Josie Ratley Beating: Why Did She Deserve to 'Get the Bitch Knocked Out of Her?'

• Bianca, you couldn't have said it better...  The text is irrelevant in my opinion..  Hyena keeps bringing up the text.... "What if the text wasn't sent?"  So what?  That kid would have done it to the next person... The problem here is the BOY  end of story.. period..  If I wanted to use Hyena's logic, I could say  "Jeffrey Dalmers victims wouldn't have gotten killed if they weren't so friendly.. I bet people will think twice now"  stupid stuff like that...  Totally missing the point and subject.  The boy is the problem.. text or no text.. obviously he's got issues.

• Wow, HyenaKiller !!!!!!!! You really need to grow the fuck up.. No one should get the shit beat out of them, even if they did say something mean. Thats not what we were put here on earth to do. How would you like if someone comes and beats the living shit out of you for the comments that you wrote below and then you almost died??? I know you wouldnt like it and I know that if it was you in her shoes, you would hate to be readings comments like the one you wrote... So If I were you, I would grow up, do some serious soul searching and realize that what you said and how you feel is wrong... 100% WRONG, AND I TRUELY HOPE NO ONE COMES AFTER YOU ASS FOR THE COMMENTS YOU WROTE... Although i could be like you and say you deserve it but NO ONE does!!!!!! GET IT TOGETHER

• She didn't type that Manson did. Sorry. Your response isn't going to win an anti-bullying campaign or help these kids out. Way to role-model. How disappointing.

• Her friend sent the ugly texts- it is completely obvious.  I think you should at least look into it. Bullying is a huge issue that is obviously not going to change with you. It's a world-wide issue that we can change... It is not like world hunger. Fight fire with fire is not going to win here. Sorry.

• . IMO Kayla Manson IS THE PERSON who borrowed the cell phone of her "best friend" (Josie Ratley); used the phone to send offensive texts to Wayne Treacy; & then (even after Wayne noted to Kayla and others that he planned to beat Josie, someone he never met, to death over the texts)-- Kayla Manson even chose to point poor Josie out to Wayne at the girl's school. Kayla Manson is, IMO, a SOCIO-PATH; a drama queen; an attention-seeking liar; a co-attempted murderer -- & she likes to 'play innocent' about everything. It's SO OBVIOUS, IMO, THAT KAYLA MANSON (not Josie Ratley) is, more than likely, the one who SENT THE TEXT MESSAGES. KAYLA's behavior seems to be extremely akin to that of a SOCIOPATH who WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET 'ATTENTION'! KAYLA MANSON is known for being a drama queen who will do anything to anyone or say anything about anyone -- in order to become the center of attention & scandal and she exploited her mentally-ill 'boyfriend' and had him attack her completely-innocent "best friend" -- just for the all of the 'drama' that she know it would create around (and about) her. Just look at all the TV shows KAYLA ran to the very minute her parents set bail for her. When on the TV shows she: 1) displays no concern for her "best friend" (& spends most of the time describing the phone messages and the attack); 2) she "innocently slips" & uses foul language (like it's the way she speaks everyday); and 3) she spends more time on these shows trying to give the "alibi" of "look at my innocent face ... how could 'I' ever be in the middle of this scandal" (a scandal SHE arranged). Josie (the injured 15 year old) was, more than likely, NOT the one who actually sent the text from her phone. Kayla (the conniving 13 year old) most likely borrowed Josie's phone and used it in order to send the text to Wayne. Josie had NEVER even met Wayne (and she knew NOTHING about him OR the intimate details of his family). Kayla Manson was / is Wayne Treacy’s girlfriend; she knew EVERYTHING about Wayne (and his family): she knew what "buttons" to push; and she is known for being an attention-seeker and drama-queen who is willing to watch (and even arrange for) anyone's injury so that attention can be drawn back to her. JOSIE RATLEY clearly DID NOT even KNOW what was going on (behind the scenes) or that (the innocent-faced person who she viewed as being her "best friend") KAYLA MANSON WAS borrowing / had borrowed her phone in order to SET HER UP to get attacked. Nor would poor Josie Ratley have ever even once had suspected that baby-faced Kayla Manson connived all of this wrong -- simply for the ‘drama’ that Kayla had hoped that would then focus around herself (while also creating an opportunity to also make herself into the center of 'attention' all while (falsely) looking like she was "an 'innocent" co-victim' of the entire and horrific series of events). Society had better 'keep an eye' on (the rather silently-sociopathic) Kayla Manson -- just as much as it plans to 'keep an eye' on (the very obviously-sociopathic) Wayne Treacy -- or we can expect even worse tragedies in the future. .

• Most people, teen girl or not, are not cruel enough to use a boy's brother's suicide (less than 6 months after the fact) just to make him feel bad.

• "Why don't you go visit your dead brother?" Not 100% innocent.

• I don't agree with what he did but damn if Ratley didn't deserve it. You say shit like that you deserve to be punished. He did what anyone wanted to do. I only READ this and I thought to myself, that he seemed like the one who got what was coming to her. She bullied him first and with all the people going around trying to stomp out bullying... well HELL he pretty much did that literally. I mean, is there anything more sick than saying that kind of comment to someone?

• That dude should have just slapped her and said "Stay your tongue, wench!"

• touche' Moet lol

• I'm not sure that schools are qualified to provide that kind of psychological help, Paul.

• This girl was a nice girl who didnt understand how dangerous Wayne Tracey was. Wayne Tracey was a nice kid who had an tragic event in his life that he needed counseling for. Who is to blaim, I believe they teach you everything in school thses days except how to deal with anger.

• This girl is a fucking bitch. She sent a text message to this kid saying she was glad his brother commit suicide. This bitch had it coming to her ans she got it

• I absolutely do not agree with what the boy did. Not in the slightest. I do however think that we should be teaching our children to THINK before they do stupid things. Like make fun of, taunt or whatever another person. Because you never know when someone will lose it and beat the holy hell out of you, or light your penis on fire, or go hang themselves. Words affect people, and we should be teaching our children to be FAR more careful what they say/post/email/text to others. Both for their own safety as well as the safety of the other person. How many more teens will be committing suicide this year over harassment? How many more will end up broken and bloodied because someone flipped out over something? Should she have to think about what she says for fear of physical harm? In a perfect world, no. But the reality is, YES she and everyone else does. Because some people are crazy or depressed or broken inside and what they hear can affect them in a way that can have far reaching consequences, like getting your head bashed in or them putting a gun in their mouth.

• screw off all of you. nearly ALL females deserve to be beaten half to death (some times two). at a more peaceful time in this country, when women were kept in their place at home, this sort of violence was much less frequent. give some loud mouth weak bitches who can't hold their mouths shut increased rights and freedoms and they mouth themselves into situations exactly like this.

