Juanita Kinzie, Meth Addict, Allegedly Kills Child, Hides Body Under Trailer

• it's so sad and frustrating for a little innocent child to suffer that way. rest in peace, sweet child :( PH Writer, http://bulletproofvestsforsale.blogspot.com/

• I guess the child's father must do something wrong for the child's mother, so she choose to do this to revenge. Sorry for my bad English.

• The fact that a 3 yr old child could not be persuaded, by his own mother, to go with her voluntarily~even with the promise of toys & candy~was a huge red flag right there! He was 3, but didn't want toys or candy?!?! Even another 3 yr old could have seen the problem there!  I can't get this particular story out of my head for some reason, it's eating at me, how easily this could have been prevented. Poor, poor little guy.

• You are so right, and if more people were willing to get involved, a lot of these awful things wouldn't end so badly. I do understand the fear of reporting someone, and maybe being wrong, but when you see the alternative, f**k the fear, CALL someone. In this case, like some other posters have said, there were so many people who may have been able to prevent this, if only ONE of them had done the right thing, at the right time, this poor angel might not have his wings already.

• You are so right, and if more people were willing to get involved, a lot of these awful things wouldn't end so badly. I do understand the fear of reporting someone, and maybe being wrong, but when you see the alternative, f**k the fear, CALL someone. In this case, like some other posters have said, there were so many people who may have been able to prevent this, if only ONE of them had done the right thing, at the right time, this poor angel might not have his wings already.

• I agree, I can't even stand it when my kids have their feelings hurt, and they aren't even kids anymore. It's such a foreign concept to me, child abuse/neglect/murder. Most of us can't wrap our heads around these tragedies, because most of us(even childless people)have a built-in instinct to protect children, especially our own, but all children really.  Bad parent(s)=tragedy, waiting to happen. Bad parent(s)+drug addiction=tragedy, waiting to be discovered.

• It's not just 'telling' yourself that it was the drugs abusing you, I'm sure it was the truth. People that knew your parents before they were addicts, would tell you they were no longer the same people. I hope you understand that I am, in no way, excusing your parents behavior because they were addicts. I am glad for you, that you've learned to cope, and move forward. =)

• That poor baby! They need to take babies away from those drug addict parents so they can't kill any more of them. I'm sick and tired of this happening.

• This is that terribly sad story I was posting about the other day.....=.(. . I agree with luvthepugs

• Exactly, and I don't think that many parents get this about why a parent's love makes a difference in the way a child feels about his/herself.  If they don't efing love us, who will??  We will surely hate ourselves to death if we don't have a reason not to.  UGH. Lets talk about something more uplifting.

• I appreciate your kind comments, Sam, Thank you. I think I do have my s*it together, mostly. I definitely have baggage that rears its ugly head occasionally.  As your husband, that is exactly how I feel about my parents.  If it wasn't for her abuse and his passiveness and chicken shit attitude about it, I'd probably be a POS parent too.  I have them to thank for the wonderful relationship I have with my kids. Frankly, I am happy to have endured all their sick BS so that mine could be without the baggage. Its crazy to say that I am a better person because I had s*itty parents. 

• stupid, dumb cunt!!! Hang the bitch!!!!

• if only it were that easy

• I'm guessing that the best thing to do is go around and start turning over rocks. Then when you find scum like this, just kill it. Maybe it'll keep the nasties from crawling out from under em.

• Sorry you had to go through that. For what it's worth, you seem like a very together and level-headed person now. Strange about how the bad stuff always haunts, isn't it? I always have to remind myself that everything i've been through has made me into the person i am today, and i wouldn't change that person for the world. (well, maybe a breast lift in a few years time! :) My hubby always tells me his father taught him to be a better dad, by showing him exactly how NOT to do it.

• I guess I would have to say it depends on the type of drugs. My parents were potheads and pain pills were used by them both (although I believe my dad didn't abuse them as he had very real, serious pain.) I grew up knowing I was loved and while I wasn't spoiled, I never went without...

• RIP kid :(

• We can start a club.  I had a parent that was abusive without the excuse of drugs or alcohol.  The feelings I was left with are no different than all of yours.  I really think that having a child of my own gave me feelings of love and worth and that is how I was able to pull my head out. I wanted to give him good feelings and I couldn't do that properly without feeling good about myself. IDK why but for some reason all the bad s*it is easiest to believe and hang on to.

