Anthony Bertolone, Moron of the Day: Drugged & Raped Fellow Frat Brother at Drake University

• Calm down Sigma Cry 

• If someone takes an oath then they should abide by all the policies and rules and regulations of that particular profession. One should see to it that things go well in people's favor.

• how are they antichristian just because they take an oath? lawyers, doctors, priests, and police take oaths too. the police are a fraternal order. does that make them antichristian? you must be one of those fanatical god will strike you down christians.

• I can't believe this actually happened, what a ridiculous situation this is why people that perform rituals, and take blood oaths, or any oath of allegiance to any fraternity, have already made a mistake. These organizations are very anti christian.

• Wow this is disturbing. I hope this jerk gets what is coming to him. I have to say I haven't ever heard of bro rape before this. I have to say that I only have had 1 gay friend that has talked to me about sex and he HATED anal but he did it anyway. I wasn't surprised when he told me this either. Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean their pain receptors or ick factor receptors (as many people have this reaction) are different. It's not like men are gay because they like anal or anything and I think sometimes people assume that (I know a lot of people personally who have acted that way). Of course, that doesn't mean there aren't gay men (or anyone else for that matter) that do like it. I think stuff like this is just a very individual, case-by-case thing. Thank you to the gay men who gave us their input (and the doctor, sorry I forgot your screen name) on the matter.

• @Taylor That is a TOTAL misrepresentation! Sometimes we like to stick it in COLD places too! Ha ha. The only difference between others and this one is that the thing between the ears fires off a few more times to say something along the lines of "this is probably going to land me in prison where I'll be ass-raped in a bad way, I think I'll pass this one time." So, yes, we can be truly disgusting but even to the most hardcore feminist there ARE those of us who actually think before we stick it in, I know in my case I've learned to hold back a little, makes it a bit more exciting.

• I like how they call this guy a degenerate. If that equates to idiotic frat boy then I agree. However, all men (especially college age) want to stick their penis' into all sorts of warm places, invited or not. That's what makes the subject so easy for me to write about. Men, bless their hearts, can be truly disgusting and reprehensible when the truth is revealed by their secrets lap top files. But I agree with Trajan - coke and acting gigs have been getting beautiful young men naked since Sal Mineo auditioned for Rebel Without a Cause. Actually, much, much longer than that.

• Things like this make all fraternities look bad and authors like this asshole use stereotypes to have something to write about. The guy is a total asshole and he's a mess, but the second you took the time to make your final comment about them "making him the president" you made a horrendous generalization about fraternities and what their members do.

• Yeah...and he was probably checking you out in your speedo or in the locker room....you dodged a bullet sandwich dj

• Hoooly crap! That is crazy! And I WAS ON THE SWIM TEAM WITH THIS KID IN HIGH SCHOOL!!!

• @ Sharon And most drunk teen girls kiss each other as party entertainment :) I see this ALL the time.

• @ Oppos3D From your comment: "....wow. really? I agree CT, how the eff would you not know? He has to be gay..." I am definitely not picking on you. There are a lot of other comments that went in the same direction. Yours was probably one of the cleanest one going this way but after reading the comments, the only impression it left was to ask myself...then what? Because a guy is gay does it make it ok to rape him? Obviously the answer I'd get would be no, that just explain why he wouldn't feel it but to me, it goes the same way as to excuse a rapist because his victim wore a miniskirt... You don't really need to answer but I am wondering if you will get my point...

• To all the commentators skeptical that you'd surely feel a dick having been up your ass, I suggest you try it.

• Um. Yikes. I attended Drake University, and I still live in DSM. this is awful...and creepy.

• Just want to add that my comments in NO WAY intended to insinuate that the man's rape should be downplayed AT ALL! I agree that rape is a violent crime, not a sexual one. I work with a woman who actually said that rape can only be a crime against women ~ WTF!!! Much to her dismay, I set her straight (no pun intended). My questions about anal sex came from a very personal place and I am thankful for the input from gay and straight people alike. After all, where the hell else can you ask questions like this if not anonymously on the TCR comment section??? One more question for the gals out there, do any of you LIKE to engage in anal sex? Do you just say no, or sometimes say yes to pleasure your man? As a woman I have no interest, but my husband assures me there is pleasure in it. Whereas it seems obvious there is pleasure in it for some men, I wonder if many women feel the same?

