Sladjana Vidovic Suicide: Parents Sue Mentor School Saying Daughter Was Bullied to Death

• Suicidal compulsions usually occur in people with severe mental illness, otherwise suicide simply defies evolution and strife for survival. I think Sladjana's parents are hiding her psychiatric records, or she had never been properly diagnosed by a psychiatrist. It's possible that Croations have a strong bias towards mental illness or they just don't understand it, and it's seriously stigmatized there, as well as, by the way, homosexuality. They can probably kill you for kissing your homosexual partner on the street or ostracize you completely for schizophrenia. Killing yourself is not a normal reaction to what's transpiring in your environment. I survived such brutal comments on myself. People would comment on my bleached blond hair insinuating that it was just ugly or unacceptable, or even straight white teeth. It sounds rediculous in the US, where people with these type of attributes actually think too much of themselves and are treated very well.

• In defense of America: I believe this girl died from her own biases. I personally see nothing wrong with having an accent. There are Americans, who like accents, and if this girl hadn't been so predjudiced against her own accent, it wouldn't have bothered or offended her as much when those bullies were making fun of it. The same is with moles and country of origin. Some cultures, including some Americans, consider moles attractive. I have a mole as well, the Marylin Monroe type on my left cheek, and every time I try to conceal it, I look less attractive.  Also, if this girl hadn't viewed Croatia as a shithole herself, but a great country, it wouldn't have hurt her when somebody told her to go back there. I don't think an American living in Croatia, would get bothered, to the point of commiting siucide, if some Croatian told them to go back to the US, because Americans are proud of their country, and think of it as the best. I actually view her suicide as an insult to me, and it makes me really angry. It almost suggests that if you have moles, accent and you're not from the US, you should just go and kill yourself. All you have to do is stop being so predjudiced against yourself in the first place!

• Just keep borrowing trillions of dollars from China, and very soon all of you will be speaking Chinese. You also owe 90 million dollars to Russia... Just pick the better looking ones to imitate.

• I'm a mixture of Belgium, Irish, Scottish, French, German, Spanish AND English. So what language should I use?

• you "sound" familiar. Did you post under another name here before?

• I tried to log in when all that was going on but couldn't.  Now I'm back, so we'll keep our fingers crossed.

• *not getting sucked in*

• I'm not???? Wish you would tell the IRS that, might save me a little cash.

• I didn't know you were gaiety Pete. But it's ok if you are.

• We're all fucked...Golden Girl-itis epidemic...but seriously, I don't think I wanna be on TCR if this shit's gonna be everywhere...I'm a tard, I might hit something on my keyboard and accidentally open one of those links and then I'm fucked...

• yeah there is a virus floating through I believe... it was spamming here... I got an email too, but you might try to log in again

• The site is acting all up for me .... when logged into disqus the recent comments were covered in spam from Leah.  Now being logged out I cannot go directly to a recent comment when I click on it in the recent comments section.  When I click, it does take me to the story, like here, but a ton of stuff is missing that I know was here earlier.  Anyone else having problems?

• we obviously force him to live here too

• lol has that troll stank all over it doesn't it

• After realizing that all Americans are like you, as you are trying all Americans to be portrayed, America absoultely lost its appeal.  Who, on earth, would want to be in America, if they'll have to coexist with someone like you. You're totally right. I'd rather go to a better country. And that's exactly the point I've been trying to make.

• I'm American, so English is my native language.  But since your passion is to deflect rather than to debate (much like a certain troll who lurks around here periodically) I will follow your advice and mind my own business.  Cheers.

• You don't know anything about me either, so I wouldn't make any assumptions, if I were you, and just mind my own business. All you can do is protect your country and its language from foreign infusion as much as you can, because the people, who forced that culture and language on you (I am sure you're not English) will be extremely disturbed, in case you decide to be open-minded. You must always suck up to the best and the most powerful, like all smart Americans, because every other culture in the US is simply too primitive to adapt and impose on poor brutalized Americans. Good job!

• Then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

• You've indicated that you are in the U.S., where  English is the official language (and you write it fairly well).  How is speaking the language of the country that you're in equate to having English forced upon you?

• Which has nothing to do w/ Viv's statement.

• It means - I don't give a fuck about you, your ( or adopted and forced upon you) English that I don't want to be forced on me because there is nothing wrong with loving yourself.

• Don't eat it.

• Since you know nothing about my diet, I hardly think you're in a position to judge whether or not I unknowingly ingest anything.  As for the alleged synonyms, I find no evidence of such a word as "cancerogenous," not even in a medical dictionary.  Apparently it is not used in this country.

