Weird Teacher Watch: Lucia Carico Fired for Stabbing Student 7 Times

Ah, good times, good times.

*headdesk* Un-frickin'-believable. And to think, when I was in school, you only had to worry about getting paddled by the teacher.

WOW! That must have been one potent fart!

I will have to let my fiance read this as a scare tactic.

Let us remember, she worked in an ALTERNATIVE school. I'd say that passing gas was the straw that broke the camel's back. She should just retire. Obviously, she's done.

Wow. I don't know what's scarier; the fact that they were willing to give this woman her job back if she completed some sort of course (How Not To Stab Your Students 101), or that even after she refused the condition, there was STILL one person that wanted her to stay! What was the reasoning?

"Oh c'mon guys... she only stabbed him a FEW times, and it was only one student, let's keep her."

*laughs*

This teacher has nothing on the nuns I went to school with! Yeah, I agree, how could they, why would they, ever consider letting her teach again?

She was right in the first place, and she's right to stand on principle. The kid was being disrespectful and disgusting. Kids are too frequently allowed to do whatever they want and behave however they want, both at home and in the classroom. If we want to complain about the decline in moral fiber of our society, and the increase in younger and younger kids dropping out of school and committing crimes, then we have to examine how our society is trained. Kids, especially older kids, need to understand there are consequences for their actions, and that sometimes they are more serious than being put in "time out". And they need to understand that people in positions of authority need to be respected. I bet that kid doesn't disrupt his class again by being a little obnoxious snot. And he probably won't end up stealing cars or mugging old ladies. If he didn't learn, then she didn't stab him enough times.

I still remember some of the jackass kids I went to school with, and I am surprised something like this hasn't happened sooner and with greater frequency.

So, "Voice of Truth", you're saying that it was right of her to stab the child? To physically harm, cause assault to the kid? If you are seriously condoning this sort of behavior, who are you to lecture on moral fiber?

Yes the kid was out of line, should have stopped making a joke about it when instructed (if he couldn't control it, he should have asked to excuse himself to the bathroom), but there was absolutely NO call for physical abuse, let alone repeated stabbings.

It was obviously something else much deeper that was getting to her and caused her to snap. Kids farting in class is annoying but not enough for a teacher with no history of violence or anything towards the kids to just attack and stab the kid.

I don't know, VoT. Yes, the kid was obnoxious. Yes, (although I would never condone this kind of violence against a child) he probably had it coming.

However, I seriously doubt that this teacher shanked her student 7 times "on principle". She wasn't taking a stand. More like he just tweaked her last nerve and she snapped. I can't picture this lady, with no history of violence, coolly deciding to stab the boy because she felt morally obligated.

Also, being pen-shanked by a "little old lady" might cause him to hate little old ladies in the future, or lash out every time he lets one rip for fear of bloody retaliation lurking around the corner. I'm just saying! Ya never know.

Congratulations for tthe teacher. the brat deserved it.

"She was right in the first place, and she's right to stand on principle." ?!?!

She STABBED a student! Come on!

I cannot believe you equated stabbing someone with realistic consequences a kid could expect for being obnoxious. Ridiculous.

I know I am going to get ganged up on for this one. I don't think the teacher should have stabbed the little bastard. I wish she had slapped the little f..ker in the face a few times. These punks say and do pretty much what ever they want in classrooms any more. If you have a teenagers ask them what goes on? And in alternative high schools, God help the teachers. Sorry that's the way I feel, a mother of a 15 year old. Happy St. Patrick's Day!

crazy old bat

Thanks Pete,

The look on this woman's face pretty much sums up how I feel most mornings!

Good for you, voice of truth and Sandy S. !!
I can't believe there are people here that condone this kind of nasty disgusting behaviour from this brat, we are not dealing w/ a small child here, he is old enough to know what he is doing. I'm sure she warned him several times, I read that he did this more than once.
Most likely he has been disrupting and annoying her before and is hard to control.
She must have lost it for a minute, she should have just dragged him to the principal, although I don't think they would have gotten someplace there. If any teacher told me that my child did this in class, he would get slapped silly at home too, and put on house arrest until he learns to respect others around him.
This stuff smells too, some people get a gag reflex from this kind of filthy behaviour.

when I was at school in China, my teacher used to hit my head with his book or tear my ears(not too hard), occasionally throw the chalk on me, but never stabbed my arm....

if I fart like this...I don't know what would happen.

