Victim's Mom on Why Killer Needs to Die
Elisabeth Mandala, High School Student Who Wanted to Smuggle Illegals, Ends Up Dead
Friday, May 7, 2010 at 1:49 pm
UPDATE: Whoever killed Elisabeth tried to make it look as if she'd been in a car accident. But Mexican police believe she and two men had been beaten to death at least 10 hours before the crash was staged. See update after the jump...
Elisabeth Mandala was a popular senior at Kempner High School in Sugarland, Texas. But she also had a private side that showed a jones for both money and adventure. Unbeknownst to her mother, she was working as a stripper. Then she disappeared late last month.
Elisabeth was secretly working as a stripper. She also wanted to learn how to smuggle illegals.
Her mom believed she was headed to Mexico to learn how to be a coyote, shuttling illegal immigrants across the border into the Good Old USA. While police were searching for the girl, she posted a note on her Facebook page saying she was in Mexico and would be back soon.
But the country isn't a place for little high school girls these days. With the non-stop slaughter between smuggling cartels, it's come to resemble Fallujah on Free Liquor & Ammo Night. And it seems Elisabeth got in way over her head.
She was found dead in a truck along with two older men carrying fake IDs. Whoever was responsible tried to make it look like an accident, but Mexican police say all three were beaten to death. And since most of Mexico's murders go unsolved, there's little chance we'll ever know what happened to her.
On her Facebook page last month, she wrote that "fame is looking for me." It has found her, at least in her tiny world of Sugarland, Texas. But it won't be the kind she can enjoy.
UPDATE: Elisabeth is believed to have been murdered 10 hours before her body was found in a staged accident.
Elisabeth, left, was beaten to death along with two other men who were carrying multiple fake IDs.
So say Mexican police, who found Elisabeth and two men -- Dante Ruiz Siller, 38, and Luis Angel Estrella Mondragon, 44 -- in a crashed truck near the village of Mina. Whoever killed them tried to make it look like an accident. But they weren't the brightest murderers.
A large rock was found on the truck floor, believed to have been used to hold the accelerator down to fake an accident.
But police still don't know why Elisabeth was with the two men. Siller, a merchant, and Mondragon, a cab driver, were from the outskirts of Mexico City. Their relatives don't know why they were with Elisabeth, or why they decided to travel toward the U.S. border. Both men were carrying multiple fake identifications.
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172 comments
Elisabeth Mandala is my big sister and I dont know why she wanted to go to Mexico, but she did and i miss her vary much.
Elisabeth Mandala is my big sister she was 18 yaers old and I realy do wish she had never had gone to Mexico.
Probably just a stupid slut who thought she was worldly. Mexicans are the lowest of the low and will screw anything that moves and think nothing of killing a woman. Women are just pieces of meat to them.
Wonder if she went there to do porn,maybe that was what she was talking about with the fame comment. Just saying
Yeah, that seems clearly like the most appropriate response or concern to a murdered American, Karma. She obviously "had it coming to her." Nice job.
WHAT goes through people's minds?all i can say is thank God she wasn't able to bring any more of them over here.
What kind of teenage girl is smuggling illegal and working as a stripper, most girl her age are worried about boys. Seems like a typical teen to me.
lakdjf: You're right. And sociopathic commenters are way more frightening to me than identifiable criminals.
some of these posts are sickening. just because she made a mistake in judgement does not mean that she deserved to be brutally beaten and murdered. rest in peace and may god help them find her murderers.
THANK YOU flaka and a friend. These people have nothing else to do than hate on someone they dont even know. they must have some emotional problems. i will pray for them <3
Guys I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but none of you really knew Elisabeth.she was my friend.even the media doesn't know the story.she wasn't a stripper and she wasn't a coyote.she didn't have fake boobs she wasn't stupid like some of you call her and she wasn't trash.Elisabeth was a beautiful girl loved by many just please leave her alone.
I just cannot imagine how terrified this young woman must have been when she came to realized she was never going to see her family again. I mean this poor soul was BEATEN To DEATH. Regardless of she went looking for trouble doesnt justify what happen to her. When you're young you dont think about the consequences. I live in a border town in South Texas and we hear about stories like this almost everyday. As a matter of fact, going across the border to party, eat, drink, see the doctor etc. is the norm for us. Now you couldnt pay me to go over there. Its sad really and the violence is coming over to this side now. Mexico has always been very unsafe only know it has gotten way out of hand. My heart goes out to the family and may Elisabeth rest in peace.