• What does "sweapping porces" mean?

• Money is the root of all evil.

• Your spelling is definitely superb, and you seem to be intelligent enough to distinguish between carcinogenic and cancerogenous, (which are synonyms), however, you are not intelligent enough to realize that you ingest them for no reason at the expense of yourself, and you are definitly not intelligent enough to do anything about it.

• Well, before you stop sweapping porces in Iraq and Afganistan and everywhere else, where you are NOT WELCOME, I should at least be able to say, as an American citizen, that American food is bad for my health.

• Uh, I feel pretty sure anyone conducting the research you claim would know that the term is "carcinogenic," not "cancerogenous."

• certainly sounds like you are more worried about how we deal with things here than in your own home.... sweep off your own porch before you tell me how to sweep mine

• This is not MY bulshit though. That would be the American one. Sorry. If you wish to worry about your own life in America, then you should probably start worrying about your own life as well. If I were you, sending all immigrants back to where they came from, would be the last priority on my list, because immigrants don't really have anything to do with you. May be you should start with things than directly concern you, like the food you eat. In this case, you should probably go beyond the scope of what is directly affecting you, like food industries, and tell them to go fuck themselves. \\\ I think whoever was in the US first, before your parents or grandparents' arrival here, did a botched job on kicking them out the US, that's why they had to kick all the natives. Whay a way to conquer a territory. I wish I could do the same to anyone, who tries to kick me out. I just don't understand why modern Americans think it's impossible.

• thanks sweetie

• True. Hey, Happy Birthday.

• yeah and those sucky freedoms we have too

• So  stfu and worry about your own life in your own country... and save your bullshit for them.

• You don't have to become an American, but don't think you are justified in coming on here a bashing them, if you don't have to like them, live with them or even know them, then why the hell should it matter to you what or how we Americans act.  Take care of your own country first, then worry about ours.

• bet y'all love the American dollar.

• But it is ok for you to come on here and bitch about Americans, gee that wouldn't make us feel bad huh?

• "Did you get an invite from an american? Americans don't want you." I know. However, forcing me out of the United States would be like forcing a Jew out of a concentration camp before they are entirely incinerated. Furthermore, there are so many Americans out there, who don't want you in America either, whoever you are. Not only that, they probably want you dead as well. I assure you. The reason why I am here is because I am conducting a research on chemically infused food sold in chain supermarkets, and its effects on human health. These days, a packaged apple pie contains more than 20 chemicals that are not only cancerogenous, but they can also bleach your skin to make you look whiter. The more health issues you'll have, the more profit the healthcare industry will suck out of you, kiddo. Another of my researches is measuring the impact of paying high monthly rent on human's stress level that can trigger anything from mental illness to even AIDs, believe it  or not, by tremendously weakening your immune system, to which you might otherwise be resistent. It seems that you are one of those Americans, who is willing to tolerate all this just to be in America, to the point of allowing Americans to generate immense profits off you at the expense of you. Trust me, all truly intelligent Americans left America a long time ago, and are having a fantastic life in countries like Ireland, for instance, among many others. Powerful Americans, the "predator", are gradually driving the weaker America the "prey" to extinction because weaker Americans are too cowardish to push back to create true balance of power. I feel terribly bad for them. Other than that Americans and their culture of human brutalization present very little or no interest to me.

• Plus you can't force people to like you when you're so unlikable. It would be like forcing Americans to like foreigners. I am sure powerful Americans would never stand for something like this. So why would I and anyone else fed up with American crap like myself?

• "Did you get an invite from an american? Americans don't want you."I understand why you don't want ME. It's because I don't like America, and I don't even want to be here in particular because tolerating American cruelty is not my kind of thing. However, why didn't you want Sladjana?  She was a nice America-loving girl! Or, you don't discriminate against foreigners no matter what they feel about Americans?  

• I guess that's all you can do.

• Well since you don't like us very much why don't you stay on your side and I'll stay on mine.

• Okay, so we may be arrogant and delusional, but I'd bet you'd have a good time if we took you out to the bar in Cleveland. Some of us are large batches of mirth and gaiety, as I am willing to prove.

• Did you get an invite from an american? Americans don't want you.

• I don't want to be American. It would be like being someone great, and then become a saddistic piece of delusional scum. There is nothing special about Americans. You are sick assholes, it would be great if you just all killed yourselves so world can finally breath!

• My2Cents Exactly. Americans treat foreigners with so much disrespect and c0ndensension that opening your mouth about their harrassment of you is a total waste of time. Some of them are absolutely open about how they feel about immigrants by implying that Americans are the best. Well, may be. But you have to remember that there are no people out there, who want to made feel that they are worse than someone else.

