Anthony Kyser Choked to Death After Being Caught Stealing Toothpaste from Pharmacy

• Oh thanks, i appriciate that!

• I work for CVS, and I'll admit that maybe the Store Manager went a little overboard, BUT THE IDIOT WAS SHOPLIFTING!   I agree that toothpaste is not worth a human life.  But shoplifting is shoplifting.  I cast my vote for let the Manager go, but make him take anger management classes.  Maybe next time someone steals from his store, he'll stick with knocking their front row of teeth out rather than killing them.

• the manager's name who murdered him is Pedro Villanova and he lives in Naperville Il.

• All of you advocating for manslaughter are off your rockers. Bottom line is he WAS breaking the law. I don't care if it was a tube of toothpaste or a Mercedes. It's a crime. Lots of people in this country work hard to support themselves and and no one has the right to take from any one or any business. I don't care if CVS can afford a tube of toothpaste. Millions of dollars are lost to businesses each year because of shoplifters. The toothpaste belonged to CVS, NOT Anthony. If he wasn't in the wrong, why run and why resist? CAUSE HE KNEW IT WAS WRONG. Good for the manager. Anthony's dead because of his own stupid actions. No sympathy here. And @ Alexxis, tell his mom and her spokesperson/lawyer to let it go. She raised a thief and NOW SHE WANTS JUSTICE? PLEASE. Law enforcement and the criminal courts have more important things to worry about other than a stupid criminal who got killed instead of paying a few bucks. Good. One less thief on the streets.

• wow. you people really dont understand the law at all. this man was a theif and the manager is a killer. they both should be viewed in the same light for what they both are. criminals. the law should never dicriminate. thats why our country is the way it is, broken and unsure of itself in the right course of action to take. we just keep making excuses and exceptions.

• okay, seriously...kan we stop commenting on this already?!? We already had his memorial! hes dead and gone! the damage is already done to my family && I! Soo seriously, PLAESE stop commenting on this! CAN THE OWNER LIKE DELETE THIS ARTICLE? PLEASE!

• I think the manager should get some toothpast for free and then be choked. That would settle the score.

• Yeah, he did bring this on himself! But for goodness sakes,it was toothpaste. Toothpaste! Nothing expensive, monetarily valuable, no rare necessity or nothing like that-it was just toothpaste! It still wasn't "that" serious!I could understand a lick or two(nothing too abusive/deadly unless the thief fights with this much force) to to get the toothpaste back,defend from licks by the thief,and maybe even to show disgust with him stealing but death? I am sure the manager did not mean to kill the guy though so I am not sure about manslaughter.But killing the guy over toothpaste was too much. I am willing to bet it was an accident but still!Either way, I feel sorry for the manager and the target.

• So, the officer came, and saw this and left? Shouldn't she have arrested him, or did she just leave him there for them to finish him off?

• I'm sorry, but his ex wife stated that "Why would you even chase them" to me, this gets me more then the guy being choked, why the hell wouldn't you chase after him? He stole, it's a shame that he died, but he stole. Stealing is stealing, ya he probably needed the toothpaste, but he stole from someone else. I honestly don't feel bad about any of this. I'm glad that the cops are claiming that the death was an accident, because for all we know, the guy didn't mean to kill him. And to me, if someone is stealing from you, that give you a right to restrain them until cops arrive, if the thief dies in the process, then it's an oopps. You take back the stolen items and move on.

• Alexxis, I don't think anyone here honestly believes your uncle deserved to die. What we're arguing about is whether or not the manager should be held legally responsible. I know you and your family are hurting, why wouldn't you be? But let this be a lesson to you. Do better than your uncle did, stay out of trouble, and no one will have to forcibly restrain you because you're breaking the law. I have nothing but sympathy for you and all of those who have been affected by an admittedly senseless death. However, the most senseless thing about it is why your uncle chose to take that risk in the first place. JohnD's problem is that he has no tact, but his opinion is still valid. No one's saying your family shouldn't feel a loss, they should, you loved him. What random people say here on the internet won't change your memory of him and doesn't invalidate anything you're going through. @Janene, so you're wanting the same National Guard who was shooting looters after Katrina to patrol the streets of Chicago? What makes you think THEY wouldn't have shot down Kyser? They killed people for looting diapers. It doesn't matter. Stealing is stealing.