• holy hell-doesn't anyone sleep out here? LOL

• Ok you Romans, 'splain e vous. What is the chief difference, Marcus, that you see that would make Trajan more suitably called Hadrian?

• @ Trajan: Why don't you call yourself Hadrian? Wouldn't it be more appropriate?

• I know for a fact that bro rape is a common thing nowadays. Search it youtube and you'll see what it is. Most drunk teen boys....frat or not..get their jollies acting like they are having sex..doesn't matter with whom.

• What do you expect when you join a frat? Anyone who joins a frat is a closet fag.

• @Sharon, as could I!!! LOL. @diamondgirl9, no problem, I've got all kinds of time, I'm at work! :)

• @LouLou Thanks for taking the time. Damn I didn't know that had a name.

• Loulou...I could have lived the rest of my life happily without knowing that....lol I seem to have WAAAAAAY to much time on my hands today.

• @diamondgirl9....teabagging is when a dude puts his bag in some one's mouth....I just googled it. Lol.

• The issue here is everybody putting their opinnions as if they where the motherfucking universal god karma truth. ANY forced or un concensual sexual attitude ir rape, and anything can be done with your lover as long as both want to. For ex, Alexa I totally respect your position, but for some people this can be totally enjoyable, not that i do it all the time but my girls ass doesnt stink, lots of people enjoy every part of their lovers body.

• What is the meaning of "belt around the neck"? google "autoerotic asphyxiation" and you'll be an expert in no time

• <b>Trajan</b>, you said you watched Itty Bitty Gang Bang Volume 5 with a belt around your neck. What is the meaning of "belt around the neck"? Please, someone clue me in, thanks!

• No one said if they were gay or not (rape is an act of violence...not sex btw)... even if he were sodomized, there is nothing to say he didn't wake up feeling wrecked from what ever the dude used to drug him and chaulk it up to that..

• Nowhere in the article did it state he sodomized the guy. The fact that a lot of you guys automatically go there says more about you than you probably intend.

• How dare you sad, sad people make such a spectacle of this, much less indicate the victim is wrong or bad for not knowing! This is the reason sexual assault is so underreported in our country -- people placing undue blame on the victim. I think it's awful what this student has done, and sincerely hope that the proper action is taken by the police, the university, and organizations he is (was) a member of. I also hope the victim receives all the support he will inevitably need in order to cope with this kind of emotional trauma. Obviously, this individual is well deserving of your 'Moron of the Week' title, but much of the commentary that follows this article is degrading and disheartening.

• And would one of you sex without borders devotees please tell diamondgirl9 what teabagging is?

• It's not so unusual that your freinds and coworkers might have a desire to have a sexual relationship with you, yet not wish to reveal it. I'm a 47 year old gay attorney and, while i never make a move on them, i have a couple of young guys working in my office (18-22) who never miss an opportunity to let me know they'd love to have sex with me. I always pass, but i wouldn't be surprised to find one of them had put something in my drink, then my ass.

• cool bear, I know that doctors have also said that we cannot catch anywhere near the kinds of germs we think we can from a public toilet seat. Doctors also used to say that smoking was good for us. Uh-huh. Sorry, but I have a penile reception organ specifically designed for sexual pleasure. I'm not stuck on missionary or the like, at all. But why keep harping on sex via a non-sexual organ, via the waste disposal hatch, when as db said above, there's a vagina RIGHT THERE? You will never convince me that the majority of women LIKE anal sex, or that the majority of people LIKE anal sex. I can understand how the male's prostate feels good when stimulated from that direction but I don't have a prostate, so, that doesn't fly for those of us who don't. Nope, women who claim to LOVE anal sex are either lying or have something way different about them. Whatever. The poop chute has waste in it. It's supposed to. Unless you really clean it out beforehand, that waste will end up on your dick. And WHY would that be ok with you? Sorry, you will never convince me that taking that risk makes sense. Never. Especially when there are so many other options for having sexual decadence much more cleanly and safely.