• you know you would get a lot more credit with what you are saying if you were actually American

• In the United States, there is no need to commit suicide. They can easily kill you themselves, and you don't even need to be Osama Bin Laden. They kill great people as well, like Martin Luther King, John Lennon, JFK and the like. What the hell did  they do? They weren't terrorists, right? All you have to do is say something like "I wish there was no religion and countries", and your brains will be smeared all over the place. Poor Kurt Cobain. All he had to do was write a song about world peace, and his efforts would've been spared. I'm sure some American, who can't tolerate true greatness would've blown him off the stage. I wouldn't be surprised, if it turned out that Americans tricked John Lennon to the US pretending that they liked him, and the guy fell for their lies. Just think about it - if Americans open their borders, there  will be no Mexico anymore.

• Does anyone know what you're supposed to do when Americans are trying to kill you in America because you're too great for them to handle you? Help, help, help ... I am dying,..........

• Americans are little girl stalkers and killers. I hope they don't kill me after they read this message.

• That's horrible, I mean kids can be real assholes and when some kids bully some other, those bullyings are often called "jokes". The one who should be blamed is not only those bullies, but also adults who have seen and have not been aware. No one is perfect, even an english-speaker can make mistakes. That's not a reason to treat someone as if they are "retarded" and force them to take treatment. This superiority complex is the one which makes this world harder to stand. If the consequences which lead sb to leave their country are looked at carefully, it can be seen this superiority complex is quite harmful. Poverty is because of imposing free sell system to everywhere, to be same to everywhere. We need to be tough to overcome this serious problem. And escaping is not solution, because the ones who have stayed back would have to face your problems too, the solution is unite and be honest and tough, and spreading hope.

• T he piece of shit bullies walked up to the casket and laughed. FUCKING LAUGHED! What the hell kind of... I don't even want to acknowledge these vicious cunts as "human beings" what the fuck does that, and fucking rejoices? Stupid bitches. If someone did that to my daughter, I'd be behind bars.

• This reminds me of why I hate everyone. 93% of people today are worthless.

• When a bullied person starts accusing a bully, the bully usually gets really defensive, and starts acting like a total asshole. They actually get much worse. Another thing is that bullies always kiss ass of the authorities, which the authorities love. In my high school, they would give bribes and gifts to the principal and teachers, which gave them the priviledge to do what they wanted to anybody. It is a common practice. The same happens on the job among adults. Sometimes the authorities are extremely unprofessional, and become friends with students, or supervisors become friends with their employees. If you are not one of them, and if bully harrasses you, the authorities will not take your side simply because they are friends with the bully, who on top of everything might say the most atrocious lies about you to the authorities behind your back. They will simply feel bad about "betraying" the bully because the bully pretty much bought them or own them with their attitude and behavior towards the authorities. That's a huge mistake on part of the authorities. They always have the choice to stay professional and impartial, and resist being bought. This is a very common pattern that can be recognized everywhere.

• depends on how large the school is too. . it is to a point impossible to know everyone in your class once the numbers of the class size gets beyond a certain point. . some kids learned early from being bullied to look like they are ignoring everyone except the bullies in the school. . or seeing the ones being bullied and decide the best course is to only pay attention to the bully/bullies. they tend to learn it as part of self survivial. . if they did notice it and did nothing. then yes, they are in some ways just as guilty. since they could have gotten the bully or bullies dealt with. . that does include teachers as well.

• I know that in some countries they have a law that prohibits people from insulting others. It's called "personality insult". However, it's really difficult to live with this kind of law. One time, I almost ended up sued for calling my former friend "bitch" at school because she revealed my personal information to some people. I know in the US, sometimes, people can sue for slander. Unfortunately, there was no privacy law in that country, and everybody in the class sided with that girl and viewed her as a "victim". However, she caused me a lot of damage and remained unpunished, and everybody hated me for simply calling her "bitch", while supporting her wholeheartedly. Not only that, she brought a bunch of guys to my house, and when I opened the door, they all dropped inside and started harrassing me in my own home. My family didn't call the police, but simply took it and decided to forget it. And I was the "bad" one! Fuck you suckers!