• for the people who ask why i had too do a paper on him..i had too do a paper for my current issues class..and it had too do with sumthing recent in the news..and i chose too do my uncleee !! because like i keep saying it was fukin unnecessary for his death!!!!!!!!! JOHND YOUR A FUCKIN DOUCHEBAG...STOP FUCKIN RUNNING UR MOUTH!!! PIECE OF SHIT

• That manager should be charged with manslaughter. He slaughtered a man for a multi million dollar company he doesn't own. What the fuck??? Yeah the guy was a thief and a piece of shit, but did he deserve to die???? Of course not. I hope that manager falls on a knife..... Face first lol

• At a different CVS in Chicago, a manager beat the living hell out of my close friend for trying to steal a permanent marker. I don't think that the money or the goods is the question here. I simply can't imagine what kind of mind set would lead to anyone thinking that shoplifting justifies hospitalizing someone. CVS has all the money it needs. These employees must think that stealing is such a sin that it justifies murder. I've been robbed, cheated and hustled like everybody else, and to be honest, I got over it. Life goes on. Except now Anthony Kyser is dead, and the sick bastard that killed him is still walking around on two legs, free as a bird because somebody never learned how to share. Honestly, what is more important, a human life or five bucks? To label Anthony a criminal is to refuse to recognize that he is a human like any other, and to do that is to value toothpaste over human life. It is psychotic, pathetic, and apparently ingrained in way to many people. I hope johnd burns in hell, and the CVS on 2600 S. Pulaski ought to burn to the ground. This kind of thing should not be tolerated, and the police response (or lack there of) proves that they can't be trusted with our safety and security. For those seeking closure, google Oscar Grant.

• for anyone who said. whats the big deal if the criminal stole a minor thing. how would you feel if that same person had gone into your house and stole something. no matter what it was. would you still be saying no big deal. I have a ton more property.? or would you on the other hand be mad that it was taken from you. remember that if it was stolen. someone owned it. the store owner didnt have to sell stuff. he or she could have been in a different line of work. for everything that is stolen from a store. the owners have to make up the amount of money that the item was worth in base cost by raising the cost of the other items in the store. otherwise they go broke and their employees end up having to look for new jobs. because the owner lost so much money. he or she can no longer afford to have a store. nor have folks working for him. as for a tube of paste. it adds up. just like dollars do. after a while. it becomes alot of money that is gone, thanks to thieves like him. that guy crossed the line. in old days, they would not have imprisoned him. but chopped off a hand or yet, hung him in the village square as a example of what not to do. in fact they used to do that alot in medieval times. remember the tale of the horse shoe nail and the war. this is for those who brought up the race issue. why?

• Hey I worked for drug store and that's there m-o dont let the thief get away restrain them and that's what he did he was a puppet for cvs the male employees ecspecially he knew what he was doing remember im in the in side looking in that's how they train there puppets but the sad part ur on ur on manager that thief drug user that black man didn't deserve 2 die everything in the store is insured the manager should pay for what he's done if he doesn't pay watch as God as our witness there's going to be alot of murders out there and dont be surprise if its ur family member...Only God can Judge man make mistakes......

• You see, the more I think about this case, the more I start to question it. If the off duty officer left because he/she felt the employees had it under control, then the man must not have been struggling that much. And if the man wasn't struggling that much, then why did three people, along with the officer, not notice that this man was fighting to breathe?

• You know what I don't get about this case? Whether the officer was off duty or not, don't you think that the he/she should have taken over for these employees while waiting for on duty officer to arrive? Are you that worried about your time off that you can't help a citizen make an arrest? I blame that cop just as much.

• RIP-Anthony Kyser It's not ok to steal, but it's not ok to kill either. The BIBLE says an eye for an eye...he could've just stolen his sneakers and called it even if he wanted to serve justice. Once he left the confines of the store he was no longer acting as an employee. It was manslaughter. If there were so many people restraining Anthony-why couldn't each guy grab an arm and a leg? As far as the officer-that's just like watching a street fight and not doing anything about it-shame on you. At least if justice had been served correctly the store clerk wouldve been considered a hero and the thief would have probably gotten probation for petty theft. Now he'll more than likely lose his job as most policies state if you encounter a thief not to be a hero-that is a matter for law enforcement, and he may do time; and an unsuspecting family has to bury a loved one for a senseless crime. The corporation will more than likely end up paying the family-which won't bring him back so everybody still loses. I'll pray for everyone.

