David Kelley, Mark Kinkaid Sue Woman They Saved From a Burning Vehicle

• Fuck you asshole.

• You are an ignorant mess Sangelia.

• yea, no matter how a woman lives her life. the troll thinks that all women are druggie tatt'ed whores who never spent a day in school.  . one wonders if that was the life of his mother. who most likely gave him up.

• OK Verve, you caught me.   Women are an evil brand of unknown Pandora type fatal consequence. I stole my husband's username.  He begged me not to steal Dr Phil Cavity, but how could I not?  I am truly evil.   Why don't you come over and set him straight.  He's lifting weights in he basement.

• It does if you're a shit head.

• Have you seen My2?  You and her R very late for your check-up's and are in a lot of trouble.  Hopefully we can come to some kind of civilized agreement.

• What can I do for you as penance for my short vacation? Only you can think of the long, lingering, warm, stining punishment that I so deserve.  Please visit it upon as soon as possible. Otherwise, I will be forced to find someone else.

• That would be funny, Amanda.

• you are sooo wrong . lets see, my husband, my blood family as in brother, sister in law, nephew, niece, aunts, uncles, cousins. then there is my husband's family as well. as well as the folks my husband and I have as family friends. all Republicans.

• he also has racial issues as well we have noticed in other threads.

• Well, I used to stop for folks but the shit I read everyday. People settin' ya up for robberyand every fuckin' thing else. i just pass them by and call the police or AAA!!

• you have your own right?.... because it sounds like you married my man  ::winks::

• then why do you continue to converse with her? 

• he just has no grasp period

• The following can indicate a delusion: The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of their psyche. Munro, Alistair (1999). Dilusional disorder: paranoia and related illnesses. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press.

• Must be tiring being wrong all the time.  :D

• I'm not illusions.

• Seriously Verve, I think your medications need to be addressed in thorough detail.

• I'm not a movie, babe, I'm real, touchable, warm, and smooooooooooooth.

• Nems, The Billy Bob?  That's where you get all those french fried pertatos!  Be careful when using yard tools.  Tip of the day!

• Whereas, you are obviously just marginal.

• Illusions, Everyone wants to be your Facebook friend.  There's a waiting line.  Verve will be very busy in the next few weeks as his ex-GF Timera goes to court.  Now I can see why he thinks these things. Prostate surgery in six mos.  These melon balls ain''t gonna be around forever.  Friend me, already.

• You wish.  You'd have to step up to get to slug level.  Never in your lifetime could you compete with my husband, who does in fact have a few tattoos.  He works hard, earns well, rides Harley, treats all people with kindness and respect, including women and blacks and gays, he's honest, trustworthy, smart, dependable, sensitive, supportive, athletic, spiritual, and many other things that you cannot comprehend.  He's a better man on his worst day that you'll ever be.

• No, Verve, sorry. Not lying They're here. I see these types everywhere.  Intact nuclear families and old people who walk slow and wear glasses who have been married for decades.   I see them at at amuesment parks, in grocery stores, in movie theatres and museums. Sometimes I see groups of them at Olive Garden acting like they are celebrating a birthday.  I think this is where they meet to discuss their plans to take over the planet.

• awww I'm sorry, its so hard to tell you are being sarcastic because you spout crap like that with every post.

• Who luvs ya , babe?

• EVERYONE! Stop replying to this guy! He obviously has a plethera of issues and I'd bet that one of them results from having been screwed over by a woman. He needs to get over it, he needs to get help, he has no idea what he's talking about and is clearly never going to get the point of what many of you are saying. Sadly this is most likely the only way the poor fella can get attention but that's not your responsibility.

• Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated. -WebMD

• verve...............as I found out from my husband. any site can be hacked.  . some hackers think it is funny to leave viruses on various sites.  . emails are not the only way to transmit a computer virus.  . dont believe me. go check either Symantec Corporation, McAfee, or any other company who sells anti-virus software. check their sites. contact them directly. you will find that many hackers do stick viruses and other nasties onto websites in order to hopefully(in their minds) to get a victim.