• For a moment, I was going to suggest that the bullied person should just kill the bully without leaving any trace or evidence, but then it occurred to me that what if somebody thinks I am a bully myself. There are people out there, which could be, probably, classified as a distinct type of bullies, who purposely accuse you of causing them harm, and harassment, when you think you are absolutely innocent and don't do anything wrong. Sometimes, they make you look like YOU are an asshole. That's where the problem lies. If you expell an alleged bully from school because somebody is accusing them of being one, then you will be expelling the wrong person. I am not suggesting that this girl was one of these "victims". These type of bullies can literally ruin your life. You might be saying things without any malicious intent to hurt, but they perceive everything you're saying as evil and harmful. The question is - how do you know what kind of utterance can make somebody feel bad? In this case they should curtail the freedom of speech and forbid everyone from insulting others. This can be really tough because, technically, everything you say might be taken as an insult, depending on the person. For, instance, stalkers are notorious for making their prey look like the prey are stalking the stalker. Same happens with other types of crimes. When people make you look like an asshole, when you are perfectly good, is no different than being bullied or harrassed. As a matter of fact, it's even worse.

• If I was a school administator, and one of my students complained about being harrassed or bullied, Iwould simply expelled the bully from the school after thorough investigation. If a bully threatened me with retaliation, or if I felt that they might retaliate against me, I would incourage the state to create a school administrator protection committee. It's kind of like witness protection. Students need to be focusing on getting education and not on getting distracted by fighting off bullying and harrassment. I can't believe American high school administration are such pussies!

• I learned from my experience that when you complain about being harrassed or harmed in the US by anyone, they usually suggest that you deserve it because you're a rotten piece of scum anyway. You can be the greatest person in the world, but if people want to see you as "BAD", they will be constantly making you feel that way.

• "...ethnic Croatians who'd come to Cleveland to escape the shithole that is Bosnia." What I like about America is trees, sky, sun, grass, mountains and rivers. Everything and everyone else just gets in the way and spoils the view.

• "In the eyes of fellow students, she merely offended them by speaking with the accent of ethnic Croatians who'd come to Cleveland to escape the shithole that is Bosnia. " It's very easy to offend Americans, and it doesn't have to be an accent. If you are a foreigner and they sense it, they'll get offended even if you come up with a great idea or are actually smarter than them. Sometimes, they can even shoot you or kill you for saying something they don't like or agree with. America is a great country indeed, however, it would be much better, if there were no Americans in it.

• It's really amazing that Americans themselves ruin America. Most of them don't even have a slightest comprehension of what "freedom" is. Americans are typically extremely controlling of the people around them. They control your looks, intelligence, sexual orientation, thoughts, ideas, language skills, financial well-being, sexual orientation education and everything else they can control... They always make sure that they don't let you live. I just recently left the mainland US, and am actually feeling a lot freer.

• People can call you "whore", even when you are a virgin. I am not sure about other countries, but in the US it happens quite a lot. They can call you whatever they want to call you. Damaging people is an American form of entertainment, if not the most favorite one. So sad. It's supposed to be an escape for the persecuted ones, but even among the "persecuted", persecution does arise. Modern Americans represent everything America is not supposed to be. The ideology is great, but the people just don't allow it to become a reality. The majority of Americans act like dumb siddistic pigs. It's really hard to like and respect people like that.

• It makes me wonder what kind of asshole do you have to be to be albe to survive in a world like this. And what for? Why would anyone, who had to tolerate such treatment would want to contribute to humanity in any kind of way, and be part of it and constantly kiss everybody asses to make sure they don't screw you over even more than they already have.

• The problem is when people don't like you, and it's possible that you somehow pissed off everybody around you with something, they will all be bullying you. What they usually do is ask you what's really important to you, and once you're stupid enough to tell them, they'll be using this to get under you or cause you as much pain as they can. If you say, life is the most important thing for you, they'll try and make sure that you lose it. And it doesn't just happen in high school. It happens among adults as well. Sometimes, they can make you feel bad by reminding you of losing a person, who was close to you. If you tell them your looks are important to you, they'll start making you feel bad about your looks, and so on. I was bullied by religious people as well, when they were trying to convert me. When they asked me what was important to me, I said life, instead of God. That just pissed them off and I could see hatred in their eyes. After that, I almost became homeless and nobody wanted to hire me. It made me feel like as if they were literally trying to make me die. Thus, I developed fear of people because I lost the ability to read people and see, who they really are. I actually realized that no matter who I meet, they eventually turn out pretty bad.

• Americans can maim you psychologically, but it doesn't stop there. They start calling you "crazy " afterwards. Not just ugly, dumb, stupid, but crazy as well. So if you try to compain that you were maimed psychologically, no one will believe you because those, who caused you harm will be telling everybody " Oh, don't listen to her, she's crazy". And that's the type of abuse you have to endure for nothing and for no reason. Unfortunately, foreigners that could potentially side with the bullied person, usually side with Americans because they love America that's fucking them in the ass. Americans want you to like them no matter what they do to you. That's the type of biological matter that they are. Pretty atrocious, but there is no way of avoiding them unless you move to another universe, where there is no exposure to this disgusting stuff. I hope I am within the freedom of the speech limits here.