• what's normal? Every asshole out there is crazy- it's how you flex your sanity that makes a person seem normal.... most people- if forced to watch themselves in day to day life would be shocked at how selfish and narrow they are. I really can not stand most people because I hate their lame drama and I have little respect for people in general because of how they live. Eh- i pity them too...

• Bheobe, that's just one of the many things I've been through. I don't consider myself alive, I'm dealing with five different diagnosis at the same time, so it's as if I'm still suffering. That's why I often question myself as a parent. Eh, maybe one day I'll be normal like everyone else. That's what I pray for anyway.

• Jesus Deborah- it's amazing you're still alive. Seriously. Is everything in your life such a struggle for life?!!! Wait- don't answer that--- I'm in my safe-bubble forgetting there's a world out there

• @Tom I completely agree. I'm going to get a little personal here simply for the sake of argument and do so without going into too much detail. I lived with an abusive man for 8 years, needless to say, I know what it's like to be choked. Whether in water, someone choking you, or having food stuck in your wind pipe, your body immediately reacts. It is a fight or flight situation. Has anyone ever watched a hanging? You will notice that the person will jerk in a violent manner. This man wasn't fighting off the men who were subduing him, in fact, this man was fighting to breathe. It's natural human instinct. I guess you people think this man is supposed to lie still while they choke him to death.

• Jo H from ND? is that your name?

• in my line of work, in school, we HAD to do a story of deep-personal loss and it HAD to be real.... it was important for understanding to the industry--- who knows WHY she had to write the paper- it is none of our business... but it does explain why she was looking at our comments- SO BACK OFF THE GIRL! can you just not comment? ----There are plenty of other stories--- go weigh in somewhere else on TCR

• what does that even mean johnd?

• She had to do a paper because she's flame.

• let's omit that last Bheobe post... wrong story... not sure how THAT happened (my bad)

• Hey I know a guy who accidentally blew his berries off (idiot-itis) but he still uses the stem with pride

• like salt on a leach... here we go...

• Wait... Alexxis.. you had to do a paper on your uncle's death...? Um... why?

• Bheobe: the only reason i found this site is because i had to do a paper on my uncles unnecessary death. As i was reading this thing, i seen the RUDE AND UNNECESSARY COMMENTS ABOUT MY UNCLES DEATH! NONE OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY FAMILY THAT U GUYS HAVE TOO SIT HERE AND SAY HE DESERVED TOO DIE!!! that guy johnd is seriously rude and umm he needs to go kill himself..! that dude guy: seriously thank you for everything you have said! && thank you for sticking up for me! seeing all this unnecessary comments hurts me and my family! but i think this is all i have left too say..ive been hurt enough...for everyone that thinks my uncle did not deserve too die OVER FUCKING TOOTHPASTE thank you! and for all the people that have been saying nice and sweet things thank you! FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YALL CAN GO FUCK YOUSELFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUDE MOTHERFUKERS!!!!

• Pete's right, we all get our say, even if it's out of line or WRONG to say anywhere ever.... it's not Pete- it's POSTERS THAT NEED TO EXERCISE DISCRETION. You can not FORCE any body to have common sense ( interesting- I may be able to apply that last line to alot of stories today :)- less brain work for me)

• "had". R.I.P.

• PS., you seem much worse of a person then Kyser, regardless if he is a stealing scumbag. He has respect for life, unlike you.

• johnd - go fuck yourself. Pete - Like I said fair enough, but at some point it's not freedom of speech just fucking trolling. I like the site, for what it is worth. ;)

• Dude, the whole concept behind this site is to pillory bad guys. If you think opprobrium is inappropriate and would rather we all hold hands and sing Kumbaya, then you're lurking around the wrong blog.

