Aubrey Sacco Believed to Have Been Kidnapped While Hiking in Nepal

• I recently met idiot German backpacker (female) who hiked US Pacific Crest trail alone and, of course, unarmed (she almost got raped there) and hiked in Nepal... she wasn't aware of human trafficking and was positive Sacco fell into the crack in the rocks somewhere. It shows how many head to Nepal with idiotic, uninformed, dangerous attitude-no wonder they end up poorly. This German wannabe-wilderness lover was a disaster waiting to happen. The world is NOT a yuppie or rich kid playground. It is NOT your privileged Western country backyard of your middle class home.

• You're right. Some people act like babe in the woods. Haven't they heard there're wolves out in the forest before they embark on their play journeys? Nepal has the highest human trafficking rate.

• And being "low class" is something wrong in your book? I guess you're one of the bumbling stuck-up self-entitled pseudo liberals who never took Reality 101 and think the world is their playground? Guess what... you go bumbling 'round wilderness and foreign countries.... "low class" people you despise will kill ya. And ya will be forgotten soon. End of story. With someone with your attitude--I wouldn't even be sorry.

• To all of you who are commenting on this story.... Aubrey is my friend.. i know her better than most of you commenting. She has been ther e a few times and was teaching there. she decided to go back to hike she is a free spirit with a huge heart and im apalled at some of your somments.. We should be careful what we say and assume her family is grieving and negative comments about their daughter is the last thing they need to hear. They are well aware of the horrible possibilities they may have to face. The point is.. regardless of who is fault she is missing and we are desperate to have her home safe. so please be respectful and be careful of what you are saying because you dont know who is reading your comments. thanks

• Your language is kinda low class.  You are low class.  You do not realize that her brother and father have broken hearts.   Please be kind.  

• Why was this teenage girl hiking alone?   

• Ian, a man i met in thailand said, once he was forced to walk with rebels in nepal for 2 weeks.  then they let him go unharmed.  some sort of insurance policy against the army.

• Frankly, the person who made the comment about it being a mistake for a single young girl to go off into the wilderness alone, is totally right.  I am here in Nepal now and local uneducated men are looking for victims like her.  Women who take guides or friends along are smart.  You have to know this culture more before you impose your western mindset of equality and women's freedom or whatever.  Try to live here alone and see what happens to you.  If you don't believe a man saying it, then come here and talk to local women who never walk alone at night or on treks.

• One thing I have to add is if you are young, dumb, loud, wear short skirts and tight tops, have no idea how to blend in and have no street smarts what so ever do not go travelling abroad EVER....Disney land might be ok...a foreign country not ....I can tell from photo of Aubrey she was not a stupid girl....it bothers me that people in Nepal know something but won't say because of fear of police?? Have they been offered $$$ ? I would be trying that route..someone has to come forward...

• I agree with Sean ward...I feel more unsafe here in America than Asia...I a woman on her own " oh god forbid" travelled around the world for 10 years, backpacked all over...I was stupid back then as well and on numerous occasions put myself in very stupid situations...I could have landed in a Bangkok jail with drug possession, I could have been assaulted when I took a ride in a car with total strangers who were men into dodgy neighbourhoods in Bali Indonesia, I cringe now at some of the things I did..however I never once in 10 years had any trouble...when I told the men in the car to drive me back to where I was staying because I felt unease, they said " it's ok we are human too we will take you back "and they did....then I know a girl who went on her first trip to Bali out of USA for first time and was in a hotel in her first week and it got blown up by a bomb... My point is and I read it above , you can't live your life I am not anyway living in a cave and doing nothing for fear of the unknown...sometimes life happens and things beyond your control occur...it could happen right outside your front door.... I also know a lady who went hiking in Moab on her own, been there tons of times, she was 52, went down a canyon and couldn't get back up...died of exposure...it was months before she was found...then there is George Aldrich the guy who died falling off bridge in Aspen.. You just never know.....but don't be afraid to explore the world..most go traveling with no problems at all...I hope they can find Aubrey..worst thing is not knowing...

