Tantrum Throwing 10-Year-Old Trashes Cop Car Because He Can't Get BB Gun

• Damn kid. You going to be a drug lord when you grow up. I give you props.

• I still stand by my statements. I'd like to add a few. First, the officer sounds like a pretty compassionate person. It's a thankless job, but thanks :-) Some folks here think a good grounding, tazing, or locking him up might take care of things. For a child with screwed up wiring, those MAY work short term, but probably won't work in the long run. Listen to parents who will tell you. As for the thinking of toddlers learning about consequences: Those are typical toddlers. This boy is obviously not typical. Consequences mean nothing, especially when they are enforced at a later date like the juv. justice system. By the time they are before a judge, many truly don't have a clue why they are there. If they WERE sent to a mental facility, who will pay for that? Ask a parent who has tried to get their child into various treatments, and listen carefully to what they have to say. Listen carefully to the parents of non-typical kids, as they tell you about their lives. Just listen. Keep listening. Then....offer to spend a week with their child.

• Wow, that's a really sad story Reid, but thanks for posting it.

• @Alecto--Bless you! I know you have a crap job. My dad was a cop for 20 yrs, and he was much like you--stopping and talking to the neighbors, buying kids candy, helping little old ladies with their groceries... He tried to give some kids a break as he was a bit of a punk in his earlier days. I have a friend with a child similar to this one. The first week of kindergarten he threw a chair at the principal's desk...he pissed in a light socket at home and set the inside of the wall on fire. He said he was going to kill his sister in her sleep. His parents slept with their bedroom door locked. This was all before he was 10. He was diagnosed with ODD (oppositional defiance disorder), ADD and ADHD. He has two working normal parents. This child was a nightmare in school. He was kicked out of most of the grade schools in town and EVERY daycare. His own grandparents wouldn't babysit him. They put him on medication that turned him into a zombie. It was really sad. They finally had to send him to some sort of juvenile mental facility out of state because he got kicked out of the in-state one. He'll not come home until he's an adult, and even then I don't think he could function normally. Sometime the wiring in these kids heads isn't right, but it's not their fault. They need help and this one could certainly benefit from medication, therapy and a supervised mental facility where he's not a danger to others. The grandma needs to make that step to do this for him rather than keep getting woken up at 1 a.m. when he's snuck out and done something illegan again.

• Sorry MADDEN, disagree on one point...charginga kid at 10 IS insane. He doesn't seem to have a clue as to what is right or wrong, can't be done, so, having said that...ALECTO, out of the kindness of his heart and concern for the little shit's future...shoulda just TASED the little B&*#@RD. That would give him something to contemplate, as my good ol' Gran used to say, Bless her, damn, you never messed with that woman,all five foot tall and 80 lbs soaking wet. Enough already ! The Munchkins need to start learning some respect, or else it's gonna have to be the hard way. You sow...You reap. After that I need a drink I think. Cheers.

• And at what age should children be held responsible for their actions? Not being charged just because the kid is 10 is insane. Good lord, TODDLERS are usually taught consequences for their tantrums, etc. Honestly, if I had done something like that as a kid, I'd most likely still have trouble sitting down today. My parents didn't hesitate to break a foot off in my ass when it was needed. And kids not being held responsible for their actions is the reason why our country is going down the toilet crime wise.

• First things first: @Alecto: Thank you so much for all you do. It may not seem so, but know that more people appreciate what you & your fellow officers & detectives do. Like a teacher, you have a truly thankless job & you get crapped on & told off more than you are given a handshake in gratitude. To you, I extend my handshake & complete admiration to you & all the boys & girls in blue. Second: this little night wandering Mephistopheles need to be given swift & constant discipline. Angry Grandma has a point, lockup his punk ass.@ Grandma, what makes you think he has not already done something so evil. @Mark, I'd normally agree with the responding officer not tazing this little shit, but, he may actually be one of those minors who truly deserved to be tazed. There are lots of things I wanted to do as a child, but I had respect & fear for authoritarian figures, these included the police. I also had a well learned respect & FEAR for my Grandmother. Woman was about 70 & on a cane but you did not cross her. She was one of those female ball players in the 40's & a shop steward in a plant long before equal rights effed everything up. When you acted up, you got the cane. When she whistled, you came running & we could hear her whistle while we were inside a neighbors house, in the basement & 6 houses down the street. And no, I am not old, my AARP benefits will not kick in for over 10 years. This monster needs to learn a healthy respect for others, something many do not teach their spawns these days. They are not fearful of punishment, not a beating, but a simple REAL grounding. This little jerk has not learned proper respect for his Grandma, police or even himself. He has no expectation of a punishment so he lacks the button many of us had at that age. The one that went off when we went to far, which would be LONG BEFORE we chucked our 2 wheeler through a cops windshield. He is incapable of hearing & dealing with the word no. Can you imagine how he wold react at say 14 or 15 when he asks a girl to the school dance or for a date? She will say no & he will attack, rape, maim or kill her. It is common deduction he will do this. Unless he is gay, then he will attack, maim or kill a guy he asks out.