• We try to let people have their say, Dude, even if you or I or anyone else doesn't like it. Once you start whacking comments you don't like, it gets into a whole tricky thing about who gets to talk and who doesn't. And I don't wanna run a site where only people who agree with me get to talk. I guess it's the same as the whole 1st amendment problem. You gotta let people say shitty things for the freedom of the decent people as well.

• What I can't understand for the life of me, is WHY Pete allows these little snots continue post such deragotary bullshit? Is it for website hits? You enjoy the provocation? Everyone can appreciate the freedom of speech, but is it really fair to have some little nobody's here badmouth the relatives of a person who died a tragic, unwarranted death? Just curious.

• Alexxis dear- you really shouldn't be reading these posts- I know they get bad and that will make you super angry. Your anger will impede your grieving. So maybe think about NOT reading posts? For yourself and your family?! - there are jerks that say mean things about other people, yes even recently murdered ones, that are just hurtful and unnecessary. MOST people who read your uncle's story do NOT think he deserved to die. This is a devastation for your family. Don't read useless remarks. There is plenty to be upset about with what is happening to your family. Do not needlessly anger yourself with assholes.

• johnd your seriously a fucking prick! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how would u feel if this happen to one of your family members????!!!! i seriously do not think u would be saying half the shit you are saying!! ALL IM SAYING IS KARMA IS A BITCH!!! for all the people on here talking shit about a dead guy!!! Dude, i apprecaite wat u said!! People who actually knew pops knew he was an amazing friend,famiy member, watever u want too kall him! SO WHOEVER WANTS TOO KEEP TALKING SHIT FUK YOU!!!! LIKE I SAID BEFORE...KARMA IS A BITCH!!!!!

• JOHND, AND EVERYBODY ELSE I NEVERED SAID HE WAS A PERFECT GUY CAUSE HE MADE A WRONG A CHOICE IN LIFE AND HE PAID FOR IT EVEN ITS WAS IN JAIL OR BY DEATH IT STILL DOESNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE A MAN PUT HIM IN A CHOKE HOLD AND DID NOT LET HIM GO EVEN WHEN HE SAID HE COULDNT BREATH THERE WAS SO MANY DIFF WAYS TO HANDLE THE SITUATIONS AND THE MANAGER TOOK IT UPON HIS SELF TO HANDLE IT IN HIS OWN WAY HE KNEW HE SHOULD HAVE NOT FOLLOWED HIM OUTSIDE SO WHEN HE DID HE MADE THE CHOICE TO TAKE IT IN HIS HANDS EVEN IF ANTHONY WAS LIVING IN THE STREETS OR WHERE EVER NO MAN HAS A RIGHT TO DIE LIKE THAT HE WAS A STEP FATHER TO 3 BOYS A UNCLE AND A SON OF A MOTHER WE CAN JUDGE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WE READ OR SEE BUT AT THE END "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE US" I DONT THINK THIS WAS A RACE ISSUE BUT THEN AGAIN I WASNT THERE LIKE I SAID BEFORE AND ILL KEEP SAYING IT NO MAN HAS A RIGHT TO DIE LIKE THAT AND IF IT WAS SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU YOU WOULDNT BE SAYING THE SHIT YOU SAYING NOW TO SAY YOUR GLAD HE IS DEAD YOU NEVER WISH DEATH UPON SOMEONE ELSE AND FOR THAT YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD

• A human life is a human life, nobody has the right to harm or kill anybody. The manager is not even aloud to leave the store to chase somebody. Toothpaste or not, the manager is liable for the death of this man. The Chicago police are worst in this country and can not even control the streets from gun violence. Maybe the National Guard need to step in and take over. I question the fact this man is of darker skin color, that this is the reason nobody is doing anything. Which is sad people, real sad. Who is to judge anybody? Stealing is wrong, but we should leave it to the most supreme judge of all. Lets not take it into our hands. Always have mercy to others and one day God will have mercy on you.

• angie b, ANTHONY WAS A PUNK BITCH PETTY THIEF. DON'T PRETEND LIKE HE WAS WORTH ANYTHING TO SOCIETY. HE STOOD ON THE STREET CORNER, GRABBING HIS DICK ALL DAY, RARELY HOLDING DOWN A JOB, SO DON'T PRETEND LIKE IT'S A HUGE LOSS TO SOCIETY.