• I am gay and a physician, with many gay clients. There are certainly instances where people have been injured by anal intercourse, but it's not at all common. There are obviously a lot of psychological issues around men's feeling that they have been violated if they've been fucked--whether they're gay or straight doesn't really make much difference--but it is worth noting that there are no conclusive studies that anal intercourse necessarily causes any problems whatsoever, in either the short or long term. (There are lots of interesting small studies suggestive of a higher rate of anal cancer and particularly of herpes among men who get fucked, but they are far from conclusive. The point I wish to emphasize is that, to the unbiased mind, there's nothing remotely confirming the notion that dicks aren't supposed to go up asses, and that there are "natural" consequences to trying it out. It is useful to remember that one hundred years ago or so, it was universally believed that it was "obvious" that men should not manually induce orgasm in themselves through masturbation, indeed that this was the number 1 cause of all forms of insanity; that women who experienced orgasm were insane; and that inducing orgasm in women with the hands or mouth would render hem infertile. In each instance, the argument was, as with the prejudices about anal intercourse, that they were obviously not "natural" sexual practices. Finally, it should be noted that there is no reason whatsoever why anyone should be expected to notice soreness after being anally penetrated without their knowledge, especially if they were under the influence of a drug that acts as a muscle relaxer. It might seem that way to someone who has had no experience, or to someone who has had a bad experience, but it is not the case. Anal intercourse does not have to be physically traumatic. Some sexual researchers are starting to suggest that heterosexual men are just as much disposed to anal eroticism as homosexual men. It is true that not as many women seem to enjoy it, but the obvious difference is that men get pleasure from the stimulation of the prostate (which in many men, as in other mammals, may be enough in itself to induce a very intense orgasm). Sex toys used for anal penetration are in wide use among heterosexual men, and there has been kind of a vogue for pegging, or being penetrated by a woman with a strap-on. Men would not do it it didn't feel good.

• What is teabagging?

• Sadly, RAPE comes in all kinds of forms, and is not just being corn-holed. Dirty Frat Boy #1 could have slipped Frat Boy #2 a mickey, then had oral sex with him, or masturbated him, played with his butt without total penetration... it's all rape. Even teabagging is rape, but usually people always assume complete anal penetration. Not so good times...

• maybe he didn't feel it because the dude is a gentle lover. heh.

• I wonder why then do straight men want to do this? Any straight men willing to give a solid answer and not something we'd hear from a 15 year old boy?

• I'm gay, but most of my guy friends are straight, and they've pounded (or want to pound) more ass than I ever have. I have heard so many stories from guys trying to get their women to let them in the back door. I don't understand why when there is a perfectly good vagina RIGHT THERE. It doesn't really appeal to me at all, but if pressed, I do the plugging. It's just not a real sexy scene for me, and most of the guys I have been with feel the same. I mean, of course I HAVE gone there, but I'd be cool if it never happened again.

• Phyllis, maybe YOUR vagina wouldn't pass the sniff test! Hahahahahahahah!! If, that is, you have a real vagina. Just sayin', you sound a little like a gay guy with a long festering hatred for Christians. But hey, the same biological rule applies: if it stinks, leave it alone. I didn't read that in the Bible, or the BuyBull either. My perspective has nothing to do with religion, as a matter of fact. Because if it did, I'd say so, trust me, I wouldn't be shy about it. No, it comes from common sense. From nature's design. Comprende? Fan of Howard Stern? I'm not. But he agrees with me. :::: Anon, hey, anything is possible. In the words of those who love the dick in the bum and treat it like a religious custom that we are not allowed to make fun of (how Muslim!) just because you don't think so, doesn't mean it's not true for someone.

• All of the "facts" about gay sex you seem to be hearing from your "gay" friends seem to be a bit off. All of my gay friends engage in anal sex and I know very few, if not none at all, that don't like it. You can't get hemmoroids from anal sex. Ask a doctor. You're just perpetuating ignorance. And gay guy chiming in? You're in a gay relationship and have NEVER had anal? Yeah. Right.

• Third degree sexual assault? Why not first degree?

• I first heard this urban legend back in the 80's. It's all fake, people. With the correct precautions, anal sex is perfectly safe and causes no lasting problems. It does not cause fissures or hemorrhoids, etc. It may hurt the first time, but rarely does after that. And there is all plenty of evidence online that men like it both ways if you know where to look.

• I'm a gay man, and my husband and I have never had anal sex. I know a lot of people who love to do it though -- a lot of them are straight, some of them are women, and for most of them it has nothing to do with controlling someone. It's always puzzling that so many straight people's minds seem to automatically go to the anus when they imagine man-on-man sex. (Women have anuses too, by the way.) There is no indication in this story that the assault has anything to do (or not) with any particulat body part. My imagination is not so limited. It could have been a thousand different things the guy did, and not even necessarily below the waist.

