by the thought that 'This Guy Wants Me' in a school, and at a time, when no one else seemed to. She was in a very vulnerable position, and was taken advantage of by older, more self-aware men.

What a horrible, desperate state for any human being to be in.

If this happened in Ireland, which it wouldn't, the 'kids' involved would be shown no mercy.

They showed none to Phoebe.

I hope she rests in peace now, and I hope above all else that her parents and sister find some relief in this awful, awful time.

Go ndéanfaidh Dia trócaire ar a hanam dhílis.

Que peut il bien se passer dans la tête de certains étudiants pour commettre des horreurs pareilles ????
Je suis très touché par cette tragédie, et j'espère que justice sera rendue comme il se doit.
Mes condoléances les plus sincères à la famille de P.Prince, paix à son âme.

When I saw on the news this AM that they were arresting the girls, I was relieved to see some justice finally coming from this. Picking on someone is one thing, continuous bullying is another. It's time the modern day youth of America realizes that there are consequences to their actions (this coming from a relatively young person at only 24 years old).

On the "slut" comments - I didn't sleep with my high school bf until we were both legal.. But I also didn't call anyone a slut who did sleep with someone before then. I do believe that the "statutory rape" claims that are thrown around just for revenge completely takes advantage of what should be a useful legal tool in our society. Because it is a law, I feel it should be enforced accordingly, but I do believe there should be some amendments to it (within reason).

Jose - That's an interesting perspective, and one you don't typically see brought up from a minority POV. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it! :)

Angry / and Sad Mama - I'm sure the reporter did what reporters do best and inferred from the fact that the males were brought in on Statutory Rape charges meant that she was "raped", I put it in quotes because while it is against the law, I consider true rape to be non-consensual intercourse.

Aoife...

I understand your anger and agree that this a terrible tragedy that never should have happened and that some of the comments on here are disgusting and sad.
I do not however, agree with your sense of superiority. Would you want your country to be judged by the actions of the worst of your society? I'm sure you have rapists, murderers, ect. Does that mean you condone it or that your entire country is evil? Most Irish are Catholic, does that mean you are all child-molesters and perverts? Of course not! Bad people are in all countries, all colors, and religeons. Please do not put me in the same category with these scum. I have confronted bullies myself and almost got beaten up for it (thank god my brother was there). I talked to my best-friend this morning (a teacher) and she was just as disgusted and said she is very merciless when it comes to bullies. You said it could never happen in your country and I hope you are right, but do you personally know every teacher in your country? So, how do you know every teacher would step in? I am not trying to put you down or pick a fight, I just think it is unfair of you to blame this horrible tragedy and these disgusting comments on all Ameicans.

This is just terrible. I have a 6 year old little girl. While getting ready for work/school this morning, she came in my room, while I was listening to this news report. Try explaining this to a little girl!!! She asked "why would people be so mean to her", "what does it mean she took her life", etc. This just sickens me to no end. The fact that the facilty allowed this to continue, is beyond me. We've got to teach our children to be kind to others. The parents of these children better be carrying more than just the weight of their kids being in trouble, they are to blame too!!!!

Pete Kotz said:

Sorry we treated this daughter of Ireland so poorly, Aoife. I've never been to Ireland, so I don't know how many dickheads you have there. But in America we suffer from a few too many, both in Massachusetts and on this comment board.

My apologies on behalf of my country for not welcoming Phoebe and her family the way we should have. These little pricks in South Hadley have dishonored and disgraced us.

The adults that knowingly allowed this intimidation to continue should be held accountable.

If they are not charged criminally, perhaps an avalanche of lawsuits will land them in bankruptcy.

If they are not held accountable, you can bet other adults are more likely to look the other way in the future. Especially if the adults are also racists.

This story is just plain horrible. What right do those nine students have to everyday go to school and make somebody miserable? We all go through different experiences in our lives that others don't know about. Dealing with the fact of being in a new country, no if not many friends, and who knows what else. (divorsed parents, illnesses...etc) Those immature kids are MURDERERS. Another term if you're not aware of, is BULLYCIDE. It's a combindation of BEING BULLIED, COMMITING SUICIDE, and it was a HOMICIDE. These kids get off with bare minimum and it's unjustified. Not to mention that the school teachers and administration deserved to have something held against them in the courts. Not to mention the fact that they were NEGLECTING her and some were just IGNORANT and perhaps racist? The opinions are never ending. They deserved to be fired and never be allowed to teach again that involves young children because obviously they can't handle being a responsible adult. I hope all those douche-bags rot in HELL for all of ETERNITY. That includes those little shitheaded teenagers and the neglecting adults.

Wow how could those effin teachers not do a damn thing about phoebe getting harassed....I hope you fucking teachers know that Phoebes death could have and should have been prevented....I hope you teachers know that this will be with you for the rest of your lives.....This just aggrivates me so damn much.....

If Phoebe had come to our school as a teen we would have thought it was neat. All our foriegn exchange students were so intresting to us and easily we be-friended them. Like a few other posters said this was all about jealousy.

Btw I was'nt suggesting Phoebe was foreign exchange student I was just giving an example.

Ditto, iLLusionS!

Although we were too small to ever have any foreign exchange students visit, I've always found it so difficult to be critical of foreigners who choose to come here - because I'm so intrigued by their own culture! Not to mention I've always been obsessed with Ireland.. Kind of the reason we're going their for our honeymoon ;) We're only a few generations from having grown up there... Haha.

Anyway, on point, the girls in that school are the ones that should be looked down on.. Not our country as a whole.

I agree on the jealousy motive and hope all responsible are punished to the fullest extent of that States Law. True also Val, the actions of a few should'nt be considered the Consensus of a Whole.

I feel so bad 4 this girl and her family! This happend at my school this year a 6th grader! It was teachers and students. I hope those mean skanks rot in jail! I was bullied really bad 4 several years i have issues with trust and have a harder time making friends i hate having kids form school over. Parents think bullying isn't as bad as kids say it is and that we r just exaggerating hopefully after this they'll listen! I'm also mad administrators won't be introuble they knew it was going on they know those kids r mean people never change!

It is so difficult when your child will not open up to you and tell you what the problem is. Moms aren't allowed to attend the child's school and follow them around. By the time you are 14-15 years old, parents have to trust their children to attend school on their own. Why the school administration didn't step in and didn't inform the mother, when she talked with 2 different teachers, now that should be a crime. The mother was asking the teachers for help and didn't get any. When a child has been raped or forced to have sex, they feel hopeless and many times, the female will attempt suicide. That is actually a symtom of rape. And FYI, if she had been taking anti depressants, she would still be alive today.

I wonder why the girls weren't charged with a hate crime for calling her an, "Irish slut."

Mom of teen charged with bullying South Hadley H.S. student Phoebe Prince into suicide blames victim
BY Helen Kennedy
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Hey You Guys shoud really check this out...
Tuesday, March 30th 2010, 6:43 PM

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/03/30/2010-03-30_mom_of_teen_charged_with_bullying_south_hadley_hs_student_phoebe_prince_into_sui.html#ixzz0jhukalYx

Apparently the mom of one of the girls is blaming Phoebe.

Looking at these evil and downright disgusting teens, Phoebe was leaps and bounds above them. These girls felt threatened by her because they were not able to compete with her: whether it was with looks, personality, or humanity. How dare any one torture and ridicule a beautiful and promising young lady. These little boys and girls hopefully will get a taste of what they have done to her. I am ashamed that one of the girls parents has the audacity to even suggest that Phoebe was calling her daughter names, yeah probably in defense of herself. While these students are being charged as adults, and I hope the prosecution has a lot of witnesses that can elaborate on the brutality of the treatment Phoebe received, I also hope that her family sues these students and their families in a civilly. This girl suffered tremendously and many of these parents are making excuses for their ill raised/over privileged degenerates. They all need to learn a lesson and step up and take responsibility for what they did. These kids pulled a trigger slowly and unfortunately Phoebe had to die over and over everyday that they tormented her. Why haven't we learned after all of the school shootings??? Kids who are bullied so severely either ended up snapping and becoming violent or end their pain. I am so sorry for Phoebe and her family. This is an injustice.

Brian: That is a good question but I have a feeling that the District Attorney's office filed as many charges against the 9 students that they thought they could win. Maybe they thought that they couldn't win the "hate crime" conviction so they left it alone. After all, name calling really isn't a crime but when you stalk, harass, and rape someone, those are crimes.

Brian - I believe thats what the civil rights violation charges are for.

Hope they get the maximum, but they probably wont due to their age and the fact most of them are probably first time "offenders" on front of the law. :(

ITS SHAME FUL AND IT GETS ME SO UPSET TO HEAR THAT THEY DIDNT DO NOTHING TO PREVENT HER DEATH

FROM ALL THEM MOTHER FKIN BULLIES SHE IS A BEAUTIFUL ANGEL

BITCHES SHE WAS BETTER THAN U ALL TOGETHER

They all should be forced to carry Phoebe to her grave. Live with this for the rest of your lives you pricks.

iLLusionS,
Your guess is as good as anyone's as to why an autopsy and a toxicology report needs to be done on Phoebe or what it could possible prove? There are so many GREAT opinions on Phoebe's story. Because of this little girl, her story has brought so much attention to the crimes that are going on in our schools across the US. Our children look up to us for protection and guidance we will eventually be able to send them to school without any fear of being there. With some new laws that are being looked at now to stop bullying in Schools, we will be able to send our children to school knowing that these sort of things will not be tolerated in our schools. School administration will have to report any abuse they are witnessing and if a child reports abuse to a School administration, by law the abuse must be reported to the appropriate authorities . Phoebe did not die in vane. God Bless Phoebe and her Family

Sandy....Unless rocki cloned me somewhere that I don't see I don't think you intended to direct your post to me.

Phoebe you were a beautiful looking girl and i am so sorry that you had to suffer at the hands of these *insert explicit* people. I hope finally you have found some peace xx

I'm absolutely blown away by the fact that none of the school administration are facing charges!! We send our kids to school and automatically assume they are safe, that the teachers teach, support and protect our children when they are in their care. Obviously the teachers involved go to school just to eat lunch for the good they did!! If these revolting children can be charged then why not the adults, who stood by and let this happen?? I just dont understand. What makes children behave this way? I dont know what else to say....my heart goes out to Phoebes family and friends and i truly hope these feral kids get exactly what they deserve. I just dont get it....

vain***we never expected her to predict the weather

Sandy, I neither know you or dislike you, but I am getting a weird vibe from you.

Your not the only on neithernor.

If you were agreeing with me Sandy I never posted anything about toxicology reports? :)

Phoebe did not die in vane. I forgot to thank you for the error VANE VS VAIN, I did not read over my spell check. Next time. Thank you again for your help

iLLusionS NO No you did not say anything about a report, I did get your name in there and you shouldn't have. Two of us were agreeing with you and the autopsy and toxicology report were mentioned.
But I do love your posts.

Sandy No worries I just did'nt want to be mistaking for rocki EVER! lol

Groan, ******mistaken

iLLusionS how old are you, if you don't mind? You are pretty easy going and logical. You don't ever seem to lose your cool. And I would NEVER mistake you for Rocki.

I do lose my cool Sandy no use denying that of myself, but, I kissed my 20's goodbye in 2009 and am officially 30.

I see someone has already posted the article wherein the mother of one of the accused denies her angel ever did anything bad to Phoebe. So I will not repost it. But I encourage everyone to read that article.

Unfortunately, I misplaced the article in which that same mother admits that her daughter was one of the 2 girls suspended from school prior to Phoebe's death due to harassing her. And I misplaced another article in which the ass't super stated that an additional "small group" had been kicked out of school due to yesterday's indictments. Word is that the "small group" is just 2 girls. And 3 additional girls remain at South Hadley High School.

Sandy... although illusions sometimes argues with others, it is not because he's a "dissent" person. Decent, sure. But not "dissent."

;-)

This story brings tears to my eyes

@ Sandy,
I have to change how I write notes based on words i know how to spell :( But my hubby always tells me, "Only closed minds have one spelling per word" ...
But don't lump anybody together-- you know some people just get on here to fight and see what reactions they can invoke. Lots of people read your posts and know what you mean w/o clarification- don't let sauerkraut sour you.

Oh Just Saying I'm glad you decided to stop YELLING.