• Anyone that thinks SHE deserved it is just as much a r-tard underdeveloped ape. Yeah, I called you that, now you think I should be beaten to a pulp? People say things, and you know what, 15 year old's WILL talk a lot of smack. I know, middle and high school is like the most cruel periods of life. I was the bully for a period of time and the trouble maker, but I never ever even if someone talked crap to me ever felt like beating someone down like this. I have respect, if things end up in a brawl, it's not my right to do anything more than put them in their place. If it's fist fighting you want, then you'll get it. But this is total bullshit. Most girls do not deserve a beating. Some may but we don't even know if she really said this. This is all allegations towards her for some smack talk? Anyone defending this low life scum of a child that beats other kids should probably be locked up beside him. That's the problem. He DID commit a crime, she didn't. And almost taking someone's life intentionally deserves an adult trial. Personally, I feel since she has had this happen, sorry that it did, I feel she has been relieved of life's pressures and burdens. She will have lots of support and he'll be rotting in prison really knowing what it's like to be someone's bitch.

• It's really upsetting to me to see so many people condemning this boy and sending prayers and praises to the girl in the situation. I'm not going to say that she deserved to be attacked but it has been reported that the boy had found his brother hanging from a tree not even a year before this incident. She brought that up and taunted him about his big brother's suicide and you all are acting like she is some kind of angel and he is the devil. It's easy for an adult to say he should have controlled his anger but from a teenager's perspective it's gotta be pretty tough to deal with the suicide of your older brother not to mention finding him hanging AND NOT TO MENTION that Josie Ratley was making fun of this fact... That is a tough situation for a child to deal with in my opinion. He deserves punishment but not to be tried as an adult. Hopefully the jury and judge has some common sense on this one... For the people who say "its just words get over it" I hope someday something horrible and tragic will happen to one of your family members and some one will laugh about it or use it against you to hurt your feelings and you will understand how that boy felt. I swear some people are so IGNORANT all these people on her facebook fanpage sending so much love and prayers to such a bully makes me want to PUKE!

• Agreed, Mikedubya. Once you lay your hands on a girl, you're a piece of shit no matter what way you dice it.

• @1ERnurse...I agree. Even if she did text "nasty" comments; so what? (Although there is some doubt that she did.) "Sticks and stones may break my bones; but names will never hurt me". Nothing said to anyone warrants a vicious beating...nothing.

• I have been watching and reading about this story for the past 6 months. None of these kids are innocent. But the worst thing Josie is guilty of is saying mean comments. She can't even remember---is anyone even sure if it was Josie that said it or Kayla Manson, who had been borrowing Josie's phone (this is how Wayne Treacy even got her phone number). Mean while Kayla Manson goes on the TODAY show playing the innocent little school girl that wouldn't say crap if she had a mouth full---yet had no problem saying c*nt(rhymes with hunt)on national television. How about the pictures of Ms. Manson circulating that show her smiling widely as she poses and flips off the world with both hands. Wayne Treacy knew full well what he was doing, he text his friends to tell them what he planned to do and then rode a bike 3 miles to kick in this girl's skull!!! After he savagely beat and kicked her, he again text his friends to tell them that he had "just killed someone." Let's not forget that is was innocent little Ms. Manson that pointed out to Treacy who Josie was! This whole story is sad! Josie, and Wayne will both reaaly pay the price for this incident--when neither of them would know each other if it weren't for Kayla Manson; I for one think that Kayla Manson deserves WAY more than just 30 days in juvenile detention---she is the focal point of the whole story!!!! prior to the beating. Good luck and God speed to Josie, may God help Wayne, and God will see that Kayla pays......

• I work in a mental health facility and have experienced all parts of the spectrum of mental health illnesses. No one fully knows the complete story here, and no one ever will. We aren't able to get inside this boys head and replay what malfunctioned to make him explode. However, this is a HUGE sign that the world needs to open their eyes to what even youth are capable of. All children say hurtful, brainless things. Has anyone lived and not experienced bullying in some form or another? No amount of bullying could constitute such behavior. The bad part of this is that it's not as if he was standing a few feet away from the girl when she mentioned his "dead brother", and he "lost it" and didn't have time to think before he overreacted. This boy was 3 miles away! He went and got a bike and rode it three miles to her school. He also stopped along the way to text others that he was "going to kill someone", and that he was going to "smash her skull", which is exactly what he did. There are so many obvious and unfortunate sides to this story to mention, however I can not close without saying that what is very unfortunate is that this boy has probably shown signs of his explosive behavior that have been overlooked. There are services available for people that are experiencing every and any feeling that exists. People just need to realize that it's acceptable to seek help, even if it's seeking help from a stranger. Anything is better than making decisions that, later you can do nothing about.

• Wow, what a sad situation. I think it is ridiculous for anyone to think that either party shouldn't be held responsible for their actions. Surely, beating someone to unconsciousness is an atrocity, but to say this girl did nothing wrong is almost as bad. If we, as a society, would resume teaching our children that there are, indeed, consequences to our actions, then quite possibly we wouldn't be reading about such terrible situations! What she said was cruel and intended to provoke a response - she just didn't foresee that the response she could get might not be the one she wanted. By no means do I think she DESERVED to be nearly beaten to death, but I do think it is utter sickness to tell her she is without blame. No one I know would attempt to pet a dog they didn't know while it was eating for fear of getting bitten, so why shouldn't she have known better than to cruelly provoke an emotional response from someone who was already in mourning and in an emotionally distraught mental state.

• I've looked into many versions and many stories. From what I'm getting, Treacy's girlfriend borrowed Josie's phone just to get him on the internet. When Treacy replied for her, Josie started bullying him. They exchanged harsh words, nothing was actually personal (The father raping her, abusing her, or dying, none of that was true and of to his actual knowledge) until she brought up his DEAD BROTHER WHICH SHE KNEW ABOUT. Now yes... when name calling you strike at the emotions, but in this case she did not realize what she had done. If it's a mental illness (Which he recieved by seeing his dead brother hanging) there is not much to be controlled. My mother has Bi-polar and she was a wreck, my ex was Bi-polar too and she was just as worse to a point of cutting herself (which she has stopped), but it's an illness. In my eyes~ -My prediction- They will see that he's mental, obviously when she typed those mean words all he could mentally see was his dead brother. (He shouldn't spend life in prison, but should go to a STRICT mental hospital) The Girlfriend~ She pointed out Josie because I'm sure Treacy told her about Josie's bullying so to help her boyfriend get revenge the 13 year old girl supported her BF. (She is only 13 and thinks she loves him, She honestly should just be sent home. All in all, she has lost her "love" and her friend, when she goes to school she will be looked at as an outcast, just let her go on with her life *possibly having to switch schools*) Josie was a young pretty girl who obviously was some what of a bully. Can you truely be a bitch at that age? Personally I would think not, but to strike into the emotions of a mentally ill person only goes to prove that bullying is dangerous. In time we will pray for her recovery and be joyful she is alive. (Josie and her family should obviously get a heavy check from the Waynes with the satisfaction of this boy going to a mental facilty, Josie will recover, she seems like a strong spunky girl, and in time this whole event will dwell in the past) ~To end this I want to point out that at this young age, this little Shakespear play they all acted out, needs to be remembered that we need to help the mentally ill... They are people who are hurting and need our help. Maybe now Josie has developed a mental illness herself? Something this dramatic could have triggered something. We need to get her help once she recovers just like we need to get this boy help. Bullying is also a problem. Many times bullies cause trama that leads to mental problems, then there are times were people get hurt or act into suicide. Parents need to reach out to there kids and protect them and teach them about this. Lastly we learn that there is not clear way to tell your child about "puppy love". At young ages kids need to understand that there is a deeper meaning behind love, dating would seem fine if the kids honestly didn't think they could marry at 15 years old. Talk to your kids, let them know about the birds and the bees, let them grow relationships and make sure they don't take it to far, cause when it comes tumbling down on that kids "first love", mom and dad need to be there to tell them- "There's more fish in the sea, you just need to wait" I pray this turns out well, Goodnight Chase