• @angie b, Someone close to you was a theif. Again I say, Why is everyone making it alright to steal something? As I said before, two wrongs don't make a right, however... It boggles my mind to know end, that a CRIMINAL, a Theif, a crook, a robber, who dies during a robbery, is suddenly the good guy. No wonder our country is going to Sh!t.

• ITS SO AMAZING HOW PEOPLE SAY THATS WHAT HE GETS MUTHA PHUCKERS AINT NOBODY PERFECT IN THIS WORLD I HOPE ONE DAY YOU,FAMILY,FRIENDS, OR SOMEBODY CLOSE TO YOU DONT GO THROUGH WHAT THE FAMILY IS GOING THROUGH YES ANTHONY WAS WRONG WHAT HE DID AND THAT HE KNEW BETTER, BUT FOR HIS LIFE TO BE TAKEN AWAY LIKE THAT THAT WAS REAL PHUCKED UP THE MANAGER SHOULD GET CHARGE AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS INVOLVED A DAMN TOOTHPASTE WAS NOT WORTH BEING KILLED OVER THINK ABOUT THIS LETS JUST SAY IF THIS HAPPEN TO SOMBODY CLOSE TO YOU AND THEY DIED ARE YOU GOING TO BE SAYING GOOD THATS WHAT THEY GETS SO BEFORE YOU DUMB AZZES SAY SOME DUMB SHIT THINK ABOUT IF IT WAS SOMEBODY CLOSE TO YOU

• First of all I don't feel that the manager had to go to that extent for some tooth paste it wasnt like he was protecting a life he obviously over reacted to a petty situation. I don't care if he was guilty of stealing they have guidelines at every job you have for a reason if he had followed those guidelines this would have not happened. He need to go to jail because he took a life over a three dollar tube of toothpaste trying to protect a company that makes millions they wasn't go miss that toothpaste but that mans family is going to miss a loved one. He should not get a away with this he needs to know he can not take the law in his own hands. Read more: http://www.momlogic.com/2010/05/shoplifter_strangled_by_cvs_emplyee_after_stealing_toothpaste.php#ixzz0ngvRDqzs

• I don't think he "deserved" to die, but he knowingly took a certain risk and unfortunately for him and his loved ones, suffered some major consequences. If he was white, I'd say the same thing. "You mess with the bull, you get the horns." And yes, we all make mistakes and misjudgments, but he was a grown man. He should have known better than to steal anything, regardless of the reason. I've never been arrested or even come close, and *knock on wood*, don't think it'll happen any time soon because for me, being a law abiding citizen isn't a struggle...call me crazy. If there were three other people holding him down, why are you putting the blame entirely on the manager? Clearly everyone was trying to subdue him until authorities arrived. If he wasn't fighting so hard to get away with his, albeit petty, but a crime nonetheless, he probably wouldn't have choked. So no, no one deserves to die over a tube of toothpaste, but he should have thought about the repercussions of what he was about to do that day before walking into that CVS. I feel for the family, but they should be pissed at him, not the manager who's had enough of dealing with thieves thinking they have the right to take whatever they want. Also, to the person claiming "what if it was a 10-year-old"...that's a truly preposterous notion. If the kid was 10-years-old, of course they wouldn't be put in a choke hold, that wouldn't be a fair fight.

• You know what would truly add insult to injury? If this man died with money in his pocket that he could have PAID for this damn toothpaste with? I don't understand it.

• It was an accident-but the manager should not have gone and chased the guy. I'll be surprised if he's still working for the CVS he was the store manager for. Most retail chains do not encourage attacking or even chasing shoplifters-for several reasons: the likelihood of something going terribly wrong (as happened here), the store getting sued blind by the victims, or the manager getting shot or otherwise hurt. Most of the time they're instructed to note all the details, call the cops, and wait for the cops to do their job. If they don't show up, too bad. A tube of toothpaste is not worth a human life-or in this case, two. The victim and the manager-because if you killed someone accidentally, I guarantee you won't just "get over it." It will haunt you for the rest of your life personally and professionally.