• Americans can go after you simply because they think you are not good-looking. It happened to me once. I was in great shape when I came to the US, and looked pretty good for a while. Then I got sick and lost interest in maintaining my looks, which unfortunately changed to what Americans view as unattractive. That's when the bullying started. The problem is when people see you in your worst, they use it for as long as they know you, so no matter how great you look after your recovery, they still see you the way you were when you were ill. However, maintaining good looks for people like that just so they leave you alone is absolutely insulting and humiliating.

• It's really horrific, when you become a victim of bullying in the US. You can be bullied in ways that you can't even imagine. Psychopathy in the US is, unfortunately, out of hand, and there is no one to ask help from. They can pick you for whatever reason, and never let go. Usually Americans do not intervene, when somebody is being bullied because nobody wants such problems. Everybody is for themselves. Rather, they may all collectively participate in it, especially if the bully says something negative about the bullied person. They might simply spread rumors about you by calling you a "terrorist", and you'll be totally clueless as to what's going on, simply because they want you to be "terrorist". The reason why they can target you, can be absolutely anything, particularly if they don't like you or want you out of their country. It's really amazing that people, who are lucky enough not to become the targets of US bullies, actually continue to remain in the states. It's like living on a bomb shell, never knowing, who you might piss off with being who you are or attract for bullying or stalking. And what's so great about living in the states under such conditions? And the question is - what do you do? Who do you turn to for help? The problem is Americans have no problem reaching outside their country, so technically you can't even feel safe in your "home" country either. Americans always suspect people of what they are not and you can't do anything to prove them otherwise. And why would you. If they are constantly paranoid because they think their so great and everybody is out to destroy them, then this is what I think about American greatness - Why can't they just put them all on psychiatric medications?

• I attempted suicide as well because partly I didn't want to be damaged and harmed by people any more, especially when it's impossible to stop. However, when you survive a suicide attempt, people take it almost personal, as if "why the hell did you survive?", and start brutalizing you to such an extent until you feel like killing yourself again. If you actually die, then they get satisfied, and may even show some pity by erecting you a monument. Trust me, there are so many people out there that would love me to kill myself again. People are innate killers. After a survived suicide attempt, they start looking for reasons to justify the harm they incurred and that led you to suicide attempt almost implying that you deserve it. Human cruelty is atrocious and disgusting. But you have to remember that they love it, and will be doing it, especially if you try and question it. Many people realize that humans are pestilence on this planet, and nothing good should be expected from them. Just learn how to protect yourself from that shit as much as you can.

• It's really important not to show people what can get under you. Once they figure it out, they'll be doing it to you non-stop until you kill yourself, because subconsiously and even consciously they want you to die. People constantly destroy life, and it's in their blood to kill everything and everyone on their way. That's what people are like. It's terrible, but you are the one, who chooses to be born. If not, then your parents will go to hell for giving birth to you into this kind of world, and let you kill yourself because it's impossible to change people into non or at least less cruel.

• Sometimes bullying can also happen among the members of the same group, or family members. Thus, encouraging foreigners to "go hang out" with the people within their own ethnic communities to avoid bullying on the part of Americans, as some of the bloggers suggested, may not necessarily be particularly helpful. You can be put down, picked on and beaten up by your sibling or parent, for instance, just as brutally or even worse than Sladjana was by those crazed-on-her teenagers. And how would you explain that? You would think that since you and your closest relative have almost identical genetic makeup, this problem shouldn't exist. You have the same origin, accent and skin. But no... It seems that people tend to look for differences everywhere, even when there is only two identical twins present in the room. Why would they be intolerant of each other? Is it because people are obsessed with wanting to be better than you in any way possible, especially when such people gain some kind of advantage from that, or is it pure sickness? Would you sue your sibling or parent in a case like this? And what for - intolerance, or an attempt to make you "better"? When somebody tells you to have your moles removed, it sounds more like wanting to "point out" that you're not as good-looking as themselves, due to this so-called physical defect, which pretty much means scoring points for having blemish-free skin, in order to establish some kind of dominance over you. Or do they get the kick out of making others feel bad all the time? Being ethnically or culturally different from bullies, adds fuel to the fire, as anything else they can find to pick on, unless the bully's primary reason for singling someone out or the criteria for being "better" IS ethnicity or being born in the states. It would be interesting to see someone try and change this aspect of human nature. I mean eliminating the competition aspect between people. I wonder if that can stop people from obsessing with one another's looks, intelligence and everything else. When there is no advantage in being better than others, why would anyone even bother to care about who has what, and who everybody is.