It's awful.. Poor parents.. Hope these stupid bullies will learn the lesson and someone treats them the same..
Phoebe, I hope you're happy in Heaven...

jUSTSPEAKING,
You sure could have fooled me, but I am really happy that you are here and I have had the privilege of communicating with you back and forth. You are one hell of a person. I'm sure no one gives you any trouble on TCR or in person? It's is surprising at times to me how people talk all of this big bad stuff behind a computer, but face to face it is never going to happen. In my line of work and the training I've had so that out in the field I can handle, people people are so much different in person. There are the criminals and there are the dumb criminal, addicts, and just crazy people, but for the most part, people are more bark than they are bit. And on a blog site it's all about the BARK

c'mon guys. this is a serious story that deserves serious comments. this thread is about phoebe and not about your personal debating skills or how well you can attack one another. show some compassion and some class, take your futile arguments and your rude comments to another thread like the baptist minister that spewed his baby batter at the porn shop.

we have people from all over the world reading this story and the ensuing comments. they think americans are barbaric and uncaring, and you're arguing just proves them correct in their assumptions.

rip phoebe, you no longer have to endure a cruel and heartless world.

Well, now we know that the school didn't just sit idly by. They actually suspended people that picked on Pheobe Prince. They have since taken action and suspended more. The ones that have been arrested should be EXPELLED. The mother that has gone public, defending her child, has now proven WHY her child is a bully. She gets it from her MOM. "Oh, poor me. I never do anything wrong". The Mom needs to keep her mouth shut. She is only making things worse.

Agreed, Jadensmokes. I came back to see what comments had been made about the mother's statement, as I had just now had a chance to read the whole thing.... And this is what I find has happened since last night.

I'm not all together innocent when it comes to "having words" over the internet - but I usually get it worked out and don't hold permanent grudges (because, let's face it.. Everyone has their opinions, you can't change them... Only share them... NICELY). Let's look at what you all are doing, and remember that hateful words and superiority complexes are exactly what gave us this story in the first place.

These little shits deserve to be shot for what they did to this poor girl! If they don't get the death penalty they better pray I don't find them!

It's not fair that the teachers and administrators get off they hook. They should be charged as well. If at least one of them would have stepped in to stop the harassment, this poor girl would have still been alive! My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.

@ sauerkraut I am a SHE just want to clarify. Also My daughter is 9 I have mentioned before her school this school year made an anti-bully program. Where it is up to students and teachers and staff that when they recognize a bully situation it gets handled. Thats not to say thier won't be insecure selfish teens like this when my daughter becomes a teen. Not to mention the poor countless teens who do not tell on thier bullier.
I also think the teens themselves who get bullied should recieve help! As corny as it sounds some type of support group. (As corny as that sounds) A way to renew thier self esteem.
If the teachers at this school knew what was happening to Phoebe they need to be fired and held accountable in some way for allowing this to happen.

It's also a potentially Dangerous situation when a kid is bullied at school,..not all of them take it out on themselves...some internalize and build up so much rage that they explode one day and shoot up a house/school/place of employment etc. So an intervention program and possible support group Would be a very good idea for many of the bullied types.

So... having sex means you should die? Ah... yes. The 'reasoning' of a brainless twat-troll. So if Phoebe deserved death for not being a virgin in high school, what punishment does being a moronic, cold-blooded, soulless douchebag warrant?

Shoo, Steff.

What is so hard about typing complete sentences!!!!! If young Americans would spend more time learning while in school and getting an education they just might be able to type, use proper grammar, and write complete sentences. But no, we must all understand how much more important it is to text, bully and slut around (teenage pregnancy rates are on the rise - once again). Nothing more than wild animals. Be damned to all those responsible for this young girl's circumstance. EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE ARE THOSE LOWLIFE EDUCATORS WHO KNEW IT AND DID NOTHING!

First and foremost, it is very sad that a young lady died and I am sorry for her family and friends.

However, I feel that I must address a few things. Everyone that wants these "little fucks to rot in jail"....well, don't you think that is also being a bully? I DO NOT condone their behavior, but they will have to live with these decisions for the rest of their lives. Yes, they should see some punishment, but we also must realize that these people are children. How many people on here didn't make mistakes when they were this age? I know I sure as hell did. Did I ever bully anyone? Absolutely not, but to say the rest of their life should be ruined....ridiculous.

I lost my virginity at 15 (do I regret that? yes and no...I was too young to be doing that, but I was smart about it). I was dating a 18 year old that I dated from the time I was 14-17(he was 17-20). Yes, we had sex and it was 110% both parties. I knew damn well what I was doing. Do the 17 and 18 year old deserve to be put on a sex offender list? Hell no. That will prevent them from getting an apartment, living in certain neighborhoods, getting jobs and could cause their future children to be bullied by other children and parents that find out. Yes, a 50 and a 12 year old is TOTALLY different. A 2 year age gap at these pivotal years does not deserve that harsh of a punishment. By no means should Phoebe have been called a slut, but I'm sure she knew what she was doing, and this is coming from someone in the exact same position.

I was only "bullied" once when I was younger for a span of about 2 months and it's because an older boy was telling people that he had sex with me (he did NOT, by the way) and the older girls started to harass me. Guess what I did about it? I walked right up to him and hit him in the face for all to see. If you're going to spread lies and your girlfriends are going to talk about it, I'm not afraid to knock you out. He hit me back and a group of athletes jumped him and broke his nose for hitting a lady. BUT, guess what? I never heard about it again and the girls stopped because they assumed that I would also deck them, if I did it to an older boy. I did get suspended (ironic for a goody-goody cheerleader), but I don't regret it.

It is extremely sad that Phoebe killed herself, but I feel as though the pressure should be put on educators and parents to inform children that no matter how bad it is, you shouldn't take your own life. If the school would have stepped up, this girls life might have been saved. How many kids are bullied all of the time that don't commit suicide? Maybe this is because the school systems took appropriate precautions. Shame on the adults; they're old enough to know better. As for the bully kids, yes they should know better as well and see punishment, but let's also realize that they are still kids and they have a long life ahead of them for karma to find them. RIP Phoebe.

I hope that all all these little high school shit heads either get what they deserve or become miserable for the rest of their life.

I'm glad these spoiled brats are getting exactly what they deserve! And anybody else that was ever bullied by the brats should be able to punch them.

The school part is kind of vague - yes,if violence happened on school grounds it needs to be reported and dealt with (and it looks like teachers knew something). But school cannot control what stalking goes on on Facebook, texting, on the way home from school. Fact is, the parents of these punks are responsible for letting their "angels" get out of control. These kids probably never had a spanking in their entire lives.

RIP Phoebe....My heart goes out to her parents...I have a 14 year old daughter who has also been bullied...she has low self confidence and it is hard for her to stay upbeat. I am apalled by the statements made on this subject. Please do not take this the wrong way...but how can we expect our children not to say or text or type horrible things about someone, when some people here can't even practice that. Parenting is a full-time job, it does not come with a handbook. As a parent it is our job to know what is going on in their lives and to be there to help them or to discipline them. It is our job to set the example. As for the children who are being charged in this case....I do hope that they feel full ramification for their actions. In regards to their parents, I am sorry that you are going through this is well...it is imaginable to think that at anytime our kids could be in the position that yours are and it is such a terrible feeling...As for the statutory rape charges, again it is our job to educate our kids...I also have a 15 year old son, and it is our job to educate him on this type of law....Come on parents, education starts at home.....

No wonder they bullied her, they are hideous and Phoebe was GORGEOUS!! That one girl has a forehead the size of Texas. Maybe that's juvenile on my part to say, but just being honest. Jealousy is a powerful emotion that poisons your soul. The MA court is not the only court these kids will have to answer to one day. They really should have been smarter b/c Phoebe will be there on their judgment day. She was too young to understand that life will get better and it's not the end, it wasn't her fault that she did what she did, it was theirs, and they will pay for that in this life and the next.

Is not right these people are out there mind for these this had a great life ahead of you by those bullies they only thout about themself they did not say sorry or nothingc before she died well god bless the girl she in a better place now

I look at her picture and I see this beautiful young girl. I feel sickened that this has happened. What is wrong with people to allow this sick torture on another human being? When I think about what she must have endured... I truly hope that these Kids are punished. Regardless of their age,they had to of known better. This is far beyond bullying. It is Evil what they did to this beautiful young girl. Can you imagine what she went through to get to the point where she felt that this was her only way out? Not one of those so called teachers helped her? Her family will have to live with this for the rest of their lives, and her poor sister that had the misfortune of finding her! After all this and they still taunted her in death! They couldn't even muster up any human emotions even after finding out that they drove her to kill herself! I hope Phoebe is at peace now. God Bless You and your Family!

I'm from Ireland and I have to say how disgusted I am. I feel physically sick from reading the news about Phoebe. I really hope those girls/boys suffer with painful guilt for the rest of their lives. Phoebe's family will have to live without her for the rest of their lives so in comparison, to what those kids will get as punishment will mean nothing anyway. I know kids from anywhere in the world can be cruel but it seems to be so extreme in American schools!! In Ireland, schools are nothing like they are in the U.S we never treated each other like that. Maybe this will prompt the staff in schools to be a bit more aware of the extent of bullying.. Rest In Peace Phoebe x x x

Its a heart breaking story. And eventhough it is difficult to forgive, I dont wish for these kids to suffer for ever. but most importantly, lets hope lessons are learned and that not only the kids, but also that the parents and teachers see the importance of core values like friendship, forgiveness, understanding, love and respect to others as the path in which to live life. Rest in Peace, you will make a beautiful Angel Phoebe

Let's all copy and paste these little pricks photos all over the internet and let people know what they have done. See how they like it.

THESE COMMENTS ARE DISGUSTING! (And if after seeing that you thought you’d agree with me, you should probably think again.) Can NO ONE use punctuation, spelling, grammar, or even decent language to get a point across?? It’s very sad to me to see people claiming to be in their thirties, and even fifties, whose age evidently surpasses their IQ. It’s frustrating, and, quite honestly, borderline revolting, when my fellow Americans can’t even figure out that the plural form of a word that ends with a Y, such as BULLY, pretty much always ends with an IES; not YS, not even Y’S. Of course, I shouldn’t have expected much else, considering the astounding lack of merit presented in the article under which these comments are displayed.
That being said, I feel I need to address the statutory rape issue in its entirety; ignorant confusion and blind controversy alike. Statutory rape merely denotes an ILLEGAL margin of age at the time of fornication, and nothing more. It does not mean that this girl was forced into intercourse of any kind; however THAT doesn’t mean that, had she consented, such a circumstance would no longer considered rape. To those of you who do at least understand what statutory rape means yet still believe that the boys involved should not be charged, you are forgetting that this is LAW. Let the judges do their job, just as you expect the administrators at South Hadley High School to do theirs: the right way: by obeying the law, and just doing the right thing. While I admit the administrators aren’t completely faultless, it seems ridiculous to me that anyone could blame them, or even the bullies themselves, for what happened to Phoebe Prince.
Immigrant or not, I can’t help but to think that Phoebe knew exactly the kind of label she would receive for her relations with these boys, even if she wasn’t having sex with either one. I’m not implying that she should have avoided the relationships completely, or even made the right legal decisions in terms of sex. I mean only to say that because the expected outcome of Phoebe’s situation almost certainly included potential rude remarks from particularly catty girls, she was well-prepared to handle the situation in a mature way and to be able to brush such comments off more easily. She had to have known the consequences of her choices, despite whether or not said consequences were fair.
While I don’t necessarily condone bullying, it’s ignorant to think that these kinds of harassment are particularly uncommon, let alone exceedingly hostile. Look at the stream of comments on this site and count how many of them include personal notes and stories of having been bullied. There is an abundance of comments that fit such a description, and, as far as I know, that means that the poster themselves has, in fact, lived to tell the tale. Was this social torment a factor in Phoebe’s unfortunate decision? Maybe. But was it the unequivocal cause? No.
As for all of the comments containing proud claims of being Irish, such information is completely benign, and the term “Irish slut,” as used by the bullies at hand, held neither significant weight nor a particular negative connotation in the aspect of ethnicity, and also did not contain any racial slurs. Was she Irish? Yes. That means that anyone can call her Irish at any time, because that’s what she is. The offensive part of that phrase is ‘slut,’ which is based solely on opinion rather than fact.
@Russell – props: “room temperature IQ.” That comment made me smile.

Lots of words, FirstAmendmentRights, but in the final analysis all you did with that verbiage is blame the victim. piss off.

Leah - nice story about how you lost your virginity but to suggest that Phoebe willingly gave hers up is unfair. She's not around to defend her name or honor but people keep on making assumptions they have no business making.

As for ruining the lives of the accused... well, seems they've done a fine job of that by themselves, individually and collectively. Oh, and they totally destroyed Phoebe's life, didn't they? Hard to feel any amount of sympathy for them.