• Since I knew Anthony (Pops) of course like his family I want justice served in his name. Reguardless if he stole the toothpaste or not he shouldn't dead right now. For those who didn't know Pops you were missing out on knowing a great guy. Granted he had previously been convicted but he made mistakes just like you and I we all are only human. The only perfect person died for our sins because he knew we would make mistakes. I lived nexted door to his ex wife's parents and was always at their house or with them because her son was my best friend. In all the years I knew Pops he was always smiling. No matter what you needed he would try to help you as best as he could. He played basketball in the back yard with all his kids' friends. If any of us needed help or was using the wrong technique in basketball he would help us and teach us the right way to do it. He would go to the park and do whatever it was that we wanted to do. Did he deserve to die over toothpaste? Hell no. Does anyone deserve to die over toothpaste? Hell no. To those of you who think "he got what he deserved" are sick ass fucks. You need to put yourself in the position of his family and friends. Did any of you even consider what they are going through? Honestly, no you didn't because if you did you wouldn't of said the harsh and hurtful things that were posted. In my personal opinion since the off duty police officer left the scene because she believed things were under control should get some kind of punishment along with the manager and the three men who help Pops down. The officer saw that the manager was choking Pops, how was that having the situation under control? If anything she should have one- called for back up and two- arrested the store manager for battery or attemped murder then arrested Pops for shoplifting. If those things would of happened Pops would be in jail but he would still have his life and his step children would still have their Pops. Being locked up is better than being dead reguardless to who you are. Should the manager be charged with manslaughter? Yes, it is because of his irrational thinking and acting that a 34 year old father is dead. The manager literally killed Pops with his bare hand. I don't see how any of you could possibly think that is right. I do agree me being a white teenager if this was a white person things would be completely different. Finding out Pops was dead on Mother's Day just about killed Ann Marie. She now has to go on everyday wondering how things would be if he were still here and wondering about the words that were left unspoken. I'm sure his family feels the same way. He was and still loved by all of us. And he is greatly missed. No one will replace you Pops and I'll be taking something sponge bob to the scene of the crime very soon. The last thing I have to say to all of is... "What goes around, comes around." Karma is indeed a bitch and you will get everything that is coming to you for talking shit about a dead man that you never personally had the joys of knowing. I love and miss you Pops. Rip we will all be with you smiling again one day soon.

• So, did he have money in his pockets for the toothpaste? I don't think he deserved to be choked over it but I have to wonder, did he think nothing would come of him stealing toothpaste? Did he think it was okay because it's just toothpaste? hmm....

• @Dude, "I rewad this story on another site, and the witnesses said Anthony pleaded multiple times that he could not breath!" If he can make noise, he can breathe. If you're being choked, truely choked, you won't make any noise, especially pleading for them to let go, or that you can't breathe.

• Dear johnd, Please do the World a favour, and go shoot yourself, you insesnitive prick. Sincerely, Dude

• Johnd: That was gross, whatever you think of this story.

• Dear Alexxis, The world is better off without your uncle. Sincerely, The World

• I rewad this story on another site, and the witnesses said Anthony pleaded multiple times that he could not breath! Manslaughter - and with the publicity this is getting in the web, I highly doubt the man will not be charged in the end... atleast thats what I hope, because the family members like Alexxis deserve justice. Apparently, not only was he restrained by multiple people, there was an off duty officer pointing a GUN at him. Why would the manager continue to hold him in a choke hold, and is he such an idiot he could not feel the mans body go limp? If this was a white teenage girl who got choked to death, would we have to for one second guess wetather manslaughter charges would have been pressed automatically by the Chicago Police? Yeah, I think not... and Alexxis, don't listen to the trolls here. They are just trying to get a reaction, since they have nothing going on for them in their life.

• this is seriously a bunch of crap people are talking! THIS IS MY UNCLE THAT WAS KILLED OVER A TUBE OF TOOTHPASTE..AND U GUYS SAYY HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED????!!! seriously, how would u feel if this happen too one of your family members?! i think you would get a little pissed if u seen the comments i just seen about my uncle! I HOPE THE MANGER OF THIS DUMB CVS GETS WHAT HE DESEVERS! && I SERIOSULY HOPE HE DONT JUST GET TOO WALK AWAY AND BE FREE WHILE MY FAMILY && I ARE SUFFERING!!!!!!!!!!!