This is a tragedy for her family, obviously. But the fact that this girl aspired to be a coyote - who are among the most despicable criminals on the planet, who exploit the downtrodden, desperate folks south of the border and who are known for routinely robbing, assaulting and raping and murdering their "customers," - suggests that it's no great loss to society.
MAN..YALL DDNT KNW ELISABETH LIKE THAT TO BE CALLING HER SH*T..JUST CUZ SOME OF YALL ARE WHITE AND RASIST DNT MEAN YALL GOTTA TAWK DOWN ON HER..I HOPE SHE GOES AT NIGHT TO YOUR CRIBO AND PULLS YALLS LEGS OFF..ITS HER LIFE..NOT YOURS..DONT JUDGE PEOPLE WHO AINT EVEN SH*T TO YOU..YALL JUST HATING ON HISPANICS..IF HER SISTER WOULD SEE THIS SH*T..DAMN..SO YALL NEED TO JACK THE FUQCK OFF AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO INSTEAD OF TAWKING SH*T ABOUT A GIRL WHO AINT EVEN HERE TO DEFEND HERSELF..~fLAKA~
Ive been reading some of these postages and some made me sick and some actually acted like humans cause,we all makes some wrong decisions.I read some till i got sick of them and ive got something to say to some of them..First one;Geminmist 74 mothers cant keep up with every move of a child and if your mother knew evrything about you then she must of come from another planet we are humans.One day you will eat those words but i bet you are the type of person that wouldnt admit it,But i wish you luck in your fairy tale life..NEXT;henry krinkle,It takes a stupid person to know one.I guess you are smart well to judge someone like youve done makes you stupid......NEXT;you go girl i like you.....NEXT;ISHIBA,you are so sick get a life your love life must be really bad to comment on the dead get a blowup doll then you can be happy......KALICA;mothers dont know everything and you know that quit judging..TOOT;but your opinions hurt people But,it takes a person to say they stand corrected.NOPE;you should not bring god into this.Thats one thing you dont mess around with.......MOET:you said a mouth full i liked it You are a good person.....ANON;so you know alot about whores do you.You are calling your onself that or hell who knows you probably cant get no one.......Talyn rahl;you dont have to be upset just keep your nasty opinions to yourself and leave jesus out of it.you are really miserable in your life and all these words will comebackto haunt you maybe threw your family..Good luck to her family.
good girls do not wear dresses that expose the cups on her bra aaand she is unable to sit down in lest she show her other hair-do. She's not projecting an image of innocence-- J o h n I can tell you that.
DO YALL FUCKING KNOW HER?! i dont think so. so stfu and stop talking shit about people you have never met or become close to. DAMN
Hopefully some young person out there reads this article or hears about Elisabeth Mandala's story and decides NOT to do whatever stupid scheme they planned.
R. LIP said: how many of you scumbags give a shit about other girls being exploited by the men of every country
Posted 05/15/2010 at 09:39:25 AM*************************This is really what it is about, society is breaking down, the evil is speading. LOCK up your daughters and sons! Teach and protect your children from this rapidly declining h*ll hole.
There is not such thing as a "pure" race. Whites or caucasians are a mixture of English, German, Scandinavians, Balkans, etc. If there is a "mongrel" race, it is the caucasian. A recent megalomaniac claimned that the only pure race was the Aryan, and he committed suicide before the barbaric Russians could catch him and skin him alive. History remembers him as Hitler. Those of you who criticize people on the basis of race or skin color are nothing but neo-nazis. As to Elisabeth Mandala, those of you who think she went to Mexico to become a "coyote" don't know what you are talking about. A "coyote" works hard and it is no job for a teen girl. If you were trying to come across, would you place your life and your money in the hands of an 18 year old former stripper? Her comment that she was going to Mexico to become a "coyote" was just a ruse. This girl went to Mexico to obtain DRUGS and smuggle them across. Millions of dollars' worth of cocaine and heroin are smuggled across the border by good-looking young women. Elizabeth could have easily claimed to be one of many college students or high school students who go to Mexican border towns for wild weekends, and the immigration people would have allowed her to come through easily. She could have swallowed condoms and used her body cavities to smuggle millions of dollars' worth in heroin and cocaine. Unfortunately she contacted the wrong drug dealers, or her companions were already wanted by the drug dealers for unpaid deliveries. There is also the possibility that the drug dealers just took the money that the trio had with them and murdered them, after they had fun with Elizabeth. Drug dealers don't like to work with amateurs. I feel sorry for this naive young girl. But let this be a lesson for all those who are thinking of messing around with Mexican drug dealers.