• If Aubrey is still alive (and there is a good chance she is) and they REALLY want to find her, they need to start looking in the brothels who buy kidnapped western women who are sold into slavery/prostitution. Those girls get forcefully hooked on drugs and are unable to fight back or contact someone for help. Yes, that is a dirty, deep under cover task, but that is your best chance now. I'm not trying to cause controversy, but if she is alive she is obviously being held against her will and/or unable to reach out for help. I would spend time looking for her where she could be alive versus spending time looking for a body. You can always look for a body later. Aubrey won't be young, pretty and attractive to the brothels forever. When she no longer earns her keep, they will get rid of her. I'm no expert but I have traveled all over Asia and the Middle East and the same issue of western girls getting kidnapped and put in brothels keeps coming up. I am talking about a friend who had a sister who had a experience with an attempted kidnapping, etc.

• @Sean Ward: I am just seeing this post. I lived in Asia for a year, and generally felt pretty safe. I did take normal precautions like not walking around after dark in unfamiliar places alone. Outdoor activities like hiking and mountain climbing are inherently dangerous. I recall hearing about the man who had to *cut off his own hand* to get free of rocks that either fell on him or he fell into. I also recall hearing about a woman who fell off a cliff and broke her pelvis. She nearly died while awaiting rescue. She would have died had one EMT refused to give up and happened to come across her dog. These two incidents happened in the US. Doing stuff like that without a buddy is assuming a lot of risk, no matter what country you are in. Based upon what is posted in the article, she knew about the risk and made the conscious decision to do this activity alone. She was/is an adult and that is her right. She may have fallen or been pushed. She may have been kidnapped. If she ws kidnapped or met other foul play, shame on the attackers. I hope they are caught and punished. People *should* be able to conduct their lives unmolested, but this is the real world and that is not how life is. But you know, even if she had gone with a "big strong man" some criminal could have overpowered them and done them harm. No one is invincible against a group of thugs if they are out-manned and out-gunned. After all this time, it is unlikely that she will be found unharmed. I feel bad for her family. Not knowing must be torture.

• After living in Asia for all of 2009 I find it very difficult to believe she was kidnapped or forced to do anything against her will, even as a woman hiking alone. I won't find it surprising, however, if they find her at the bottom of a cliff or even fairly high trail, covered by dense brush. Or this happened and she was carried off by animals, etc. There are NO signs or fences or any sort of barriers on even very popular hiking trails and with her adventurous nature she could have easily gone dangerously close an edge and simply fallen to her death. We hiked in very popular mountains, Huang Shan in China for example, where one slip meant death, and we had small children running past us all day long, even grandmother's hobbled along these paths with nothing but rocky ledges on both sides. Women hiking alone is not the problem (unless she's doing here in the USA, the most violent country on earth) but in Asia we never felt safer.

• I read that a lot of people including women go missing in Nepal and never found or never found alive. There were 2 european female tourists who were confirmed dead in 2005-2006 and are considered to be victims of a serial killer, plus another female tourist who fell off the cliff under strange circumstances in 2006 (all belongings stolen). Now, the French embassy report indicated that murdered tourist C.Henry was hiking WEARING SHORTS ALONE. What is that? How insane one must be coming to Asian foreign country and hiking in shorts and nothing else and all-alone??? I hope this is a false report or smoe misunderstanding, otherwise it was an invitation to rape her. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. In my home country, you are even afraid of police and ambulance as they are part of organ trade too, and known to abduct people to be killed for organs. I personally was robbed by ambulance crew back in my country when I was younger. Scary stuff! DON'T GO TO OTHER COUNTRIES ALONE AND DON'T ACT ALL SEXUAL AND COVER YOURSELF UP AND DON'T FLUSH YOUR MONEY/BELONGINGS.

