Abelino Mazaniego Beaten to Death by Teens, Then Ripped Off by Nurse at Hospital

• who cares what race someone is a victim is a victim and a criminal is a criminal. That is what is wrong with so many people today, they only care if it is 1 of their own instead of having empathy for the human race. This is a horrible crime, and kids are acting out more and more and in groups. So sad for the future. I would never feel more sorry for someone just because they were my race nor would I defend someone just because they were my race. Everyone should know right from wrong and sympathize with any victim.

• D'oh correction: @ParisGuy: "They are, I hope, perhaps against hope, that they are very few." should read: "I hope, perhaps against hope, that they are very few." And, the last paragraph of my comment above should read: That there are many influences that bear various and variable weights in any person's decisions and resulting actions, all in fluid mix at all times, is not in dispute. However, it has been proven time and again, the most influential force on any person is that of their parents. Far and away. Thatisall.

• You mean to tell me you folks didn't see Joel Ackerman's assertion, above, first before reading my parody of it? "joel said: These incidents are the end result of all the <i>anti-immigrant talk</i> coming from the <i>right wing</i> of the country. Doesnt matter if they specify <i>legal or illegal</i> because some people make no distinction and this is what happens. Believe it. Posted 07/28/2010 at 05:10:13 PM" [emphasis mine] To which I riposted (only, formatted better): "alexa kim said: "These incidents are the end result of all the <i>tolerating of illegal activity</i> coming from the <i>left wing</i> of the country. Doesn't matter if the <i>illegal activity is small or large</i> in criminality because some people make no distinction." That's where I end the parody. I ended with the better message: "Criminal activity happens because people choose to commit crimes opportunistically. They are responsible for their criminal actions. "Believe that more. "Posted 07/28/2010 at 11:12:36 PM" @Officer Pat, could not agree with you more. I am firm believer in the death penalty. @Dickdickdickdick... I'm ignoring what you say, as you have elsewhere suggested I should. @ParisGuy, I agree; and thank you. There are a number of people who do have a difficult time knowing when fiction and fantasy end and reality begins. They are, I hope, perhaps against hope, that they are very few. @Pete, it would appear that by your last comment here you may have read Joel's comment and then mine again and realized where I was going. That there are many influences that bear various and variable weights in any person's decisions and resulting actions, it has been proven time and again, the most influential force on any person is that of their parents. Far and away.

• I don't know, Joel. I agree that Beck & Co. are debasing little demagogues who play on listeners fears for their own enrichment. I doubt they even believe half the shit they say. But while they prey on the fears of the Tea Party crowd, I doubt these little pussies ever even heard of Glenn Beck. My guess is they simply wanted a video of them beating the shit out of someone, and they merely picked an easy target, as is the way of punks since the beginning of time. I can't believe there's any political context to this story. It's just pure depravity.

• &#64;Alexa- Yeah, keep telling yourself that Glenn Beck and the rest of the anti-immigrant zealots on AM radio and in Washington don't create a climate of hate and that due to it these things happen. I think it's extraordinarily naive to believe that people aren't heavily influenced by demagogues in the media and in politics and then don't act accordingly with what they filled their heads with. It's great that you think everyone is able to be completely free thinking and autonomous but they are the exception to the rule and most people are conditioned to believe one thing or another whether it's in organized religions, capitalism or communism is the right way to organize, from the time they are old enough to talk. So in light of that, these attacks on immigrants are the direct result of right wing political rhetoric. Are you saying the left by allowing immigrants in are forcing people to attack them? That's twisted.

• The left wing caused four kids to beat up on a middle-aged cook in an affluent New Jersey suburb? How did you get that, Alexa?

• ALEXA KIM: indeed, your president is half-black, you're one of the very few people who noticed ! I don't think neither that there is any link: should George Bush or Bill Clinton be charged for crimes perpetrated on black people ? No, of course. Those who commit crime should take full responsibility and be held accountable, especially when not provoked.

• Sure enough the crime is a terrible offence and and the culprits should never walk free again. But i don't think the article should be filled with terms such as 'a**hole', 'd***head', etc... Apart from that, i believe that some people do not diffentiate reality from movies or video games. How many hours have these teens been playing games such as GTA, Saints Row, where the players score points for destroying properties, beating up people and the like ? We need to learn as a society to value hman life, respect your fellow neighbour, or the people we don't kow on the street.