• Valiant effort, Sangelia.  But, unfortunately, in vain. "...reasoning will never make a man correct an ill opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired..."

• Now how u know bout my Gina? U so smart. U jus confruse my wee wittle girly brain.

• lets clear things up. . 1.   I have NO tattoos. 2.   I also have NO STDs. who is my man at the time, is the one I am faithful to. I do not whore about. in fact shortly after being raped, I asked to be tested. came out clean. 2a.  as for my sexual incounters. I've only been willfully intimate with two guys. one was my ex-husband and currently my current husband. the only time it was without my consent was when I was raped at work. 3.   as for my intelligence. I dont think you ever scored the scores I had. I was found to be college level at 7th grade. can you say the same thing? is that a no I hear from you. comes in many ways from being a aspie. 4.   I do NOT do drugs. never had never will. I find them a waste of time and money. as well as more of a PITA than anything. heck I can not even remember the last time I touched alcohol. 5.   to me, respect is earned. just because you have your balls between your legs does NOT earn MY respect automatically. in fact very few folks have my respect. and it is easy to lose it.  once you lose it. you can never gain it back. and to me. if a guy has lost my respect. he is NOT a man. but something worthless. I gave you that chance. you lost it. 5a.  even women have to earn respect from me. again, it is not a automatic thing that I just hand out. 6.  to me, a REAL man is honourable. and NEVER thinks it is a disposable quality. you, you dont have it.you were willing to consign a woman to death because of her gender. other, you were willing to consign to death due to their skin colour. one should never consign a person to death. be it because of gender, age, race, social status(this includes money or the lack of it), education. Real men are willing to risk their lives for others. you, you would not do it because of your views on various humans. in fact you in a posting of your's in this thread, told men NOT to rescue a person due to their gender. . . you have as much honour as a pile of ten year old dog shit.

• Do tell!

• Yeah I'm bored.

• I'll have ya know that I be upper class trailer trash. We took the wheels off jus last summer an I just put da goat out in da yard wif do's yard birds ta keep da grass down.

• thanks, had to clean off my coffee off the screen after reading that one. . lol

• he also forgets that I am a Republican.  which tends to be right wing stuff. not the left wing stuff.

• No thank you. I wouldn't wanna git no std on my cumputer from some dirty bird place you mighy try an trick me with.

• No you silly wabbit! We don't got no 7-11s out here. All we gots us at the driftwood trailer park is a Piggly Wiggly an a Stop-N-Shop.

• Just a few. There's Billy Bob, Eugene, Harold and Chester.

• Something like that. There ain't nothing like the smell of gun powder in the morning air.

• I recognize you!! :P

• HD I've missed you and I love you....this is you right?

• How'd you know? I'm popular too. I have over 30 friends!

• Since verve said so it must be true. I'm thinking that verve should write a book to educate us all since he knows everything.

• since when are SCHOOLS like universities are feminist hellholes. . if they were, no male would be allowed there. most universities are populated by male students. . you are soo clueless about schools.

• Aww, so I guess that means you don't wanna be my Facebook friend either :(

• that makes no sense then what you just said.

• I can assure you that a large percentage that you made up are more likely to be "failure to pay". Which should really be considered shoplifting.

• so does my husband. that is why he is with me.

• Alas you are wrong as usual. I never claimed to be some great wit with awesome burns flowing from my fingertips. I just call it like I see it. You are a hateful little pussy.

• you are just extremely pitiful. . I have never ever treated my daughter as souless and dead. she makes her own choices. as in when to eat, what to eat, what to wear. be it in the house or outside the house. . it is wrong to control a aspie child as though she or he was nothing but property. since they need the room to bloom into who they are to be. . and I have NEVER EVER considered her to be disposable property. she is NOT a roll of paper toweling. she is a human being with the rights of a human being. the right to learn(or in your case not to learn), she has the right to food, to have fun as she wants, to wear what she wants, to sleep where she wants to in the house here. she has the right to be on the computer when she does. . told you, you dont know what I have learned. as well as how I live my life. . and the claims you make about my family and me are sooo full of bullshit. it is very extremely pitiful.