• PS: Btw I consider myself a feminist... no i don't like MALES to tell me what to do and submit to their control of the world...I come from the country where women don't have rights at all....but rather than putting the head into lion's mouth (like TheTits does), I chose another strategy to assert my freedom... I stay safe and alive...and "strike" the lion when it's unsuspecting...and God have mercy on any male who decides to f*ck with me the wrong way...it'll be like fighting with another man....hehe I make sure MEN eat alll sh*t I ate from them during the course of my life back...just stupid to go alone and let them kill u...it's like SUBMITTING to them in the worst way. Btw I think im stronger than Tits physically cause i do use testosterone whenever I feel like...yep....still wouldn't go into...cough...COMPTON/WATTS in LA alone and at night...are you a taker, Tits, u should go into Watts and read them your bill or rights haha! That's where LA riots of 93 started btw...I'm sure they'll learn to lick the ground and respect your feminist rights!! Go assert urself in Compton!

• TheTits is really dumb and the fact that she hasn't been raped and cut up on her trips or sold to slavery doesn't mean others should listen to a bleeding heart idiot like her. She should read her dumb 'feminist' (they are not) lectures to a mountain lion before it eats her, may be the lion changes its mind and become better educated on how liberated people should be? Haha... what a dumbo! Typical American who thinks the world will roll for her. If u came to my home country, u wouldn't hike for a long time... You'd be hiking a couple of feet under the ground. She thinks she'd better than other females who're careful and understand the dangers. Btw, maam, I lift weights and I'm an athlete who's often mistaken for a dude...somehow I think I'm stronger than you... yet I'm not stupid enough to hike alone. An oh yes im a gossip-eating tw*t sitting in a cubicle...lol being an computer engineer with 2 degrees. Anyway... the world isn't a safe place...it's not safe to be alone in wilderness....to be alone overseas for an American (i strongly advice any Americans not to visit my home country alone, btw, cause i know what's gonna happen)...it's just NOT SAFE AND WILL NOT BE..because THE REAL WORLD IS NOT A ROSY CLOUD OF SUGAR! IT'S A DANGEOUS PLACE FULL OF PREDATORS, WHETHER IT'S 2 LEGGED OR 4 LEGGED ONES AND ITS BEEN THIS WAY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. That girl was very dumb and irresponsible hiking alone and hell knows where in Nepal. Yep, she carries part of responsibility. It's like people who go climb a mountain alone unprepared... and then THEY DON'T PICK UP THE TAB FOR RESCUE OPERATIONS THAT IS HELLA EXPENSIVE AND TAXPAYERS ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THIS??

• I trekked alone in Nepal back in 1982 and it wasn't safe then for women to travel alone. It's much more dangerous today. C'mon people, use common sense.

• i am sure she can take care of herself. she has been found, right? i mean, by now we all know it is totally safe for a young woman to walk around by herself. nothing will happen ... i mean, what could happen? i am sure she is smokin' the hookah with the "natives".

• One hope she wasn't actually going around in public in Nepal dressed as shown in these photos. A woman's bare shoulders and especially boob-revealing halter tops are to the Nepalese inappropriate and (to men) arousing public dress.

• @A'Grandma, LOL, yeah I guess I am! Glad your day is going well thus far and too true, who knows how it will go, but I'll join you in hoping for the best. :D

• jean18, Kudos! Seems your speel check in your brain isn't working either? LOLOLOL No harm no foul!!!! I agree. I hope and pray to hear more of this young woman and to hear she has been returned unharmed. I wish no insult to the family or friends who may come here and read. I just think at all of us (male and female, young or old) take some things to much for granted. and when they hear an evil somewhere, well, it's somewhere else and can't hurt us. But we have been proven many times that that way of thinking is wrong. I want this child to come home. Safe and unharmed. But reading what i have read, this seems more and more unlikely. I can't even imagine what her mother is feeling. and my heart breaks for her. if you are a friend/family member, please know Aubrey is in my nightly prayers. @ Alexa::: Little sure of me are u? LOLOLOLOL Having a fairly good day. No arguments yet!!!! But the day is still young!!!! Stay happy!

• Hi Jean18, once you get to know Angry Grandma, you'll know that she would not hold it against you at all. She has a great sense of humor about her mad spelling skills. :) And, I agree with you.