• thanks guys for your support. i have a thankless job. but i enjoy every minute of it. i try to help. our department is trying to go more community police. i don't understand how these other departments like denver can opperate like that. in our department every complaint is investigated fully. believe me. i got my ass in a bind over a crash report i wrote a few weeks ago. i was the one considered guilty and had to prove myself innocent. i was made to look like an incompetant dumbass. then when we got all parties together and the truth came out that they were full of shit i didn't even get an apology. i maintained my story throughout the entire ordeal but wasn't asked my side. when i continued with my side of it i was told that i was wrong. oh well. anyway i'm the type that goes and buys a bag of candy every now and again and hands it out to the kids in the neighborhood. hopefully if i ever get my ass in a bind someone will remember.

• Alecto, shitty job man, but you tried. Sounds like the Kid is in need of some sort of intervention...surely it can't be too late, for crying out loud, he's ten years old. Compassion & understanding MIGHT just save this kid. Cheers.

• I think there's a bit too much judgment being passed on this child. Tantrums usually happen because a child doesn't get what he wants. They are usually short lived. What's described here appears to be more than a tantrum. This appears to be much more impulsive than a tantrum. If this child does have a permanent brain disorder, most attempts at traditional consequences won't mean a thing. Nothing excuses the behavior of this boy, but it might explain things a bit.

• @Alecto: You have my sincere thanks.

• "Locking him up," "discipline," "tough love".... all that would work great if this child has a typical brain. My guess is that the "caretaker" is a foster parent, and the boy suffers from brain damage caused by fetal alcohol syndrome. Or maybe his brain never developed properly because of neglect and he has reactive attachment disorder. So sad.

• @ Mark- DON'T TASE ME BRO!

• I wonder what race the kid was. I know what my money would be on

• Just what a kid like him needs, a BB gun. In a few years he will steel a REAL gun, throw another tantrum, kill someone and some bleeding heart Judge will give him another "chance". Throw his ass in jail now and loose the key. (.) his butt now. (o) his butt in jail

• They should have pressed charges, he's 110 and they're familiar with him...send his ass to jail and let him get a taste of his future. As for the 'caretaker' I say beat the kid's ass once in a while and if that doesn't work then send him to jail overnight, that will either scare him straight or it will show everyone that he's a souless little demon seed. Fix the problem now before our tax dollars are paying for him for the rest of his life.

• hey dgirl9!! -yes it is a Happy Friday-other than last minute meetings that is lol

• Hey cw-Happy Friday! I posted this on another thread but I missed you.

• alexa!!! gave up? nah...just watching the shit fly :D *ffft...ffft* *cough* lol

• hey cw, *swig* how you doin' over here? You gave up on the Enright thread I see. I know, killing zombies is nasty, sweaty work. ;) Sláinte! *swig* God is great, beer is good, people are crazy! And wine too.

• oh and by the way when ur a police officer and u recognize an escaped prisoner when u catch them it's called DOING YOUR JOB!!

• what the hades are u talking about? i didn't go outta my way to get him sentenced? i'm not a juvenile detective. i was on my way to a vehicle burglary (that he did by the way) when i recognized him. i've tried talking to him but u wanna know what i get for trying to be nice? he tells me to suck his ****. tell u what when he gets out why don't u adopt him and reform him. i'm sure his grandma would be more than happy to sign over rights to you cuase she's tired of being woken up at 1 in the morning cuase he's walking the streets throwing beer bottles at random people. i know he's a little boy that'll grow up to be a terrible adult. his cousin, who was like a brother to him, was killed by a drug dealer who he was selling for and owed money to. i tried to talk to him too. i know that none of this is his fault. but what am i supposed to do when all i am is a bandaid to a situation? when i'm running 10-15 calls in a 12 hour shift and writing reports all day. i don't have time nor the training to rehabilitate this kid. i've got my own kid to worry about and make sure he doesn't grow up to be like this.

• Some errors going on there. lol As i was saying, this kid is clearly lashing out. It's unfortunate that his dads a nobody and his moms a hooker. None of this is his fault. You know him and went out of your way to ensure he got a proper sentencing. This is ridiculous! He's a poor little boy who is going to be a terrible adult. Instead of throwing away the key we should just throw him away. He's 10, there's no hope. A sex offneder can be rehabilitated, a druggie can be rehabilitated but this kids got to go!

• @Alecto

• @Alecto

• I've been familiar with a kid since he was 7. everybody's familiar with him. i have dealt with this kid so many times in the past 4 years that i know his birthdate his real name, his street name, his grandmother's name, and his address. whenever something came up stolen or broken into in the neighborhood 9 times out of 10 he was responsible. at the ripe old age of 10 (the age of copability in this state) he was put in the local juvenile faclity. at his court hearing the entire neighborhood showed up to see him sentenced. he pulled out the water works and won the sympathy of the judge who at first gave him a light sentence. but as he was leaving the courtroom he cursed out the juvenile detective and kicked him in the shin. the judge then sentenced him to the juvenile facility. when he ran away from there about 6 months ago we again had a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood. when i saw him riding his bike down the sidewalk and recognized him he ran off. i chased him down and caught him. the mouth on that kid would make a sailor blush. u ask where his parents are. he doesn't know dad and mom's a prostitute.