Well, that's a rather shrewd point of view, however such a claim is inevitable in this particular case, as the culprit and the victim happen to be the same person.

first amendment...a little diarrhea of the mouth?? While you are patting yourself on the back because you think you are so articulate and intelligent give yourself a slap upside the head for blaming the victim. As sauerkraut said....piss off

YeeHaw First Ammendment so let someone as lowly and unsophisticated as I myself translate what it seemed you were so eloquently trying to spell out for those of us not worthy to understand. When you use the phrase that 'you don't necessarily condone bullying', does that mean you might entertain the idea? Phoebe knew she would be harrased relentlessly by insecure teens who had to prey on someone else to make themselves feel special? So much so it would become an everyday experience thrown in her face because, after all some girls are catty. Hmmmmm.
Yes blame the victim and use my big words and perfect vocabulary to do it, then it might slide a little easier. NOT!

I'm sorry, did I miss something? I didn't realize there was an alternate meaning for SHE killed HERSELF.

No but there is an alternate meaning for bullying it's called harrasment which is what they did to her. There is no such crime as causing someone to commit suicide.So should they walk when thier actions resulted in this? Hell no! I hope they slap them with every charge they can think of, as long as they don't have to make it up.

They're teenage girls, of course they're going to be catty! The last time I checked, the survival rate of HARASSMENT, aka name-calling, is pretty high. Did these kids take it too far? Maybe, but suspension would be a sufficient consequence. So if you want to hear that it's no one's fault, then sure, suicidal tendencies are nature, not nurture, meaning people are born with a certain predisposition to have them, but no outside force is actually strong enough to push themselves all the way over the edge.

First Amendment my point was there can be a cause and effect seen here in this story. Can we prosicute the teens in a court of law for it? No. But if we are ever gonna get a handle on teens targeting teens this way here, this case, is a perfect opportunity.
Maybe this child was more prone to suicide, sure some people have a thicker skin then others. So what? It does'nt mean you can bully another human in that way.
Yes she took her own life. Yet those involved in NO WAY should feel thier hands are clean.
Bullying apparently carries on into these peoples adult life so it must me pretty damaging psychologically.

i thnk tht we shood al spel everiething rong

There is a difference between killing yourself and being pushed and abused to the point where living is no longer an option.

iLLusionS I completely agree that bullying, in general, is completely inhumane, however what these people did differs from what Phoebe did in that it is in fact nurture over nature, but one of the kids involved chose this kind of hostility, whether it be projected or steered inward. As for 'clean hands,' however, I highly doubt that the bullies involved will ever be able to wash the blood off of the hands they used to push Phoebe around. Do you think that this won't carry on into THEIR adult lives? Why should we ruin nine more lives to make up for one lost? An eye for an eye? Too many people are blind as it is...

Human Plague, I don't know if you realize this, but life is continuous. There is always a choice, and living is always an option.

Excuse me, I meant NONE, not ONE.

What happened to Phoebe was downright despicable. Bullying is inexcusable. The reality is bullying is not doing anywhere. Young people bully their peers. Adults do the same thing. Family members bully their own flesh and blood. The school should be answerable for what happened. They should be removed! Immediately. If they didn't do anything about it, it means they didn't care enough to address it. There is no place for an administration who doesn't care. But nothing is mentioned about Phoebe's family. Did Phoebe inform them? If so, did her parents address their concerns with the school administrators? And if nothing has changed, did Phoebe's family report it to their local authorities? Did the parents take this to the school superintendent? Just like th school the parents also failed to do their role. Protect their child!

There are two types of rape. Forcible which they were not charged with. Statutory which they were charged with. The Mass Law says a 15 YO can not consent to sex with someone. The fellow from Spfld was probably her boyfriend. Did he pressure her? Do not know. She may very well have been led to believe if she had sex with these guys the abuse would stop. BUT it did not. My first inclination is to say these kids need help, but after their comments in FB THEY ARE SICK PEOPLE in need of serious pschological therapy. JAIL time probably will not be seen by any of them. BUT they will have to put down on every job application and college application that they have been charged with a felony. Perhaps may not keep them from getting into the college or the job, BUT they will have to explain themselves over and over again. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they will come to realize what they did and live that horror each and every day of their lives. BUT these ADMINISTRATORS and FACULTY who knew about this and turned away they should pay with the loss of their jobs.

Its okay you had a typo even inferior literature scholars are entitled to those @ First Amendment.

But, on a more serious note. Yes people should be exploiting these kids, but there comes a point where it gets rediculous. Sometimes the best punishment is to let it be and move on. If these people who did this have any common sense or the slight chance of a little something called a heart. Their guilt will tear them to shreds, sending them into a deep spiral of depression and humiliation. On another note: the thing about what FirstAmendment said is true. No outside force is actually strong enough to push themselves all the way over the edge. It comes from how they deal with issues in their own lives. EVERYBODY gets bullied, pushed around, gets in fights, feels depressed, wants to just GET AWAY... but it is important to analyse HOW you deal with a situation you are faced with. If someone you dont even know comes up to yo and says your stupid, are you just going to agree with them and say "I'm stupid." no. You will say fuck you and walk away. I think looking back on the main issue here, yes. these people fucked with this person. They should feel terrible just like ANYONE would. Blame shouldn't just be placed on the kids doing the bullying, it should be placed on the school, her family, the community, for not reallizing that this girl was suicidle and emotionaly unstable and talk to her. A lot could have been avoided it everyone wasn't so stuck up in life. Everyone looking at all of this drama should continue on with their lives, but before doing that, you should re-evaluate your own life and how you treat people. Obviously the suicide thoughts developed in her head because of the community she grew up in. Its stuck up drama queen people who feed on putting other people down to lift up their own ego. It's important to ACTUALLY take something out of this inciddent. It's important to grow and make necessary changes to your own life to become a nicer person. In return people wouldn't even reach that point of self termination. They would recieve support and positive feedback from their peers so that they feel good about themselfs. If you think, "Wow, I have never even heard of these people.. how could this person accuse ME for the suicide?" because there is a point in everyones life where we act like stuck up @$$s, and we have all said SOMETHING bad about SOMEONE else in our lives. (If your too stuck up to admit that then your more of a problem than everyone who starts drama.) So it is the community's fault. Not JUST those kids in the pictures.

Also First Amendment I responded to your other post but it got lost. You would NEVER see me type, nor speak,"Hang these kids from the tallest tree!"
But during thier whole torture Phoebe mode they did break laws. So if that is the side angle we have to use to punish them and show that we won't tolerate it like thier school staff did, so be it. As far as remorse, if these a**es are as cold as they seem the only sorrow they will have is for themselves. I hope not but, probably.

Living isn't always an option. Far too many people have had that option taken from them and it sickens me that after all this time, people still can't stop hurting each other.

Ps:

iLLusionS said:
Its okay you had a typo even inferior literature scholars are entitled to those @ First Amendment.

=FALSE

I know I dont spell everything right, so dont hurt yourself lifting your finger, but even inferior literature scholars can afford a thing called SPELL CHECK. So they should spell everything right. Especially if it's your career.

Human Plague has one of the strongest points made. If people stopped hurting eachother, and maybe helped more people other than themselves, more problems could be avoided. After all... how many people could honestly say that they would help somebody the have NEVER SEEN before in there whole life, if they were being abused in ANY way?

Small ripples can make waves.

Or perhaps focusing too much on the syntax of their words, you're deprived a better understanding of their thoughts, and impressions? TO hell with spell check,..if its' their career then they likely have editors and the like to do that for them. WHile I respect your opinion on the necessity of grammar to make
good presentations, I personally think its more important to understand the presentation itself. (without scrutinizing the presentive form)

So,..basically it was a typo. (who else but you gives a S?it?)

Collective responsibility isnt in everyones nature unfortunately, it would be better if it was.

Jeremy :)
@ BillOfRights It's a little thing called sarcasm I was using. Did I miss the mark?

Nope, I saw the mark,...I think you just shot it out there and he missed it, or perceived it to be an affront to his scholastic abilities...touchy touchy.

Well I must say goodnight on this post.
As always I was entertained as well as enraged by most of what I read ;)
Jeremy I am asuming Bill and First are one in the same. I am sleepy so I could be wrong about that. LOL
I guess since I can't put two sentences together I will explain my sarcasm. First Amendment hopped on the scene talking about other posters syntax and lack of punctuation. Leaving the reader to believe his own was pure perfection. Then he left out a letter in his own post so, Whoops he/she had to point it out, no one else even noticed. So I was SARCASTIC and said see even literature scholars can have typos. Take time to absorb that because I am so simple minded and did'nt pay attention in english class I might have not gotten through :) G'night

WOW...I see a lot of arguing going on! I dont agree with what everyone has to say but FUCK IT! They are entitled to their opinion! AMERICA FOR YA!! However, my heart goes out to Phoebe, her family, and friends! I feel disgusted with the way youngins are in these days and the administrators that sit there and do nothing about it! smh! Lord knows I had my ruff times going to a "hood ass middle school." Much love and respect!

@BillOfRights- You are a hypocrite. You forget, I've read your papers. Enough said. I also believe that, not unlike yourself, Human Plague didn't have a valid point at all. Both of your arguments are completely benign.
However I do think that iLLusionS did make one of the best points I've seen out of all of these comments. Small ripples can make waves. This is true all the way across the spectrum. On another note, I honestly can't believe the overwhelming hypocrisy that this entire forum represents. What people fail to see is that while they pity the girl driven to suicide because of harassment, accusations, and name calling from a group of catty girls, they themselves are doing the exact same thing. A group of less than ten smalltown kids facing a nation--even a world--of hate; criticism thrown at them every way they turn. It's like a vicious, never-ending cycle. People need to start looking themselves over with a more critical eye before they start passing judgements about anyone else.

On a side note: @iLLusionS- I wonder, of what consequence to you is my gender? Would I have won more, or even less, of your respect had you thought I was not, in fact, a 'he'? I will have you know that I considered not only the First, but also the Nineteenth Amendment for my username choice. The Nineteenth Amendment, as you must know, granted women the right to vote, and, had I been a man, my primitive nature would not have considered said document to, say, my favorite food. I'm a girl.

no russell calling someone a slut is never justified. and torturing her months non stop and physically hurting her is not justified.

Russell: I pray that you do not have a daughter and that you may someday realize the difference between a slut and a victim. BTW- referring to a 15 yr old girl for any reason as a "slut" only shows how insensitive and ignorant you (or anyone else) are/is.
I pray that Phoebe and her family find peace and that the evil people including school officials who turned a blind eye are brought to justice in the eyes of the law and of God.
May this tragedy spark awareness for the need for school official early intervention in such cases in the future.
You are with God now Phoebe and you are safe!

These dirty little shits should go to the chair like are u serious. They taunted a girl to the point she commited suicide. Like dont these people have lifes like for what like omg. i just read this article for a school assignment on bullying and im pretty pissed to the max here. Like how would they like it if they found there sister hanging in a closet. her sister is probably traumatized for life. how about phoebes friends and family do these bullys care about what there going through or how they feel, i guess not eh? like even after the fact they put comments on her facebook.

Where were the bullies parents? Yes, they were 18, but it's obvious that they have not been taught to be decent humans - probably an oxymoron anyway.

They deserve to be punished, but maybe they become priests and not have to answer to anyone.

First amendment your sex was of no concern to me. I have a habit of using 'he' as my first term of refrence when responding to other posters. Then half way through the post I caught my error and added the he/she thing. Was'nt trying to defend you only debate you and as I said I coun'dt refer to you as 'it' so I had to use one or the other. I am a girl too! :)

Sauerkraut-

To address your concerns, I was not assuming anything. I was simply going off of the facts in the story. The teens are being charge with statutory, which generally denotes a certain difference in age (15 and 18) and not forceful rape. I merely told my story to let everyone know that I am not judging her because I know that people often take things out of context.

As for sympathy, I feel lots of sympathy for everyone involved. I have sympathy for Phoebe, her family, the accused and the families of the accused. Imagine the guilt that the bullies' parents must feel. Imagine the anguish that they are going through. As FirstAmendmentRight stated, suicide can be linked genetically. Some people naturally have the tendency more so than others. The same is true with eating disorders and addictions. This certainly doesn't mean that everyone succumbs to this or that people don't commit suicide without the tendency to do so.

I was simply trying to say that instead of pointing so many fingers and trying to "hang people" we should focus on what we can do. Parents and educators should come together to try and prevent this. Bullying occurs everyday and so does suicide. Instead of trying to destroy the lives of these kids we should move forward and try to find a solution that will save the life of someone else. After all, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Yes I know that post above was riddled with grammatical errors and a ton of mispelling but I won't lose sleep 2nite :)

Those kids that bullied her have NO CLASS. Like really grow up! Like where were their parents? and the fact that she is irish.. what does that have to do with anything?..irish is the shit! and if she had a senior football player boyfriend, why did he sit there and do nothing?

I agree with you 100% that irish is the SHIT!!!! like I'm irish do they got some thing against me? or any other irish person. But besides the point, like yea where was her boyfriend, if I was in that situation and my girlfriend was having problems like that id be on a rampage... or whats the real story on her boyfriend what does he have to say on matter.