• My goodness let's spell your name right.. Angry Grandma :)

• Wow...I'm amazed at reading this whole thread. Many people had good points. Angrey Grandma cracked me up! And others just need to get there head outta you know where...But all in all, what's important here is that we continue to pray and think optimistically for Aubrey's safe return home and be respectful, ackowledging the fact that her family and others close to her could be seeing these things that have been written. Whether you agree that she made a mistake by traveling alone or not, the fact of the matter is, this young woman is still missing and the best thing we can do is, again, be respectful, hang tight, and pray, send optimistic vibes, or whatever you do and hope she will return to her loved ones.

• bwahahaha!!!

• I admire Aubrey. I have traveled alone to many countries, including Nepal. Im male, but have met many females young and old traveling alone. Just because you travel someplace alone doesnt mean your always alone. Your always meeting up with others at hostels, lodges, along the trail, During peak season the popular trails in Nepal are packed with foreigners. So she ran into trouble during one of those moments she was alone. It can happen anywhere, anytime. Aubrey is from a small town, Greeley Colorado. Not too long ago a 12 year old girl was found dead in a ditch after missing for awhile, Trouble can happen to anyone, anytime, anywhere. Im lucky to get 5 weeks of vacation a year. IM not going to miss out on the world because someone else doesnt want to go, or cant go to the same places for the same length of time that I do, Does that mean I accept risk> Yes. But id rather live my life to the fullest than be afraid to do the things I want. I can guarantee you that you are far safer in Nepal then you are in most places in North America. Does that mean something cant happen Of course not. Most of you wil never experience the world like Aubrey or the millions of other independent travelers like her. you probably dont care, which is cool, but you should not criticize her for doing what she did, Would you criticize her if she were found murdered in the ditch in Greeley? Im retuning to Nepal shortly, going alone again, Its not even remotely like what most of you imagine it to be. One thing is important here. Lets hope she is found. Pls pray for her

• Eh,...Ok I'm not even going to ask.

• hi pussy ... cat. i win.

• meow

• i win.

• Male, Female and/or 'Other' - The simple fact is that keeping yourself safe and lessening the chances of your being hurt or by hurting others (directly or indirectly) should be paramount. The human instinct of self-security should kick in. No, you don't have to sit at home eating donuts and yelling at Lohan's parents. Get up, get out there and do something, When you do, use the good sense given to even goats; Go with a herd, a second or third. Anything else is just plain stupid. No matter what you say or think, no one EVEN A NEPALESE NATIVE should be out and about, alone, in an unknown mountainous terrain. This young lady is NOT culpable for anything that may have happened to her. Absolutely not. Anyone that's done ANYthing to her has no right and no reason and should be punished suitably - if any of that is the case. Meanwhile, culpability and responsibility are two different words for very good reason. Look into it. It isn't criminal (or in any way wrong) to want to live on the edge, explore the world, be on your own and feel that you should be able to live in peace. Sadly, there is a 'rest of the world'. Being completely unaware (or not acknowledging) that something could go wrong, not taking steps to insure safety (for yourself and others) can - sadly - lead to any number of foul and avoidable circumstances. Take care of yourself and each other. You'll live a more full, complete and (hopefully) longer life.

• you are the first loser. i win.

• i win

• i win. lesbians unite!

• @Alecto, osama with a little o is over here breaking his arm patting himself on the back all by his wittle self. I say let's not interrupt. It's kinda' cute to watch from the breakfast bar, sipping mimosas.

• i win again. i always win. even when i lose, i win. i hope everyone celebrated their independence this weekend ... no matter how stupid what they did was or how dumb they are. i win.

• no u don't

• i win.

• Did Anteos sign in as Alecto in order to make that odd remark at me or what? I don't think I've missed any of Alecto's points so I find it frankly bizarre.

• Lex, read your post. I agree completely. Like I said, my post about being a dick was for osama, not for you.

• No, Lex ,that was not directed towards you. It was towards "osama" I didn't even notice your post.

• good grief alexa. you still have missed my point. :) i never said that a woman can't travel the world like a man can. i said that nobody should go hiking in the mountains alone and for the danger factor of the sex trade in that part of the world a woman shouldn't go there alone. i don't think it's wise for anyone to travel to any unknown place alone.