• &#64;alexa kim, you are way too dumb to be so self-satisfied and self-cherishing.

• I will say i couldn't get the questions out of my mind. So i did some nasty research online last night. And Phyllis is correct. If the muscle in the anus is totally relaxed and not stressed. A person, famale or male, can have anal sex and not be aware of it. they may have an idea, but without an exam, nothing would be known. When a person (again male or female) is violently raped anally, the damage is due to the fact that the person has tensed up and is stressed and the first muscle to freeze is the anus. I couldn't believe what i read. Good to know though. But, my back door is permanently locked and has exit privileges only.

• I figured, since I'm gay, and a few of you people in here are actually curious about this and considerate, I'll answer from my own perspective. Not every gay guy in the world likes anal sex (either receiving or giving) just like not every straight chick in the world likes giving or receiving oral sex (or anal sex) or what-have-you. The world is a VERY diverse place and people have differing interests and pleasures and those are generally PRIVATE between two consenting adults. What differentiates this is that ONE of those adults was obviously not consenting. There is a great deal of second guessing as to what kind of sexual transgressions occurred, but if YOU were the victim of a rape, I doubt you would want everyone to know every little detail of it. The bottom line is that this man was raped and deserves privacy and respect rather than slander and innuendo. Gay people, such as myself, deserve tolerance and respect, as well. What we don't deserve is people "guessing" as to what we do in bed, just as we won't be guessing at what you do (Nor do we really want to know).

• "If the videos would have involved an incapacitated woman, we're guessing they would have made Bertolone president for life." As a man and as a Sigma Chi brother I find this ignorant comment to be extremely insulting and even slanderous. I don't know ANY man who would applaud a woman being raped though I've heard MANY men AND WOMEN joke about, and laugh about, men being raped.

• &#64; CT: It is a myth that if someone put his thing inside you, you are sore the whole week or stuff. It's just to scare dumb homophobes. If you are relaxed -as the unconscious raped guy was- you won't know shit. I mean, unless the rapist is exceptionally endowed and causes real damage.

• "If the videos would have involved an incapacitated woman, we're guessing they would have made Bertolone president for life." What a douche-bag way of reporting. Not sure what is worse, anal rape or having to read Pete's social commentary disguised as news. Grow up, Pete.

• it's all fun and games until you post the vids online.

• Alexa Kim ignorantly says: "When people ignore all the natural, biologically perfect warning signals about where to go and where to avoid, such as, oh, THE SMELL, then, we as a species continue to suffer from the being held back by them. How can we progress if we still have individuals who want to defy everything that makes sense? I ask you, how?" Using Alexa's "sniff test" -- most vaginas wouldn't pass the test, sweetie. So, get over yourself and go back to reading your BuyBull...

• For crying out loud, you IDIOTS. Enough with this "oh, why wasn't his butt sore the next day? How could he have NOT known?" Good gawd, wake up and take an Anatomy and Physiology 101 course. Your anus (sphincter) is a muscle. It expands and contracts as needed -- for those of us who have had one of those rather large poops from timt to time, you can pass a turd out, larger than any frat boy's dick, and a half hour later you have no muscle memory or pain as a result. Because it's a MUSCLE, and that's how it works. The next day, he probably had no idea what had happened. Grow up. People dont walk funny the next day after anal sex, just because "that's how they act in the movies"... This may all seem funny to you, but someone getting drugged and raped like this isn't funny at all. And your sophomoric attitudes about it don't put you, or anyone else, in a better light.

• "If the videos would have involved an incapacitated woman, we're guessing they would have made Bertolone president for life." Wow. If you're suggesting that fraternities encourage raping women, you're fucked up author. You're probably jealous of the guy who got raped. NO ONE encourages rape.

• Anyone ever hear the joke "if you went camping with your friends and woke up the next morning with a sore ass and a bunch of used condoms laying next to you would you tell someone?" if the person says no You reply "Wanna go camping" Well apparently neither would this guy! until he had a damn video of him being raped in the ass. BTW how long did the guy watch the videos snickering,laughing and saying "wow Anthony is a perv" before he realized the joke was on him.