• I'm a woman that will save some piece of feces male humanoid like you while your busy pissing in your pink lace panties crying for someone to save your sorry ass. What's so hard to understand?

• Hmmm, so maybe mommy and daddy didn't fill your head with delusions of grandeur.  Did mommy abuse you?  Verbally, I bet.  So, mommy was an evil bitch who made daddy leave?  Did you ever see him again?  Or was mommy the one who left because she didn't want to be burdened by this massively needy and whiney brat?  The irony that having a good mother might have actually made you a better person...I guess women can be good for something.

• very true. a real man would not say that the men should have allowed the person to die. . a real man would have rescued her no matter what. a real man is NOT racist. he accepts all skin colour as equals.  . if the troll is supposedly a Christian, it is a show christian. 

• gee, so I was not raped by a coworker when I was going thru my divorce? . I too was one that never reported it. to this day I wish I had. but I know that many assume that the myth of the horny divorcee is supposedly true. and thus I knew I would not be believed.  . as I pointed out. the sites were from CREDITED schools as in UNIVERSITIES. not feminist sites. and as I said. if that one that got the info from the FBI. had lied about it. it would have been a felony.  in fact the sentances  immediately following the links WERE from those sites.  . . as I have said before. you are just a pitiful troll who refuses to learn.

• @NY_Mommy:disqus .................it wouldnt be the first PSA I've done. . how do you think it should be done? wondering what Pete thinks of it too. the one you proposed..still remember the one for Ch 9. when the station asked a few folks to come by and do a "angry mob" one. as in the Star Trek one. the station only had to run it once and they had folks calling in rather disturbed by it..also, that comment I made at the troll. the one about every gal is some male's daughter. well that came from a old PSA about sexual harrassment.think it was done about 1980 at the time. the words in it were spoken by one male to another in the set up. when the second male was sexually harrassing the waitress that was serving them at the eatery they were at.  the whole PSA was a hour long that night.  it was covering from both genders on how many felt about the subject.

• Don't try, Verve.  It's just gets messy when I filet your "brain" with my blades of logic: My statement is about your perception.  You perceive everyone around you as an enemy of some sort if they disagree with you.  Your statements are stated facts with no actual dispute behind them (i.e. no one thinks the economy is great, no one thinks there aren't homeless people) that you then attempt to pretend I disagree with because I dispute your perception.  My argument: verve's perception is flawed. Your argument: verve's perception is "truth" so roocifer must disagree with all truths. You confuse the two arguments as rhetorical or logical equals because your perception is damaged as we have seen on many and varied occasions.  Here endeth the lesson.

• you should have. since you are sounding like a puppet that came from them. . and I have NEVER EVER considered my daughter as property for one second. if I had. I would have charted out a strict course of how she was to live and learn. this would have included strict times for eating, sleeping, book learning, computer time for her, etc...... . if I had considered her property, she would not been allowed any freedom at all. she has more freedom than my own dad allowed me even at 30 years of age.  . and I did NOT know till I was 5 months pregnant that I was pregnant. I thought I had gone thru menopause for the first few months. since she was conceived during New Years Day. as in after midnight of 2004. 

• I think Verve picks up black prostitutes when his mom gives him extra money.

• I never reported mine.

• Sorry Asshole but wrong again. I'm all woman and likely to be the first to show up on a 911 call.

• You spew nothing but diarrhea. What's the matter? You don't have any real life friends so you spend all your time on line trying to make everyone as miserable as yourself? Your a pathetic excuse for a human being. Not even a real man.

• She should have just committed to suicide...chick deserves to be sued...