• "These incidents are the end result of all the tolerating of illegal activity coming from the left wing of the country." Every time I think you can't possibly say anything dumber and every time you outdo yourself. Bravo!

• I'd like to beat this retarded looking fucking cunt to death with a baseball bat. His little pals too. I'd work the limbs first, tenderizing as I went, then the body. Then I'd leave them to die slowly from all the internal damage. I'm pretty sure that would give me a boner. :D

• Kill 'em. All four of 'em. Beat a man to death for no bloody reason, and you lose your right to exist any longer on this planet. End of story.

• Hate Crime Over Rap Music? Teen attacker warned whites "shouldn't be listening to rap music" h t t p ://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0728101rap1.html Does anyone think we should blame this crime on Obama One because it could be argued that blacks feel they have license to indulge some pay back because the president is half black? I don't.

• These incidents are the end result of all the tolerating of illegal activity coming from the left wing of the country. Doesn't matter if the illegal activity is small or large in criminality because some people make no distinction. Criminal activity happens because people choose to commit crimes opportunistically. They are responsible for their criminal actions. Believe that more.

• It is Doug. That's why I only read it once every couple of weeks. This site show how low people reduce themselves and how cheaply people view others. It's only going to get worse. Morals, values and codes of ethics have been pretty much eroding away...We live in scary times.

• OMG this poor man....UnFUcking Believeable! May he rest in peace!

• These incidents are the end result of all the anti-immigrant talk coming from the right wing of the country. Doesnt matter if they specify legal or illegal because some people make no distinction and this is what happens. Believe it.

• I hope you are not the only one Hammer-but I can see why you would think so. I wish I knew what is wrong with people but like you,I don't know. I just know every generation seems less moral,less compassionate and less human.

• Am I the only sane person with morals in my generation? Jesus Christ! What is wrong with people these days? Where did things go wrong in the parenting system of yesturday and common sense of today? I saw let these kids get beaten and man handled in jail every day and afterwards don't give them any medical treatment, it's less taxes for everyone else. And as for the nurse, how cold hearted to you have to be to steal from a man who was just beaten to death? What's wrong with people?

• &#64; Alexa kim Thank you but before you go giving me compliments you might want to check what I wrote about the Kustes girl. I hope I spelled her name right.

• &#64;ProblemSolver, we need a lot more fathers like you around. Bravo, totally agree, and well-said.

• Karyn Osborne, As a southern person I dont eat roadkill. and my son has always been called Bubba as a nickname. I am a transplanted yankee now, but have always considered my self a educated redneck. I drink beer out of a bottle not a glass and i love gospel music. I can pretty much verify that southerns (rednecks) dont eat roadkill either. That is a myth. And it's mostly for the mountain folks. But again, i don't think so. There are Piggly Wiggly's all over the place in the south not to mention Wally world sells food as well. I'm sorry, but i get a little upset whenever someone tries to put someone in their place and chooses to make comments that are degrading to a group of people as well. Even though i know you were not directing it that way, that's how it came out. But as far as you agreeing with me regarding discplining children. thank you I give Kudos to any parent who believes that a child will be more respectful with a firm hand then with a friend attitude. Damn, I knew this day was going to good for me to not be drawn in!!!! MEME, I wasn't telling him/her "like it is" I was informing a misinformed person the proper use of a vile word. And informing this person that all people have a right to be judged in a court of law. I don't like it sometimes, but will abide by the laws of our land. And i might express myself as to what i think punishment should be as well. But i choose to be human about it and not make stupid comments.

• Yeah "Angry Grandma" tell "Yep" like it is... what is wrong wit people these days???

• This has nothing to do with anyone's ethnic background ... "Yep" you are a "Bubba" ... "Yep" do you eat your road kill too ...?? I agree with "Problemsolver" and "Angry Grandma". If you do not discpline your children they will run over you and give you no respect. I have a great example, my two daughters and their children. One daughter "laughed" at everything they did when small and now my grandchildren can't understand why it is not funny anymore! The other daughter tells them no and gives them a swat on the butt if needed.