• @Ride2484, so she deserved it. We dont even know the whole story.

• . IMO Kayla Manson IS THE PERSON who borrowed the cell phone of her "best friend" (Josie Ratley); used the cell phone to send offensive texts to Wayne Treacy; and then (even after Wayne noted to Kayla & others that he planned to beat Josie, someone he had never met, to death over the texts) -- Kayla Manson then pointed poor Josie out to Wayne at the girl's school. IMO Kayla Manson is a SOCIO-PATH; a drama queen; an attention-seeking liar; a co-attempted murderer -- & she likes to play "the innocent" about everything. .

• Ride2484, wow you're a tough guy you can beat a little girl to death. No ones going to talk about your family. Your parents should be a shame of themselves for raising a worthless piece of dog dong like you. Now What?

• If my brother was dead and some girl made jokes about it, i would have done the same thing this guy did. Only i would have finished the job and then taken the life sentence like a man. There is one thing in this world that i would kill for and thats my family

• I think mom should video Josie every birthday and have a court order that Wayne has to watch video and listen to Josie in pain and drawn speech. He should had to relive what he's done over and over!

• @Terry: Not really take a break. Just put more into your reading, and understanding what is being said. No one is saying don't have your own thoughts or opinions. Just police what you are going to say in response to others comments. We all need to voice our thoughts. And that is what a forum is good for. Do people get out of control, most likely. Does anyone take offense? Probably. But that's our God given rights. We can think our own thoughts, have our own opinions and espress them. Unless you are a wacko and express them in a nasty violent way. And if you are interested, there has been another child hung himself due to bullying. The boy's name is: Christian Taylor and this is out of Richmond VA. This happened on Monday. As this has just came out, not sure if Pete saw this. And i'm not sure if there is a lot of information yet. Pete? wanna check into this? From what i have read, the mother had meetings with police and school prior to the hanging. No one did anything. Now, they are investigating! Terry, if you would like to read more information on any crimes and get complete stories, go to TruTV.com Crime library. It has an extensive collection there.

• Anonymous, I have read this story until I am blue in the face. I agree with everything you have posted. How anyone could try and justify a person beating another person almost to death is unfathomable. It's against the law, it's against god, it's against humanity. Who ever defends behavior like this has a flaw in their moral character. I just hope to god that these people don't have children for their child's sake. Anonymous, the point that you have made several times on here that, "Treacy texting Josie first about her father molesting her"; Has gone on deaths ears. These Crazes on here refuse to acknowledge Treacy text message Josie. Like I said before his brother is a SOB for committing suicide in a public place for All to see. Now that's sick, no wonder Treacy is a screwed up mess.

• That's true, Brad. You just never know. I like the Pulp Fiction analogy too, btw :)

• I didn't know that Treacy said that to her. But it doesn't make any difference who started it, what they said, or why. If you engage in an insult match there's a chance that things will get out of hand...especially when the person you're doing this with is a complete psycho...not that the girl knew that but it kinda goes to show you that you never do know. This discussion is reminding me of when Jules and Vincent were discussing the ramifications of Mrs. Wallace's foot message...

• You make some good points, Brad. Here's another scenario like the one you described: You are in a bar, and a guy turns to you and says "Hey, your girlfriend has a really nice ass, I'd love to get my hands on it" and then YOU say in response something like "What?? Fuck off you creep!" and THEN the guy beats you within an inch of your life... ...did you still cause it? The reason I put it like that is because what Josie said that "set him off" was in response to a nasty disgusting thing he said about her dead father (probably didn't know her father was dead, but it's still gross to suggest you're being raped by your parent out of the blue). Treacy initiated contact by texting her phone and he was pretty nasty (not to mention threatening and violent) BEFORE the "bombshell" comment (which wasn't even bad!) that made him want to commit murder. I guess that's where my hangup is. He was a nasty prick, she was nasty back, he goes off the handle. Is it different than if she was nasty out of the blue?

• Well, Candice you dont go around talking about someone died father molesting you eithier. Did she decide to go to the high school and beat him to death? He had it coming to him for talking about her father. Even if she shouldnt of talk about his dead brother it didnt give him a right to beat her to death. Plus the man never hit the women either. We all used the wrongs words once in our life time, but we didnt end up away Josie did from it. ACTION SPEAK LONDER THAN WORDS. Nobody seems to be listening to me. Im not going to argue with you people anymore.

• A few points... Being responsible for something happening to you is not the same as causing what happened to you. I agree with hyena in that she did set this idiot off. What she did DID CAUSE him fly off the handle. But, is she responsible for what she got? Of course not. And hyena isn't saying that. If I'm in a bar and I turned to some dude and say, "Hey your girlfriend has a really nice ass. I'd love to get my hands on it!" Is there going to be a reaction? Yes. Did I cause that reaction? Yes. But am I responsible for the fact that he beat me so badly that I'm blind in one eye, have no teeth, and am bound to a wheelchair? No. The dude with the bad temper is responsible for that. If a teenage girl sends someone nasty texts she is CAUSING whatever reaction she gets. But she is not responsible for the extent of that reaction. It appears to me that this is what Hyena is saying and a lot of you are putting words in his mouth.

• @ Angry Grandma: Sorry. i live in a different state, which i'm glad. i noticed. just wanted to try to set the record straight, which i got messier. *sigh*. it would probably be good to take a break, eh? p.s. those last lines sounded awfully like this story, didn't they?

• HyenaKiller: You are as sick as he is.