@ cccc Borders are natural. Animals mark territory and defend it. Medieval villagers knew & communicated the boundaries of their village to their young. Tribes of all sorts did the same. Borders are natural.
Offa's dyke was an border created to keep the peace between the Welsh & Anglo-Saxons. It stymied cattle raiding, which had the potential to start a war that no one wanted. Because the dyke certainly was not going to stop an army. But if you slow a herd of cattle enough, the rustles can get caught. and the chances of getting caught are high. You not likely to rustle.
The Berlin Wall was created to keep people INNNNNN! They used machine guns too kill people. If they had enough people, they could have used pickets to shoot people & not build a wall.
The Great wall? The great wall kept China (& its' people) intact. It kept China from being dismembered by Mongols. It didn't always work. But it worked long enough often enough so the people are still there. Mongols raided because they could. There was no pretext. They just wanted shit. It was a case of might making right in their minds. The wall worked so well that when the nomads couldn't go south, they went west straight into Europe and shaped its' history.
Until we have one world gov't (potentially a good thing) brought about by plebiscite & mutually agreed upon laws (and not force or ruling class trickery/fiat) borders are needed.
Obama's aunt is an illegal and she is living on welfare. Michelle Obama made 130k a year or such and they (Obamas) can't afford to help family?
Mexicans are not caucasians
"When he suspended the 1824 Constitution, civil war spread across the country, and three new governments declared independence: the Republic of Texas, the Republic of the Rio Grande and the Republic of Yucatán." Texas left. As far as the the rest of the Southwest, Mexico went to war again & although, when France & England told the Mexican govt (dictator) that it would not be prudent over a border dispute.
My belief is that the only Mexicans that have a right to automatically become U.S,. citizens irregardless of any immigration policies are those & their descendants that were illegally kicked out in the 30s during the depression.
Given that you come at it from the whole mestizo angle (Mexicans are not caucasians) and are playing at guilt, I am not buying. As far as different tribes argument, tribes move around. I am sure as hell certain the border is artificial to those tribes. Even people that farm mobe around if any area is not densely populated. So those tribes could move 10 miles form Guatemala into CHIAPS because their tribe had been there in the recent past except the Mexican Army & police would kick their ass.
Biased? African-americans. Try this on for size. Why should a recent legal immigrant let us say from Ireland or Japan pay reparations to the ancestors of african slaves merely because their skin is white? Some descendants of slaves want to put everyone through the ringer for reparations, when they are the descendants of the victim & victimizer. And some of the people they want to pay reparations had nothing to do with the victimizing, the only reason they would pay is because they are white. They could have come from some village in Nowhere's ville in Europe and had nothing to do with any slave trade. It could very well be that some of the slaves, who came to the Americas, raided a village one week & sold the inhabitants and the next week ended up being captured and sold themselves.
My heart goes out to her family and her friends it is so sad to have to leave this world like that and so young, I hope and pray that all young girls will wake up and see that this can happen to any one please I am begging all young boys and girls to wake up this can happen to you too, don't think it can't I hope that you all will listen to me and others out there listen to mothers and father that have lost there child or children, or love ones stay away from drugs gang memebers stay away from gun's your life is way more important that all that bull crap, DRUGS KILL GANGS MEMEBER WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GUN'S KILLS EVEN JAILS KILLS RAPES, SMOKING KILLS TOO so please stop stay away from all of that you are better than that your life is more important than all that trash, all you kids out there need to start watching 48 hours cops Dog snapped these show will tell you what this word is like out there it is not safe I will tell you that MAY GOD WATCH OVER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ........ GOD BLESS YOU ALL Ruthiep.s please stay out of trouble and take care of yourself
Well, what can I said, no to imigration reform law this is what some mexican bring to this country coruption. and nothing else, they do not take adventage of the good opportunity of been here.Her mother is just " una perdida" as the the daughther. As far of race Mexican are not white they are one of the most racist hispanic in the planet they do not like white or black people, the light sking belive that they are superior than others they dislike their one indian blood, and they forgot that they have black in their blood too. Mexican claimed their "Spain" blood but they forgot that they "Spanoles" that came to their country were half breathe part white, and black that's why some of them have a bigger but than African Americans muahahahahahahahahha sorry to said but she had a coming. Their is a place in mexico (Guerrero)all this people are African latino and mix with the Mexican indian but ofcourse they do not admit it they clame Spain or any other bood sahame on them.