• Ok, I saw the Klan comment and had to jump in. I tried to NOT comment, but i couldn't fight it any longer. As a granddaughter of a Grand Wizard (ages ago) gotta put my 4 cents in. (And i'm NOT PROUD of it) Problemsolver, i agree attitudes like that are part of our general problems now a days. And Klan meetings are not scheduled. They are "spur of the moment" whenever someone gets a bug up their butt!!! LOL And Yep: The word "nigger" actually means a piece of burn drift wood. And how dare you pass judgement such as you have condoning murder? You are not judge nor jury. You are a ignorant person who is just spewing whatever you think will cause choas. Grow the F*** up and come into the 21st century where most humans allow justice to be judged in a court of law. Not "Klan" law! Maybe someone should tie you to a tree, strip you and whip you until you bleed and beg for death you piece of S***

• &#64;Yep Sounds like you might be late for your Klan meeting. Your attitude is part of the problem today.

• &#64; Angry Grandma, One other thing I should mention, that one whipping my kids received when they were young, it was just one whack on the butt with my hand. That was all it took. From that time on they knew that I would not take any shit from either of them and they still to this day know it. Lastly they also respect me for it when I tell them about it from time to time whenever the subject comes up about kids doing stupid things or whenever they tell me about one of their friends being in trouble of some type.

• &#64; Angry grandma I am one very proud and loving Dad. And you are right, the situation in America today is a sad one when it comes to parents and kids. Very sad indeed.

• Hey Problemsolver, Great DAD (or MOM?) Kudos for the not sparing the rod to spoil the child! More parents need to grow some and man up to the fact that our kids a preached to day in and day out that a parent disapplinting (sorry broken spell check again!!!!) is child abuse!!!!!!! Which makes them little weazels!!! and think they got us over a barrel. WRONG! As i have always said: Babies dont come with owner manuals. So we all learn as we go. some learn whatever was shown to them. other's choose to just let the kid go on whatever attitude. other's choose to teach respect, honor and morals. Pretty sad uh?

• After the one whipping my kids got when ever we went any where if the kids started acting up in any way all I had to do was look at them and they instantly knew they had F***ed up and stopped what they were doing and came to me and stood by my side until I told them they could move again. Have never had to lay another hand on them except to hug and hold them.

• Wow so now we have vultures circling the dead in nurses scrubs? Yuck! This poor man.

• CW... Yeah agree. And i think you are correct about the "nurse". This wasn't a first time affair. this f*cker has done this some many times, he's got it down pat. Right to the lying. That's why hospitals want to to NOT have anything of value with you in the hospital. Stealing happens more then most people know. My sister was just telling me the other night, when she was in hospital a few weeks ago, she happened to wake up (said something woke her) while she was cat knapping. To see the cleaning woman come out of the bathroom with her notebook computer under her arm. Woman thought my sister was sleeping. It was on the side of the bed, and the woman must have picked it up (it was on the battery not electricty). My sister started screaming, which scared the woman, who jumped and dropped the computer. My Bro in law rushed in, just in time to see the woman try and run out the room. he blocked her while the nurses rushed in. My sister couldn't get out of bed at all, so she couldn't charge her! Anyways, the puter was still sitting on the floor next the the room door. Security took computer and the woman out. I guess the cops were called, and after interviewing my sister, gave back the puter. Seems the woman (spanish) claimed not to speak english and told them that she "found" it in the bathroom! Well they searched her cleaning cart. thing was filled with stolen stuff. jewerly, cash, cig, ect. Sorry for story everyone. Just thought it followed into story about stealing nurses.

• Hey Problem solver-I agree 100%. My daughter got her ass whipped one time only and that was all it took. As for the story? execute those little pricks and cut the hands off the nurse for stealing...because we all KNOW he's done this many many times.