• @Anteos, well, yes, that is a possibility. If so, then we may never know her fate for lack of finding her remains. But we're really discussing if a woman is supposed to be able to travel the world like a man would. We like this kinds of discussions. =)

• likee heelooowww.. cant you just think, she went to climb himalayas, and went missing there? she might be fell down? or she might be covered with snow?? Ive been to himalayas, with my family, we went up for 5 hours and go down, we cant stand how tiring and cold there.

• angry grandma worry not, most of us, at least myself have done it a time or two on here. Passion is good and a little compassion is as well.;) Once and a while we all click that post button a little to soon. :)))

• Moet said: Yes, hiking by yourself, especially in a foreign country, is not a very wise/safe thing to do. That doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it. If that was directed towards me? What's the matter, 'truth hurts'? I stand by what I wrote...

• @Angry Grandma, no worries dear, water under the bridge now. ;) Besides, we need you in the Stinky Bingo Band. You're security and backup vuvuzela/kazoo-ist. I understand our first booking is in beautiful downtown Nepal. LOL!

• ANGRY GRANDMA: What Moet said.

• Happens to the best of us sometimes, Angry Grandma! ^_^

• Ok. First of all. I am very sorry for the Lesbo comment. It was beneath me and i shouldn't have used it. I was really steamed and let my words get away with me. Again. To any/all for are from the Gay community on this site, i do apologies deeply. Those were uncalled for words. I do not mean to degrade anyone for their sexual preferences. (i have a few freinds/family members who are gay) So again i am sorry. To everyone else... Aw Shucks! Thanks for the stand ups. I need to learn to calm down before i allow my fingers to type. I'm sorry to all i might have offended on this site.

• last word.

• uh oh

• last word.

• I really think Kristin said it well.All of it in her first post.

• WTF OMG LOL LMAO ... evidently protozoa have more common sense and intelligence than women who hike by themselves in foreign countries. you've come a long way, baby!

• bwahahaha!!!

• holy shit

• Oh, look at the tiny o osama trying to fight with us, isn't he cyuuuuuuuute. LMAO!!!! I know, it has a brain only a protozoa would love but I'm trying to be charitable. You don't have to be here to amuse us teeny o osama, but we appreciate the warm up. :D

• Everyone: I mean me personally. Not telling anyone else what to do.

• Yes, hiking by yourself, especially in a foreign country, is not a very wise/safe thing to do. That doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it.

• The above statement would be the perfect example of when you might want to sink down to someone's level and insult them, but don't because you're better than that.

• maybe this chick got attacked by oppressive men a.k.a. trolls ... also known as coyotes ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/28/taylor-mitchell-singerson_n_337836.html by all means, go out and hike by yourself.

• "Trool!" Love it! lol!

• i love it ... whenever you make someone look really stupid on the internet and nail the truth to which there is no retort, the idiot(s) cry "Troll". long live the member of a race of fearsome creatures from Norse mythology! Jenn, Alexa Kim and TheTits = Rosie O Donnell fan club founding members.

• Jenn ... your armpit hair is showing. you are really intelligent ... did your Daddy pay for your education? you are really articulate and you like to show people how smart you THINK you are ... i am not anti-woman, but anti-idiot. unfortunately, just like men, women in this country continue to prove by the droves how unbelievably ignorant and retarded they can be ... they have been able to watch from the sidelines for such a long time, i just find it incredible that the gender as an entirety has learned absolutely nothing and are making the same exact if not bigger mistakes than their male counterparts. i AM a bigot and until i wake up and don't see ANOTHER idiot feminazi lost in the wilderness, kidnapped in broad daylight and/or killing thier off spring, then i am going to take it to your face with cold hard reality princess.

• @Jenn, we can take this osama fool trool, eeeeeasy. LOL!!! In fact, I just looked it up on the al Qaeda for Dummies website, and right there in the glossary it says "osama: little "o": trool."