Teacher are human beings, let's forgive them

This the upside world, now we have teachers attacking students and not so long ago we have heard some news about students hitting teachers. So, next we are gonna have teachers against teachers? God´s sake!!! what is gonna happen in the future then?

In driver's ed, taught by a phys ed teacher/football coach, the teacher punched me in the arm while we were using the simulators. He was right on principle BUT i'd been driving a car around that required keeping one foot on the brake and one foot keeping the engine above idle to prevent a stall. (kid in our family learning to drive = they get the beater car. which is fit and meet fora teen. and safer.)

I don't know how my father found out, but he had words with the teacher and the school. Mostly because he believed male humans should not hit female humans, no matter what the aggravation. and more especially a football coach versus a 16-year-old girl.

Charlotte Britton should be fired for even suggesting that the teacher is re-instated. The stories of bad judgement calls from the school lately is extremely concerning... Perhaps the teachers should be psychologically evaluated once a year to make sure they aren't going to freak out and ... Oh, I don't know - stab a minor?

Voice of Truth is most likely a troll, or some dumbass that needs a stab or 7

What happen to common sense?

I guess most of society is sick to death of punks and bad asses doing what ever they want. Decent people are not setting back and taking it anymore. From some of the stories that are coming out in the news lately people have had enough. Decent people are fighting back regardless of common sense or consequences. Like I said, I wish that teacher would have slapped the little bastard several times in the face. I bet those little darling will think twice before they shit their pants in her class again.

Wow I am a little taken aback by some of the posts??? First of all farting is not in and of itself a reason for ANYONE to stab you, most especially your student. You have these kids bursting in to High Schools with guns taking out teachers and students alike and this TEENAGE BOY thought farting was funny??? So the f what? I think this is more in line of this teacher losing her f'n mind.Now don't get me wrong I know a teens idea of respect these days, and all that but I am sorry if I was the parent of this teen First and foremost she'd be paying medical expenses, secondly she needs to go ahead and retire. Who knows when a soda burp might REALLY send her over the edge.

When I was in what is now called middle school, I had a classmate who kept farting in study hall.

The teacher warned him twice to stop, but of course he did it again.

The teacher made him walk outside and sit at the edge of the lawn looking into the class and had the rest of us stand at the open windows and make fun of him.

Good times...

Okay, Okay, teachers should never stab their students. I still think that she should have slapped the little bastard several times in the face, called his mother in for a parent teacher conference and than Bitch slapped the Mother.

"Happy St. Patty's DayEveryone"

How absurd! This I address to the detractors; how would you respond to such blatant disrespect?! Where do "professional" and human part ways? This despicable behavior by this juvenile is multiplied many times - mostly due to a permissive system that deifies these individuals rather than pressing the discipline that will serve them, and the general society, in the coming years.
There may be extenuating circumstances, but the information available to me indicates that a spoiled, self-indulgent, child has provoked, and endangered the career of, a dedicated educational professional.
Educate the child.

voice of truth and Sandy S, I can't believe what I am reading. Grown adults (I assume, though it's hard to tell based on your idiotic comments)actually condoning the use of violence against 13yo student! So, according to your logic, it would be OK for a student to stab a teacher, if the student didn't get their way? WTF is wrong with you people? What a great thing to teach a child. Teach them it is fine to use violence, to settle a problem. I could see if this teacher were physically assaulted, but we're talking about a *fart*. Call the principle, send him to the office, give him detention, whatever, but you DO NOT STAB STUDENTS, you freaking morons! People like you should be chemically castrated, or IF you have children (which I doubt, seeing as I don't know who would want to reproduce with your kind) CPS should immediately be notified, & your children placed in foster care. For 2 reason. 1, who knows what type of injury you would or ALREADY HAVE inflicted on them for the most trivial of offenses & 2. So you cannot poison & damage their vulnerable little minds.
Shame on you, you ignorant, filthy, pathetic, degenerate, idiots! You are both completely disgusting, FOOLS!!!

Cheeky Chucky, WoW slow down tiger, take a chill pill. Most of what I posted is joking. No one said it's okay to stab anyone. You said that. Calling people names just shows who is a moron and I am not talking about the little bastard in the article. So take a deap breath let it out and go for a 5 minute walk. Man O Man, You're scary!