• It is really a shame that a man haad to die cause it didnt want to have bad breath...and what worst it that he died cause he could not afford toothpaste. Which in prison is free... and now the manger wont be chargered.. Our leagl system sure does pick their favors dont they...

• Another thought, now if this was a 10 year old, stealing from CVS, would he deserve to die, since many of u are suggesting that if he hadn't committed they act he wouldn't have died, as if he deserved it.

• Manslaughter! As a previous employee of CVS Pharamacy, we were instructed not act on instances of theft due to the possiblity of being harmed, && in my particular store we had security guards, so the manager should not have taken it upon his self to use physical force on a patron that decided to steal a hygiene product. He was simply trying to be super man && be came a m urderer instead, he should have charges brought against him. There's no justification for his senseless act, but it shouldn't have cost him his life. And I agree, if u are being put in a choke hold, there's no way u aren't going to fight to release urself from it!! be reasonable people.

• there is a line to REaction... and none of us was there to see when it was crossed.... . but I say manager crossed it when he had THREE OTHER MEN to hold the theif and still kept cutting of blood to Anthony Kyser's brain....

• Well apparently stealing toothpaste in America cost peoples life's if is dealt by the mob. Heck even islam nations would just cut one of your hands and send you away with a warning. That is more humane that killing the guy over toothpaste.

• @Bheobe, manslaughter implies that one is acting in a reckless manner and ends up accidentally killing someone. An accidental death is just that, a death that was completely by accident. The manager wasn't acting recklessly. He was REacting to the recklessness of the thief. Like I said, the thief wrote the check, the manager cashed it. Pretty simple.

• Are we completely forgetting that the man would not have been choked to death, had he not been STEALING toothpaste? Two wrongs don't make a right, obviously... It actually doesn't take as long as one would think to kill someone via a choke.... It depends on whether or not it was an air choke, or a blood choke.... blood chokes work within seconds... Where as air chokes may take in upwards to 2 minutes. And seeing as how he was struggling to the point 4 people had to restrain him, tells me it was probably an air choke. No doubt in my mind, both parties were wrong. I just don't appreciate that everyone looks over the fact that the criminal was STEALING something... it doesn't matter what it was, its the principle behind it. Had he not been stealing anything, he wouldn't have gotten choked.

• This is fucked up. Excessive force over toothpaste...

• @ Bianca this IS manslaughter. He killed that man In a court of law, by definition :Manslaughter: the killing of one human by another without implied intent to do injury Manager may have not meant to kill but he did- THAT is manslaughter. I'm not saying this is a malicious homicide. However-if you kill someone with your bare hands- it's manslaughter ; accident or not @ Judy Smith not with death!

• So CVS and every other store should just let anyone walk out with a tube of toothpaste? How about soap or prescription drugs. They can afford it, so let's not bother trying to protect it.

• How would this be manslaughter? The man wrote the check when he shoplifted, the manager cashed it. If a drunk driver plows into you and they die, they don't charge YOU with manslaughter, do they? Yeah, it might seem minuscule because it's a tube of toothpaste, but in the end, he was stealing. The manager was probably fired for going to the extreme that he did, but I don't think he deserves jail time just for protecting his store. Get a fucking box of baking soda and use that if you're broke. Don't steal and expect things to turn out okay.

• This went way over the top for a tube of toothpaste. People who steal toothpaste and run aren't a dangerous menace to our society. I think the police should've "saved" the thief from the guy choking him. Their failure to do so is just as sad as choking somebody to death for stealing. Charge the manager with manslaughter and the police with gross negligence.

• Maybe he was just trying to brush his teeth and ran out of tooth paste.

• Black guy discovers the original definition of "posse".

• What a stupid fugin question: "So we ask you, dear reader, was this a justified homicide, simply a terrible accident involving good people who went a bit too far? Or should the manager be hit with manslaughter charges for killing a guy over a couple worthless tubes of toothpaste" If it was your son, brother or father would you want them to die over a tube of toothpaste? I am sure there are some lowlife trash talking people on this site that would deem it excusable or justifiable, but they too will get what is coming to them in the end. No human life is worth a tube of toothpaste.