• the sites I found have been done by credible schools and other sites. . http://www.rwu.edu/studentlife/studentservices/counselingcenter/sexualassault/rapemyths.htm            Myth: Women often lie about rape or falsely accuse someone of rape. Fact: Statistical studies indicate false reports make up 2% or less of the reported cases of sexual assault. This figure is approximately the same for other types of crimes. Only 1 out of 10 rapes are actually reported. Rapes by someone the victim knows are the least likely to be reported . in fact this next one the school went and talked to the FBI. if they had lied about it. that is a felony for lying about a govt law agency: . http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html      Myth: Women often make false reports of rape. Fact: According to FBI crime statistics, during the 1990s around 8 percent. The “unfounded” rate, or percentage of complaints determined through investigation to be false, is higher for forcible rape than for any other Index crime. Eight percent of forcible rape complaints in 1996 were “unfounded,” while the average for all Index crimes was 2 percent. . http://well.wvu.edu/articles/rape_myths_and_facts     Myth: Most people report rape or sexual assault to the police.  Fact: The truth is that rape and sexual assault are two of the most underreported crimes in our society. Estimates show that between 50–90% of rapes go unreported. Factoring unreported rapes together with the odds of an arrest being made and the chances of getting a felony conviction, only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. In other words: 15 of 16 rapists walk free. . thing is, several of us on here have been raped. it is a violation. and yes, I know that men can be raped. as far as I know it, none of the men here have stepped forward about if they were raped.

• since when do I consider my daughter to be nothing more than property. . and you obviously havent taken a look at the site I went thru the trouble to find for you.  . the stuff you are quoting are a mixture off the Father's Manifesto site.  which is not only a racist site. but also a misogynistic site. http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/ . I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned that you tried to get your past wife to sign a copy of what is on this page:  http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/19th.htm . since it is basically a statement that the woman is not gonna vote. that she is giving up her right by law to do so. . as well as things from this site as well:   http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/ . . plus, your claim about that women only divorce for your two reason. well, mine was not in that. wonder why. maybe because you can not believe that it is possible to divorce for other reasons than you think folks do.

• I want to see the commercials for that!  lol

• Very good point, Pete.  He whines more than any minority I've ever met. 

• Usually paying attention to things that don't happen and are not there is called hallucinating.  Sorry, McPants.  I know you're being a better person than me but I can't help it!  I have urges!

• Now you are truly a brave man Roocifer.  I would not offer to pee on anyone on this site.  Some of these people might show up at your house so fast their tires would be on fire.  If you continue to offer these services, your problems may come to a head soon.  But I will leave you with holding your fate in your own hands.   They also make a special verison of Axe to cover up that dead hooker smell.  It's called Sowell Extra.

• And blind!

• lmao!

• I believe she'd have to have a damn sight more than that particular problem to lower herself to date him.  *shudders*  Gawd it is hard to believe such ridiculous men still exist.

• Hahaha.  "You're a 'strange' man."  Well, dude, you ARE a strange man.  Women may not help you because they probably smell all the dead hookers you have buried in your backyard.  Tip: If you think everyone else around you is evil, crazy, lazy, manipulative then it's not them.  It's you.    For the record, I would pee on you if you were on fire, Verve.  Hell, I'd pee on you for no reason at all. 

• If I had a nickel for every man who acts like a total douche bag and then is surprised when the wife throws him out on his ass ......  Hard for guys like you to imagine that you are not in fact the greatest gift, huh?

• Well obviously he's not getting laid in this lifetime unless he's going out with a deaf girl.

• On one hand, he's nothing but a cheap, superficial, neanderthal, who thrives on slinging a bunch of horse manure and trying to sound like a pseudo intellectual, so I'd encourage you to pay him no attention.  His mommy wouldn't breast feed him.  On the other hand, I too thought that the particular comment you referenced was below the belt, even for him.  Wouldn't it be lovely if he'd commit suicide?  It'll never happen though, he's way too self-centered.  He's much more likely to go postal and kill a bunch of others, b/c clearly he has no friends, no job, and never gets laid.

• Very good points.  Well put. 