@Sandy S.
"Decent people are not setting back and taking it anymore."

First of all it is not 'setting back' it is sitting back.

Second, just wait until one of you morons decides to stop as you put it, 'setting back', and then gets their ass handed to them by someone you call a 'punk' decides to not take your violent crap and actually decides to react in a self-defensive manner.

Violence by authority figures teaches nothing to immature kids.

You are an adult and a professional, you should know better than to resort to violence when it is not needed.

Hope some 'punk' gets a ko on your stupid ass when you decide to put a hand on them.

@Sandy S

"No one said it's okay to stab anyone."

By implying support for the teacher's actions, you are saying it is okay for that teacher to stab that student in this situation.

She was only trying to help him release some of that pressure.

if it had been my kid, i'd have killed the bitch. then, when it hit the news, half you morons who are defending this idiot teacher would make comments defending ME. jesus.

I wanted to add it is a little foolish to say just because this woman had NEVER done anything like this b4 does'nt mean its ok to start stabing students! If she can't handle kids today farting SHE NEEDS TO RETIRE!

The kid was being obnoxious, he deserved to be reprimanded for his actions. He was being disruptive, clearly he was doing it on purpose if it was with vocal accompaniment. But, even if it wasn't purposeful, if it was some medical condition, he was still being out of line by making a vocal track to go along with it. So, yes, he deserved to be punished. But, that punishment is usually a detention and a trip to the school councilor, or something like that. And, if it's a medical condition, treatment. A call home would have been fine too.

But physical violence? That's not a realistic expectation we ought to give people. Because, you take two lessons from corporal punishment: that you get punished for your actions and that violence is an acceptable punishment for actions. We breed more child abusers by abusing children. It's a ridiculous standard to set, and one that we ought not allow in society. Not only do they abuse children, but they also harm adults. They punish anyone with violence. But, violence is never called for, there are almost always better ways of dealing with an individual (obviously if someone is coming at you with a katana or something, then it's an excusable action, but still not a moral action).

Besides the utility of the action, there is the obvious moral component. It is never moral to harm someone. To say that it is moral is a rediculous standard. Why would it be? How can you justify that? There are four purposes of punishment: incapacitation, so they do not continue to commit crimes; rehabilitation, so they can reenter society; retribution, so we can balance the scales of justice; and deterrence, so that future people do not want to commit the act. These are all weighed against each other in any sentence, sometimes some are omitted, because they are not utile in that situation. We don't need to incapacitate someone for speeding, but we need to deter them and get retribution from them so that they repay society for breaking the rules. Stabbing someone for farting is clearly not justified under these rules, it over retributes, so the scales of justice are, still, unbalanced. Sure, it deters, but is farting that important to deter? The other two are just ignored in this calculus, they don't exist. That's why corporal punishment is not allowed. They are just kids, we need to teach them how to act. We don't stab them for breaking the rules they don't understand.

This teacher clearly did not understand simple social convention and respect for humanity. He deserved to be fired, he will probably be put in jail for his actions, which constitute assault and battery, a felony under any state's laws. It's ridiculous that a felon could be rehired because that was the only blemish on his record. It's inexcusable for a man who works with children, a man who acts as a mentor -- or, should, at least. I hope this man gets put in jail. He should have sent him to the office, not to the ER.

The so called student was pushing buttons. He was trying to aggravate the teacher by "just" staying under the threshold. How far under the threshold or how close? Maybe just close enough so that the administrators say it is nothing or have no rule to deal with it. Do you want this kid in your work place "pushing the buttons" of coworkers, suppliers & customers. He'll look around and see what will do harm while not triggering a response that will come back to them.

I kind of agree with SOOBS.

With 36 years teaching one has to ask if this was "in character". If it is not "in character" the the chance of it happening is remote, especially with remedial training.

Is this "in character" with the kid. Yes. He was in an alternative school. He can learn that you can PUSH BUTTONS and ruin a person forever, while he gets a chance at redemption. What a beautiful lesson. If he learns that lesson, I hope he works around you all. Have a nice day :)

If psychologists say that your basic personality is formed by 5 or 6, then we know who she is & who he is. Who would you rather be around?

This teacher's supporters are making it seem like the kid did something evil or unusual. The way you describe his "despicable" behavior, you make it seem like he was groping her or a student or something. My god, talk about blowing a juvenile thing out of proportion. You need to put it in perspective, you sound ridiculous patting her on the back.