I do not know anyone involved however i know there's a special place in hell for these little pricks. I wish that i was there before this took place because the little shits would have gotten a rude and violent awakening.

What I can't understand at all is WHY aren't the school officials being charged with criminal neglect and abuse? Are they not legally responsible for our children's well being while the children are in school? Where is the accountability? How can I now send my child to school without worrying about him if SH is sending a message to the country that anything can happen and the school has no obligation to protect my child? This goes far beyond the reaches of SH for it is indeed sending a message to the entire public educational system. Why is the district attorney allowing this?

This is disgusting. I think it's time that parents start doing a better job parenting and teachers start giving a shit about EVERY single student. Change needs to happen. I can't even write my thoughts because I am so thoroughly sick to my stomach right now.

To the mothers of these girls:

You stated that your daughter isn't a violent girl, that she knows better than that and that some words were exchanged. Well you know what, she isn't what she seems is she?
Words are just a damaging as a physical attack, WORSE actually, because the scars are deep. You daughters are little brats..(/itches) and making excuses doesn't help at all. All you have done is perpetuate the problem by cutting the consequences for them. Go to family physician and get those tubes tied!! Those girls haven't added a damn thing to society.

russell. you're retarded.

These scumbags and scumbag school officials shuld be charged with murder and Hate crimes. I have an intensified hatred for bullies as i experieced that in Junior High. I'm in my 50's but if i ever were to see that piece of shit i would no doubt end up in a jail cell.

That sounds really sane and rational Reaper, you seem like the mellow, laid back, live and let live type. I bet people tell you that all the time.

Humpty I think he would end up in his/her own gas chambers. LOL

yes Ma'am (illusions) they're likely one and the same...similar to the mcneil/speaker phenomenon from a few days before. I still stand firm on what i posted last night too,..It's far more important to UNDERSTAND the presentation, than it is to take the time scrutinizing presentative FORM.( therefore wasting analytical space.)

I think you have a keen and impressive manner of deduction about you, and PETE I absolutely LOVE your writing style man, its witty and informative at the same time. (hard to pull off) You usually cover all of the bases of information well and let the reader take it from there.

I remember in one post you mentioned you were in cleveland, and you mentioned A.Sowell....I have just recently moved back to Marion ohio where i was born, (i was raised in tennessee most of my life however) and when i first got here that case was in its early stages...(they were still digging in his yard)

IN the Sowell case I think its Ironic that he was a registered sex offender and allegedly had parole officers who were supposed to do walk throughs of his home monthly...yet he manages to kill 11 (or was it 11 and one skull making it 12?) people under their noses.

To quote myself :" Justice in this Society has long since become A mere Blindfolded girl Holding the Scales which measure mans IRONY". Thank you Pete! ( for cutting away some of that Irony.)

Yah Jeremy check out the way he wrote the taser story (the ten year old) Pete was killing us today he is funny.

just read it...I didnt believe it at first...lol

Pete Kotz said:

Thank you, Saint & Illusions. I know well where Marion is. I lived in Delaware many moons ago. We appreciate you taking the time to come by here.

Pete..I'm not for certain because its been a few years, but didnt you write for Crimelibrary.com once too? before it changed.

Pete Kotz said:

Nope, I've never written for crime library before. Sorry.

oh ok, I just got my wires crossed then. I used to love that site until tru-tv dominated it. Pat brown wrote an amazing piece on "ten myths about serial killers exposed" that blew a lot of the older theories and procedures out of the water.

I just watched the news and there's not many good things being said about the school. One parent said the school staff should be charged as well as the students, because they knew what was happening for a long time. The jock she went out with didn't defend her because he's also one of the ones that was charged. What a sick messed up story this is. That poor girl didn't stand a chance. There was no defence for her. She had no where to go. No wonder she took such drastic measures. I hope her family can relocate away from the morons of that place.

HRM, thank you for that information, my jaw just dropped. That bastard bullied her to. That means he's one of the ones accused of statuary rape. If he's 18 and adult and she was 15 and say she did consent to sex with him. How in Gods name could he do that to Phoebe after she had been with him?
I hope that he goes to prison for a long time for rape, because once he's in prison he will wishing every second he had never looked at phoebe.

Sandy...YVW....I think they said the one she went out with was Sean but I'm not positive of that, but they definitely said the jock she went out with has been charged. Without Phoebe here to defend herself will the charges be dropped if the males say they lied about having sex with her?? This seems like a touch and go situation.

HRM thank you for the great information. I sure hope the 9 of them are punished to the Max.

Happy Easter!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree that the students themselves should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their actions but I still say that the school should be held more responsible. The students are still kids (most) and as any parent of a teen knows, they will always go as far as they can and take as much as they can to try and control their situation and the situations surrounding them.
Don't get me wrong, I am NOT defending their actions in any way shape or form. I am simply saying that is was the SCHOOLS responsibility to teach them that that behavior was not acceptable and would not be tolerated in any way shape or form. The school knew about this criminal behavior and allowed it to continue. The parents as well should have taught their children to empathize with the others around them and have basic moral values and consideration, but the school is the one who actually saw and hosted what was happening. Instead of stopping it or saying in any way that it would not be tolerated on school grounds, they allowed it.
I just can't understand why the DA is not charging the school for they are just as guilty if not more so. They were the adults present. If kids were drinking at a party with their parents present the parents would be charged with supplying alcohol to minors and contributing to the delinquency of a minor... why are all of the students being charged but not the school officials who saw, knew and allowed this?

Who is the DA friends with/ sleeping with/ being paid off by? Where can we write our disapproval for this blatent lack of justice towards the adults who were supposed to be "in charge"?

Great reporting. Thanks for calling these handsome little monsters out. God, please let it be true: What goes around comes around.

Hi I am from Ireland and when I read this story I just found it very upsetting, it must have been absolutely horrific for this girl if she committed suicide over it. I think all the bullies will get their comeuppance in the end, it was pure jealousy I say which led to this bullying because Pheobe was a very pretty girl and she was probably getting attention from the boys. I am just wondering if her friends ever stepped in to defend her, they were probably too scare.

Hopefully this story will make bullies think twice doing this to other people.

Apparently another DA is looking into charging the school administrators.

Even if all the perpetrators of this mean ugliness get off light, they will go through life with people linking them to what they did. Anyone who went to school with Phoebe will be remembered that way. Anyone who went to that school will be remembered that way. All the teachers in that school will be remembered that way. There are different kinds of 'justice.'

I am a New Englander, Military Veteran, Professional Engineer and father of a teenage daughter. My girl had also been the "new meat" and target at her high school. We Moved from southern California to rural Ohio as she was entering her sophmore year due to my job relocation. What we thought would be a less hectic and healther life style was.... well,,, NOT happening. The kids here all grew up together and so the "click's, peep's" and other groups were well established and forcefull. She was brought up with good family and moral values and these proved to be a source of ammunition for her stand against what came. She was still hammered down and attempted to hurt herself several times. I met with the principal and police officer posted at the school and made it very clear on what may come about if measures were not taken to correct this situation at once. I have often stated that a couple wishing to have children must first prove themselves; financialy stable, mentally competent and practice the correct human moral values. It starts at home people. The actions of teachers have been restricted and so these ADULTS that are overseeing our CHILDREN during school hours do so with no power or have limited resource to correct these out of line activities. Parents need to follow through, both for your childs protection and if needed, correction. Why do teens need cell phone in school? They don't. Why are they allowed to disrespect or threaten teachers and other classmates? They do. So, until we logical, responcibles, educated and common sense thinking people, both young and old step up, monitor, get involved, act and follow through, young, sensitive and growing human beings like Phoebe will continue to be abused, mentally scarred and may even die. Let justice have its go on these fools. But its time for the media to step up as it would for a serial killer or child mollester and broadcast the names, pictures and juicey smutt of these students, and their parents around the globe till there names are associated with filth and disrespect. Perhaps the teachers and administrators also need to share, since they had knowledge and did nothing. I bet these "in group students" got some great stuff on their cell phones and social communication accounts. Lets see who the real slutts may be. Embarresment may be a useful tool to couple with the legal activities. I would enjoy having both the male and female students involved get a taste of life and require U.S. Army or Marine Corp's service for three or more years as part of there judgement. Lets put their asses on the front lines and see if they don't feel the need for acceptance by the other soldiers. My last name is
O' Halloran and I was called Mic, not Robert. My respect and feelings to the family and friends. We shall never know Phoebe in her full being. A true loss to needy world.

I grew up in West of Ireland in a place where Gaelic Football was and still is the Religion of the natives. I was a quiet kid and came from a large kind family and was unprepared for the bullying to be inflicted in the under 14 and under 16 leagues. When I couldn't stand it any more I quit and joined the soccer club where I went on to play for my university and a super league thereafter.

I remember when I was about 24 years I went back to the Gaelic Club where I started - so I could attend the training sesessions. I will never forget the satisfaction of out sprinting the field over and over again. To this day (I'm 40 now) I still revel in it a bit.

One slightly more important observation however was that the bullies have never really achieved anything in their professional lives. And that applies to all four characters that spring to mind. They are still hanging around that small town and rarely holding down a job. Their kids are growing up just the way that they did and I am sure that they will finish like the generation before them.

If you have children that are being bullied. Please don't underestimate their pain. And please tell them that these phases will pass faster than they think. Life is a long an winding road. Usually bullies are a bit lost and don't know how to find their place. However those who are not bullies are the real people must find their direction and then look back and help the other. Well that's what I think.

Greetings from Ireland!

To the heartless violators:
May the curse of Mary Malone follow you and your nine blind illegitimate children so far over the hills of damnation that the Good Lord will need a telescope to find you!

This is disgusting. These kids deserve Jail. And the teachers and all the admin. in the school should be fired. What a disgusting town!

First off, there's an awful lot of cyberbullies right here. Second this is a terrible article, the use of "Dickhead" as a reference to the alleged bullies is hardly good journalism.
There are far too many comments to read but after some spot reading I'll voice my opinion whether its been stated or not. Being bullied is no fun i'm sure, never had the luxury of being actually bullied. And i'm thankful.

People die everyday. Most not by choice. I feel for the parents and family because I've lost family members. The cause of death doesn't matter at all when it comes to the family, its nothing that can be shrugged off. For someone articles have claimed to be smart she didn't show it in her final hours. There were other options. Bullied on facebook? Delete the account and don't go on. Transferring to a school isn't that hard. Getting even is not only fun but it might stop the problem. Or It may make it worse in some cases. Graduate early...tough to do freshmen year but...

If convicted with rape the boys should go serve a life sentence. being put on the sex offender list would do them some good to. As for the girls i'm sure they'll get there's if they go to college. If not its not going to change anything.

Life is filled with much greater challenges than bullying. I've have friends that were bullied all through highschool and they said it sucked balls then but being able to get through it pretty much helps them get through all the shit they deal with at work(not bully related).
This is one of many cases that proves that life isn't for everyone and all bridges should be built with driving boards. with a sign that says "a quicker way to a better place"

this wasn't meant as a troll

It does prove one theory wrong though. You can't always get away with killing a whore with out people noticing.

That was meant for trolling and a quite funny distasteful joke i might add. Bring on the hate, because i know you all hate different opinions.

Antwon, No one is going to bring on the hate. Why? You know what you are and we all know what you are by your comments. End of Story.

Well said, Sandy. That pretty much sums it up.

obviously this is so totally disgusting and unfortunately too common of a scenario.. but i mainly wanted to add this:

for people criticizing pheobe for not " bucking up" and handling the harrasment in another way... Until around age 19 the emotional/ impulse control decision making part of the brain is still developing. Kids simply do not have the the same faculties to have perspective and a full understanding of consequences.

I had a hellish childhood and i never attempted suicide. However i had some very hard knocks from a very young age and had to learn to protect myself emotionally very early on.

Now I dont know much about this girl. But what i do know is that children with a happier safer homebase or people in general with relatively happy lives, often do not have the same coping skills when something like this hits. That;s not thier fault. That doesnt make them stupid or lesser in any way. Perhaps naive, Maybe more innocent. But if you ask me, all children (should) have the right to some innocence and naivety.

RIP Pheobe.

I am estatic that the horrible, evil little creatures got charges. I will be interesting however, if they are sent to adult prisons where they may have to endure that same crap that heaped on Phoebe and many others (as per reports).

Russell: Are you serious??????????? Were they justified in calling her a slut?????????

Let me guess....YOU were a bully?