• Verve, If men are so great, then how do you possibly justify the low life cheap shot you took at Jenn mentioning her husband's act as a reflection on her?  If someone commits suicide, that's their decision.  No one else's.  That person was going to do that anyhow, regardless of who their wife or husband was at the time.  You have no grasp on boundaries.

• Verve, that's insightful. Yes, I live on a street of about ten townhouses which all contain a wife, a husband, and some kids.  It's been the same for the ten years I've lived here.  None of my relatives have ever been divorced and I don't call the cops to solve my marital problems since they are usually 24 and armed with guns instead of psychology degrees. All the people I know and work with, show up to work everyday and we all have the same goals.   I'm not interested in "being bored" with my husband.  I mostly think about how to save money so my family and I can have nice things and go places. These are the kinds of people I attract.  If you're attracting riff raff, then maybe you need to change your attitude and expectations. But the more I read your delusional, obssessive, and paranoid posts, the more I believe you are a person who has been labeled young in life and is on many psychotropic drugs, has been taught to be a victim who feels powerless and is unable to think clearly.

• @ Sang we should start making PSA's for white guys- It Gets Better!

• How was saying Obama is not responsible for the health care system we have today not a factual statement? HE ISN'T. but go ahead and leave more long winded comments dancing around that FACT. Our fucked up health care system was in place long before he got into office. And take pot shots at a guy who actually tried to do something about it.

• Verve, You're funny.  As far as I'm concerned, you are the riff raff.  LOL.  No one with your attitude could be that bright. 

• The race problem is a lot more complex than being one or the other and has a lot of history.  (But I think you know that.)  I know my opinions are usu. not well taken, however, isn't it an actual fact that the United States govt. was responsible for institutionalized slavery and only abolished it when it created an unfair distribution of money, and then decided to just slap some civil rights laws and some welfare programs into place and call it a day?  They have a long history of not finishing the job, check out Iraq, Nam, and the war on drugs, even your own ref.'s to super sites.  No white person alive today is responsible for the fate of black people, women, etc.  unless they actively engage in discrimination. The huge problem with society today is that we are turning young people into whining pussies like Verve.  This shit attitude flows right down from crapitol hill.  They don't like the fact that they fucked up the budget so bad it rolled over and died, so they say S & P is wrong.  They will probably hire 12 new feds to make up a bullshit comittee to "investigate" what's so wrong with S & P that they would tell the truth about the govt. when they should be firing 30% of feds and getting rid off all the money - wasting bs committees. Until the govt. grows the balls to do it's job, get the asbestos out of DC schools, get the lead out of DC water, stop illegals and drugs from pouring into the US like a seive, and provide decent cities for people to live in, I hold no single citizen responsible for any societal problem. We are the richest country (or were last week) in the world with the biggest most gigantic govt. and what do we get for that?  Weiner?  That's our govt.? 

• You'll need two hairdo's if your dress is short enough.  (From King Pin)

• One word about "Obamacare"  to those who express exactly opposite factual interpretations of it, yet agree that I am wrong.  Govt. regulation of for profit health insurance will lead in only one direction.  Health insurance will become exactly like auto insurance.  High rates. Useless policies with caps which will be quickly exhausted but you will still have to keep paying your premium until you're dead from no more treatment. Double-dipping by the govt. and insurance companies in uninsured coverage (like uninsured motorist coverage) plus fines for people to pay to the government who can't afford insurance.   We can all agree auto insurance is a real bargain.

• I'm thinking more likely she fessed up b/c of guilt. 

• I agree, Pete.  I'm usually not a supporter of lawsuits in general, but this woman was apparently trying to kill herself.  It was no accident, and had those men known that she did this on purpose then they may not have tried to help her.  I feel badly for her that she's depressed, but endangering the lives of others (by driving like an idiot, not by "making" anyone rescue her) is sort of like someone injuring another person in the commission of a crime.  I say sue away.   

• my lawyer did give me the chance for it. I refused it. on the grounds I mentioned.