As many scenario's and percentages get thrown out there still does'nt take away from looking at a case on an individual basis. Do I think this teacher should go to prison? Of course not. Though suppose she had stabbed him in the eye or the lung as opposed to where she did, suppose she even somehow KILLED him? Then I think some tunes would be sung a little differently. I don't think her intent was to kill him.
Still he is a teenage boy, they tend to test boundaries and limits,act obnoxious, fart, burp, dissrupt class, show-off try to get a lauph and be the class clown. Just beacuse on this particular day this particular teacher snapped does NOT make it OKAY! Maybe the boy was a total JACKASS. STFW? He did'nt put his hands on her, he DID'nt cross that line SHE did. That in and of itself is no example to set.
Who has'nt had to wait behind some a** in an express line in the grocery store with 20 items in a 12 item or less line. That aggravates me, so i guess because I have no record and am a proffesional I can stab them with my pen b4 I write my check? Of course not.

Not long ago a student was charged with felony assault with a deadly weapon for accidently hitting a transit policeman with a snowball. Now, stabbing a minor with a pen seven times equates to "unprofessional conduct". This snowballer could go to prison for two years. The daffy teacher was offered her job back. Its never simple, is it?

So where do we draw the line with obnoxious behavior in the classroom? Should students be allowed to masturbate in classroom? How can anyone teach anything when you have a three-ring circus going on? School doesn't only teach math, physics or biology, but norms of behavior in society as well. Let me give an example : Say Johnny Teenage Fartboy is summoned to court (as a witness). And let's assume he cuts one loose while on the stand. I can predict with 100% accuracy that he will spend the night in jail for contempt of court. While in jail, he continues to be obnoxious by farting. So he gets raped good and proper by his cell mate. He didn't get the point the first time around (that was the deterrence aspect), so he had to suffer and learn it the hard way because he went against all norms of decency.

@ Joe Moron ur scenario was ridiculous, and in case u are'nt actually a troll, might I add. Let this woman teach ur teens if u have any. Ur talk about decency??? Is it decent to STAB someone??

"the school board voted 5-1 in favor of her firing"

I think they should of fired one more person.

The retard kid should be suspended from school for being a dummy and the teacher should be fired.. everyone has their limits, I guess she reached hers.

J,
You're a moron!!! No, people are not taking this shit anymore. More and more people are taking their lives back. Look at some of the stories. The asshole breaks into the guys house? The Pedophile that stalked the young man? The 67 year old guy on the bus? Just a few examples. No! the teacher Should not have stabbed the little Bastard, WE KNOW THAT!! WE all know a teacher can't slap the little F...er. I was joking to be funny, but you wouldn't know what that was? Am I violent Hell YES, if any one hurts my family or I saw a Child, Woman, Man, or Animal being abused, you bet, I would step in and do what ever it took to stop it. Oh and thank you for finding my spelling errors. You can go back to bed and put the covers over your head it will be morning soon.

@ Sandy S

Your posts, lack of insight and illogical argument demonstrate your stupidity.

I appreciate you calling me a moron, but I suspect you feel that you have no real way to defend your position other than insult someone and then come up with scenarios that are far beyond the scope of this story in order to try to support your initial position.

Anonymous at 9:19 has it right:
"But physical violence? That's not a realistic expectation we ought to give people. Because, you take two lessons from corporal punishment: that you get punished for your actions and that violence is an acceptable punishment for actions."

Your version of joking comes up very short, and it is my suspicion that you are likely the only one who thought you were joking in your initial post.

It wasn't a spelling error I corrected by the way, you didn't even get the saying correct, you used a completely wrong word. Calling me a moron is fine, if you have anything to use in order to back it up. In this case you don't.

Have fun living your life until you decide to get violent with the wrong person who ends your life in return. Violence is not the right answer for situations such as this, and is only a viable solution in self-defense circumstances.

*fart*

This society is seriously screwed up. Our government run schools are a joke. The younger people have no respect whatsoever for their elders, the towns across the border are some of the most dangerous places in the world, and we're over in the middle east try to tell other people how to live, (Iraqi freedom, what a joke that is). Everything we buy is made in China including a lot of our food, mothers drowning their kids, infidelity all over the place, trash programming on television, watch two idiots beat the hell out of each other in a cage for entertainment, breakdown of the family unit, trash movies from Hollyweird, the dollar headed for serious decline, a government that's out of control...and we're wondering what's wrong here? Come on folks, look at this trash heap we live in.