• So sad.  I look at my own kids and I can't even bare to think of them being hungry or hurt or neglected. 

• LMAO

• so... how bout the weather....

• .... not really ....

• .....and this is where I get off (subject change).

• Well it sure as hell isn't as damn tiring! :)

• You trying to say you like to watch. =)

• 'kay... so is that you and your 5 other personalities, or you and your 'five-fingered friend'? ;)

• Sadly people don't give a shit till it happens to them or someone close to them.

• Room for one more? 2 is company, 8 is an orgy.

• It does seem so tragic that over the years you would expect people to start paying attention around them.  I am glad you have found a way to cope. I was given up for adoption by a parent that said ok as long as you don't bring her back.... it does become hard not to see yourself in that light of, if they don't love me who will.  As Sam said earlier, it would appear that you have stayed strong and moved forward with your life and not let it keep you down.  Always be strong in yourself!!!  Good luck!

• I'm sorry you had to go through that. Every respect for being able to grow into - from what little i can see here - a sensible, educated, empathic person. *resolves to be extra vigilant to any abuse in her vicinity*

• I'm sorry you had that experience, and I'm glad to hear that it sounds like you've done some real work on overcoming that shaky beginning.  You'll be surprised, too, someday, if / when you are able to forgive your parents,  how helpful that will be to you, how liberating. 

• Sorry to hear that but I am glad you have come through it and have learnt to cope.

• I commented above regarding abuse I suffered as A child. Id like to add after seeing your post that my parents were Heroine addicts so I completely agree with you. I've never completely forgiven my parents (they're both deceased now) because they made the choice to do the drugs and abuse BUT I also feel that if they had NOT been addicts they may not have been abusive. I tell myself that it was the drugs abusing me, it's easier for me to cope that way. Before I learnt to cope that way I was very self-destructive such as, if my parents never loved me why would anyone else?, I had no self worth until I learnt a few coping skills such as blaming the drug as opposed to my "clean" parent.

• It is SO sad and discouraging. You would think that here in AMERICA that witnesses would report abuse and neglect on children. I'm 38 now but my younger brother and I were both abused as children, in many ways. Everyone knew, other residents in our apartment complex, teachers, family friends. People felt sorry for my brother and I, they would give us food (we were so skinny we were teased about being ethiopians), we even had ONE teacher that would pick us up early in the morning before school and bring us to breakfast for a brief period of time but other than that we had no intervention, we had plenty of sympathy but no real help. I only disclosed this about myself because Id like to add that you'd be surprised at how many people of ALL walks of life (Law Enforcement, Teachers, Social workers) will turn their heads and ignore abuse of children. It's absolutely unbelieveable and UNACCEPTABLE to me. Its very SAD. R.I.P Lil' Angel Caleb (I hope your egg donor burns in hell)

• Anybody who takes drugs like heroin and meth etc should be locked up if they have kids until they are completely clean, then the courts should only consider visitation.

• ok fine....move over

• Not just the US - sadly we have plenty of similar stories here. Douchebag parenting must be a global affliction... :/

• Your head? There's so much room in here i thought we were in mine this morning... :)

• She looks like she really gives a damn about her dead baby boy.  Bitch. @Sammmmmmmmmmmmmm:disqus, in the US we suck when it comes to giving a royal damn about kids.  Its very sad.  And people get pissed off because we lock up drug addicts.  These sick f*ckers need to be locked up and this is why.

• get out of my head Sam, I'm using it this morning... and you took my words

• SMDH so much right now am giving myself whiplash. Why o why did this cunt get custody back when she obviously didn't want it? Why was the child assigned to her when she was obviously in no fit state to care for even herself?? Why did social services not do ANY check ups on the little babe after putting him back into a situation with a past of domestic abuse and drugs??? Why didn't his family members push for the police to do a welfare check on the child / report the child missing when they weren't getting anywhere with social services???? Why didn't  ANYbody follow up on the reports of stench throughout summer????? Unbelievable. So many people have failed this beautiful boy. RIP little Caleb.

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