• @ Terry: You say you are 15. Can you please tell me if you are/were friends of any of these kids? Michael Brewer, Josie or Wayne? I get the impression you are. Please understand, most adults on here are scared for their own kids. And words become hurtful without meaning to be. I'm not apologizing for anyone or anything said on here. But unless you wish to learn the back lash at stating your not yet fully mutured opinions, then i would suggest you sit back and read what is said and read between the lines. and not interact. this shows you that words do hurt and cause major issues. What (or what not) Josie may have texted (still not sure she did), Nothing that is said in anger should have caused this affair. If you learn anything from this little words of wisdom: Becareful what you say and to whom. You never know when a person is going to go mental on anyone in this day and age of "mental handicaps". Have you noticed that all criminals says they are mentally handicapped? Or they were insane at the time of the crime, but not any longer? These are legal excuses. And as far as i'm concerned, excuses are excuses. People need to stand up and be accountable for whatever actions they do. Like they said in the 70's: Dont do the crime if you can't do the time! Well, if we label everyone Mentally Handicapped, then no one would work. and those that do, would be paying SS payments for someone else and not themselves. Let's solve all of this and put the entire USA on Prozac or someother kind of antidepressant. Then i'll write a book about how the USA proves the entire country is crazy.

• I honestly care less what she said. Should she have said what she did? probably not. But this guy had enough time to cool down while he was riding his bike over to her school to say you know what this is a really bad idea I'm just gonna go home. He didn't instead he proceeded to stomp the shit out of this girl. Fuck him throw the book at him make his ass work like a dog in prison so he can cover her medical expenses instead of passing them off on his family and make him take some personal responsibility.

• first off you dont go around talking about some ones dead brother let alone when you are a teenager, hormones mixed with anger, not a good mix. Yeah sorry you got the shit kicked out of you but that remark was the lowest of all lows, she is lucky she did not day it to some one who could have killed her, not just beat her up.

• Well I wouldnt like it if someone accused my died father of molesting me either. What about what he said about Josie's father? How come it okay for him to talk down on Josie's family, but it isnt okay for Josie to talk down on his family? He was talking about Josie family in the first place. Plus ACTION SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. The man never hit the women, and this was a girl he hit. What about Wayne Treacy? Had you thought of it that way?

• @ Bianca: i was assuming you'd get that i meant repeat offenders and known people, something i considered serious, like calling my mother a whore, and not to death by any means, not a hospital visit. considering some commentators would for something slight, i'm sorry. should have been more clear.and if you consider a 15-year-old a child, then yes i am a child. p.s. how can i beat someone if i don't know what they look like or where they live? and no, i'll not hunt them down.

• Ha ha ha Bianca!! Now that was a good line! ;)

• Words and thoughts are not what wars are made of. What a stupid line.

• Violence is wrong and unfortunately this world seems to put a different value at the violence of words. Words and thoughts are what wars are made of.

• @Terry, "i admit to that i would hurt someone if they disrespected my respectable family." What are you, a child? Adults don't react that way, at least not civil, law-abiding ones. If someone molested or raped your kid, then yes, by all means, beat them to death. But you'd really put yourself and your family through all of this just because someone you barely know SAYS something about your "respectable" family? Do you think it makes you "respectable" to beat people for using words? Seriously, grow up. You can type fairly well, odds are you're smarter than that.

• So she deserved it? If people got beatup like that everytime someone talk about someones family most of us would be in the hospital in critical condition or in body bags. He was the one who was talking about her father abusing her in the first place. So she talked about his family back, so now he knows how it feels to have someone talk about his family. So big deal. I dont really blame her. I would of talk about someone family if they talk about my family too. Plus calling someone dumb over a comment isnt very nice.

• @ anonymous: what are you accusing me of? i truly don't know. i agree that everyone has the right to express their opinion, no matter what it is. and i admit to that i would hurt someone if they disrespected my respectable family. i'm not saying that my actions would be right. in my opinion, she would have been within her rights to beat him. i'm just a very protective and, to some of you, dumb person. and yes i have been following this story since it was first released quite faithfully.

• To neverdiplomatic : As all who have read my words over the past month, I raised 2 kids alone and dealt with stupid crap. I agree about what you are saying 100%. I dealt with bullies, (kids and teachers/principals), tough loved my oldest when he was 16, and dealt with teenage pregancy. I worked 2 full time jobs to support my family. And i'm sure some would believe i'm the one at fault for the above problems. But I didn't kow tow to the " but i have to have these $150 sneakers! everyone is laughing at me". Or the "but mom EVERYONE does it at least once". I didn't stand for anything that wasn't correct. And i don't just mean MY correctness. My kids weren't angels by a long shot. Nor was i the perfect mother. But they had a clean house, clean clothes, food whenever they wanted it and a steady place to sleep. I was strict and i made sure chores and homework was done before the walked out the door (i always knew where they were.) or watched tv. They didn't have cell phones (but no one did back then), beepers, video games, and were not allowed outside after street lights came on. if there was an issue and they needed a ride, no matter the time, i got up and went and got them. They didn't walk anywhere. When they got involved with wrong crowd, i did what i had to. (My son it was drugs, my daughter it was pregnacy.) Status: Son owns own business, married with 2 boys, claims that was the best thing i could do for him. he lived at a boat dock for the summer. (he didn't know that i knew exactly where he was at all times and what he was doing!) Daughter: graduated, got a job, married with 3 more children. And yes, the schools tell our kids all kinds of crap regarding child abuse. I was involved in the 80's witch hunt by DSS. So i am much aware of what they claim is child abuse and what isn't. But if they needed a swift slap of the butte, they got it. I didn't give in the the "norm" then. And with 6 grandchildren, now, i'm told i'm too strick and that "kids are kids". Bull. and maybe if parents were really parents and not "BFF's" some of the stupid crap going on would be prevented. our kids aren't born like this. This is a learned behavior and most of the time it's learned in the home. So maybe parents need to take back control. In the home and in the classrooms. I am sorry, i won't preach to you or anyone. Because i really agree with you. And believe me i could really go one with some of what "our children" should and should not be doing. But they are words and unless parents start being a real parent, nothing is ever going to change. I get so sick of hearing : he came from a broken home! then fix it! or there was abuse in the home, Then fix it! They were poor! Then fix it. As far as i'm concern, these are just excuses and everyone uses them to explain why the "adults" didn't use the brain they were given and allowed whatever happened to happen. then problems arise and the parents are like: Oh my poor baby. He/She had a rough life. He/She isn't responsible for snapping! BULL!!!!! Then comes the race card!!! No going to go there.

• AngryGrandma, video games and tv aren't the problem here. The problem is that we, the adults, no longer hold the power. Our children are told in school that if we so much as raise our voices the wrong way, or dare to take away privileges, that constitutes child abuse and we can and should be reported for it. They are also informed that we, the parents, don't have the right to kick our abusive children out of the house, regardless of how extreme their behaviour is, UNLESS that behaviour is a risk to another child in the home. Parents no longer have any power and children KNOW this; they have been taught that not only do they not need to respect supposed authority figures, but that there are no real consequences to their actions. There's always an excuse they can trot out, be it 'she mentioned my bead brother' or 'my mom doesn't buy me the clothes I need to be popular.'