Sorry for the rant but that's how it is...

J,
Were you just trying to prove to me and TCR viewers that you're intelligent? You keep going on and on about nothing. You are a moron.!That doesn't make me stupid, “ it just makes you a complete moron.” Get a life!!!! Go fight with someone else who cares what you have to say, I don't. Pull some wings off of butterfly's.
I told you I was joking, but you just can't keep your moronic mouth shut to me. You absolutely repulse me, Don't reply back to me, you are just weird. I found all these people that believe the little bastard got exactly what was coming to him. And now that I think about it, I'm glad the teacher stabbed him. J what are you going to do about that? Insult me? Post another nasty comment? “OH NO” LMAO, LOL What a MORON!!!!!!
Voice of Truth said
Here are the other people that agree with the Teacher! LOL, LOL
Stray_Mongrel said
Johnson said:
Just Me said:
Lets not Use Sense said:
Joe Moroni said:

I'm with you Krunch! What a fun story! Can't WAIT for the video!!! Good for her because you know the snot nosed brat deserved it. And if you're going to have a meltdown, what better place to have it than in a room full of other snot nosed brats. Watch the flatulence in class, kids! You just never know...

Rob said,
Well Rob someone had to do it and I'm glad the nice old lady did the job. You know Rob what would have made it even better, is if J was in the same classroom as the kid farting and J was picking his nose and the teacher stabbed both of them in the arm. That way she could have killed two birds with one stone. The End.

Just for the record, there were two people calling themselves "J" on this thread. I posted the first couple, and the one labeled "JJJ." I didn't clarify that earlier because the other J was saying things equally level-headed as my comments. Sandy, seems like you're being a jerk for no good reason.

J,and J,
you seem to have your nose shoved up everyone's business.
You and a few others on TCR are always telling the rest of us how smart you people are,( except you second to the last J) correcting spelling. Our opinions are not important because they are debating yours and you people said that you're right and our opinion are not important or intelligent, because you and the other few (rocki, bill-boy, j,j and a few more) viewers say so. And If you say so than it must be true. We don't even have to ask you people tell us all the time.
This is for all of us that have been attacked by the self proclaimed intellects for having our own opinions.
J,J, and you know who you are!
“GO PISS UP A ROPE! AND” WHEN YOU'RE DONE “GO SCRACH YOUR ASS ON A BROKEN BOTTLE!”

From: All of us on TCR

To: The only opinions that count

Whatever happened to sending the kid to the principal's office and putting him in detention? A lot of these kids in alternative schools are ADD, ODD, ADHD and a host of other acronyms--it's hard for them to control themselves which is why they are in alternative schools. She could have just sent him to the bathroom for heaven's sake!

EXACTLY Reid!

Honestly, Joking aside. She doesn't like teaching anymore, she hates her job and she's sick of the kids. She definitely doesn't need to be around children any more.

I can't believe how indoctrinated some of you people are in here, on top of all the fallacies used.

Humans are not special and they are above any type of acts, this is precisely why these acts still and will continue to occur. At the heart of it all, we are still animals.

I would also have to say that you need to cut the bullshit of thinking violence isn't appropriate. If there were something more effective and efficient, the child would not be continuing his actions because it would have worked already.

Being ignorant and denying a punishment because you confuse subjectivity with objectivity is pretty terrible.

OMG was my initial reaction when I read this. But I totally agree with voice of truth and Sandy S. The little bas**rds get away with murder and it's just not good for society. The kid that got stabbed was probably a right little s**t.

Thanks Lisa, he is a punk and kids are out of control. Look at that 15 year old Treacy that stomped 13 year old Joise's head into the concrete. She text something to her friend, his girlfriend about his dead brother? You should read it, it's on TCR. It makes this story look like a fairy tale. Also I clicked on you're name do you know anything about the Tea? If you do could you post a little info?
Thank You,
Sandy

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Happy April Fool's Day!

OMG thats horrible im like screaming im scared to pass gas now!!!!

Anger issues much! haha thats weird!

This is ridiculous. This is a lie. I know this person for many years and to run a 30 year teacher into the muck and mire is outrageous. She has dedicated her life to teaching and the truth will come out.