• i know how it feels to be bullied i hated my high school after tenth grade thanks to those principals that bus driver and those two brats who harrased me. that horrible woman just smirked when i was torrmented they threw garbage, food, a pringles can (missed) pulled my backpack in the alie, kicked it and made fun of me because im jewish i never forgave jody ramsey who stood by and ignored me when i needed her the most. this nightmare lasted six months at the winter of march of 2008 i had enough and i slapped that brat on the face for the nightmare on friday i got punished two detention i felt that those two hellish brats got special treatment. i never knew imagined something this unspeakeable could have happened to me. what that jody ramsey did was worse she should have been fired. I will never forgive her the pricipals and seth hapner and his braty sidekick austin burn in hell >=(

• dguy, the school was not all-white students! And yeah, how in the hell do you know that the GOONS were all white? Is it Whitey's fault what happened to this poor girl? The color of a person's skin has nothing to do with being a Son of a Bitch and tormenting a defenseless girl to death.

• If this bullied girl was from africa or african american the FBI would have been called out to stop the assaults. if a teacher was pushed down the stairs the person who pushed the teacher would be facing assault charges. this is happening because the kids are BOTH white and different from the goons who do the teasing whose parents made sure they go to all-white schools.

• This is all bullshit. the kids at that high school should all go to hell idc if you were involved or not. cuz even if you werent you had to know it was going on and said nothing. and they left out a huge part of this story. at her funerals one of the bitchy girls LAUGHED AT HER. they made fun of what she was wearing! this girl is dead because of you and you have the nerve to laugh??? i kinda hope karma kills that bitch

• I feel so badly for this girl and for all people who are picked on and bullied. I wish I had known her. I celebrate the differences in people. In my workplace I am exposed to many unique, ethnic and truly individual people. I feel blessed to know them. To me, life would be far too boring if we all were the same. You don't have to like everyone you meet, but you can be tolerent.

• Go ahead and pick an argument "if that is the case-they only show kindness or sympathy to those like them,or those they approve of then they are not really kind,or caring. They are bullies. They will attack the other,the different ones.I only meant tough as the ability to overcome adversity,and I don't that has anything to do with the people you describe". Well, that's exactly why we have bullies, because if you're not a bully and accept bullies for who they are, and never attack them because they are not like you, they will always be there attacking you, especially if you try to show them your kindness or sympathy.

• @BooBooKitty "Wow Resurrected Flower just picked the stupidest fight ever. Diamond was obvioly just trying to convey a point and used tough to mean resiliant and you just took everything all wrong. Or maybe you purposely chose to see it that way and were just looking for an argument." If Diamond thinks we should all agree to disagree, then, perhaps, I shouldn't be called "stupid", or in other words, bullied, for choosing to see something through a different perspective and not argued with. All right?

• Wow Resurrected Flower just picked the stupidest fight ever. Diamond was obvioly just trying to convey a point and used tough to mean resiliant and you just took everything all wrong. Or maybe you purposely chose to see it that way and were just looking for an argument.

• @diamondgirl9 "It was not intended to be condescending or insulting. I don't even know why you think that. Perhaps you feel insulted because I disagreed with you. So we will just agree to disagree,and end this conversation." Perhaps, from now on, we should just all act tough and dumn, and tell people to cut it off, when we don't like or understand what they are saying. That's pretty damn controlling. It seems you can't even tell the difference between black and white or right and wrong. May you should try to understand what you wrote and read first, before you accuse others of not understanding you, and assume what you assume. By the way, bullies and the bullied are both equally good at survival. They are equally tough in their own ways. If a "flower" can take abuse for several years, that's damn tough. Her only fault was that she either couldn't or chose not to run away from her situation. I guess, it all depends on the circumstances "flowers" find themselves in.

• @diamondgirl9 Nice try at bullying!

• It was not intended to be condescending or insulting. I don't even know why you think that. Perhaps you feel insulted because I disagreed with you. So we will just agree to disagree,and end this conversation.

• How is a flower or kind and loving person supposed to survive in a cruel world set up by beasts and designed to destroy flowers? Just read your condescending and insulting response to my comment.

• Ressurrected Flower if that is the case-they only show kindness or sympathy to those like them,or those they approve of then they are not really kind,or caring. They are bullies. They will attack the other,the different ones.I only meant tough as the ability to overcome adversity,and I don't that has anything to do with the people you describe.