• I am a betting person, and i betcha if this was someone on here's daughter/son, the fur would be flying. I know if this was my daugther- I would be a wreck. Just getting through each day would be a effort. I can not even fathom what her mother and family are going through since March 17th. And if this was my son-well all i can say is i would be there for the parental support but if he did this (which he did) i would understand (as much as it hurt) he needs to be held accountable. I would not turn my back on him at all. But i would be a basket case as well. So maybe the "adults" on here need to step back and ask themselves -- what if either of these were my children? I think there has been way to much violence already to instigate it further. Thank you Moet. Wasn't going to say anything, but then i was reading. Anything on this topics makes my blood boil. So, to see adults making statements like this, well couldn't stop myself.

• Yeah, you tell 'em grandma! lol Welcome back, by the way.

• I go a way for a few days and all hell breaks loose! People, calm down and be adults! Wayne has said that what Josie texted about his brother wasn't bad. Pete posted the text last week. Supposely she told him to go visit his dead brother. How does that justify getting your brain kicked in? Maybe people need to read the entire articles and not just the fine points. It has not been proven that Josie wrote anything. Yes it was her phone. the GF (a 13 yr old!) told Josie all kinds of stuff. Josie is at fault for not telling a adult that this child was having sex with wayne. Instead she texted Wayne that he was a prevent and if he didn't stop, she was calling the police. When he came back at her making cracks about he father, that's when she told him to "just go visit your dead brother". Next thing you know he is biking 10 miles to go to this middle school. GF had to point her out to him. he walked up to her and punched her in the face. Once she was on the ground, he started stomping and kicking her. A teacher heard her screaming and ran to pull Wayne off her. Wayne never once attempted to run or anything. He was waiting in office for cops. The GF attempted to run, but other kids who saw this, told the cops who she was. They went and got her and she is now to be charged just don't know what yet. I think i read somewhere accessory to attempted murder or somethng like that. This boy has had a hard life, a step father who use to beat him. A mother and step father who are no stranger to cops. A brother who killed himself (but they wouldn't say why). Wayne told a lot of kids what he was going to do. But NO ONE stopped him, or called the cops or even told his mother. Supposely Wayne tells tall tales to impress people. I don't want this kids in prison and i don't want him hurt, but he needs to be punished for his actions. As far as Josie, well for those who says she got what she deserves, I think she is getting her punishment. Can't talk, walk or anything we normally take for granted. I hope every adult on these comments is proud of themselves. No one says to defend either of them. But please, these are kids we are talking about. Our world has gone hell to a handbasket. Our children are so violent, they give gangbangers a run for their money. Grown men in prison are actually shocked by the actions of our children. there was a study done, and these harding criminals can't understand what is causing the brutality our children are inflecking on each other. Maybe we should get rid of the video games and tv, and teach our kids to be kids! As a parent and grandparent, i'm sick to death of all the violence.

• All I can say is that I was one of those "bitchy little girls" and I never held my tongue. I was a mean girl to boys, girls, authority.. whoever. Well, I got in plenty of fights in my day but never once did I get my ass beat like this.. So needless to say, this kid is seriously disturbed and prison is the perfect place for him. Oh and thankfully, I grew up and started loving myself and am even friends with the people that I put through hell...

• No I don't think anyone deserves to be hit, beaten, stomped, no one has the right to put their hands on another person for what ever reason. On all sides, I don't know why I thought this when I was reading your post but the first thing that came to mind about Treacy getting anger management classes in prison was "Booty Call" I'm sorry I know that was bad.

• Listen, i think you all have great points here. HeyanKiller (to the top of the comments) has a great point about teenage girls' mouths. Am i righ? I was one and you all know what i am talking about. We would say nasty things but none deserve that in return. The boy really has no right. If everyone in this world attacked teenage girls for everything hurtful they said where would we be? Not a very good place i can tell you that. Really all your comments gave me a good laugh. Thank you a ton! P.S. for the person who commited this crime, I'd consider anger manegment classes!

• Its easy to say that the boy was wrong but I never had someone in my family commit suicide, he does need to go to jail but he also needs help while he is there, as for the girl she might have deserved a beating but not that bad (at least thats what I can say without reading the text) but people should know when they are going too far when talking about other peoples lives

• My Heart bleeds for this little girl. I hope she will come out of it with least amount of permanent injury as possible. As for Treacy I am conflicted. He used his fists, feet, etc, to settle a score as some people say to do. But than he obviously has no restraint and has anger issues. Does his mental state justify a beating of any kind? Just relaying the questions in my head. What I think should happen is he should be tried as an adult for attempted murder and his friends as co- conspirators. My reasoning is everyone has a choice. Be the victim of circumstances forever or be a survivor and move on. He is choosing to be the continued victim. I did this because life sux, blah, blah. Sorry but sometimes so does mine but I don't go around pounding heads.

• Bad things happen to all kinds of people young, old, good, bad. The number one point here is that the Courts are addressing Treacy's first text to Josie about her father molesting her. Josie then texted Treacy back about his brother. No one knows what Josie texted to Treacy? TCR has gone Back and forth about Treacy was so upset and Josie deserved what she got because Treacy found his brother dead. His brother is a Coward for taking his own life and a sick SOB for doing it in Public for Little children to see at a Church.....Josie was the one that should have Stomped Treacy's head in 7 times and then 3 more times to make sure she got the job done right for what he said about her and her father.

• @Sangelina & Keekster, don't get me wrong, I think the 13-year-old girl deserves to be held responsible for her role in the crime. I just think it's a bit far-fetched for a girl to befriend someone under the pretense of one day using their phone and texting their boyfriend, pretending to be Josie, knowing that he would go to the extreme he did in finding and beating her. But I'm definitely glad she's being punished. If she was really Josie's friend, she would have told Josie to get the fuck out of there instead of pointing her out. I just read an article that mentioned that Treacy is the one who actually found his brother's body hanging outside a Pompano Beach church. I guess I can see why the comment, even though it "wasn't that bad" in retrospect, could set him off. I just wish he knew how to control his anger. Someone should have had him in counseling immediately after going through such a traumatic event. Maybe if he had some kind of help, some place to vent, he wouldn't have gone to these extremes.

• @Bianca. you would be surprised at what folks would do to keep the one they love for themselves. especially at that age. when one thinks their SO would most likely be their spouse. remember. she was the one who pointed out to the creep who Josie was. she KNEW he was on a rampage that day. and if you look at it. she had the info on both her bf and Josie.... stuff that she could use. in fact, saw a pic of Kayla Manson. and she has a smug look on her face. while she is in prison garb. the lil biotch knew what she was doing and why she did it.

• I am tired of this debate. Why? Because it's utterly moot. I don't care what she said. I don't care how mad it made him. I want to know where the adults were when this was going down. What the community plans to do about this kind of violence, since the is the second incident where a child nearly died over what should have been a trivial matter. The village has failed these children twice. Is it going to take a kid actually being killed over a nasty text message or $40 before people stop pointing fingers at the kids and start asking why and what can be done to prevent it?