• osama, you are a tool and a troll. Guess that makes you a trool? Either way, your toolish rhetoric and your trollish comments make you neither likeable or worthy of any reply other than you can go on with your anti-woman remarks. Jump on your magic carpet and soar to the middle east where women are considered subhuman. You will fit in well.

• lol. i know you weren't and i agree with everything you said. thank you. i like angrygrandma too!!

• @Alecto, my latest comment just above might sound as if I'm talking the whole time to you when I'm not; just the first graf. =)

• @Alecto, Hang in there girl, you rock. I understand how you feel, truly. Sometimes, certain commenters let their emotions run away with them and suddenly, they're shooting you with both barrels. (If it's any consolation, @Angry Grandma is a nice lady who is very passionate.) I agree with @Kristin and @ccccc in that if a commenter has not used an insult on a fellow commenter first, thereby opening the door, then the rest of the commenters need to follow that example. If a commenter makes an argument that suggests they don't like X, and you find yourself feeling like it's a personal insult, though you were not named nor hinted at, then make an argument back that avoids names and insinuations, too. @Angry Grandma, you live and teach a lifestyle more in harmony with the planet than most of us, good on you. @Kristin, very well said. *department store overhead attention chime* I hereby declare this a name calling free zone. Agreed? Carryon. I must go find Sorandkairi and give him a lollipop to calm his jitters. LOL!

• and further more. i have a son. and when he grows up if he were to decide to go hiking alone in nepal i would throw a hissy fit and tell him over my dead body!!!

• i think it just pissed grandma off so bad becuase thetits attacked anybody that has a different opinion than herself. and becuase she can't win an arguement she resorts to attacking and name calling to distract from the fact that her opinion isn't valid and asking for trouble.

• i agree.

• @ "Lets let her have her lesbo ways "...really? how intolerant. i want those on this board from the gay/bi/lesbian community that i do not support ostracizing someone because of their sexual orientation. there are those of us here who are happy to accept you for who you are and who do not judge you based on your sexual orientation.

• Alecto and others, No, assholes and hypocrites isn't very nice, either. I just think it's rude to assail others' sexuality for no reason. Pretty much everyone has made some valid points regarding this case, in my opinion. Can't we just disagree without petty name-calling?

• Alecto: Kristin didn't say that. If she's anything like me, then she finds ALL of the name calling a little beneath our status as grown-ups.

• Kristin, so the tits gets a pass for calling grandma and i "assholes" and "hypocrites"?

• if she hiked in Nepal alone, then she had it coming.

• TheTits ... you are a total moron. take a shower. get a brain. if you want to get abducted in the middle of a forest or mountains or hiking or whatever, then go do it. you will have all of the freedom you desire ... but you will be a victim and you will then turn around and cry about how no one helped you and there should have been this and there should have been that and it should be this way and i should be able to walk around free and light and hippie with no consequences... you are a total idiot. this is why there will NEVER be a female president. go join a war you douche.

• I don't think the posters arguing are really that far off from each other. In life, with everything you do there is a calculated risk. Each person weighs the risks associated with any endeavor and then makes a choice. No victim EVER deserves to be victimized, I think we all agree upon that. As humans we have the ability to make judgments and to use common sense. Self-preservation demands sound judgment. Should I be able to walk through an inner-city at midnight dolled up with expensive clothes and jewelry on, being an attractive white female? I SHOULD be able to, but I WOULDN'T due to that being an obviously HIGH RISK, LOW REWARD situation. I want to live, and not be robbed, raped and killed. Statistics tell you that there is a high probability of that occurring to me if I make that choice. That is an "unacceptable" risk to me, so I would not do it. Now, hiking in Nepal is quite a different judgment call. It is not known as a high danger area, Americans hike there all the time. She obviously made the decision that it was an acceptable risk, and took it. This was not a reasonably forseeable outcome, in other words, it was an extremely low probability. You don't not do something because of a 2% chance of something happening to you. If the risk is 50%, you probably don't do it.... Anyway, I see nothing in this story that would cause me to second-guess anything she did. I hope she turns up and is ok, sounds like a wonderful person. Oh, and grandma, calling someone a lesbo for no reason is really uncalled for. Whether she is or isn't, isn't that kind of petty?