• @diamondgirl9 "You seem to equate tough with unkind or unsympathic..." I understand exactly what you mean by tough or the "weed", and I, in no way, suggested that tough people are generally unkind or unsympathetic. All I said was that they may not necessarily show sympathy to a bullied person they don't like or can't tolerate. For instance, I know some tough people, who side with the bullied victims, only if those victims belong to certain groups, let's say ethnic or cultural. However, if these tough people don't like Jews, for example, they'll call Jews greedy and believe that Jews deserved what happened to them. That's what I meant.

• @Resurrected Flower I agree if there were no cruelty or bullying there would be reason to be tough. I don't think you understand what I mean by tough. The reason I used the metaphor of the flower and the weed is because a weed,will try to survive no matter how adverse the conditions. A flower,most of them any way need the right soil,water,and growing conditions to survive. I love flowers,but they have a much harder time living in adverse conditions. I am in no way blaming the victim of bullies. You seem to equate tough with unkind or unsympathic and I do not think that is true. Perhaps I should have resiliant instead. Unfortunately we live in a world of cruel people,and if you are a kind and loving person I want you to survive-because if all the kind people die there will be no one left but the beasts.

• To diamondgirl Cruelty does force some people to become tough and disensitized. And that's why toughness is ugly, because it's one of the outcomes or products of cruelty. If there was no cruelty or bullying, you wouldn't need to be tough, and could remain gentle and kind, and still survive. Also, there is no guarantee that a tough person is going to be sensitive and sympathetic to those, who can't fight anymore and need help, particularly if the tough person doesn't like the helpless person for some reason, such as cruelty.

• @Resurrected Flower I disagree. Being tough is what you have to be to survive-it is not what makes the world ugly. What makes the world ugly is cruelty to others and indifference to the rights and feelings of others. It is the me,me,me and the hell with anyone else. Being able to survive all that is not the reason it exists.

• To Iveta "It makes me so sad when I hear of bullying like this. It makes me wish I was there. I hate Bullies!!! If I witness any bullying, I will jump in and punk the bully. I would have loved to be there and beat the shit out of those bullies for her." You are saying this because you don't know the girl personally. Imagine, if you didn't like her for some reason yourself, and those bullies started bullying her, let's say for the same reason you didn't like her, would you still stand up for her, or would you just watch her being brutalized, just like the rest of the class did. One time, I lived in a black neighborhood, and while I was on a bus going "home", a black lady attacked me because I accidentally touched her with my hip, when I sat on the seat right next to her. I said "Sorry", but when she heard that, she got extremely mad at me and screamed: "Sorry? You're supposed to say Excuse me". And then she went on attacking me, while I was helplessly trying to defend myself. Then she started insulting my skin color and spat at me, then jumped from her seat and tried to attack me physically. The whole bus was watching and listening, including the bus driver. Not a single one of them said a word to stop this. Then I realized that all the people, who were standing or sitting right next to us, were either Africal Americans or Asian. I thought to myself "No wonder. They wouldn't miss the opportunity to brutalize a vulnerable "white" person, as I was at the time, without anyone to stand up for me". Of course, to them I was a bad person, who deserved such treatment because, even if you do something accidentally to someone, who hates you, they'll always use the opportunity to make you look really bad and cause you some kinda damage. It was really ugly.

• To diamondgirl "You have to be tough." It's too bad that toughness is exactly what makes this world so ugly.

• I understand why too. She was a flower. You have to be a weed to survive in this cruel and indifferent world. The kind of weed that grows up through the cracks in the sidewalk,that florish without water or care. You have to be able to survive being run over by someone's car it you grew up in a driveway,or come back after someone has doused you with weed killer. You have to be tough.

• I completely understand why this girl committed suicide. Who, in their right mind, would want to live in an ugly world like this?!

• Bullies are absolutely disgusting! I usually stay away from them, as I would stay away from a pile of shit. As simple as that!

• If your English is imperfect because you're a non-native speaker, American bullies will treat you as inferior, though, in reality, you're more superior than them because you can retain two or more languages in your brain at the same time, while they can barely retain only one. Instead of giving a credit to someone, who has the capacity to learn a language, and made the effort to do so, American bullies constantly pick on you, looking for every single flaw they can find in your English, which you will definitely have in plenty because it's your second language, make fun of it, put you down and then correct every minor mistake you accidentally make. It's quite a lot of pressure to put someone under. Come on, people - this is just a little too much, don't you think? Who wants to tolerate all this for a chunk of bread?