If you play with fire, you're going to get burned.
I hate to hear of anyone dying (especially a violent death), but she MUST have known that what she was doing was wrong. She probably felt like she knew what she was doing, and "worldly" since she was only 18 and working in a strip club.
BUT if someone is involved with ANY criminal activity, violence typically goes along with the territory.
how many of you scumbags give a shit about other girls being exploited by the men of every country
Wow I can't belive somthing like this happend wow I fll so sorry for the family who has to got threw it You have my prays I know God is wathing over yall
This is a tragedy for a young woman to lose her life like this. I wish that someone would have stopped her. I believe that money is the root of all evil. The money was the motive and it costs were high, a young life.
RIP girl! I am sorry for her and I would blame her relatives who let her live a life which a normal 18 year old girl should not live. And before I am making any comment, well I went on FB. 1.Her photo on FB is not proper for a 18 year old girl.2.Her double life has been known by at least her relatives or close friends come on...I can see now her sister wall and pictures...she is making a comment: yes we are we turn heads everywere we walk into...and look at the photos... 3. Her mother let her daughter to become a coyote??? 4.She is not Caucasian.
I do not want to be rude! And after all it does not matter.. i just dont like when the news say: white blonde....because I am white blonde, natural, she is not.
To conclude, and this is the most important: RIP girl! Hope the student can manage to graduate...take care students!!!
Well "Mexicans are not caucasians" my great great great grandparents lived in Texas before it changed hands and we want the immigration laws taken seriously and enforced. They were law abiding Mexican citizens who revolted rather than be forced into a class of peons the Santa Anna and the Mexican government wanted. And still today, if the Mexican government wasn't so corrupt and self serving, these problems wouldn't even exist. But they created a class of uneducated, nearly starving peons. Let them rise up as we did back in 1836. Mexico could be a rich land if it could kick out some of the corrupt officials.
This story reeks of poor parenting and lack of values being taught in the home. Dumb and poor parenting often results in said parents' offspring Darwining out. It's not sad; her intentions were anything but noble. I don't care how old she was, she made choices with deadly consequences. It's a pity she wasn't raised better with aspirations to be someone and to contribute to the betterment of society.
John, clarify your point about Guatemalans, it's not clear what you are trying to say. There are probably more Guatelmalans who are closer to pure indigenous than anywhere else in Mexico, although they represent a distinctly different set of tribes than anyone who would have been indigenous to Central Mexico.
Also, if the tone of this doesn't suggest your racist bias "whatever they call it this week lineage. Sounds all very violent to me. Usually they call that rape & genocide. Only it is all the same family" then I don't know what would. You can't just make your point without getting your digs in against other cultures. You have to resort to ridiculing people. It's like mocking African Americans for not being able to control having slaveowner blood in them. Classy guy.
Look, if your great grandparents lived in Arizona before changed hands from Mexico to the U.S., would you really take immigration laws that seriously? I have to say, as much as I am a law abiding citizen because it's easy as an educated individual who doesn't have to scrounge for less than minimum wage and toil in fields, I would probably not in their case. So, making them into subhuman/terrorist/ pariahs for crossing hundreds of miles of desert in the blazing sun with a jug of water and the clothes on your back to grab a piece of the prosperity in their ancestors' land, it's just impossible for me to hate on them for that.
John: Borders are artificial constructs. That's how they- as you put it- "disappear when they are not needed." We create them. They are not natural occurring, as in the case of a cell wall.
As for the Great Wall, not sure why you brought that up. Nor does it matter why the Berlin Wall was built as my point was simply that walls represent an IDEA- whether we like it or not.
What does Obama's aunt have to do with anything? Is she an illegal worker or something?
I asked you to consider being respectful. You aren't being that way. Why do feel the need to personally attack me (rather than my ideas) anyway?
Borders are artificial constructs? There have been borders before people made paper maps. They are natural. They will always exist. Even animals mark their territory. There are just so many examples at any level of society. How did you miss this.
The Great Wall of China although it was not impregnable secured the territorial integrity of the Chinese people. It sometimes failed but that was more due to inside weakness than a wall being impractible. That wall affected European history for 1,200 years at least.
The Berlin Wall was to keep people in not to keep people out. A difference that you fail to understand and don't want to. A wall put up by a leftist regime by the way. Those leftist shot people dead as you MUST remember.
As a budget for 20 years 60 billion is not large for the benefit.