• &#64; ProblemSolver: I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have always said that there is a major difference between beating (abusing) and whipping (disaplinting) a child. the CPS would have us "time out" all problems! Let's face it, you put a kid in a chair in time out enuff, they grow to accept it. Attention is attention whether it is good or bad attention. If you are out in a store or somewhere and your kid does something, you have to wait until you get home (no matter how long it takes) then put them into time out. After a few minutes they have already forgotten what they did and then they figure you did too. and they figure that they got away with something bad. Sorry, short story: When my 28 yr old daughter was 4, we were in a mall walking. she took off running and i grabbed her and swatted her on the ass. One time! I had the cops called on me by some guy walking around the mall. I was arrested and my mom was able to take the kids home. I was released later that day. When i went to court, i was charged with child abuse. Boy did i fight that. I told the judge exactly what happened. And he agreed with me that if i had waited til i got home, she would have forgotten what she had did. And wouldn't understand WHY i was punishing her. the case was thrown out and i was free. BUT.... then came the nightmare of the 80's witch hunt by CPS.... But i got through and never lost my kids. I have never beat my kids black and blue. I have never hit them in the face. I have never used anything on them but my hand! But they got a swat on the ass when it was called for! And the same with my grandkids! And if they threaten you (like the schools preach for them to do), then call the cops and tell them to come get the kid. they won't but the kid don't know that. Been there and done that!!!! So kudos, Problemsolver!!!! Rock on

• I feel bad for the future of America.

• My sister had a problem with one of her sons. She threatened to whip him and he told her that if she put one finger on him that he would call the police on her. When I heard this I told my sister that she made a BIG mistake. When she asked how I told her that if it would have been me and my son said that to me then I would have gotten the phone and dialed 911 and put the phone in his hand. While he is talking to the police I would have been steadily whipping his ass and would continue to whip his ass until the police showed up. I might have had to go to jail but one fact is certain, my son would for ever more think twice about 1)doing something stupid 2)threating me 3)backtalking anyone older than he is and 4)learning a word called RESPECT. You have to show it to earn it. Luckily both my kids are on the straight and narrow and the way they got there was by getting one ass whipping each when they were little. I can proudly say that my kids have never given me reason to whip them at all after that first and only time. My daughter is now 22 and my son is 18. Both have jobs and both lead very respectable lives. If the parents of today would just stand up and DEMAND the one God given right of disiplining their kids like they are suppose to do there would not be half as much trouble with kids these days.

• This is the 2nd beating death of a minority person in NJ in a month... Another person was attacked by a group of teens in Old Bridge while walking with his family. I guess it's the "Gangsta Wannabe" culture. Summit is a very affluent town, and Old Bridge is not poor either. I hope that the "alleged perpetrators" find out in prison what true "gangstas" position is on racially motivated hate crime...

• So very sad. So where's the crossing guard who beat the teenager for bullying. We could use him here to teach these kids a lesson. And the nurse should loose his hand. My heart goes out to this poor man's family.

• Wow.....the things kids do today is unfreakingbelievable! Whatever happened to the days when they just rode bikes or played ball when they were bored?

• CT, I think the nurses out there are all under the motto of: Do for me and the Hell with you! I agree about the group of thugs. I hate being caught in a group of people cuz i don't know if someone is going to stab me (or someone else), rob me or just generally attack. That's why i posted the story of my night with my disabled car. That gave me a little faith in humanity. But these thug wanna bes throw water on that experience. And these videoed stunts are really starting to piss me off. This Utube site is promoting thugs, wanna bes, bullies and creeps. Someone should really check into it and police the site a hell of a lot better. Seems all everyone talks about are the "beat downs" on You tube! And i'm really tired of it. These punks and thugs do crap to see who can out do the others on there. One up them. Get there "colors" ect. thank God, i carry mace!!!!!

• 30 seconds is up. Wow, how awful and what a bunch of f*cking tools. I hope they get the same treatment when they get their trip to the "big house". They won't be so tough then I imagine. What is going on with kids these days? I read this stuff and then my husband wonders why I get concerned if we are anywhere were there is a group of kids hanging around and acting up. I live by - better safe not sorry anymore. It is sad but I trust no one when out in public. This guy was certainly minding his own business - just trying to support his family. I find it totally disgusting that these shitheads thought it was a game - someone's life was something to play with. And the nurse? What happen to the Nightengale Pledge? "I will do all in my power to maintain and elevate the standard of my profession." Sounds like he wasn't paying attention during graduation. @sshole.

• This has got to be the most depressing site ever. Seriously.

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