• What's the source of this story? I don't see any attribution

• The raped students conversation with police: It was the darndest thing,every night Anthony and I would spend the night somewhere I would wake up wearing nothing but a shirt and a sticky hurt bum! I don't remember going to bed the nights before and every time I farted all I smelt was Vaseline. I started noticing indentations in my poop too! I had no idea I was being ass raped all along! Seriously though! how loose does you ass need to be to not notice it was violently raped by your best friend the night before?

• Hey Janika do ya wanna come to a party?

• For those of you asking "how did he not know something has been there," 2 words: small penis.

• What is up with the last sentence? It kills the whole article's legitimacy. They would have made him president for life? Wtf?

• &#64;JD: Fisteroboto

• I don't know about you guys, but when I drink so much that I black out, the first thing I need to do when I wake up is take a sloppy, wet, fire *****. Maybe dudes are raping me while I'm unconscious, I wouldn't be able to tell. But, hey, that's what happens when you fall asleep with your shoes on.

• Well, if you went camping, and when you woke up, you didn't remember a thing, but your ***** was really sore and moist, would YOU tell anyone?

• Yeah never heard the "ether bunny" urban myth before... uuu eediots!

• A collection of sheep is called a flock. A collection of wolves is called a pack. A collection of gay rapists is called a fraternity.

• &#64;Trajan Have you talked to Kenny Loggins about this? Because you're in the DANGER ZONE.

• Damn this guy and that little weasle smirk on his face puts me in a punching mood. I think I'd like to bloody my knuckles on this guys face.

• Can't trust anyone these days and I hope his new cell mates return the favor.

• Sorry for the graphic description here, but people, you need to think about this a little more. If you use a lot of lube and the person isn't too rough, you're not going to feel it the next day. Penis sized poops pass through your butt every day. Your butt is well primed for this kind of thing.

• I agree.

• "If the videos would have involved an incapacitated woman, we're guessing they would have made Bertolone president for life." HA!

• and i'd also like to add - if bertolone was an ace at clean up, he wouldn't have videos. that's just totally counterintuitive. and if homeboy had been doing this to his friend for a year, at some point, you'd start noticing some ass pain or perhaps strange and unaccounted for wet spots, crusticles, etc...i'm sorry but sometimes, even if you don't remember it, you know you got fucked.

• This is probably the most poorly written article I've ever read. Please go back to school Pete Kotz.

• has anyone considered sex regret in this case? i mean seriously. yea we don't know the details of the videos and what exactly happened. but, i have to say, if there was anal penetration, even if the perp had a small penis, or even just used his digits, you'd know something wasn't right when you woke up the next day and recalled that you in fact did not have a mexican food induced evacuation. is it not possible that the victim might actually just like homo stuff and maybe not really want his reputation tarnished in the event the videos got out? don't most people know at this point that if you aren't a paid porn star, don't videotape yourself getting kinky? i mean, some serious steps would have to have been taken by the dude in order to cover up the act after the fact. there's re-dressing the victim, cleaning up any "spills", basically removing evidence that sometimes i can't even take care of at the laundromat. i guess i look at it like this - if one frat boy is willing to do something like this, then certainly, there's another one to agree to it (and then change his mind later.)

• People who aren't in fraternities can be rapists too

• re-read and retract my statement, no victim Id in the article. Back to your dissonance free stereo-typing.

• Hilarious frats are gay joke! How come it is alright to publicize the victim's name here? Would it be the same for a female victim?

• Wouldnt be the first time, Sigma Chi has been charged with some sexual assult crimes at Marquette University, milwaukee wisconsin.. I go there, apparently one of their alumni members shows up to a party and drug date raped a chick. Sigma Chi = Rapist Fraternity.

• i see nuthing wrong with what bro-tolone did. he was dumb to tape it tho

• Hey DickDick, first, seriously, when is next appointment for anus bleaching that my uncle can schedule? He has to go back to Guanahuato this week. Next, there's someone over at "Jamar Pinkney" calling himself Gas Chamber Supporter saying some pretty uncool things about you. At least, I think he is. That hazmat suit is awful sexayyy on you!!! Woohoo!!!