• not medical aid yet. but some of those I have helped, were strangers. . as in the ones with the dead cars.   . that kid in the pool(in a different part of the thread here), again, did not know him. . I tend to help out as best as I can. then leave once they are helped out and can go on. I dont do it to make friends in those case. . and I try to watch over folks to make sure they are ok.

• I can look in the mirror knowing that I can and have saved someone from death.  . and as long as I live. I will try to save someone, no matter what gender, what age, what skin colour they are.  . by the way, I learned that technique from my father. from him applying it to folks to get them to realize things. . can you look in the mirror for condemning a person to death. no matter what gender or race they are. like you did here: Verve10007 3 hours ago in reply to SangeliaI actually agree with you on this one. They should have just let the bitch burn and this whole thing could have been avoided.

• You seem to think that since the Kobe Bryant case didn't go to trial means there wasn't a rape.  All it means is that he paid her off to drop the suit.  Companies do that shit all the time.  I'm not living on Mars.  I'm not the one that's clueless.  You can type in the word "Bigfoot" and there will be millions of hits for it also.  What about "Flying Spaghetti Monster" in the case you are a nut that has proof Sasquatch lives out your back door in the middle of Redneckville?  You obviously don't understand the way Google works if you think that typing in "60% of rape claims are false" doesn't pull up hits for each individual word. I'm really through fighting ignorance.  I truly have better things to do.  I'm sorry you're jaded.  I'm sorry that you didn't learn about real life in school.  I'm also sorry that you don't understand how Google and stats work.  I truly am.  The problem with the quote "ignorance is bliss" is that your ignorance is making you bitter.  You would be much happier if you were able to come to peace with some of this.  Truly.

• troll sounds like my ex when even the slightest thing went wrong. . heck, I dont even hear a tenth of the amount of whinging that verve does, out of my own daughter, not even when she is tired and does not want to take her naps. . and she is only six years old.

• To be honest I'd like to sue anybody I see in a hummer because it's such a damn eye-sore, but this lawsuit kind of makes sense to me after hearing so many other bullshit lawsuits. If her stupid decision actually did cause the damage that these guys are claiming it did, I don't see why she shouldn't pay for what she caused

• LOL. keep hanging in there Pete.  . unfortunately things in some cases have to get worse before they can get better.

• Agreed, Fred. The white man as victim shit is problem the most pathetic thing going in America today. As a white guy, it makes me want to get traded to a different team.

• try again bubette. . try learning one thing, many who do go thru divorce for many reasons. some to get out of a abusive relationship be it caused by the other spouse, and or even the parent(s) of said spouse that force the divorce. . there are MANY factors that are involved. it is only those marriages that had a unfaithful partner that it is a 50% divorce rate..http://typicaldivorce.com/Divorce-statistics.php     Divorce Statistics based on StateStatistics show that Nevada (7.1%), Arkansas (6.2%), Alabama and Wyoming (5.4%) have the highest divorce rates. Illinois (2.9%), Massachusetts (2.5%), Georgia (2.5%) and the District of Columbia (2.4%) have the lowest.The overall national average is 4.1%. States ranging within this average include: Utah, Ohio, Montana, and Missouri..some, like me found our past partners to be monsters in human shape. I refused to stay married to him once I found out he was a pedophile. 

• Yeah, I gotta call bullshit on the Obama care reference too, since it actually expands health care.

• You can't be a productive member of society, Verve, if you're constantly squealing like a professional victim who believes everyone else in the world is smarter, tougher,and capable of kicking your ass and outsmarting you at ever turn. Which is essentially what you're saying. You're the personification of the modern, candy-assed male, a fearful, braying child who blames all his problems on others, and sees evil forces far more powerful than him around every corner. Maybe if you stopped whining like a little boy, you might actually find a woman. But real women tend not to fall for the weak and self-pitying. These alleged men are not the ones they wish to be the fathers of their children, since they will only bring their children shame.

• Oh, I never had the choice to even try for alimony.

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