• Angry Grandma: I appreciate your views on hunting and totally agree. Your grandkids are very lucky, indeed.

• Guys, I mean this in the best possible way: We can all disagree with each other without being nasty. Let's chill and construct our arguments in the least offensive way possible. Just because other people resort to pettiness doesn't mean we have to- we're better than that, right?

• @CCCCC and CW (and everyone else!) I love to camp and having grown up on farms my entire life I try and make sure that my "city born and raised" grandkids get a good lession in the great outdoors. I have a 100 arces in Maine that my dad use to farm. We still have animals. And my babies know how to collect eggs, feed the birds, milk a cow and how to clean out stalls in the barn and they have just started learning how to lead the cows around without getting kicked! Whenever we go they are excited to be able to be "farmers". My own city kids learned this their entire life. And they are well rounded. This is something they could never get at summer camps. next year the older ones will learn how to make butter. The old fashion way with a churn! Besides learning all these great things they are learning responisbilty and about all the dangers on a farm. We live to far into the city so there is no 4H clubs. But i want them to know that city living isnt the only thing there is. The older two (both 12) are learning how to shoot this summer. And i'm not buying them guns. I want them to have healthy respect for fire arms not to be gangsters! I hunt yearly and fish whenever i can. But i don't hunt as a sport. Only for food. And i want them to learn that hunting really isn't a sport and that when people over hunt (for fun) they breakdown the eocsystem within the animal kingdom. I think i have them almost ready for this Nov.

• Alecto, I guess we can say that our concerns for Aubrey were miscommunicated to THETITS. Lets let her have her lesbo ways and words and ignore her. she is the type of person that must have the last word and also to make the most damning connections. She wants to be a victim her whole life and screams at all that will actually listen that she isn't a victim. so, i choose to ignore her rambling. and yes, THE TITS: I called you a LESBO because that's the vibe that is coming off you. Woman hear you roar. Wow. Hope someday you mellow out and really live a life that is happy and not pissed off at anyone who decides to ignore anything you say.

• ..... opps... wrong room (turns around and runs like hell because he sees alot of women with knives and the intent to kill)

• Iraq2010: I just have two questions: Should a guy be able to go to Nepal by himself? Is a guy going to Nepal by himself also asking for trouble?

• I have to comment. As a female who has traveled to many countries since the age of 13 I would never go somewhere alone. Never would I say someone deserves to be harmed for venturing off alone, but I definitely wouldn't do it. I have also been to Nepal, and although it is beautiful and the locals are wonderful it isn't hard to find a little dirt under all the shine.This is true for all countries, including the US. When traveling out of the country I can often feel the dangers in a market place or even the freaking airport. Hell I attended a church service in the Dominican Republic and afterwards a man attending the service asked my male companion was asked how much to buy me (for keeps) and we hadn't even left the sanctuary! I honeslty think the victim sign is over the head of every person visiting a foreign country....male or female. Wow, so I guess the point I mean to make is that no matter how many ways you try to keep yourself safe, there are always things that can happen. I personally wouldn't venture to another country alone.I prefer a group of 3-4, just from personal experience. I truly hope this gal is found. I truly hope her desire for adventure will remain intact.

• Alecto- You said exactly what TheTits needed to hear. No girl should go to Nepal by herself. That is asking for trouble.

• I don't care if you are male or female (and don't think it's important), if you go hiking in a foreign country alone, you are nuts! Most of the world is not like the United States, where the nanny state goes out of it's way to get you out of trouble of your own making. And for 'free' to boot. Anyway, I hope this girl comes home safe and sound...