• SO MUCH VICTIM BLAMING GOING ON. It's seriously why rape is unreported? People always ask the victim why this? and why that? How about, hey, WHY ARE YOU RAPING SOMEONE YOU ASSHOLE?! If the guy had some a really great job of preparing the victim, it can account for not feeling anything the next day, or a little soreness, but not enough to think, "wow, by butt hurts, maybe I was ass-raped by my buddy." Yeah, denial + circumstances can lead to this not being "felt." Idiots.

• I think Alexa is flirting with me. I got my hazmat suit on, lets PARTY! :D

• It was just simple curiosity that brought me to a porn site. But trust me, never EVER click on anything that says "poop-sex"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will be so glad you didn't. I didn't understand what they meant by that phrase and it only took a second to find out---so00000000 NOT COOL! I was only there for a second and it think it cured me from viewing any type of porn for good! Seriously demented and not human ~ waaaaaay weird.

• :o

• OMG!! What in the name of all that is holy have I "stepped" into hear? Anal fissures, hemmorriods, Japanese feces!..Good God I feel sooooooo dirty now, must soak in bleach. As for anal sex...hell I hate taking a big poop...sure as hell ain't going to try to get anything to go in the exit only door! *shudders* lol

• It never said the victim was sodomized. There are other sexually exicit things that would be rape that aren't buttsex.

• I've heard it causes hemmoroids and such. This is from a gay man. It's not for me either.

• I guess i don't feel it is degrading as long as it is consensual. I remember a college friend--female--who was really into it. She said she enjoyed anal sex and felt safer since she wouldn't get pregnant. It is interesting what Angry Grandma said about her gay friend. I've always wondered if there were repercussions to anal sex that we just don't hear about? Does it create anal fissures, for example? Then again I would wonder that because, as I said before, I have more than 1 "issue" in that area and all of them are painful! BTW, none of MY issues are due to anal sex for DAMN sure!!! i

• holy hell-thankfully I have not heard of that particular fetish and I am grateful lol

• were can i see the vids?

• True... Of course I wouldnt want to purposely degrade my wife though! I can see your point though and its definately not the weirdest thing i've heard. How about the fetish in japan with feces??? Now THATS nasty!!!!

• &#64; Alexa, Yes, I think I'm on caffeine overload right now. Probably could use something alcoholic to chill out a bit. I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me over anything, but please, make a cogent argument and stick to what's actually been said, not what you wanted to hear. They don't address the actually point being debated, so I find their responses to be disingenuous. I think they perceive people disagreeing with them as an attack on their children for being disabled, which is absolutely not my (nor most of the posts I've seen) intent.

• hey Oppos3d - maybe that is why some men like it? it's degrading to the woman? just a thought...

• &#64;jj I think it is demoralizing and an insult to the person taking it. I would never try this on my wife because I would feel as though I were degrading her. Of course that is merely my opinion. Other people are fascinated with it, but definately not me...

• Most guys appear to like anal sex. All the porno sites have tons of this activity - on women, of course. And, none of the women seem to be enjoying it either, but the men sure look like they are enjoying it! I think it is weird~ not at all interested (much to my husband's disappointment). he would never push the issue because he knows I have issues there AND because we have such great sex!! But, if I was up for it, he would definitely enjoy it. Hubby says it is interesting to men because it is soooo bad. I'd like to know what other men think about this...

• &#64; angry grandma: Depends on what state you are in. In Texas, we do not have rape. We call it sexual assault. It is defined in the Penal Code as "caus[ing] the penetration of the anus or sexual organ of another person by any means, without that person's consent." The code also makes it illegal to penetrate the mouth of another person with a sexual organ without their consent.

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvTRQr7ns8 okay bro wish me luck

• OKAY BRO WISH ME LUCK!

• Now this is messed up. Gross!

• &#64;Kristin, Yeah, I didn't ask too many questions, if ya' know what I mean, but I assumed that they had to do stuff like boil their butt plugs and such and EWWWWWWW... so I would just nod and not ask anything. Yeah. I understand about the Paul Blankbrain post and I agree. We're just talking about common sense and common courtesy both of which is now uncommon. Oy vey already!!!! I've been in your shoes too a couple times here and it is no fun when people start to pile on just because it's so much easier in web space than meat space. You hold on pretty darn well so I'm not worried about you, I'm worried about them LOL!!!! But between me, cw, and others, you will not be swinging alone. Ready for something on the rocks or a brew? =) Oh hey, cw, good one - prost!!

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