• If Josie hadn't sent the text messages, then blah blah blahbety blah blah blah... The guy was a ticking time bomb. If he hadn't attacked Josie, it just would've been someone else. Someone who looked at him the wrong way, or wore the wrong clothes, or accidentally bumped into him or maybe just breathed. Blaming the victim is quite common. People blame the victim so that they can a) Distance themselves from the crime, "that could never happen to ME because I would never do such and such" or b) they are infused with a bully mindset, that victims all deserve what they get for being somehow lesser. There is of course a "c". The trolls that say contrary things solely for the purpose of rehashing the SAME tired debate over and over and over and over again, and getting much-coveted attention.

• angel martin, you said it in a nut shell."Did you miss that part, you fucking idiots? " Anyone with half a brain that can read Jake an Jill would see that there was never an argument as to what Treacy did to Josie. Treacy was looking to hurt someone and that someone was Josie. I bet that Treacy would not have taken the same actions if the person that he was texting was a male, Treacy is a lot like some of these commentators they are real big deals behind a computer.

• Angel Martin, that was awesome.

• Aph17 and Terry Carter:Didnt you read the whole thing? Wayne talked down on Josie's family too. Josie properly didnt like him talking down on her family, but she didnt go down to the high school and beat him nearly to death.

• Some of you people fucking kill me. I cannot believe there is actually an argument brewing as to whether or not "this is what she gets" for their stupid text fight. The kid needs to SACK UP and so do all of you people trying to defend what he did. Don't give me that bs that you aren't defending him but are just pointing out her "accountability." That's doublespeak. Did you miss the part where he accused her dead father of molesting her? Did you miss that part, you fucking idiots? They were both being nasty little shits to each other, I don't care who started what. The only difference is that this kid decided to stomp her to death, TO DEATH--she just got lucky, if you can call her condition lucky. Do any of you know how painful it is to have severe head injuries? Hurts a lot worse than a stupid text argument, dead relatives or not. They had to cut pieces of her skull away to relieve the pressure, imagine that--in fact, "HyenaKiller," why don't you sit back and imagine that long enough to have a sharp stabbing migraine for the rest of the day because that's what YOU deserve. Some people are so fucking worthless.

• @Bianca Unfortunately child murder (as in murder committed BY a child) is nothing new. There was just an article on this site of two teenage boys who killed there father so they could run away. and two teenage sisietrs who beat and stabbed their own mother to daeth. I also recommend you Google "Mary Bell" who is an infamous child murderer in England. And how 'bout those two boys in England who beat to death the little boy who was only 3 or 4? I'm not saying Josie's bf DID do it I'm just saying it's very suspicious that she would gladly point out her friend to her boyfriend who probably indicated he was going to hurt Josie.

• Syn, now that you made a public insult against Josie calling Josie "a little bitch"and indirectly threatening her. Josie has the right to stomp your head into the ground 7 times. According to you that's how it works. Just let everyone know where you live, I'm sure there are people that will take you up on your type of Justice. Isn't that what you said Syn with a few other people here on TCR? Josie text Treacy back in regards to his brother, therefore Treacy is justified in beating her half to death? It should be fair after all that's how Treacy and a few of you people put little girls in their place, Josie should be able stomp your heads into the ground 7 times for publicly insulting her.

• Stop blaming the victim. What ever Josie texted to Wayne was not the real problem. He even admitted that what she texted wasn't that bad. It didn't rise to the level of his anger. He was angry at the world and wanted a release. She was nothing more than an easy target for his emotional explosion. The boy needs to pay for his crime. Society must demand it for the victim. He also needs help however, because one day he will be released from his punishment. If his real problem is not addressed in this time period, God help the next person that crosses his path. It could be any of us.

• Nick quit responding to things I did'nt even type when addressing me. I stated you are always here to defend Treacy and you are. It does'nt matter which part of his BS you choose to defend it is still IN his defense. arguing with you is the equal of arguing with a teenager, one gets nowhere. Yet it is everyone else who is a moron and a 'bible thumper' It's never that you can't even read between the lines of Treacy's text. He threatened to kill her and I don't think she even had a chance to take him seriously. He came an attacked her from behind. You still keep acting as if it was some horrific accident that Treacy almost killed her. It was only an accident that she did'nt die. Since according to him that was his intention.

• People shit talk, that's life. Raise your kids in a loving environment & the things others say won't become so overwhelming to them that they decide to resort to violence. Unhappy/insecure parents breed unhappy/insecure children. I'll bet my savings that this young man didn't have a strong foundation at home. "bad fruit doesn't fall from a good tree."

• @Sangelina, I agree that there is reasonable doubt that it was not Josie sending the texts, but I really doubt a 13-year-old girl would or even COULD go to the lengths you're describing, just to get Treacy to beat the snot out of Josie. It's pretty far-fetched. I believe it most likely was Josie sending the texts, however, I hardly think that's a reason to beat the crap out of her, like some other people here are saying. I got in a couple of fights as a teenager, but I really wish kids would be a little more creative when it came to revenge. I got my revenge on lots of jerkoffs in high school without ever getting violent or ruining their entire lives. You can ruin their day, but don't ruin someone's life just because you're angry at them. I think kids today have no respect for anything, including themselves, but the thing they respect least of all seems to be life itself.

• Syn, that's an idiotic comment. According to your own ideals, Josie should now be able to assault you for talking smack about her and mocking her. Don't be stupid.