• I'm just wondering, did they put the toothpaste back on the shelf? I will never look at toothpaste @ cvs the same way ever again!!!

• Fortunately choking someone to death has been outlawed in the city of idiots. Just like handguns. More to follow.

• If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Don't want to get hurt, pay for your stuff.

• I think the only organization worthy of blaming/suing for this would be the police. An officer SAW the manager with a guy in a choke-hold and just left!?! It was her responsibility to arrest the guy! And she didn't even let the store manager know how dangerous a choke hold is?? I'm sure the manager did not INTEND to kill a man over some toothpaste.

• @Russell Have you ever been choked? Have you almost drowned or lost O2 TO YOUR BRAIN? Do you know why the POLICE cant use the choke hold anymore? Its because it is humanly impossible to stop resisting while being choke. Your body will kick into auto pilot and fight or flight against the force that is causing your possible death. I sincerely hope you do not comfort that type of force.

• <i>"and if you want to live, the best thing to do is too stay out of circumstances that could get you dead. "</i> Really? Stealing a tube of toothpaste is a death-defying act? By that logic, we shouldn't drive cars either. I'm sure you are more likely to get in a car accident than be strangled to death over toothpaste... Hell, being a pedestrian is probably more of a "circumstance that could get you dead" than petty larceny.

• If that manager would have died in that struggle instead of the shoplifter, they would have gave the dude death. That toothpaste doesn't belong to the manager it belongs to CVS. That was a modern day lynch mob. He didn't pose any threat to anyone in the store. Everyone has or has a family member that has stolen something. If that was your family what would you do, or would you say "shit happens". Better hope that that man doesn't have family that cares deeply wronged about this or we will be blogging about the managers unfortunate death...

• You didn't say if he was resisting or not. If he thought the toothpaste was worth fighting for, then he got what he needed and we have one less thief to deal with. As I've said before, we have to conclude that these thieves will hurt or kill anyone that stands in their way. If he wasn't resisting, I doubt it would have taken four or five people to restrain him. So I gotta vote to let the manager go.

• The thing about breaking the law is that you put yourself at risk. No one asked this guy to steal from the store. The Manager and the owners have the right to protect their property. I am sure that the guy choking the other dude, did not intend to kill him, but as they say; "shit happens" and if you want to live, the best thing to do is too stay out of circumstances that could get you dead.

• Thief got what he deserved.

• oh poopies... "paste" PASTE!!!!!

• &#64;Johnd it's cvs pharmacy dude- I think they can spare a tube and be okay. no NOT the same authority as a cop! and also - he really could have gotten the past else where- there are ways: Church donations, violence shelters, be a dentist work fairs, collect change from water fountains, charm a desk attendant at a hotel, ect

• When you resist arrest, more force has to be used. It doesn't matter whether it's a cop or a store manager arresting the guy, because if you've broken the law, their authority is the same. It's a shame that this dumbass had to die over a tube of crest, but he made a choice walking into that store, he made a choice by running, and he made a choice by continuing to resist arrest after he was tackled. If shopkeepers in the worst parts of the Chicago can't protect their livelihoods, then there will be no shops in the worst parts of Chicago.

• Yes the manager should get charged with manslaughter. People generally pass out once they have been choked for so long and I'm sure the manager felt his body go limp. Its rediculous if this man walks away with no charges but I am not saying that the manager should go to prison for a life time either.

• One less criminal.... way to go manager... you have done what most retail people would love to..

• Yeah, he killed someone, that's not an accident! Over a tube of toothpaste, what a shame.

• manslaughter it has been proven time and again that using a chokehold can cause serious harm, you are cutting the oxygen to the brain. no doubt in my mind, the manager might have been a little hyped up with the adrenaline, but he killed someone... I feel sorry for all parties involved, it was a stupid mistake.

• sorry: manslaughter, he killed him. Four men holding him down?! THIS IS EXACTLY the GLORY Richard Allen Hill was speaking about!!!!!! I hope they are proud of themselves NO HONOR IN THEIR ACTIONS please refer to my post on: Reader whose daughter was killed Bheobe: Posted 05/10/2010 at 12:37:09 PM

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