I WAS A VICTIM OF BULLYING AT BELCHERTOWN HIGH SCHOOL IN THE 1980S. THERE WERE NOOO MINORITIES THERE AND BEING ONE OF THOSE MINORITIES- I WAS A VICTIM OF BULLYING! ONE DAY SOMEONE BROKE INTO MY LOCKER AND DESTROYED/THREW AWAY MY PICS I HAD HANGING UP IN THERE AND I WENT TO MR. EASTMAN WHO AT THAT TIME WAS A ASST. PRINCIPAL THERE AND HE TOLD ME TO "GET OUT OF MY OFFICE BEFORE I EAT YOU ALIVE!" WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF RESPONCE WAS THAT FROM AN ASST. PRINCIPAL??? WHAT KIND OF FUCKING PRINCIPAL WOULD SAY THAT TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDED HELP AND WAS A VICTIM OF A CRIME LIKE THAT? INSTEAD OF SYMPATHIZING AND HELPING ME AND REALIZING IM A "MINORITY" IN A ALL WHITE FUCKING RACIST PREJUDICE BELCHERTOWN FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL.....HE INSTEADS TELLS ME TO GET OUT OF HIS OFFICE OR ELSE HE'LL "EAT ME ALIVE"! THERE WAS ONE RACIST KKK BASTARD I WANT TO EXPOSE IS RICHARD CONRAD AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS FUCK HEAD FOR WHAT HE SAID TO ME! ALL THE RACIST PREJUDICE COMMENTS THAT FUCKING KKK MEMBER SAID TO ME IN HIGH SCHOOL! JUST BECAUSE I WAS A DIFFERENT COLOR THAT GIVES THESE ASSHOLES THE RIGHT TO BE RACIST TOWARDS ME????? I THINK THAT AMERICAN KIDS ARE THE WORST KIDS IN THE WORLD BECAUSE ITS THEM WHO ARE COMMITTING MORE AND MORE CRIMES AND NOT THE ADULTS! WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO OUR AMERICAN KIDS? WHAT HAPPENED TO RESPECT TOWARDS YOUR PARENTS AND OTHERS????? ITS THE PARENTS I BLAME FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE BASTARDS AND THEY CANT KEEP THEIR OWN FUCKING KIDS IN LINE! LOOK AT THE OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE ASIAN COUNTRIES.........THIS SHIT IS UNHERAD OF AMONGST KIDS THERE COZ THEY ARE MORE DECENT AND CIVILIZED. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT WE HAVE THE FUCKING INTERNET NOW WHICH IS CAUSING PROBLEMS AND CRIMES AGAINST ADULTS AND KIDS! WE DIDNT HAVE THE FUCKING INTERNET GROWING UP AND WE SHOWED RESPECT TO OTHERS INCLUDING OUR FRIENDS AND PEERS! THIS INTERNET IS WHAT I FUCKING BLAME FOR TODAYS CRIMES! ITS A SHIT SHAME THAT THIS UNITED STATES OF FUCKING AMERICA IS GOING DOWN THE DRAINS ECONOMICALLY AND CRIMINALLY! NO WONDER PPL ARE SLOWY STARTING TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY! I HAVE A SON WHO IS 15 AND I TOLD HIM (THANK GOD HE GOES TO A MUCH MORE CULTURED SCHOOL THAN SOUTH FUCKING HADLEY!) I TOLD HIM THAT IF ANYONE TRIES TO HARM HIM NO MATTER WHAT GRADE THEY ARE IN....I WILL FUCKING GO DOWN TO HIS SCHOOL AND SUE HIS SCHOOL, I WILL PERSONALLY BEAT THE BASTARD AMERICAN OUT OF THOSE WHO HURT HIM, AND I WILL SURELY GET THEIR BASTARD PARENTS IN SUCH TERRIBLE TROUBLE THEN I WILL EXPOSE THOSE FUCKHEADS AND THEIR PARENTS ON THE TV, INTERNET AND THE MEDIA AND NEWSPAPERS! HER PARENTS SHOULD SUE THAT BASTARD SOUTH FUCKING HADLEY SCHOOL! I CANT BELIEVE THE TEACHERS AND WHAT NOT DIDNT SEE THIS SHIT COMING AND DIDNT DO MORE TO PROTECT HER???? WHAT THE FUCK! ANOTHER BELECHERTOWN HIGH SCHOOOL ALL OVER AGAIN! I WILL NOT SIT BACK AND LET ANY FUCKING BODY DO THIS TO MY KIDS NO FUCKING WAY! I WILL FIGHT AND I WILL PERSONALLY BEAT THE AMERICAN BASTARDS OUT OF ANYBODY WHO HARMS MY KID AND I WILL BE EXTREAMLY HAPPY FOR GOING TO JAIL FOR "MANSLAUGHTER" ON A TEEN! GEE, IM NOT SURPIRISED TO READ SOMETHING LIKE THIS COZ LOL AFTER ALL...THIS IS FUCKING SHIT AMERICA AND THE KIDS ARE THE ONES WHO GONNA RULE THIS FUCKED UP PLACE! PRETTY SOON...THERES GONNA BE NO DECENT EDUCATED PERSON LIVING IN USA COZ WE ALL GONNA GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS BASTARD COUNTRY AND LET THE CRIMINALS INCLUDING THE SHIT KIDS RUN THIS FUCKED UP COUNTRY! IM GONNA ENCOURAGE MY SON TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF AMERICA! THIS COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN! ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES LOOK AT USA AND SAY WHAT BASTARD IDIOTS WE ARE! WE HAVE THE WORST CRIME IN THE WORLD - I MEAN NO OTHER COUNTRY COMES CLOSE TO THE PATHETIC FUCKING CRIME RATE LIKE WE HAVE ESPECIALLY WITH THESE FUCKED UP AMERICAN KIDS WE ARE RAISING IN THIS SHIT COUNTRY! LET THIS BE A LESSON TO ALL THE SCHOOLS THAT IF U DONT DO SHIT THEN UR ASS IS GONNA BE SHOT TO HELL AND SUED! PARENTS OF PHOEBE.....SUE SOUTH FUCKING RACIST PREJUDICE HIGH SCHOOL AND EXPOSE THE RACISM OUT OF THOSE ASSHOLES AND THE KIDS AND THOSE KIDS BASTARD DOESNT GIVE A SHIT PARENTS ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to upate ya alls on the situation (havent looked yet to see if a new story is out).

3 of the bullies were arraigned in absentia yesterday. All plead not guilty thru their respective attorney. They are free on personal recognizance and need only submit for booking by Friday (4/9) and stay away from the family.

No restriction on staying away from the schools and no curfew requirement.

I have video of the actual arraignment on my blog.

My kids were bullied when they were in middle school. School principal and bus driver did nothing, told me I should get the police involved.I ran for school board, that got the administration's attention:)Parents need to teach their kids to stand up for anyone who is being picked on: bully the bullies to stop.

Am troubled that we aren't asking why a certain individual would find suicide an answer when most kids who suffer this stuff do not kill themselves. Makes me wonder if there were already problems internally that the bullying surfaced. As well, having sex when so young (IF it even happened),with more than one person and with people she obviously had only just met after moving here...I think that is just way too much emotional baggage right there for a 15 year old.It isn't that sex is bad (to me), but we all know there is a lot of emotional stuff attached to it and kids that young simply are not ready to handle the unforeseen consequences of it. Though most people do not react to the harsh realities of life with suicide, those kids should have been stopped. Did her parents go the parents of those kids and ask them for help with the situation? Not go yelling at the other parents, but ask them to help find a solution? This is just all so complex. And believe me, I was doing all that for my kids, today in their 30's they both seem fine and happy enough in life...but I know it hurt them horribly at the time.

Not saying this will make a difference, but you never know. If your kid is being harrassed on FB, then have them just stop getting on FB at all. Look at it this way, instead of thinking "it's not fair I can'[t use FB"...think "ha, the little jerks can't get to me on here because I won't be seeing it". Tell your friends you don't want to hear what they are reading about you. If they are your friends they will agree. Same thing with texts on a cell phone. Get a phone without text usage and just have the kid phone for what it should be used for: emergency calls to Mom and Dad or 911.

The most important thing I think we all control over regarding this is to teach the vast majority of the good kids to stand up verbally for the kids who are being abused. Encircle them physically in the halls or walking home so the bullies can't get to them. Teach your kids to stand up for kindness and goodness and consideration of others, not be indifferent as long as it doesn't affect them directly. THAT would make a difference: have all the positive accolades from the majority of good kids drown out the negative garbage from the bullies.

@Raquel I agree wholeheartedly about parents cracking down on FB and cell phone usage. If parents of bullies and the bullied alike monitored what their children were doing online or with their cell phones maybe it could put a stop to some of this.

I was bullied at school, but not to the extent some children are. I'm 26 years old now, but we didn't have access to all of this when I was younger..You were lucky if you had a pager and yahoo chat. I don't want to imagine what goes on at school nowadays.

I don't have children yet, but when I do you can bet I will be keeping an eye out.

AMERICAN KIDS ARE THE WORST,
You really are upset about this school and bullying,!Which stands to reason. I agree with everything you said, maybe not in those words, but you're right and until we as adults take care, punish, love, teach, stop giving our children everything they want they learn nothing in life. Children are learning that everyone owes them. Parents keep giving in to their kids and the disrespect and violence will continue.

American Kids: I can tell by the emotion in your post that this bothers you a great deal; it's as though a personal wound has been re-opened. Try not to put all American kids into the category with the misguided kids in this case, or all Americans in the same category with your reprehensible Principal who did nothing to protect you. I truly believe that our society is becoming more sensitive to these issues. It was unfortunate that you were not offered the type of protection that every child deserves. The good thing is that your own son will be protected by you, just try not to give him the impression that America or the world is a bad place in general. Surround youself and him with good people. I am white, but married to a hispanic and have hispanic children. There have been a few racial issues, but 99% of the time we are around wonderful people and our children enjoy complete equity in our schools.

Russell is an asshole..just ignore creeps like him..I hope each one of those little pieces of worthless shit gets prosecuted to the fullest extent allowed!!

I was bullied thru all my school years. It is truley difficult. Thank god for my brothers and sisters at times they were my only friends.

I just watched the news again, and they summed up the final hours of Pheobe's life. She was constantly called a slut, stupid whore, useless bitch because the mean girls(as they were called on tv) were jealous of the fact that she had gone out with both the males charged. She was confronted in the library with the girls screaming at her to close her legs she was a stupid slut, they treatened to punch her in the face and said they were going to get her. I hope they throw the book at all the ones that are charged because no matter how you look at it they are all guilty of her death. As for the males, I can't see them ever being able to call themselves men. A real man wouldn't stand by and let that type of treatment happen.
They also interviewed her teacher from her school in Ireland who said Phoebe was very intelligent, shy and maybe a bit withdrawn. They also never had any trouble with her at the previous school. At least she is layed to rest in Ireland, where she was loved and treated as an equal human being.

@ eric&steve - charge is NOT bs. she was only 15 - not the legal age for consent in Massachusetts. Grow up. It isn't always the girls fault.

Steve said:
I don't remember hearing about her getting raped, but statutory for 3 years age difference? then the charge is bullshit

Posted 03/29/2010 at 10:33:17 PM
Eric said:
(As I understand the sex was consensual) To the people who think this is statutory rape, what the fuck is wrong with you. 15 year olds and 18 year olds date all the fucking time. Charging an 18 year old for having sex with his girlfriend, and putting him on a sex offender registry is fucked up. Have some common sense.

Posted 03/29/2010 at 10:35:53 PM

eric: First off if it was his girlfriend what the hell is he doing running around telling people about their trysts in bed? Only males with 2 inch penises need to run around bragging about conquests that may or may not have happened. Second if it was his girlfriend why the hell did he not stand up for her against the rest of the mob? Guess cause he's anything but a man. Who's to say they even slept together, and if they did it's nobody's business!! The mob of females had no right inserting themselves into something that didn't involve them. All I know is that Phoebe isn't here to defend herself, and I doubt they checked for virginity during the autopsy. What I do know is my own personal feelings, and I hope they throw the book at each and every one of them so they carry it around with them for the rest of their lives. At least they will have a life, much more than what Phoebe's got. They can use them as an example for the rest of the wannabe gangsta's walking around. There really are consequences to pay for idiot actions.

HRM: He's a kid. Kids are insane. Schools are hotbeds of the most vicious, rarefied insanity you can find outside of... eh. Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker? Something.

At least we can use these kids. Set some precedent for legal action. Maybe put the two statutories on the sex offender registry for a few years. They have caused a death, so now we get to use their lives to benefit others.

I would put something here about us never forgetting what these petty little lunatics did... but don't have to. Isn't the internet awesome? Whenever someone googles any of these people, this or a related news story will come up. They are marked for ever and ever. A-fucking-men.

This whole thing makes me so ill! How could the school administrators allow this thing to go on??? This was abuse! The administrators along with the students involved need a major form of punishment! Put them all in prison for MURDER! Make them do time! You can't buy back a precious life! Life for life! Too much of this anymore! Show them there are responsible for their bad actions!