• folks, take a step backwards and look at the case better. some who just came on here obviously did not take the time to look at the report. 1. yes it was her phone. but who can say exactly that she was supposedly the one who sent the text. 2. before this happened, the guy's gf had befriended Josie. and had BORROWED the phone a few times before hand. the gf could have been the one to send the text 3. the guy did not know what Josie looked like. he had to ask a few other kids to find out what she looked like. a. in fact his gf pointed out who she was when he was about to go after a different person. and while he was beating the stuffing out of Josie, did nothing. http://www.examiner.com/x-19494-Broward-County-Parenting-Teens-Examiner~y2010m3d25-Josie-Ratley-and-Kayla-Manson-were-friends-Text-rage-incident-nearly-kills-teen-friend-or-foe Broward County Sheriff Al Lamberti says, "She knew that he was coming over there to inflict harm on Josie. She didn't stop it. When he got there, he didn't even know who Josie was. He went after a separate person, and she told him, 'No, no that's not her. That's the wrong person.' " 4. getting back to the gf. most girls her age tend to think the bf they got. is the one they wish to keep. is it possible that the gf caught him glancing AT Josie. and decided to remove the "competition". a. by first befriending her. and finding out things about her to be used against Josie. like if she had a cell phone. 5. best not to assume that the one who owned the device was the one who used it in the way it was used. that it might have been either borrowed or stolen. teens tend to loan out, and borrow things alot. a. in this case. Josie TRUSTED the gf enough to let the gf use the phone a few times. 6. if and most likely it was the gf who sent the text. the only crime Josie is guilty of. is trusting someone else with her stuff. if she somehow regains her past level of her intelligence. something tells me that she will never ever again trust anyone again in her lifetime. a. once trust is lost. it is almost impossible to regain it. those who have lost it. tend to refuse to be hurt again, be it emotionally and or physcially, by refusing to trust anyone. you tend to not have any good memories of the place, time, and folks that caused it. 7. they should IMHO go after the GF. since if she did do it. and it is looking like it. she should share the punishment too. if not more. as in intent to set up a murder hit on the gal. 8. why would a teen need steel toed boots? at that age, kids are not allowed to take jobs that need them. too hazard unless it might have been a gift from his gf. as in a way of setting up Josie to take the fall. so folks, untill you get some more facts about it. stop being chicken littles. and ASSUMING that Josie was totally to blame. in fact if you HAD read the story. you would have seen that she HAD borrowed the phone to the gf. my guess is, as I have pointed out several times. it was set up by the gf to get rid of someone she hated in her heart. someone she saw as competition for the attentions of her boyfriend. I would have to say that while she had befriended Josie. found out that Josie's dad was dead. knew of the bf's brother being suicide. and used both to get her way. by the way, they have charged the GF as well for helping http://cbs4.com/local/josie.ratley.wayne.2.1614222.html Manson, who reportedly knew that Treacy intended to hurt Ratley and did nothing to stop him, has been charged as an accomplice. and the Examiner link is to a Minneapolis paper.

• He clearly is wrong for not being able to control himself, but the girl ran her mouth and somebody made her pay for it. Pretty simple. Kids now a days think that they can do what they want with no consequences and one day, they will cross paths with the wrong person... such as this case.

• She talked openly and aggressively to someone while they were obviously angry and threatening. After he made the initial death threat, guess what? She mocked and taunted him. EVEN AFTER another threat, she MOCKED HIM AGAIN. Was the guy off the deep end? Yes, he was a mentally broken lil fuck. HOWEVER: As I've said in almost every other article about this case, the lil bitch played with fire. The transcript of texts only proves me right, you can clearly read it, you can see her taunting him and calling him a "rapist" why is he a rapist? Cause he's a year older than his gf? Two years? THREE? They're both still minors, and I doubt they're doing anything; so why is he a rapist? Why does she taunt him after he makes a death threat? Why does she INVITE HIM, to come and kill her? Why does she OPENLY TELL HIM WHERE SHE'S AT. The stupid lil girl knocked on the devil's door, and you know what they say if you keeping knocking on the devil's door, right? Someone eventually will answer. Now she's practically retarded, and he's going to die in prison. I call it even.

• IowaGrammy, wonderful comment. Nick, you are showing your intelligence and maturity as usual with that consistent diarrhea mouth of yours. "The average IQ of the people commenting on these stories is roughly equivalent to my shoe size." You should know about handicapped IQ's considering yours is so limited, Moron, Fuck etc.....Did you come up with your theory of the alleged text from Josie when you were spray painting your bicycle or playing Army men?

• Oh, right, this must be about someone else's comments, not about yours, Nick. I'm not commenting as anyone's admirer. It doesn't take much to be a detractor towards you, you say so many stupid things. And no, it's not an accurate checklist. Lists like these are not accurate because there is so much variability in the species, which I would expect someone with your impressive double digit IQ to know. I would dearly love to know your sources. They sound hilarious!

• Wow, it looks like Sandy has an admirer. And by the by, there's a reason the checklist is "oversimplified"(the accuracy is correct, however): The average IQ of the people commenting on these stories is roughly equivalent to my shoe size. Oh was that too complicated? Let me spell it out for you: The average person commenting here is equivalent to a person who shits their pants because they can't figure out how to work their belt.

• You know, this whole thread just seems so messed up to me. Who cares what she said to provoke him? It shouldn't matter, its just words. I can't argue that the world needs to be nicer, and if Josie had not texted him, what then? Who then would he have beaten to death? Honestly, would he have attacked so quickly and viciously if a strong male had sent that text? It seems more to me like the strong preying on the weak, for no better reason than he can. When is it ever ok to beat on someone smaller than you? How sad that Josie will spend the rest of her life recovering from this ordeal, while in a few short years after some time behind bars and some counseling, Treacy will be able to walk and talk and feed himself independently. Yet here you all are, arguing over whether she holds some responsibility. Whatever responsibility she may bear (which I believe she doesn't) she has paid for with her own suffering. Let it go people. Its not helping her or him. To Pete... everyone should teach their daughters basic self defense. My first experience being bullied on the bus sent me home in tears in first grade. My mothers response was to first scold me for being a bawl baby, and second she taught me a dangerous right hook. Girls need to be independent self reliant, if only so that they survive punks like this kid.

• Good lord, Nick, your "checklist" is way oversimplified and simply not accurate enough. :/ You didn't pay money for that information, did you?

• Let me let YOU in on a little secret too, Nick. Boys DO lie about sleeping with girls to say they haven't if they think they'll get in trouble for it. Certainly boys lie about rape. Some do. Why on earth are you acting like you know so much and speaking in universal tones you cannot possibly back up? let alone calling anyone ELSE a moron. here's another little hint: HE TEXTED HER. he texted her, she didn't seek him out, she asked him to leave her alone - he was swearing at her three texts in after a perfectly civil statement "she doesn't want to talk to you". Within the first three minutes he is threatening to kill her. You're an idiot to defend this kid, but more of an idiot to choose the defense you are. He and only he is responsible for his behavior, and it was abusive from the get-go. HE STARTED IT. HE TEXTED HER and he refused to stop even after she repeatedly asked him to. Let's be clear, he was abusive first, he harassed and bullied her, he threatened her life in the first three minutes. Poor kid. I mean there he is trying to assert control and abuse over another person and all he gets for his efforts is "u make me giggle". He attempts to terrorize her into being compliant, and she laughs at him. So he did his best to murder her. My heart bleeds for him.

• Sandy, since you claim all the time to "work for a police agency and a private detective agency"--you should know the tells of someone lying and the tone that people adopt when they're lying. Simple checklist: Liars, especially in murder cases during their interrogation, tend towards being very fidgety. But they won't move their upper bodies--just the legs. They'll tap their feet, uncross and cross their legs repeatedly, and shift restlessly in their seats. This one is a bit tricky due to the fact that it's usually combined with the next part of the checklist. This one isn't a sure-fired one, but with the other tells it lets you figure these things out and get a feel for the suspect. A liar will generally, especially again in murder cases, look the interrogating officer straight in the eyes while telling their story. They're not ashamed of what they did and they're aware of their behavior looking suspicious if they don't look the officer straight on. And most importantly here: A liar won't answer any questions with "I don't remember" or "I don't know". They also won't hesitate to answer the questions. They've thought their story through, they've prepared for it pretty much since they committed the act.