• The problem with being a foreigner in the US is that Americans might perceive your accent, tone of voice, the choice of vocabulary you use, the way you you put words in a sentence, mentality and even the speed with which you speak English, as mental retardation or dumnness. Sometimes, it even happens after a foreigner achieves mastery of English and American culture, and tries to explain things using new or different ideas that Americans are not used to or never heard of. Sometimes, they even put you on psychiatric medications trying to treat your so-called retardation, and what seems to be a "distorted" thought process, which make you pretty much mute, and you can barely say a word afterwards. These medications also cause short and long-term memory loss, sluggishness and docility, which might make you seem even more retarded, and then you pretty much lose your mind. They can also trigger suicidal thoughts, and may even potentially lead to suicide. They call it "help". Then they put you in the system as mentally ill, and if you start experiencing some neurological or physical problems, they simply tell you "Oh, it's all psychological, just take this psychiatric pill, and you'll be alright". Then they slap you with a milti-thousand dollar bill, which you can't pay because you're poor and disabled. Being called mentally retarded, or in other words "dumn", when you are, in fact, a highly intelligent person, who graduated university with honors, learned one or more foreign languages, and have the capacity to survive and adapt in a totally different culture is quite upsetting, debilitating and abusive beyond words. Unfortunately, it's totally useless to try and explain this to some Americans because they will never understand or simply not want to see you as anything else but what they unfairly label you, unless you lower yourself to their level and start reasoning they way they do. And it's only because they think they are the best! The problem is - what is in it for me when I'm being brutalized like this?

• If a bullied person by any chance attacks the bully first, the bully might retaliate so fiercely that the bullied person will be terribly injured. The majority of animals will, of course, side with the bully and ridicule and hate the bullied person for attacking the bully. Usually humans/animals/mascots have a lot of respect for strong bullies, and feel protective of them and use the bullied person as a scape goat to take out their frustrations on and to please the bully. That's why when the bullied person dares to touch the bully first after being abused by them, the abused person will become the bully, except that this person will never be respected by anybody, but bullied even more. Thus the bullied person will always be the prey, who everybody hates for being vulnerable. Gee, I hope you all die bastards!

• I wonder if the teachers at her high school were picking on her as well. Sometimes, teachers are the ones that encourage bullying by singling out a student. It happened to me at several schools. When one of my teachers picked me as a scape goat because she didn't like me right from the moment she saw me for being different, perhaps, (this is what many teachers do), the bullies immediately joined in, and the rest of the class just followed along. Thus I was completely alone. She was picking on anything she could pointing out things about me to bullies at every opportunity, thus gaining their respect and popularity. The whole class started tearing me apart for a couple of years, until my academic performance completely plummeted. And when that happened, bullying became 10 times worse, because now, according to the whole class, I was not just physically or ethnically "defective", but also intellectually. At the time, I couldn't do anything about it. I really believed that I was defective in every single way because they thought so. And since I thought my perception of myself should be formed by other people's opinion about me, I truly believed that I was what they labeled me. That's probably what happened to this girl from Croatia as well. Humans are such atrocious scum and quite predictable!

• To James "You're right! No bullies, no bullying!"... Bye-bye everybody! I hope hell is a perfect spot for you.

• To IBur "Don't be afraid to run away from animals. You simply don't need to be around them. You're much better than that!" You're right! No bullies, no bullying!

• I was picked on by a really ugly guy one time. He was so brutal to me trying to constantly point out the defects in me that I could not possibly change, the ones that are purely genetic. I, however, never wanted to hurt him back because I knew he was really ugly in many ways, and that he was probably picked on and torn apart brutally because of his looks quite a lot. Though I was much better looking than him. I just took the abuse all the time being constantly upset and depressed that I'm not like one of those "perfect"-looking girls, who don't have my physical drawbacks. However, right after he decided not to hang out with me anymore while going on and on at me about my looks in a very aggressive manner, I finally found strength in me and said: You are so fucking ugly yourself! And guess what - all of a sudden, his face changed and I saw a smile signalling that he liked what I just did. His voice, attitude and talking manner completely changed towards respectful. I felt horrible inside for doing this to him. I felt so much pity for him. I felt like I damaged him for life. Though he probably didn't feel any pain anyway. He was a guy from Long Island, New York. We don't contact each other any more, though. Luckily looks are absolutely not important to me ever since, and anybody, who tries to pick on my body thinking that this might effect me in any way is a total fool and is wasting time! It's really sad that, even though, technological progress in the US is moving farward so rapidly, human mental and emotional evolution is going incredibly fast in the opposite direction, thus animalizing people to the point of rediculousness. Bullying is a highly predatory trait intended to destroy. So if you're still alive, after surving in the US for several years, consider that a miracle. P.S. By the way, I hope I'm not too hard on bullies. Their feelings might get hurt.

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