Borders disappear when they are not needed. Until 9/11 the US/Canadian border really didn't exist. It had only existed because of the Revolution and almost didn't exist then.
So an illegal pays their share of SS and the company doesn't not pay its' share? Smack serious beaurocratic incompetency and malfeasance running from an accountant/auditor at the bottom to the IRS head to the established political parties. A whole lot of jail time of it were prosecuted. We should.
Means tested? How come Obama's aunt is in public housing in the Northeast? She came from half the world away. You can't get any further than that.
FANTASTIC comeback Moet!@Ashleesweet? "sweet" girls do not wear dresses that expose the cups on her bra aaand she is unable to sit down in lest she show her other hair-do.
She's not projecting an image of innocence I can tell you that.
Sweet is for LITTLE girls and to maybe be yelled if your buddy lets you borrow his car for a date
John: All land borders are artificial. Biological entities are natural constructs. Not the same.
I still remember the Berlin wall coming down. Walls represent something whether you like it or not.
As a taxpayer, I also do not want to pay for a wall. You criticized my grasp of economics but this is what I understand: We have to pay for the materials to build the wall. Labor to build the wall. Maintenance of the wall. People to patrol the wall for as long as it stands, possibly decades.
It would be much more cost effective to make our companies comply with law. What they're doing is illegal. They are paying zero payroll taxes and creating an underground economy. On the converse, two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. They can do this because in 1996 the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxes.
You might also find this interesting (copied from a 2006 article): "In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education."
Most Mestizos have a Caucasian Y gene & mitochondria from Amerind, Na Dene or whatever they call it this week lineage. Sounds all very violent to me. Usually they call that rape & genocide. Only it is all the same family.
The point of pointing out South Americans (I've already pointed out the Polish OTM), is that many people are coming across the border and we don't know who they are. If we better borders we wouldn't have t go around our cities with radiation detectors for example.
As far as wall or some sort of a functioning border. Fish have scales, cells have cell walls. Without some sort of a border you just don't exist.
By the way, the Mexicans who are not mestizo, how come you are separating them from their kin in Guatemala? That border is artificial to them. There is an insurgency there because they are so happy with your rule.
Incidentally, it's ironic I even can specify being "third generation Mexican-American," considering that my family goes back so many generations in New Mexico before it became part of the U.S. that it even seems redundant to me to count that way. For all I know, they could have been there a thousand years, but I'm supposed to apologize because you think calling you out on your b.s. and stating archaeological facts that you haven't managed to dispute is supposedly racist? In case it isn't obvious to you, the minute people start talking about keeping people out and all the anti-Mexican speech, no one believes that there isn't a racist ideology behind all of that. It's clear people like you get all worked up over paranoia about more Mexicans coming here because you just don't like Mexicans, and your including South Americans in that, I would extend that accusation to Latin Americans in general. So, why bother sugar coating it in any contrived political correctness, just admit it. I don't believe you would be comfortable with an increase in LEGAL Latin American immigration, because you think our forefathers stole this land fair and square, and now it's good for the caucasian races, but not the ones that don't quite fit your program.
John, it seems so inconsistent that you supposedly support the concept of a Mexico-US-Canadian union, but then prefer as a band-aid in the meantime that we spend 20 years and 65 billion developing instead a wall that won't get us any closer to that type of goal. Why not invest all of this energy you apply to arguing for keeping people out towards some suggestions for the former suggestion? As an American born, third generation Mexican-American, I don't want to contribute to that 65 billion. It's a waste of money and hypocritical to boot. We both pay taxes, and I think that idea sucks, so I will always be among the taxpayers on the opposing side of your perspective in that regard.
No, they are not Indians, Indians are from India. If you're trying to say the majority of Mexicans are not "INDIGENOUS," then I think you are mistaken, because they are primarily mestizo. Again, people like you with an underhandedly racist agenda were the first to bring in peripheral issues about race in relation to a murder investigation, seemingly to trivialize her death because she was helping to do something you don't agree with. Stating genetic facts has nothing to do with "whipping you with the race card." It's funny that you play the martyr or victim that way.
Pete, what you said "I'm sure you do have lots of crime related to immigration. But I also think a lot of Mexicans, at least in my experience, are hellacious workers and good family people. So I'm a little hesitant to denounce them entirely as a menace when a lot of them only commit the crime of trying to earn for their families, which is no sin in my book." is quite correct. What I wanted to point out is that there is a difference between immigrants and illegal aliens. These illegals have NO respect for ANY of our laws.