• Jesus Christ iLLusions, you really are fucking stupid. I wish there was an ignore function so I didn't have to read your stupid dribble. Keekster--Nobody at all has said "it's her fault! she's deserved it!". They've said that she's not completely blameless in this. It's a fucked up situation, as I've said repeatedly but it seems to get lost in the crowd of morons chanting "HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THIS!" and other bullshit, all around. Treacy was never even talked to by the school counselors or taken to a therapist following being the person discovering his dead brother's body. In most adults that would be traumatic, let alone to a friggin' kid who's being raised by the brother. And I guess I should add: The only people who are calling this "her fault" seem to be people trying to get a rise out of dipshits like iLLusions and Sandy who leap in hooting and hollering for the death penalty for every little crime, or with their precious "prayers for the victim". As for kids talking shit: There's a difference between calling someone a moron, an idiot, or any number of the "common" putdowns and calling them a "rapest"(Ratley's spelling.). Especially then following up calling someone a rapist for what looks like a good 15-20 texts with "go see your brother in hell rapest". And before I get my head bitten off for "BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HER FATHER FIRST!". So what? You folks are so quick to point out he didn't know her personally as making the crime "so heinous", how would he have known her father was dead? There wasn't news coverage of the father's death, or his girlfriend telling him that Josie's father died of natural causes. Yet, it seems that Josie had that knowledge about Wayne's brother. People pull the "My *insert relative title here* is dead, you fucker" card out of their ass all the time online. Unless you have personal knowledge of it, or they've told you it in person--it's best to ignore the topic and let it drop.

• Adarc, You have a great point. Treacy is a danger to society. As to the Secret that you were let in on, if a kid figures that they are going to get into trouble for a bad behavior they are going to lie.....Defending this monster is pathetic. Prison Boy tries to kill a little girl because she responded back to his text message? If that's the case and Treacy's actions are justified because Josie hurt Treacy's feelings with a text, 9 out of 10 people on this Website are justified in killing one another.

• @Hyenakiller Your cause and effect analogy is pathetic. She CAUSED this? No way. That psycho boy made a choice. HE caused this. He could have walked away like a human being and chalked her remarks up to PMS but oh no he had to beat the bitch out of her! Of course he did way more than that - if she's lucky she might someday eat through a straw or maybe even talk. People who see this beatdown as being her fault are clearly people who can't take responsibility for their own actions. You know, like the psychopaths we read about on this site! HELLO! You talk about raising your children to respect women - how can you dare say that when you clearly don't understand that young girls (and boys) talk sh*t sometimes. That's what kids do! Holy hell Hyena, WTF happened to you in childhood?

• So funny how you consistently claim to NOT be defending Treacy but your always are there in one way or another with a bleeding heart for a boy who knew full well what he rode his bicycle to the bus stop to do. It was'nt an 'accident'. He did'nt accidently fall on her. He peddled his little bike to do just what he promised I think all in all he TRIED to kill her he clearly stated so in his texts, since texts hold some much water for you.

• So funny how you continually think showing any form of sympathy to Treacy for the situation he was in prior to actually beating her is tantamount to being of the mind that "SHE DESERVED IT!". It's nowhere near the same thing. It's stepping back and taking an objective view of a fucked up situation and looking at both sides of the story, rather than just siding with whoever seems to be the bigger victim.

• So funny how some of these post take on the tone over and over again that Treacy is bieng wronged in some way, or treated unfairly? How fair did he treat Josie? If teenage threats over a cell phone merit the 'punishment' Josie got in ANY adults eyes, something is wrong.

• you're right aphroditie17. if someone talked smack about my family i would get into it with them. nearly kill, no. a broken nose? most likely. -zane

• If you are talking smack someone is going to get angry(especially if you start it). Yeah he over reacted but if someone was talking down about your family wouldn't you do something about it or just get walked over? I don't agree with the action he took but it was going to end on way or another.

• can you prove that JOSIE LOU RATLEY,HAD HER FINGERS ON THE PHONE AND SENT THE MESSAGES TO WAYNE??BY PROVE,I MEAN ACTUAL PHYSICAL PROOF? Until someone can prove that JOSIE LOU RATLEY SENT THESE MESSAGES to Wayne I would suggest you all stop blaming her for her attack! YES JOSIE,ACCORDING TO REPORTS LET KAYLA USE HER PHONE! AND YES THE MESSAGES CAME FROM JOSIE'S PHONE! but the question remains: CAN ANYONE PROVE JOSIE LOU RATLEY,SENT THE MESSAGES THAT DAY,WERE THERE ANY WITNESSES TO THIS?IF THERE WERE,SPEAK UP!!IF THERE WEREN'T THEN WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE DOING is putting josie on trial for something she didnt do! LET'S NOT FORGET,WHO THE VICTIM IS HERE! josie was attacked by wayne,not vice versa so BIGMOUTHS WITH YOU'RE BIG OPINIONS,PUT UP THE PROOF OR SHUT UP!!I WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO OR THE PICTURES SHOWING JOSIES FINGERS ON THE PHONE,AND THE MESSAGES HER FINGERS WERE SENDING!

• I'm guessing this is the Nick everybody's been talking about...

• Nobody's trying to "reform" Hyenakiller. The people who are shouting at him are just interested in shouting as much as they can at people who disagree with them.

• you beat me to the punch ct. i was going to say that exactly. here is my question: why are you all trying to reform hyenakiller? i know his protege. they won't change. however, his protege does not agree that Josie deserved being beaten. (we read truecrimereport stories in our criminology class.)

• If I was Josie's mother I would beat her attacker as bad as he beat Josie and his useless parents too. If any of you give this two wrongs dont make a right or this isnt a christain way to talk s*** I would beat you up like that too. To those of you who said she provoke it. Does any of you relize that he talked s*** to her too. The worst she said was that he was a rapist for dating a 13 year girl. I guess she was right that she was with a wrong guy after all. Why do a 13 year old need a boyfriend anyhow. Everyone talk badly before. Im sure you all can think of a not so kind word you said to someone in your lifetime, but had you all went to the hospital and been in the coma for it? Plus you dont hit a women ever. All she was trying to do is protect her friend even though she knew her. It the way you look at it. Action speak lounder than words.

• And once again, it was reported very early on(bear with me here before opening your mouth again, moron) that he was wearing the boots anyways. As for the rapist part, buddy, I'm going to let you in on a secret here. Boys don't lie about NOT sleeping with a girl. Especially at the age of the boy involved.

• Nick - How do you know he isn't a rapist? I mean, he's almost a murderer. Besides, I don't care WHAT she called him. I don't care if she said he slept with his dead brother's pinky finger in his mouth, and his **** in the family cat. They are just words. He put on his steel-toed boots, and went looking for a girl he never met and beat her near to death.

• Also I think you're reading too much into the "pound me in the ass prison" reference. Its a phrase from the movie Office Space used to refer to a maximum security prison.

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