I would give anything to put these little fucking assholes in a meat suit and put them in a locked room with some hungry and angry pitbulls or just me in a room with them and a baseball bat! I was bullied and I hate bullies1! I just want these stupid little pricks to pay and if any of them are pissed reading this,bring it on you stupid little shits,I will kick your asses!!

That makes me mad to see something like this happen actually it makes me beyond mad because its not fair to her she didn't get to live her life because of those lowlives!I know how it feels to be bullied but they were just horrible I hope they get what they deserve if I see someone getting bullied I try and stop it because I don't want anyone to take their life because they thought it was the only way out to get away from bullies anyway R.I.P. Phoebe.

The school officials had 5 MONTHS to do something but never did anything.
If you work at a school and see something like this going on- NOW is the time to stand up! Don't wait, like these school officials, until it's too late! This is not a game when you see kids bullying others, nor is it "growing pains". Have enough courage to take a stand, no matter what the personal consequences to yourself will be.
Now that it's too late, no doubt the school officials wished they'd intervened. Don't live with regret! If you see this happening around you, even if you're a teenager, contact the authorities if the teachers/principals won't help. Call the parents of the bullies and threaten them with lawsuits!

Remember the gay teen who got $50,000 for suing the school that did not stop the taunting he received? If Phoebe's parents sue the school for negligence, it may get school officials everywhere scared enough to start cracking down on bullies.

Nah, don't let them go to jail. they won't be in there for life and they will get out on good behavior or something. It won't bring her back.

You know whats even better.....GUILT. let them live with that guilt for the rest of their lives. everytime they are seen let them be reminded of what they did. CONSTANTLY. CONSTANTLY. no judge or jury or lawyer can ever take away guilt. and who knows maybe they'll get so fucked up in the head that they will take THEIR own lives. and that my friends will be TRUE justice. not to mention divine intervention.

OKAY FIGHTING OVER AN 18 YEAR OLD GUY HAVING SEX WITH A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL IS NOT THE POINT. Do any of you really get it? People need to realize that Then having sex isn't the point of the article. SHE IS DEAD BEACUSE OF WHTA THOSE ^ PEOPLE DID TO HER. So you all can shut your STUPID mouths and stop fighting over if it was sex or not. She was 15 and got bullied to death thats the point since someone obviously needs to point that out you all of you. No matter what you say on here is going to drop the charges, The law is the law and having sex with a minor is against the law NO MATTER HOW MANY OTHER KIDS HAVE SEX WITH OLDER GUYS it is stilll against the law, SO SHUT UP AND ALL YOU IGNORANT BASTARDS SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR A LITTLE KID THAT DIED

Lisa.....ARE YOU BRAIN DEAD???? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? THE WHOLE REASON SHE WAS BULLIED WAS BECAUSE SHE SUPPOSEDLY SLEPT WITH THE TWO MALES THAT ARE CHARGED, SO YES THAT MAKE IT ABOUT THE SEX. MAYBE YOU'RE DYSLEXIC AND READ THE ARTICLE BACKWARDS, OR JUST PLAIN STUPID BUT YOU NEED TO GO TO WALMART AND TRY TO BYE A BRAIN. OTHER THAN A COUPLE OF MORONS LIKE YOU IN THE ROOM THE PEOPLE POSTING WERE DEVASTATED FOR THE YOUNG GIRL AND HER FAMILY. NOW GET A GRIP AND GO BACK TO PLAYING IN YOUR SAND BOX!!

To most of the other posters, please accept my apologies for my outburst. There are times when people are just so obnoxious they infuriate me. She is a prime example why stupid people shouldn't breed.

HRM,

No worries :) The occasional outburst is healthy.

This is not going to change a damn thing.. it is just another death in the millions of cases of abuse EACH DAY all over the planet..
people like them are everywhere in all corners of society, i'm sure many of the people who read this.. have seen it and done nothing about it.. this article is a sham .. Blaming them wont change anything.. and punishing them probably wont either.. because IF they are just going to become meaner, they choose to do so.. and then the world is worse off for it...

A Famous Quote: It's only wrong if you get caught doing it.
....welcome to reality.

P.S. i nearly killed myself when i was that age too.. but a friend that chooses to walk with you can make a big difference.

HRM, no problems.

GravityNinja, you said that if the Bullies are punished they will become meaner? How much more Evil can they get? T hope that they are punished to the fullest extent of the Law. There is a vigilante out there that has posted on TCR,he/she says that he/she is going to make the bullies feel the pain and torment that Phoebe whet through. It looks like he/she is on their way.

Went= miss spelled.

you are obviously a bit ignorant to this situation...i said IF they become meaner...but hey(Sandy) its not your fault most people are.. i study alot of things one of which is crime and these kids.. could be the future charles manson, Ed Gein or Aleister Crowley.... all the blaming in this article is just a disgusting shameful act... they should be punished yes but they should know forgiveness and love too so they may change someday.. These kids have been taught or manipulated to be this way... because everything we are is shown to us and our choice... they are not born monsters...something made them.. and you cant solve this error until you understand it. (but im sure you dont want to understand it at all)

P.S. who is this vigilante you are talking about? are you trying to point the finger at me now? The LAW is a scam.... it destroys the middle class, lower class workers... and all the richest people get away with murder, rape and theft ..you seriously don't get that? America is fully corrupt.. the corporations, education system, Law system, monetary system, Hollywood/Entertainment industry...i think u get the point... murder is not the worse crime..theft is..because murder is stealing a life... lying is stealing the truth...so lying is the worst crime... and guess what everyone lies... so dont point your finger at me and call me a vigilante just because i know you are one of the worst on this planet. i am not afraid to look at myself and change who i am...that has made me a better person.

gravity.....*sweeping sarcasm under the rug* what are you so paranoid about?? IF YOU had read the earlier posts you would see exactly WHO Sandy was talking about. Somebody came in earlier posting they were going to kick some asses. Did YOU say that?? You post like you are the high and mighty know it all. If you are so highly educated why is your grammar and punctuation so pathetic. Unfortunately for you they don't sell a mirror that shows a defunct personality, cause you definitely have one. And guess what....I'm not even Sandy....LoL

GravityNinja, I don't know what you are referring to as pointing the finger at you? I am not saying anything about what you posted. I don't know how anyone could get any meaner than these punks? On the original article there are posts on TCR that this person or persons said “that they will never stop at the bullies.” It was on MSNBC that the bullies are being bullied. Who I don't know. Just so you understand I was NOT referring to you.
I don't know how you came to that concision that you are the focus of an Opinion. You are way off base. I never referred to you as a Vigilante. I don't even know who it is? If fact the news doesn't know who is behind it. Stop being defensive my comment was not about YOU.

"so dont point your finger at me and call me a vigilante just because i know you are one of the worst on this planet. i am not afraid to look at myself and change who i am...that has made me a better person."

Thank You shaking my head, I am pretty sure that this person that is attacking me as usual, is one of the regulars that make it their life to monitor ME. Thank You again.........

I don't know why they (few) do not post their regular user names, Oh yes I do. These few Posers are hiding behind their computer. LOL

Wow all of the female bullies are ugly as fuck (I don't judge guys)... I bet that's the reason why they bullied Phoebe in the first place. Hopefully, those ugly bitches will get a taste of karma in the future and fall into a vat of hydrochloric acid or face some other horrific death.

Wow, calling the bullies dickheads and threatening death is just as bad as the bullies themselves.

The statutory rape charges are suspicious, unless sex was not consensual I see nothing wrong with 2 highs choolers dating and having a relationship

Did any of you ever bully anyone when you were in school? How would you feel if you had charges pressed on you?

""The statutory rape charges are suspicious, unless sex was not consensual I see nothing wrong with 2 highs choolers dating and having a relationship ""

Good for you. But Statutory rape is all about having sex with somebody who is beneath the legal age to give consent. There's nothing "suspicious" about it - the prosecutors aren't putting a wild interpretation on the law just to beat the wee babies over the head or anything.

""Did any of you ever bully anyone when you were in school? How would you feel if you had charges pressed on you?""

Gee Whiz James, I guess I'd feel pretty bad if I was charged on account of bullying. If I stole something and got charged I guess I'd feel bad too!

How about this for a crazy idea: when you do shitty things, you should receive punishments and you should feel bad. I know that's pretty loopy, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

I'm so sick of this shit. Why won't parents take responsiblity for their kids? Why won't they teach them about respect and common niceness. Yes these little plain faced and one was fat as hell kids were just jealous, so they struck out in the only way they'd been taught. Acting like assess. I am so sorry for the parents of this little girl. It's a shame that we are so far behind in America. We continue to disgrace ourselves by raising barbaric ass kids and then trying to justify. Be responsible and make your kids responsible. We are raising superpredators.

Bullying is another form of harrassment and/or assault and its perpetrators should be prosecuted similar to those guilty of sexual and physical assault. At the very least, those found guilty of crimes against Phoebe Prince should be placed in juvenile detention until they are 21. Maybe they'll learn something...maybe not. They are scum, people with no regard for the feelings of others. Phoebe was a beautiful girl. I feel especially bad for Phoebe's younger sister, who found her hanging...she will have nightmares about that forever. If Phoebe was a relation of mine I'd be out for blood!

I pray these kids get what they deserve. My child is also being bullied in class and it seems when we as parents step in then we are to blame. I say indict the school teachers, librarian, students and the PARENTS! We all have feelings and it starts at HOME to RESPECT others!

I pray these kids get what they deserve. My child is also being bullied in class and it seems when we as parents step in then we are to blame. I say indict the school teachers, librarian, students and the PARENTS! We all have feelings and it starts at HOME to RESPECT others!

wow. this made me kry ! i hate ppl like that! u dnt fuqkinq know her & start pickinq on her . wtf? ah, idk why she ddnt do anythinq herself. its sad =/ i just hope those idiots die & feel wrost thann she did.

& whats with the damn teachers? did they support all this shyt 2?! ah, stupid fuqkd up ppl now a days

Russel, perhaps you didn't mean the insult you have caused, only you can say. However, you don't understand the dynamics of the system that you have offered a critique upon.

19. ten years of that, I lost to such jerks.
If I hadn't gotten something out of it, gained some form of permanent knowledge that now puts me ahead of my peers, I would still consider those years to be a wasted, stolen childhood. Russel, take it from someone who has saved folks.

Bullying does have this effect on people.

I now ask you to feel the following.
Imagine someone has threatened you... physically.
Imagine that a group is following you. Every time you say something, they laugh harder than they've ever laughed before. It could be the most genius statement, or perfectly normal, and they would still laugh.

Add on top of this the inabilty to leave your stuff anywhere for ten seconds to the point where you have these options: keep your stuff with you, get lunch, and have no seat later.
OR
Leave your backpack behind, and come back to find it ransacked and looted by your bullies.

also, then there's the rumors. The total social exclusion, and the rumors that are spread right in front of your face, etc.
And oh so much more that I can't possibly explain to you.

You wind up with a sense of fear and desperation, fearing the next day forward. wondering how they will torture you next, or what they will find to humiliate you now.

You don't know man...
But I can't expect you to.
But in the future... comment when you understand the magnatude of what is at play.
Experience... the gap.

And know it such.

And know, and be honest with yourself.
The way that we would want ourselves to react, is not always the way in which we will. come to terms with that in truth, and learn something powerful.

Provided you read this...
I hope that you can at least understand the outrage that your posts evoked.

Many of these people get away with this stuff, after making a conscious effort to ruin somebody's life, on the grounds that they are minors.

They shed blood, and don't care. They didn't care then. They won't now until the ol' iron fist comes down and seeks its retribution.

0.0 in essence russel, Enough is enough.
There are those of us, who, for once, would like to see a little blood shed upon the other side. This is fighting back....

If it weren't legal, then maybe there would've been another lesson learned...

For future value... I will save several... I hope, by placing a lesson here. Hear the words that took 10 years and a fluke before I understood their meaning.

You only escape, when you have help from the outside.
A friend, one who's real. Not a traitor. Not someone sought out for protection...

It takes someone new.

If there were only two bullies, what would happen?
One would open their mouth, the other would laugh, and the world would say "shut up ya dumbS**ts!", as it should.

But when you have nine people in a position of social power... then you have a problem.

people are afraid to stand against them.
They're afraid to fall into the same category as the victim.

What I've learned, is that once you escape the cycles clutches, you can break it whenever you see it happening to another. that's what it takes actually... for you, to see it, to stand up, and say ENOUGH already. Leave em.

You, must be a fellow student. Potentially a grade level higher, or in the same grade. Cemented or not, say no.

All of you, say no, and watch their little power party crumble beneath their feet... because you know what the sad thing is...