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• I am a little baffled by this thread. Especially Alexa Kim basically stating it remains to be seen (based on this girls return home or not) if she was crazy or brilliant. I usually agree with alot of the posters but I have to side a little more with The Tits. I initially understood where Alecto was coming from the general idea of not hiking alone, foriegn country etc. But it does seem to run over the same concept of "if she hiked alone in Nepal she had it coming." I know that is not what is bieng said or maybe even intended BUT.... The same is true for a man to not hike alone and all of the above. People take risks EVERYDAY. Simple things like driving your car. This is thecircumstances of life. Could you be in a car accident? Yes. You take that risk to get to work, or school or to go do things you enjoy. Just because Ipersonally would'nt hike the mountains of Nepal, does'nt mean this girl was crazy, or deserving of any harm to come to her. Again I know that is not exactly what is bieng stated here, but it sure does run along thoe lines.

• Ohfercryinoutloud.

• Angry Grandma and Alecto, you've won the gold in special olympics assholery. Truly. Go take your pill and settle into your hen houses for the night, hypocrites, and tomorrow morning you can wake up bright and fresh to make the world a crappier place to live. You BOTH sound bitter and frustrated -- maybe you could turn on Oprah and get some ideas about how to feel better not about yourselves, but than other people. Again: There is no excuse for blaming the victim, which is what both of you have done, no matter how you try to back-pedal and sugar coat things. This young woman was doing what she wanted to do, which was nothing illegal or immoral. Whoever has captured or hurt her deserves all of the blame for being a social deviant.

• Alex Kim, nah darling i wasn't talking about you. i was talking about thetits and mesaid. and yes she should be able to live life on her own terms. but unfortunately in the world we live in it puts you in more danger.

• CW- Um, that was awesome. Later all. My work here (at work) is done.

• I took my daughter camping when she was a kid-I woke up one morning to go pee and as began to climb out of our camper (on the back of the truck) there was two guys going through our cooler. I immediately reached inside the door for my handgun and drew a bead on them, asking them not so politely to get the fuck out of our campsite. They were very prompt in doing so, we left immediately after them. I haven't camped since. Up here in the last couple of months there has been someone approaching women in a not so healthy way on a hiking trail that is pretty popular + nothing on whether they've caught the guy.

• Angry Grandma: And no kidding about the city dangers. The scariest dude I ever met in the woods was a bear. You can't reason with a bear. Or kick his butt.

• angry grandma: Dulls the senses. Ha, ha, ha! We used to camp as a family when I was younger. It was a tradition. My grandma and I would always drive up first to set up camp before anyone arrived. That time with her is very special to me. We devised a game dubbed "the road-kill game" to pass the time. Yeah, we assigned a point system to road-kill. And my great-grandpa would wear a pot on his head to weird-out the little ones, saying it was protection from bats. Uh-huh, that side of my family is a little strange...and totally endearing. Tell your granddaughter she can catch-and-release (and then pray that no fish swallow the hook). I feel her pain though- I won't kill bugs either. If I find a spider in my house in the winter, I put it in the basement and hope it doesn't find it's way back. I don't get to camp as often as I'd like these days. Around the time the tradition died, I was a teen more interested in staying home by myself for the week while everyone else camped. Now I miss it, and all my friends who can take group vacations are too metro to camp. I'm sure your grandkids will treasure those memories forever.

• CCCCC, don't bring beer (i like it though) dulls the senses!! And most of the time i have 5 grandkids with me. So not a good roll model!!! I can't fish, my youngest granddaughter (age 7)claims we are killing them so if we try to fish, she purposely runs around yelling!!! Can't kill bugs (her and DiL are crunches!) and won't allow bugs to be killed. they both cry or scream. So we use alot of bug spray on ourselves and on the screen on the tent and a lot of citrocel candles! Go figure. Suppose to rough it and they want veggies in the middle of no where!!! But it's all good. We plan this every year. And every year it's gotten better. 4 tents on one lot! lots of privacy but still close. I'm the only one who has to share the tent with kids! I get the real young ones. so i have the largest cabin tent!!!! But it's fun. I want the kids to experience the out doors and know what the dangers are out there (ei SNAKES!!!! i'm scared to death of them) This will make them better prepared for most dangers in the city.

• angry grandma: That is some serious preparation. When I go camping, I consider myself prepared if I remember bait and a six-pack. Not much of a drinker usually, but it does go well with fishing and campfires.

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