• yes this youngster has big issues-sad really, maybe he's one of those that has bad wiring? just a thought...

• I see another Ted Bundy transforming!! Follow up on this kid in about 6 years, I bet he will have already committed murder and be standing trial, and hopefully it will be in an adult court..

• This kid is my hero. I would say I loved him, but that would probably get me my own story on this page with some perverted twist

• @Mark Well said. I agree some community service is perfect for this little guy. He will learn alot from it windshields are expsensive so he will have to put in a few hours to cover it. Great idea! @Sangelia Just because the police are familiar with him does not mean he is in foster care. His caretaker could very well be a guardian, perhaps his immediate family has passed. You are reading to much into it. I live in a rural community and we have the RCMP police our community. They are familiar with my kids yet they live with me. My children act out too, yet i am quite strict. There are other reason children act out. Same as adults. Generally there is an underlying problem. Abuse, anger, peer pressure, drugs, or just general displaced aggression. These police did the right thing and i hope that this boy finds and fixes his deep seeded hate before he turns out like the rest of you. Consistently argueing and dividing yourselves in your own country. He should fit right in if he doesn't.

• @ Alexa - Right on, as usual. Gee, I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars will be spent on this loser by society.

• when the cops are familiar with a kid and his caretaker like that. means the kid is in a foster home. this is what comes from indulging the kid. by in the past giving them everything they want. no matter what. and not saying no. this is also what happens when a kid gets NO disipline in the home. bet you folks in about 2 to 4 years. this kid will hit the bigger news in doing some crime. kid needs Tough Love.

• Well, I was going to make a snide comment about how it's great that this kid is growing up with such a remarkable Contempt for Authority (I know I always dreamed of throwing a bike through a Police windshield!). However, considering the Police not only didn't Taze the bro, but didn't press charges, I might actually have some respect for these Authority Figures compared to some of their equally as bad tempered brethren who wouldn't normally have any hesitation with Tazing a 10 year old with far lesser reasons. Obviously the West St. Paul Police genuinely care about this kid and are trying to help him grow up through some tough times. Good, old fashioned, Community Service. Which speaking of Service to one's Community...is 10 years old too young to start working Community Service to pay back the damages to the Police car? Seems like an appropriate punishment, and it would help grow some character in the process. Hopefully this kid will pull things together for himself sooner rather than later. It sounds like he's lashing out because of some serious issues from a bad life, so even though it's easy to judge the young kid as a brat, it sounds like he may really be deserving of a break or two considering. I'm going to trust the Officers in this story and assume that the best course of action was taken.

• The kib was just acting like GEORGE BUSH,JOB WELL DONE,cares less what he did.

• I think this kid needs a couple swats on the ass and some lessons on being a man. That or put the little bastard on the shot put team.

• Back in my day we just held our breath till we got what we wanted. It never worked, but it was good training for a future in which air is precious, roving gangs of hoodlums called "Respirators" rule the streets, and the living envy the dead. Prepare your bodies for Thunderdome. That is the new law.

• Wow! He doesn't need to be locked up. There are children who just plain and simple need discipline. This little boy needs to come to my house. I have two girls his age and they have chemical imbalances also.(I'm assuming he does, doesn't everyone??) This could be easly fixed with out the few years in jail with a bit of hard work and some corporal punishment. (Examples of what i mean are in a previous post from Officer Pat. I think it was about the brat from the Olive Garden)Everyone is so willing to lock up and give up on these kids. It's very frightening. I mean how can a 10 year old not get a second chance. I agree he has a complete lack of respect. How about we teach him some instead of introducing him to some juvenille deliquents who will forsure show him how to be respectful while he sits in jail and gets his head on straight.

• @Jaim I agree. This child is either going to end up dead or spending his life in and out of jail. His "caretaker" needs to get this child some serious help.

• *sips mimosa* Uh, then the caretaker facsimile was not charged with the cost of repair, either? When the cops are "familiar" with a child of that age, it means the parental unit is broken. Broken units must be repaired or replaced. For if not, the dependent child unit will grow with a noticeable crick in its moral core. Cricked moral cores = eternal pestilent career criminal = massive wasted tax payer dollars tossed in money pit of said cricked moral cores. I say the parental unit must be replaced, forthwith. Child unit must be placed in a military boarding school forth-forthwith. *sip*

• I say Tough Love him in the local county lockup! See what he will be enjoying in a few years. At 10, if this doesn't 'scare him straight' nothing will. What's next? Murdering cats or kittens or puppies? Beating a little girl or boy at the park? He needs help ASAP

• WOW the police are already familiar with this kid at the ripe old age of 10.....the future is bright for this one.

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