Their power, their popularity, is but a figment of their imagination. It's false power. It doesn't exist.
Someone says no, and if others follow that example...

here we had 9 oppressors.

1 says no. 2 say no.
now you have 4 people vs 9 if you count the victim.

Other folks say no, or a group forms.

Group vs group, they're less likely to continue.
Bullies, are cowards... on both the male and female ends of the spectrum, they're cowards. They NEVER operate alone.

...And I can tell you that much after 10 years.
those that continue, just doing it without reason, are cowards, and will never be a single person.

Numbers, that's all they have.
Do you think a single person could begin such a thing?
No. They couldn't.

There are many people guilty in this.
Blame not the teachers.
I know we want nothing more than to hit the establishment for not acting...
But if you get one of them suspended... the others will come double. There are consequences for this, and nine people know more people than one person, eh?
In addition, bullies are skilled liars.
I not only EXPECT it, I assure you that they will commit perjury at least five times when they're tried. There will be lies.

I only hope, that the officials can see through their ruse.

And now, for the scary part.
What my inner demons want to say.

May the bullies truly suffer a fate worse than death... Those who did it, may they suffer for it... forever.
I want this sort of thing to burn in red lettering upon their very graves... to burn red like the blood they spilled.

Spoken like a true bully james.
Way to go. just way to go. -.-

How should I put this?

People without a damn soul, should get as charged as it's possible to get. Up the arse, and around the corner with the charges.

"did any of you ever bully anyone while you were in school?"

Hell no. Once you develop a sense of decency, then maybe you'll understand why.

"How would you feel if it were you with the charges?"

Ya know what? As I am now, if I saw myself doing this, I'd wanna kill me. Ten years james. TEN YEARS.

You want forgiveness? THEN I ASK YOU THIS...can you and your kind give me back my time!?
I never got to BE a kid, because of shit like this...
And you dare to tell us to have sympathy for those so lacking in it? HA!

I think I'll laugh at you... like you laughed at so many...

One question that keeps nagging me is, who was the ringleader/mastermind of this whole mess? I know there were two groups involved because of Sean Mulveyhill and Austin Renaud.

Was it Sean Mulveyhill, Kayla Narey, Flannery Mullins, or Sharon Velezquez? Some say it was Mulveyhill, while others say Narey or Velezquez.

I think that parents should go to the police if the school does nothing. I think there should be a group that takes these kids names and keeps them out there for the world to note that they should never be hired to work for anyone and should end up in the streets alone and dead

i think this is a disgrace that the teachers cannot be charged well i think they should make an exception for these so called teachers they did nothing to stop them from bullying phoebe, all the little pricks involved in this crime should go to prison for a long time see how they handle that little fuckers, its a disgrace that something like this goes on today

Shame on South Hadley and shame on the teachers and faculty who did nothing. Nothing would be more deserving than for them to never be able to live down their inexcusable negligence. A day should never go by for the teachers and school faculty without remembering every time they could've stepped up to the plate to help Phoebe. I'd honestly be ashamed to be one of their kids. If it was one of them getting bullied at that stupid school, would their own parents turn a blind eye? If the answer to that question would be 'yes,' then they shouldn't be parents either.

South Hadley High School, you make me sick.

As for those punk kids who thought they got away with the crap they pulled, who got the last laugh, huh? ;-) No one will miss you while you're in jail.

haha you are so funny picking on a little girl,not well guess what if i ever see you i will kill you.DICKHEADS!

I have found myself overwhelmed by this story since it first broke. I know I speak for many people when I say I wish so much I could have been there myself to do something-anything-to stop what happened.

Phoebe Prince seems to have been a very idealistic young lady. I understand she once said "I have a song for every moment of my day". I can only imagine how unprepared such a young idealistic person must have been for such an onslaught of cruelty.

It is encouraging to see measures being taken against high school bullying. Maybe Phoebe Prince didn't have to die in vain.

People that bully are so obvious about how they feel About themselves...low self-worth..low self-esteem..selfish..jealous..envious..insecure..uncertain..nervous..COWARDLY!!!! THERE ARE BULLIES OF ALL AGES..I DEAL WITH THEM AT LEAST ONCE A DAY ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE. I HAD TO LEARN TO STAND UP TO BULLIES WHEN I WAS A CHILD. I DEVELOPED AN ULCER AT THE TENDER AGE OF 11!! THE NAME PATRICIA D., A SEVERLY EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED SOCIOPATH WHO BECAME MY LARGEST NIGHTMARE, WAS MY DAILY MONSTER I HAD TO DEAL WITH. MY PARENTS TEACHERS AND FRIENDS WERE ALL BLIND! MY PARENTS WEREN'T SURE HOW TO HANDLE IT..I SUFFERED IN SILENCE. I WAS TINY, SHY, AND WAS THE NEW GIRL IN CLASS..ALL THE BOYS LIKED ME..NO PROBLEM THERE. THE GIRLS WERE ANOTHER STORY; PAT AND HER COWARDLY CREW..I WILL NEVER FORGET..THEY MUST BE SO EMBARASSED AND ASHAMED FOR BEING SO WEAK AND STUPID. OUT OF THIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE IT HAS MADE ME EXTREMELY FIESTY, WITH A VERY STRONG VOICE FOR THE WEAK AND VULNERABLE. EVERYDAY I FEEL FOR THOSE THAT SUFFER. I TAUGHT MY OWN CHILDREN, ALWAYS ALWAYS BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THAT ARE VICITIMIZED..I WILL NOT ALLOW ANYONE IN MY FAMILY TO BULLY ANY HUMAN BEING. MY BULLIES WILL HAVE THIS ON THEIR CONSCIENCE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR LIVES..AND I?...I WILL ALWAYS FEEL WONDERFUL ABOUT ME!!, BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOVE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES AND WILL NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT BULLIES DO TO THEIR VICTIMS. I ALWAYS RECOGNIZED PATRICIA AND HER LITTLE SPINELESS LEACHES FOR WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT HORRIBLE ACTS THEY DID.. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!! KIMBERLY CORLESS

Speaking as a parent of a child that was bullied in Middle School - I went to the assistant principal with my concerns and was told to just "let it run it's course - they will move onto someone else after awhile" I could not believe my ears! It is this attitude of those in authority that cost this young lady her life! They had been reported to on numebrous occasiona and did nothing except suspend one kid one day - that helped didn't it? Problem is - the teachers are afraid of the administration which is afraid of the parents the parents are afraid fo the kids and the kids aren't afraid of anyone.

This is an update for those who don't know: I live 2 towns over from South hadley. The bullying started with Kayla Nardy. because it became known Phoebe went to a boarding school in ireland. and she talked differetly. And she(Phoebe) liked Kayla's bf Sean. It was an on/off relationship. Cheerleader/football player thing. The bullying started with comments about WHY Phoebe was in a boarding school. Then it was Sean dating Phoebe for a month, has sex. Then more bullying. Pushing, name calling, insults. Then Austin comes into picture. He is/was BF of Flannery. Tells Phoebe he will stop bullying if she has sex with him. She does, and then it's all over school next day. Flannery and Sharon "jump" Phoebe (more then once), Phoebe goes to school officials and told, they would handle it. Tells parents, who contacted school more then once. parents told "kids will be kids" not a big deal. They will get over it! Then prom/dance, bullying big time at dance. Phoebe left in tears. Was pushed down on floor of bathroom, drinks poured on her. then week before death, Sharon attacked Phoebe in classroom (in front of teacher) verbally and a little push. Phoebe in tears, Sharon to principal. sharon suspended for 1 day. Day of death: verbal abuse all day. in lunchroom, in class, in halls. In front of many of teachers. In Library, teacher told them to be quiet! Kayla, Sean and Flannery making loud comments about Phoebe for all to hear. Phoebe leaving school: sharon in car with mother, points out Phoebe walking- says "there goes that B*tch, hopes she kills herself"! Kayla, Sean, Flannery and Austin in car drives by Phoebe, Kayla throws energy drink at Phoebe, splashes all over. Phoebe still in tears. Home is within 2 blocks of school. Goes home. Sister comes in an hour and half later from elementry school. Finds Phoebe hanging in stairway dead. Was told in Library "she should go home and kill self because she was useless as a human being and wasted air"

All of this since Sept 2009 to jan 14 2010.

Fast forward to recently: Austin was arrested about 3-4 weeks ago for DUI in Holyoke MA. he's 18. age in MA is 21!
Little sister was being bullied at her school because of this. So family moved out of SH. Phoebe was taken back to ireland and buried.

Family has lawyer and multiple lawsuits are set to be filed (not public yet) Investigation on going regarding adults and school officials. One teacher quit. no reason given.

What no one on here knows (realizes?) there was another student in Springfield last year (11 yrs old) who hung himself. Carl is never spoken about. Only Phoebe. Or what about 15 yr old boy in Fla who had alchol poured on him and lit on fire in Oct 2009? Or the young girl who was beat so bad (also FLA-schoolmate of burned boy) she has sever brain damage? (march 2010).

Or what about the "beat downs" that go on You Tube? Our children are sick. someone really needs to figure out what is causing our kids to be like this. I'm sure they were never raised to be like this. I could be wrong, but GOD i hope not.

What makes you think Phoebe really killed herself? According to what I read these brats probably forced her to write any suicide note found by threatening her sister and mother, then killed her. I have no doubt these punks would have done that, but NOOO they are going to get off scott free and as for that school, every single person in a position of authority should be fired and never hired by any other public school funded by tax dollars, PERIOD.

Oh and as an addition I DO NOT CARE what the other side of the story is. Like someone said, a LIFE IS LOST, those responsible, whether directly or indirectly, should pay for the rest of their lives too. It should effect their futures as it has her family.

Those kids deserve to receive an even worse punishment. They should be extricated from society, and abandoned by the law system that has sheltered little worthless pieces of trash. thanks to my experiences as a child I hate this country too. does this really have to continue? Is it necessary? I implore you to consider your role in the lives of those around you.

im just like her cause thats what i went through and i got out of it finally moved to florida but here i made friends and know they hate cause i get pissed easy well ive seen alot in my life like people dieingg and im really mental unstable but noone will listen and ive had dreams of destroying these kids life for hurting phoebe i dont have any friends barely any family i wanna die all the time but i want to get revenge of those kids and the ones that hurt me as well. oe day i sat with a gun kept pulling the trigger aiming it at my head always wondering about it but know i cant wait to die i wanna meet this girl so much cause see seems like shea a great person and all those people that did this will pay i wanna do something i wish i went to that school i would fought the guys and made the girls depressed i have no friends so i bench and do mma she will not die in vein and i promise this to her family ill die sor her cause she deserves justice not them just getting suspended if this is what god wanted then i swear to god i kill him as well last year when i lived in ny i got in 41 fights with people lost 13 of them cause they ganged up on my i rely on my self i wanna go back and save her is is dumb i hate life i promise her family justice ill do anything someday ill visite her grave she deserves everything r.i.p phoebe for ill always remember you cause you where almost just like me

bullying is just another word for terror. picture day after day with a mad dog on one side of you and a gun pointed at you on the other. it is like being a jew in europe with your own personal nazi. yet, so many so called smart people make light of it. like, what possible real harm could a bully do? now we know, don't we? these creatures - including adults - who sat on their fat brains and did nothing to put a stop to the bullying - they too need to be put away. we need strong laws and enformed of these laws to let creatures like this that we are not going to put up with this ever again: YOU BULLY YOU GO TO PRISON.

Matthew, your comment really breaks my heart.

Maybe because I have an adopted child with your name who was removed from an abusive home, but I feel for you. I empathize with your situation but I encourage you to reach out to someone for guidance and support.

Please don't seek revenge, it will get you nothing but trouble and these losers and those who treated you badly are not worth your effort.
You say you do not have friends and little family... I bet your wrong. Someone in your life loves you and wants you to be the best you can be.

You'll do no justice for Phoebe by fighting for her like that. I dont know her but one look in those sweet eyes tells you she is a kind soul who would want the best for you.

As for the 9 dickheads charged... you're not worthy to walk the same ground that girl walked on.

I guess the only retribution for those who sat back and let it happen is maybe just maybe they have some feelings of guilt and will carry it with them forever.

Or maybe this will be a wake up call to schools to not let the Mean Girls (and their henchmen) get away with this behavior.

The "kids" are NEVER going to feel remorse for what they did. They'll only feel sorry for themselves if they get the full punishment the law allows. They couldn't have done to Phoebe what they did if they were capable of feeling remorseful. They had no consciences and they're too old to develop them now. They had no compassion, and they're too old to develop it now. They are a bunch of little sociopaths, whom I'm sure will cry buckets of crocodile tears in court, while smirking to themselves.

Personally, I hope the girls all wind up in reformatories, where they will be assaulted by bigger, older, meaner girls, and I hope that the boys go to jail, where they will learn what non-statutory rape is all about. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. And as well as criminal charges being filed against them, I hope the parents sue each of them and their families for the wrongful death of their daughter.

The school teachers and authorities should all lose their certificates, licenses, whatever, and be barred from working in schools for life. They're as guilty of Phoebe's death as the bullies they permitted to torment her. If they can't be criminally prosecuted, I hope Phoebe's parents sue the hell out of them as individuals permitting wrongful death, sue the school itself, and sue the school board. Money won't bring Phoebe back, but taking it from those who colluded in her death may make other school officials elsewhere realize they can't permit this kind of abuse and look the other way.

One has to wonder what, if any, part the current immigrant-hating sweeping this country had in these vicious attacks on someone so new to the U.S.

Interesting assumptions on my observation about the toxicology report. I fear that Sauerkraut is right and they will never release it because she is a minor, a convenient cover up. (however they may have to as the defense attorney for one of the kids is requesting all of her medical and psychological records and if they use this information as an important part of the defense, it will come up.) If I had a child or family member that committed suicide, I would certainly want to know if they had something in their system they may have contributed to this. Other recent developments in this is that Phoebe's family has hired an attorney. I wonder who they are going to sue.

What I find to be so terrible is that the teachers, the certificated professionals who have dedicated their lives to working with teens, did nothing to stop it. As a teacher I find this level of ignorance to be above and beyond acceptable in our profession. I hope that these "teachers" and other "adults" feel the guilt and weight of this young woman's death for the rest of their insignificant lives. Shame on them for being so irresponsible.

It is egregious that the school staff will not be held accountable for their negligence. I hope that the family gets a good civil lawyer, and goes after them. Money won't bring Phoebe back, but it would help to pay the grief therapy bills, and to afford the family an opportunity to heal, without having worry about finances. I believe the district is liable, and each of the individuals who knew, and did nothing to prevent the continued harassment.

As for the perps, I hope they spend a long time incarcerated. If prosecutors can find and convict any felony, I believe the felony murder act would be applicable.

well just think that those kids were VERY jealous of her for dating a football player jock person and being the new gurl to do it to. now the guys are just the boyfriends of the mean gurls and just went with it. THAT SCHOOOL IS RIDICULOUS FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU LET SOMEONE BE HARRASSED.?!

Phoebe was such a pretty girl she didnt deserve what happened to her. the people who bullied her got what they deserved know matter if they say they didnt know it would lead to that or not because lets face it we all know its wrong even if it doesn't lead to the death of a young girl or not. At some point in our lives most of us have bullied someone in one way or another but for most of us it isnt as bad as this was. We should let Phoebe's case finally teach us something because i want to know how many teens will have to die before we make a BIG effort to prevent bullying once and for all, lets do it for Phoebe lets stop bullying we can if we put our minds to it.
♥♥You'll always in our hearts Phoebe ♥♥

this is stupid why kill someone for no reason they made her kill herself ! what sad idiots would do that they need to get a life shes a gurl

i hope the best for her family...

This is horrifying. School system officials from all around should have their eyes wide open to this. Poor girl. And to Russel, are you really implying that someone being called a slut is 'justified'? I don't care if she was 15 and actually did have relations with these guys. Your why American's sometimes get a bad rap for being stupid. Think before you talk. Don't try to make it seem calling a 15 year old is justified. If I knew you I'd kick your ass. Idiot.

I hope those bastards who drove this girl to her suicide rot in hell for the rest of their sorry scumbag lives. Their parents are just as responsible for not teaching their mutant kids to be decent human beings.

Wow...how did Ashley participate in sports? I understand if she was the mat the pole vaulting people used to land on. Kayla and Sharon(wtf kinda middle name is Chanon? Maybe that's why she was so much of a twat) are ugly as fuck. I wouldn't touch them even if they were cheerleaders (I am guessing they were the away game cheerleaders...that they never allowed to get off the bus) Sean is deff part of the future pedophile rapists of america...so I am glad they caught him sooner than later. Austin....didn't he get charged for being a dumb fuck and getting a DUI anddd underage drinking? I think all of these retards should get the shit beat out of them in prison. They will then see how shitty their lives will be and hopefully they will hang themselves.

Phoebe was pretty cute. So I can see why those twats would want her out of the picture. I still don't see how Ashley would be one of the popular kids....maybe she steals the answers and hides them under her fat? Her face just screams DERRR DERR DEEERRRR. You can land a frickin airplane on Kayla's forehead. Sharon's face...is just wtf. Did Stephen King predict there was going to be a girl who looked like that so he made the clown resemble her? My God. She looks straight out of a horror movie!

Overall...I think all of them could maybe...just maybe...pull off a combined score on the SAT of 1000. Kayla would try to seduce the teacher with her forehead. Sharon would kill everyone in the room (seriously...the fuck is with her face?!) then Ashley would eat all of the dead bodies. Austin would be passed out drooling from his drinking habits and Sean would be busy jackin off to little kid porn.

I can't believe people are so consumed with jealousy and anger that it would drive them to torture that poor girl until she couldn't take it anymore. I really think they were jealous, because Phoebe was one truly pretty person.

I think it is really sad that this girl had to endure all of this taunting, and for what reason. The fact that the educators knew about this and did nothing disgusts me. As an educator my self it makes me even sicker.
I am so glad that these ass hole of kids are not getting away with this.
It makes you wonder though, how were these kid raised? Did there parents know what there kids were doing? If so that just makes things a whole lot worse.
To bad the "educators" wont be charged as well. They are sorry excuses for an educator and kids.
Hopefully the kids will be put away for a long time to come!!!!!!

Why is everyone insisting that these kids be "put away" for this girl committing suicide? Not exactly their doing. Besides, almost everyone here is being just as terrible towards these human beings as they were (or may have been, idt any commentators here personally witnessed the texts etc) towards Phoebe. Who knows, maybe they feel terrible -- maybe this roots down to one or two bullies, and the rest just felt afraid of being the odd one out and went along with the horror, concerned with what others thought of them. Phoebe certainly was; she committed suicide over this bs. We've all been assholes in our lives.

So should all of you serve legal repercussion for your pettiness?

OMG, I hope they get what's coming to them, i can only describe them as inhumane, how could they have kept it up for so long, they had their boyfriends?? what was their problem?? how could they have been so vendictive?? and for the school authoroties to have stood by and done absolutely nothing is a crying shame, how they can sleep at night knowing that an innocent young girl has lost her life through their neglect is beyong my comprehension! RIP Phoebe

with a name like "Flannery" it's no surprise she'd hate on the world!!! i mean who calls a kid Flannery these days...

FIRST AMENDMENDNENT RIGHT. Unbeliveable u got more annoyed and disgusted at Spelling and grammar mistakes than the fact phobe couldn't cope with being bullied death.

I think u should be some sort of law enforcer. U could be the spelling and grammar polce force and come down hard on these wretches hang the bad spellers and for bad punctuation the electric chair.
And murdered they could get 100 lines I must not commit murder and if they make any mistakes hang them.

U twat it's self important duckheads like u that forced this poor girl to take her like.

Rip pheobe.

this whole thing is about being bullied online and what not... and you guys have to be ingnorant asses an judge her from what you hear.
you all just need to shut your mouths and stop adding your two cents worth in that you think you know... when really no one will ever know why she committed suicide because she wont ever be able to tell you.

the charges against these kids are good... whether she wanted to have sex with those kids or not its still statutory rape.
she also didnt deserve to be called a slut. how would these people even know if she was even a slut if she had just moved here.

people these days need to stop being so damn jealous and get over the fact that someone likes another person and not you. take a look in the mirror before you even try to open your big mouthes.
cuz in my eyes phoebe was gorgeously beautiful.
RIP Pheobe.

This pisses me off ! I think the little pukes got off to easy and so did the school. EVery one of the little pukes should be behind bars and spend the rest of their lives in prison being raped by the scum of society. Why is it someone has to die ,before something is done ? happens every time. All I can say is good thing it's not my kid that resorted to suicide to get away from it. Cos I would go after the pukes and hunt them down and kill every one of them MYSELF!
It's like this in every school. slutty cheerleaders bulling every one. I taught my children to fight back. You can not depend on anyone to help you. You have to fight fire with fire. get them off to themselves and take a baseball bat and bust some heads. Just don't get caught. that's how I handle bullies.

OK I tried to post something a while ago but it didn't get posted so I will try again. Did anyone ever see the movie Prom night with Jamie Lee Curtis ? She had a sister in the movie that was being bullied and pushed out of a window and killed. Years later, the twin brother got his revenge by killing all of her murderers who were brats also. Maybe the same thing will happen to the brats who bullied this young girl from Ireland. My roots are in Ireland and let me tell you ,I have one helluva temper. I was bullied at school also until i slapped the face that was doing it. YOu have to stand up to them. Don't depend on the school to help you. All they care about are the god forsaken football players. All of those brats should be behind bars for life. All I can say is what goes around comes around.

first point. who gives a shit if all the words you typed are spelled correctly or if you didn't put a period at the end of a sentence. this isn't the place to discuss that because your panties are in a wad. THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT A YOUNG LADY IS DEAD because she felt her life wasn't worth living. why did she feel that way? because she was tormented and attacked. i saw stuff like this happen all the time, i once got in a fight because a bully was picking on my cousin. other kids don't want to get involved because most kids already got their own problems and don't want to pick up any extra worries. some of you who blame the victim make it seem like she is suppose to feel the way yourself would feel in the situation, which isn't possible. i am a 22 year old american and all 9 of those teens should be charged the maximum penalty. this situation isn't just about the law anymore, this is going into the morals of society. how long do we wait until things like this get worse? and for the one's saying the kids were just bullying her and it's not their fault she killed herself, how would you feel if it was your child commiting suicide, or a family member or friend? this is about doing the right thing, not just the law, and if you haven't noticed that you are alone defending the people brought up on charges, you need to evaluate yourself as a human being. we wonder why our world is getting so fucked up? it's because the dumb asses are outnumbering people with common sense.

Jay, I agree with what you are saying. These 9 kids should get what is coming to them. And just so everyone knows, it is 9 not 6. You only hear of the 6 because the age of the other 3 are under 15 and no info can be released on them. But all have been charged.

Unfortunately, it looks like the rape charges will go away. Just repeating what is being reported, not that much right now. But the trials are suppose to start in Sept. And everyone around here are looking forward to them. Not for the 'excitment' but for the laws that are sitting in Boston right now. Depending on what the outcomes is on all of the cases, there are something like 10-25 laws being held and will be based on the results. So we have a ways to go. The censis here in the Pioneer Valley is that the rape charges will go away. And none will get jail time. All will get some kind of probation and possible angry management classes and maybe community service time. But right now, we are hearing that each will be tried separately. But that could change. The 3 minors are looking at community service and classes and probation. Nothing much else. The older ones, well... who knows. I also read that the defense lawyers may ask for change of venue. But again, who knows. It hasn't been determined yet if a jury trial will come out of this. It has been reported that none of the 9 are signed up to start school anywhere in western ma yet. And school starts next monday here. As i understand Carl's mother and family (little 11 yr who hung himself last year here) are reported to be in contact with the Prince family. But they are keeping a really low profile and that they are possible not in area anymore. But again. no one knows and it's all just supposes. I believe the trials are to start towards end of Sept. As soon as i know when, i will let Pete know so he can tap into the news reports. and he can update everyone. Not me.

No matter if you had sex in high school, its not okay to call some one a slut. teenagers have sex, and we cant stop them. chances are the girls calling her a "slut" were just as bad if not worse.

IM SOOO SORRY FOR THIS...SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRL WHO DID NOT DESERVE THIS...SHE DESERVED SO MUCH MORE...

THIS IS CRAZY!!! I have been reading your comments and all i can say is WOW. Ya, I hate what those kids did to phoebe, but calling them the same things that they called her is NOT gonna make it better. And statutory rape for 17 and 18 year olds for having sex with their girlfriend who probably consented it, is stupid. In high school people are dating people that are older than them or younger than them all the time, and you adults don't DO ANYTHING about it until it involves suicide or breaking "IMPORTANT" laws. I bet more than half of you dated someone older than you when you were young so don't be such hypocrites now. You probably had sex or did even more stupid things then sex so just shut the fuck up and just because she slept with like two guys does NOT mean she is a slut for GOD'S SAKE. ok and R.I.P. Phoebe, you were a beautiful gir.

The charges should be no less the murder ... that's exactly what it is to me. Teacher and staff .. also would be convicted for helping the murders .. as they let it happen .. thus helping the young murderers.

Wish I would have been there. I never tolerated bullying around me. I'd become a mad woman and they would of had to watch their butts.